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| trulygifted Member
 
 Joined: 3 Sep 2008
 Posts: 1
 
 | # Posted: 3 Sep 2008 20:41 Reply
 
 Hello all,
 
 I recently joined this program Solar eBusiness and wondered has anyone else heard of it or had any positive/negative feedback?
 
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 Sign up your FREE account now at Solar eBusiness  and see how our eMarketing Program builds your business.
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| pcwork Member
 
 Joined: 12 Aug 2006
 Posts: 1627
 
 | # Posted: 5 Sep 2008 22:35 Reply
 
 What is the url of the website?
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 7 Sep 2008 19:47 Reply
 
 My wife joined Solar E-Business too, has 3 days to
 upgrade before the next promotional day.
 
 I have checked it out to the best of my ability
 my concern is when you join for free and you
 have thousands of people underneath you
 with so many Solar Members. Do they belong
 to you after you have upgraded?
 
 Currently my wife has over 1,100 free Enrollers
 with 13 Solar Members.
 
 I have seen these type of Builders before they
 keep e-mailing you to upgrade before you get
 leaped frog from members below you. The problem
 is that once you do upgrade you have to start from
 scratch.
 
 Trulygifted I gather you signed up for free and wondering if
 it is worth while to upgrade with in the next 3 days?
 
 PCwork as explained in the forum TOS no links can be
 placed in your posts. That being said it is very easy to
 find the Solar E-business link if you look hard enough you
 will find it
  
 I am interested in anyone that upgraded and grabbed
 all those people underneath them with the commission
 of $100.00 for at least 10 Solar Members?
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| geno Member
 
 Joined: 15 Aug 2008
 Posts: 17
 
 | # Posted: 8 Sep 2008 06:55 Reply
 
 I have been an enrolled member for a few months already and kinda forgot all about it until i logged in to my seldom used e-mail account just yesterday. I have got more than 1200 enrolled members and 13 solar members in my team for this week.
 
 Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that i doesn't matter how many solar members you have in your downline, you only get paid for 5. So i am wondering what happens to the other 8 in my team. Are they built into a second line under me or spilled over to some other solar member?
 
 I have been trying to figure out the compensation plan and i am getting more confused. If i am to be paid for 5 members in only 1 line, then what i stand to receive will not be enough to cover the monthly $50 fee.
 
 Any  members here who are in this program? Maybe you can shed some light on this issue. This is the only thing that is stopping me from upgrading to Solar cos i don't see it building up to $6000/month in 90 days. Or maybe i am reading the chart wrong...
 
 Best regards,
 Geno
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 8 Sep 2008 10:00 Reply
 
 
 geno:  I have been an enrolled member for a few months already and kinda forgot all about it until i logged in to my seldom used e-mail account just yesterday. I have got more than 1200 enrolled members and 13 solar members in my team for this week. Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that i doesn't matter how many solar members you have in your downline, you only get paid for 5. So i am wondering what happens to the other 8 in my team. Are they built into a second line under me or spilled over to some other solar member?
 Hi Geno,
 
 I just checked my wifes account and I notice something new that was not their yesterday this is the message I found. (My wife allows me to check her online business because I have had 7 years at it my wife about 1 year.)
 
 
 Effective Immediately
 Upgrade to Solar Member Now. You don't need to personally sponsor 5 Solar Members to get paid. If you have any Solar Member in your team line sponsored either by yourself or your up line members, you will get paid for up to 5 levels.
 
 If anyone here can make heads and tails out of it that would be great
  
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| westerly Member
 
 Joined: 8 Sep 2008
 Posts: 4
 
 | # Posted: 8 Sep 2008 20:25 Reply
 
 Hi all.
 
 I too am somewhat confused as to how this all works, and I am
 supposed to upgrade by wednesday this week or risk losing all
 of the 306 under me?.
 
 Not very clear in their recruitment are they, also they mention pay
 via check (cheque) to your address, so I asked if payments to me
 (if any) can be made through my Paypal accont or direct deposit.
 
 The answer I have just received simply advises me to join Paypal
 to make payment, so ether they cannot understand plain english
 or the reply was automated.
 
 westerly.
 
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| geno Member
 
 Joined: 15 Aug 2008
 Posts: 17
 
 | # Posted: 10 Sep 2008 12:02 Reply
 
 
 Grant Wilson:  If anyone here can make heads and tails out of it that would be great 
 This is a promo for Aug/Sep.
 Previously, they would not release your commision until you have PERSONALLY sponsored  5 members (Upgraded Solar members through your own effort).
 
