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a_i
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2009 23:25
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No I haven't could you give me details of your success and how much of an investment... or are you consently making investments?
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Legitimate work from home information log on it could very well work for you. I'm hoping to make it work for me.
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Elysium
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 00:15
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Wow, it's really cool how you can all of a sudden get "growth spurts" in this program.
My son has an account with RevMatrix also (I advertise for both of us). He only had a couple people during his first week, and suddenly today he has 14! The combination of people working together along with the spillover is working quite nicely!
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TheExecutive
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 01:13
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I don't have any affiliates or spillover yet, but it's only been a couple of days.  I decided that I'm going to promote ShopWurld.com instead. I already have 5 people in that downline, and I joined both in the same day. There is much greater moneymaking potential there than with this.
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Elysium
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 03:01
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My, you are quite the bouncer indeed. Two days isn't much time at all. Waiting on only spillover can mean slow downline growth, but you never know.
I hope you are able to find 'something' that you can enjoy staying with... maybe ShopWurld will be it. Best of luck to you Jeff!
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TheExecutive
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 03:53
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Elysium: My, you are quite the bouncer indeed. Two days isn't much time at all. Waiting on only spillover can mean slow downline growth, but you never know.
No bouncing around here, Elysie. The word is diversification.
I joined both MLMs on the same day. It's just that with the spillover that Terrell (my sponsor's sponsor) was producing in amazingly short periods of time -- as displayed in his YouTube video, was enough hype to convince me to join. Obviously positions are not really locked in before we upgrade. I'm putting him to the test and not just for a month. I don't give up that easily and since Terrell is a college kid he doesn't either. 
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 07:36 · Edited by: WARRANTIES4LESS
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Interesting,
Yes, I agree, diversifying is essential when playing in this market. lol I like to gamble, so I will also look to evaluate a program by testing the response rate doing exactly the same thing for all of them to properly judge which has legs and which doesn't. I give every program six months to perform, some will, most won't, and if anyone doesn't know it yet, the spillover fairy only visits a few people every year. lol
The hype we all hear is just that, hype and BS, especially when you see promotion promising spillover. How many people ever see enough spillover to make any real money? I've worked some hard over the years, only to see attrition kill off any hopes of ever seeing completed matrix.
If you get in early enough, you may see a few spillover if you have a powerful sponsor, so before you consider any program which promotes spillover, you have to research who is most powerful promoter. We all know the names of the so called heavy hitters and Guru's, so unless you align under them, the spillover fairy will not be visiting you anytime soon. lol
Reality is, if you don't work at a program, it won't work for you. As to RM deal, time will tell, but static matrix positions rarely ever pay off in the long term. The secret to success in any matrix is look for 2X? and get in early. Most people rarely recruit or sell more than 1.2 personally, and this is the problem with almost all programs, MLM or otherwise, and why 97% fail to earn more than they burn trying. There are just too many do nothing poeple who jump in and wait for the spillover fairy. Sorry, the spillover fairy only waves her magic wand over those who work a program hard.
Success to all, Mike
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mirab
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 09:13
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shopwurld seems like the same concept of amway. You buy from your self and get commissions from other people buying from themselves. Right?
I liked amway concept back in the 90's but couldn't get anyone to join. Course the internet wasn't around yet.
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Elysium
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 15:08
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A few hours later and we're at 22 people and growing.
I've always agreed that just waiting on spillover can really make for a slow growth experience. If someone joins just to test it out and not participate, they are not only slowing down the experience for themselves, but their team as well.
I guess I'm fortunate enough to be part of a team that keeps in touch and participates... some a little, some a lot. We all keep up with the latest news in the program and help each other out by staying active. With everyone putting even a little effort out, we create the continued growth and the spillover for each other.
Many people at the top are getting another spot further down the matrix, adding to the momentum of growth. It benefits them as well as the people further down.
Keeping informed of other opportunities is a great way to see what all is out there and how they are doing. There are so many programs out there to consider. But I will admit, this one impresses me most, and has now enticed me to go market for my team even more.
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mirab
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 17:22
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Are you having any trouble with new signups having problems with the system?
For example, alert pay problem, website builder is a little confusing??
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Elysium
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2009 21:59
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mirab,
Sorry I didn't see your question sooner, I'm spending more time away now putting out advertisements and answering emails.