 With this promo, you do not need to recruit any members and you will still get paid.
 
 In my earlier post, i wrote:
 
 "Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that i doesn't matter how many solar members you have in your downline, you only get paid for 5. So i am wondering what happens to the other 8 in my team. Are they built into a second line under me or spilled over to some other solar member?
 
 I have been trying to figure out the compensation plan and i am getting more confused. If i am to be paid for 5 members in only 1 line, then what i stand to receive will not be enough to cover the monthly $50 fee.
 
 Any members here who are in this program? Maybe you can shed some light on this issue. This is the only thing that is stopping me from upgrading to Solar cos i don't see it building up to $6000/month in 90 days. Or maybe i am reading the chart wrong..."
 
 
 This is still bugging me and holding me back from upgrading. Can any body  clarify?
 
 Thanks & best regards,
 Geno
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 10 Sep 2008 20:12 Reply
 
 Hi Geno,
 
 I am unable to clarify myself however my
 wife and I were talking about it and my wife is going
 to upgrade today.
 
 Once we know exactly what is going on and if it
 is worth the $50.00 per month investment I will
 post in the results to this thread.
 
 I feel someone needs to take the first step might
 as well be my wife, if anything else does not work out
 then we can save other people thinking of upgrading.
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| geno Member
 
 Joined: 15 Aug 2008
 Posts: 17
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 02:33 · Edited by: geno Reply
 
 
 Grant Wilson:  I feel someone needs to take the first step might as well be my wife, if anything else does not work out then we can save other people thinking of upgrading.
 That's what i call "taking one for the team"!
 Would appreciate it very much if you would update us on how it goes.
 Good luck & God bless!
 
 Geno
 
 P.S. I believe there are other charges(can't remember how much) involved.
 
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| westerly Member
 
 Joined: 8 Sep 2008
 Posts: 4
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 02:59 Reply
 
 
 Grant Wilson:  I feel someone needs to take the first step might as well be my wife, if anything else does not work out then we can save other people thinking of upgrading.
 I was also about to upgrade but will wait for your report, and thanks for doing so.
 The way I read it that those that have upgraded move ahead of you anyway and are therefore lost, in my case I had 320 in my
 enrolled line but only 35 as Solar upgrades.
 
 I look forward to your report and thanks again.
 
 westerly
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 03:39 Reply
 
 
 geno:  That's what i call "taking one for the team"! Would appreciate it very much if you would update us on how it goes. Good luck & God bless! Geno P.S. I believe there are other charges(can't remember how much) involved.
 
 Hi Geno,
 
 Yes indeed any news that my wife gets to know then I will
 bring it to the attention of this thread.
  
 As of 2 hours ago my wife paid the $50.00 and is now recognized
 as a Solar Member.
 
 Will not know if the 1,500 Enrollers and 42 Solar Members
 move with my wife. The commissions and bonuses are not paid
 out until the 2nd of October. Any new news that comes up
 I will bring it to everyones attention even to those who just
 read the threads
  
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 03:45 Reply
 
 
 westerly:  I was also about to upgrade but will wait for your report, and thanks for doing so. The way I read it that those that have upgraded move ahead of you anyway and are therefore lost, in my case I had 320 in my enrolled line but only 35 as Solar upgrades. I look forward to your report and thanks again. westerly
 Hi Westerly,
 
 It is my pleasure to take Solar E-Business for a test
 because in my opinion unless your an upgraded member
 you unable to give a an honest review of a program.
 
 Yes keep your money in your pocket as I am certain that
 your line will grow again. However with 320 Enrollers and 35
 Solar Members that is a very good conversion.
 
 I will be in touch soon
 
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| geno Member
 
 Joined: 15 Aug 2008
 Posts: 17
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 05:41 Reply
 
 I just read through the FAQs and it seems to me that even though the 1st line of 5 members is more or less already in place, your 2nd line will consist of members that are solely recruited by you and that will go on for the 3rd, 4th line etc etc....
 
 If you are thinking that your 2nd line and onwards is going to grow automatically, you will be sorely disappointed. And from the compensation plan, it looks like the commisions from just your 1st line will NOT cover the monthly fees. You will have to WORK at building your subsequent lines.
 
 The good thing is that this program is quite new and the potential for growth looks promising. However, you will have to convince your downline to stick with it and not give up.
 