It looks like some people may be having problems transferring money from a bank account into AP, but attaching a credit/debit card to the AP account seems to work fine... and a lot faster. Hopefully they will have the other payment processor options soon.
There is a lot of info about the web features in the forum under "Web Design." Anyone is welcome to post a question if they don't understand something. Between admin and the moderators, there's a lot of help available.
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TheExecutive
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2009 00:22
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The problem in this case had nothing to do with people having trouble transferring from their bank accounts to AlertPay. That's an ordinary issue.
The issue here was that the software interface between AlertPay and every merchant site wasn't working properly. That was fixed the other day, and I managed to upgrade with AP two nights ago.
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Elysium
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2009 01:48
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I now realize how something like this can become an addiction.
One of the people we got in my son's downline is a heavy marketer. Within the last 24 hours this person has already brought in close to 50 people... and is still going strong! Gotta love it when that happens!
Problem is, it makes you want even more. So off I go into the advertising abyss to get my 'fix'...
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treyj14
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2009 19:13
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Hey everyone. Glad to see this thread is still going strong. It is pretty crazy how fast things are growing. I technically have 60 people under me now between my 2 downlines in the program. Too bad I can't combine them!!!
To The Executive... I can't lie, it's kind of irritating to me that you'd stop promoting your link after 2 days... I mean it's 2 days. You are in the 8th spot in my second row, which I actually just finished filling. That means that with no effort from you, you are going to have to wait for me and Terell to get 35 people before you get any spillover at all. I just don't understand why you'd stop??? You're slowing my progress, as well as your own. This is about a team and working together to build that team. Not me working for you. I don't mind helping people at all, but when you blatently tell me you're doing nothing it's pretty upsetting.
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Julsy
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2009 21:49
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Hey treyj14, I joined the 10K Matrix under you and I need some spillover, LOL!!! Get busy on that one for a while, HEHEHE!!!
No really, the 10K Matrix just sent out an e-mail asking all leaders that have more than 3 people to stop promoting for themselves and instead to please promo for everyone individually in their downline, till EVERYONE in the program has at least their 3 people. By doing this, they make money as well, so it makes it a win/win so that nobody will have any reason to drop out. Now that's what I call TEAMWORK!
The Revolutionary Matrix sounds really good though and when I start doing well with the 10K Matrix, I may want to start on this one also! But I must admitt that I have NEVER seen any opportunity that truly helped their downline the way 10K is.
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TheExecutive
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2009 21:59
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treyj14: To The Executive... I can't lie, it's kind of irritating to me that you'd stop promoting your link after 2 days... I mean it's 2 days. You are in the 8th spot in my second row, which I actually just finished filling. That means that with no effort from you, you are going to have to wait for me and Terell to get 35 people before you get any spillover at all. I just don't understand why you'd stop??? You're slowing my progress, as well as your own. This is about a team and working together to build that team. Not me working for you. I don't mind helping people at all, but when you blatently tell me you're doing nothing it's pretty upsetting.
Hey, not so rough, Trev! I told a few personal friends about Revolutionary Matrix in detail, but they just aren't interested. They took one look at that website and had the same reaction as I did.
But they all joined me in ShopWurld, and that's why I have 7 in my downline so far (two of whom I don't even know).
Don't worry about RM. I wouldn't spend $10 for nothing. I'll get some ads out, but since I don't have a webcam or microphone I can't make YouTube videos. So for me and with that website doing almost a carbon-copy of GDI, it's going to be a tough sale for me. Does that mean you're going to skip me in the building process?
The way I figure it, if you and Terrell can get some spillover under me, I'll then be in a position where I can convince people more easily.
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gowriter
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2009 01:10
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One of the other things that makes Revolutionary Matrix appealing is its ability to sign up for another account. With GDI, if you were unfortunate enough to have a bad sponsor, you could not switch to a new sponsor without canceling your account and losing your entire downline.
This would upset you and the people in your upline. I've heard that some sponsors realized they'd lost their downline to another sponsor, they'd end up fighting one another.
GDI has made many people extremely successful so there's no doubt it's a reputable program. However, it's traditional MLM structure allows the top of the chain to benefit while the bottom of the chain has to squander for referrals. This can create a very competitive environment and sometimes cause conflict.