 This is my understanding of the plan. Please feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
 
 Geno
 
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| formula Member
 Joined: 11 Sep 2008
 Posts: 1
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 10:48 Reply
 
 Hi, just joined this forum because I found your discussion on
 google!
 
 
 geno:  I just read through the FAQs and it seems to me that even though the 1st line of 5 members is more or less already in place, your 2nd line will consist of members that are solely recruited by you and that will go on for the 3rd, 4th line etc etc.... If you are thinking that your 2nd line and onwards is going to grow automatically, you will be sorely disappointed. And from the compensation plan, it looks like the commisions from just your 1st line will NOT cover the monthly fees. You will have to WORK at building your subsequent lines.
 Thats right, Line1 will be built automatically. For every 5 personally sponsored people you will start a new line.
 
 Here are my stats since I joined aug-25:
 
 TeamLine1:
 2635 Enrolling Members, 164 Solar Members (7 sponsored by myself)
 
 TeamLine2: (all sponsored by myself)
 316 Enrolling Members, 1 Solar Members so far.
 
 After sponsoring 50 solar members by yourself you are promoted to a so called "Silver Member" and you can earn Silver Member
 5% Group Bonus from all downline team members
 Excluding Silver Members and their group in your downline
 
 Juergen
 
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| Perrier Member
 
 Joined: 11 Sep 2008
 Posts: 2
 
 | # Posted: 11 Sep 2008 19:21 Reply
 
 Omg another solar member I've heard so much about it for the pass month..every forum i go there's a topic about it... is it really that good? some said it's one of the fastest growing program atm.... growth rate faster then GDI... i'm not sure about that. However it does have alot of member promoting it so i assume it must worth a try..... i enrolled as a free member yesterday and will probably upgrade by the next promotion day....
 
 
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| geno Member
 
 Joined: 15 Aug 2008
 Posts: 17
 
 | # Posted: 14 Sep 2008 08:20 Reply
 
 
 formula:  TeamLine1: 2635 Enrolling Members, 164 Solar Members (7 sponsored by myself) TeamLine2: (all sponsored by myself) 316 Enrolling Members, 1 Solar Members so far.
 Juergen,
 so.... how is it doing for you in terms of Dollars & cents?
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 14 Sep 2008 11:12 Reply
 
 
 geno:  I just read through the FAQs and it seems to me that even though the 1st line of 5 members is more or less already in place, your 2nd line will consist of members that are solely recruited by you and that will go on for the 3rd, 4th line etc etc.... If you are thinking that your 2nd line and onwards is going to grow automatically, you will be sorely disappointed. And from the compensation plan, it looks like the commisions from just your 1st line will NOT cover the monthly fees. You will have to WORK at building your subsequent lines. The good thing is that this program is quite new and the potential for growth looks promising. However, you will have to convince your downline to stick with it and not give up. This is my understanding of the plan. Please feel free to correct me if i am wrong. Geno
 
 Hi Geno,
 
 Well after going through all the FAQs and E-mailing support
 and my wifes sponsor, I have worked out how everything goes.
 But first my wifes sponsor has not got in touch with me so make sure your have a sponsor communicating with you before you upgrade.
 
 This is how I see it after a few days:
 
 1) When you join for free and become an Enroller your upline is going to bring as many free Enollers as they can to build that line.
 
 2) When you upgrade to become a Solar Member you end up having everyone that upgrades and becomes a Solar Member below you on that single line.
 
 3) When the promotion day has gone on your first line the most that you can have is 5 Solar Members.
 
 4) To really get the power of Solar E-business you need to get a domain name and their hosting $30.00 for Standard and $80.00 for the E-commerce. They are professional sites which means they are going to work getting the traffic just look at the results now hundreds a joining a day.
 
 5) You get 30 days to find five Solar Members to get that $100.00 bonus cheque. The problem is if you upgrade say in the second or 3 week promotion you only have that amount of time before the 30 days is up which could mean anything from 7-14 days.
 
 Here is the best way to join and upgrade wait until the 1st week of the promotion in the month that way you have 3 weeks to find 5 Solar Members to get your bonus cheque. See does not matter if you have hundred Solar members you can only get 5 in the line the only way it goes beyond 5 if you find them yourself. There will be your upline bringing them in for you but your not entitled to anything only from the first 5 Solar Members which is a commission of $22.50 it grows when you bring your 5 Solar Members in yourself
 
 However that being said this is how the real cream of the crop works with Solar E-Business is that in your 1st line there is 5 of you work as a team help each other out, because if the 5 below you find 5 Solar Members they start your second line. But if you are up top before that can happen I think you need to find 5 Solar Members to even get to have your second line where this time everyone that joins that line they have to bring in 5 Solar Members as well before they can start there second line. This is very powerful if done correctly.
 
 There you go Geno or anyone else that is thinking about upgrading to be a solar Member the earlier you do that in the month the longer time you have to get the bonus Cheque.
  
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 14 Sep 2008 11:16 Reply
 
 
 Perrier:  Omg another solar member I've heard so much about it for the pass month..every forum i go there's a topic about it... is it really that good? some said it's one of the fastest growing program atm.... growth rate faster then GDI... i'm not sure about that. However it does have alot of member promoting it so i assume it must worth a try..... i enrolled as a free member yesterday and will probably upgrade by the next promotion day.... 
 
 Hi Perrier,
 
 Yes I agree Solar E-Business is growing really fast which means they are getting the traffic and turning free Enrollers to become a Solar Member it worked for my wife and it will work for you as you have just stated.
 
 Just read my post above and go through my guidelines and you will do really well if you are active and persistent
  
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 14 Sep 2008 11:24 Reply
 
 
 formula:  Thats right, Line1 will be built automatically. For every 5 personally sponsored people you will start a new line. Here are my stats since I joined aug-25: TeamLine1: 2635 Enrolling Members, 164 Solar Members (7 sponsored by myself) TeamLine2: (all sponsored by myself) 316 Enrolling Members, 1 Solar Members so far. After sponsoring 50 solar members by yourself you are promoted to a so called "Silver Member" and you can earn Silver Member 5% Group Bonus from all downline team members Excluding Silver Members and their group in your downline Juergen 
 
 
 Hi Juergen,
 
 WOW you are doing really well with your two lines and considering brought in 7 Enrollers that upgraded to become Solar Members that is how you started your second line.
 
 316 Enrollers for your second line that is a great result all from your efforts. With only 1 solar Member in your second line do you expect more to become Solar Members?
 
 Keep up the good work
 
 Which hosting did you get with their websites the standard or ECommerse?
 
 What resources are you using to get the free Enrollers?
 
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| Perrier Member
 
 Joined: 11 Sep 2008
 Posts: 2
 
 | # Posted: 17 Sep 2008 17:52 Reply
 
 Just upgraded as a SolarMember
 
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 17 Sep 2008 21:50 Reply
 
 
 Perrier:  Just upgraded as a SolarMember 
 
 Hi Perrier,
 
 That is wonderful news the best of luck in finding 5
 Solar Members to get your $100.00 bonus. How long have you
 got until the time is up for the bonus?
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| profitgenie Member
 
 Joined: 2 Oct 2008
 Posts: 10
 
 | # Posted: 2 Oct 2008 07:22 Reply
 
 Hi Grant
 
 I joined Solar E business with all the hype telling me everyday that I have hundreds of enrolling members and several solar members.  After joining for the $50.00 I now have one solar member in each of my five lines and the other 62 they kept telling me about are below my paylines.
 
 I have not recieved any payment yet as they say you dont need to personally sponsor any members to recieve payment.
 
 Looks like an alright system but I will wait this month out to see if any minimal payments come my way for those 5 solar members before I actively start building this business.
 
 If anyone has any updates or success with this company I would love to hear from you.
 
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| amranafy2005 Member
 
 Joined: 7 Oct 2008
 Posts: 2
 
 | # Posted: 7 Oct 2008 16:51 Reply
 
 Hi
 I have been a free  enroller of solar ebusiness for about 3 weeks. Just observing and studying. Since it is relatively new it is hard to tell if it will be OK or not. But at the same time, those who can afford the risk will be the leaders if the program is going to succeed. They have changed their commission plan few days ago. I dont know is it expected for a few -month age company to change its plan so quickly? I was going to become a solar member today, but I think I will watch for few more weeks and follow this valuable thread to see the comments of other solar members.
 
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| amranafy2005 Member
 
 Joined: 7 Oct 2008
 Posts: 2
 
 | # Posted: 13 Oct 2008 00:53 Reply
 
 Hi Grant
 I have just upgraded to solar member. I think I am now the second "volunteer" . Do you have any new ideas about promotion or any new thoughts. I need encouragement.
  
 Thanks
 Amr
 
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| profitgenie Member
 
 Joined: 2 Oct 2008
 Posts: 10
 
 | # Posted: 13 Oct 2008 05:01 Reply
 
 Hi Amr
 
 I have been in solar a few weeks and also upgraded to solar member, the good news is they have paid me my first commission on my 5 downline members that they acquired for me which i think is a good start.
 As such I have just started promoting Solar and seem to be having some luck with my sponsors system Paul and Tina warren.  Not sure if you are in his team but his system if you put solar in as your primary business he will promote for you.  He owns 4 traffic exchanges and it seems to be going well with his splash pages/ marketing material he provides.
 
 Using custom splash pages in traffic exchanges are working well, also seem to be having a little success with safelists but will monitor this and let you know whether it is worth the effort.
 
 That is the only person I know actively promoting solar outside of the solar official website.
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 13 Oct 2008 08:05 Reply
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 My Official testing results after my wife being in Solar
 E-Business for a month have noticed a few flaws which
 I did not notice until after my wife upgraded.
 
 The good news that indeed got payment which was
 close to the mark of $22.50 in fact was $17.50 some how
 only got paid for 4 Solar Members which was rather strange
 but at least you do get paid.
  
 I feel that my wife was very lucky to get with a sponsor
 that already had a big line. The interesting thing was with 2,500
 Pre-Enrollers only 95 became Solar Members.
 
 I contacted the first 5 from the Paid Solar Members and not
 one communicated back, I expect they will pull out for a $50.00
 per month Membership if they do not cover the membership
 fee.
 
 Missed out getting the $100 bonus if you can get 5 Solar Members
 the most that my wife got was 3 and 2 pulled out and these were
 Solar Enrollers.
 
 After serious consideration and weighing up in what Solar E-business offers and having to get 8 Solar Members for Bronze Status personally decided that the investment was not worth it.
 
 What I have read online takes an average of sponsoring 3 people with in a year. Can get a lot more if you have a good size list that you have built up or very good at Relationship Marketing.
 
 I wish all those who are currently Solar Members great Success
  
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 13 Oct 2008 08:10 Reply
 
 
 amranafy2005:  Hi Grant I have just upgraded to solar member. I think I am now the second "volunteer" . Do you have any new ideas about promotion or any new thoughts. I need encouragement. Thanks Amr
 Hi Amr,
 
 I am sorry do not have any new ideas what I can suggest and this
 goes for everyone really, is that spend 90% of your time Advertising the rest is for looking through e-mails.
 
 keep in touch of your progress
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| Grant Wilson Member
 Joined: 21 Aug 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 13 Oct 2008 08:18 Reply
 
 
 profitgenie:  I have been in solar a few weeks and also upgraded to solar member, the good news is they have paid me my first commission on my 5 downline members that they acquired for me which i think is a good start. As such I have just started promoting Solar and seem to be having some luck with my sponsors system Paul and Tina warren. Not sure if you are in his team but his system if you put solar in as your primary business he will promote for you. He owns 4 traffic exchanges and it seems to be going well with his splash pages/ marketing material he provides. Using custom splash pages in traffic exchanges are working well, also seem to be having a little success with safelists but will monitor this and let you know whether it is worth the effort. That is the only person I know actively promoting solar outside of the solar official website.
 
 Hi Profitgenie,
 
 Cool id you have used in this forum
 
 I am happy that you ended up being paid for your 5 solar Members in your first PayLine. Did you end up getting the $100.00 Bonus cheque?
 
 Looks like you really have some great Sponsor there who is willing to help you with getting your 5 Solar Members if still in your bonus cheque trial or 8 Solar Members. How many have you gotten to date personally with Enrollers and Solar Members?
 
 Have an Inspiring Day
 
 
 Grant Wilson
 
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| kevink88 Member
 
 Joined: 13 Sep 2008
 Posts: 32
 
 | # Posted: 13 Oct 2008 20:46 Reply
 
 It' s sad to read these posts. Do you really think you can make money out of this? Whoever started this program make money by convince you and receive the $50 fee out of your believing. Then the 5% is all you can make out of those fees. If you really can sell, then sell any other products and you can make more than that.
 
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| BHp Member
 
 Joined: 10 Oct 2008
 Posts: 22
 
 | # Posted: 14 Oct 2008 14:10 Reply
 
 I agree with kevink88 - doesn't shelling out $50 a month for a membership scream 'scam' to anyone?  How about a system that focuses on recruitment of other people?  Does anyone know if the product is quality?  Does anone care?  I'm not saying you can't make money, but this sounds like classic mlm - with that 97% fail rate
 
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