I don't think James Al-Ouboudi was trying to trash GDI. He was simply pointing out this flaw in the traditional MLM system. Therefore, he set up his system under a forced matrix. 5 x 6. This means you can only have 5 people on your first level, and you can only go 6 levels deep.
So after 5 people sign up in the first level, the sixth one will spill over randomly somewhere in the second level. So some lucky Joe in the first level gets a freebie in his downline. Technically, this means you have three ways of increasing your downline: spillovers from your upline, increases in your downline and your own marketing efforts.
This is a brilliant MLM marketing plan. Everyone benefits from everyone's efforts. You work as a team.
Once you've filled up your matrix, you're set at making $35,000 per month for as long as you and your downline are paying customers with the program.
Because the payments are through Alert Pay, anyone in the world can join this program, especially if you're worried that your country doesn't accept PayPal. So you will need to open an Alert Pay account. I've seen countries on there such as Motte, Mauritius, Bangladesh, India, Thailand, etc. Very small countries can be paid through Alert Pay.
The fee, of course, like GDI, $10USD per month.
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gowriter
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2009 01:20
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By the way, as far as Alert Pay is concerned. If you're having trouble reactivating your account with Revolutionary Matrix, do this instead:
Go to Alert pay and Log in.
Click SEND MONEY
Send email To: rockycoon@gmail.com. Amount: 10.00. Purchase Type: Other.
Click NEXT
Click on the credit cart you added. If you don't see it, you can add it by clicking PROFILE, FINANCIAL and CREDIT CARDS. For whatever reason, Alert Pay seems to respond better to VISA than Mastercard.
Continue your purchase.
You should get a yellow box with your Alert Pay confirmation number. A receipt will be sent to your email.
Send that email to admin@revolutionarymatrix.com to add you manually. It took a day. Worked just fine.
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mirab
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2009 09:17
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I like the whole concept of rev matrix, just hope they make the site more professional and user friendly. I think it will scare people away that are very new. I had to figure out how to sign up. It shouldn't be that hard. There should be a big button that says. Sign up!
Think they're working on that though. And the white letters on black background make it real tough on the eyes.
That being said, I think it shows a couple of real humans are running the biz and not some greedy guy who paid a fortune for a website just to rip people off.
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treyj14
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2009 23:46
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TheExecutive: Hey, not so rough, Trev! I told a few personal friends about Revolutionary Matrix in detail, but they just aren't interested. They took one look at that website and had the same reaction as I did. But they all joined me in ShopWurld, and that's why I have 7 in my downline so far (two of whom I don't even know). Don't worry about RM. I wouldn't spend $10 for nothing. I'll get some ads out, but since I don't have a webcam or microphone I can't make YouTube videos. So for me and with that website doing almost a carbon-copy of GDI, it's going to be a tough sale for me. Does that mean you're going to skip me in the building process? The way I figure it, if you and Terrell can get some spillover under me, I'll then be in a position where I can convince people more easily.
Sorry about that. As you can tell I'm just a little bit passionate about Rev Matrix. Don't worry there will be no skipping over of you. I don't even have a team build going for the link you signed up under so it's just straight spillover in order of signup. It'll happen soon enough.
The inactive member purge they did the other day kind of cleaned us out, but we're building it back very quickly. It actually improved some people's places within the matrix, including yours actually, so it's kind of a blessing in disguise.
I would highly recommend people get in now. You have a way better chance to get in a way better position since the purge. Please PM me with any questions you might have.
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Julsy
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2009 18:00
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All I can say is that treyj14 just proved to me that he is willing to bend over backward to do whatever is necessary to get people a GREAT position into the Revolutionary Matrix! I'm in!
If anyone is considering this opportunity, treyj14 is THE MAN!!!
Thanks Trevor!
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treyj14
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2009 03:07
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Julsy: All I can say is that treyj14 just proved to me that he is willing to bend over backward to do whatever is necessary to get people a GREAT position into the Revolutionary Matrix! I'm in! If anyone is considering this opportunity, treyj14 is THE MAN!!! Thanks Trevor!
Haha thanks for the ego boost there Julsy. I appreciate it. Now if people would just listen to you...
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greatidea
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2009 23:46
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There is a book Called Success In Ten Steps which points out what to look for in a good online opportunity and what to watch for in the scammers or poorly organized business plans that won't be around long enough to benefit from.
If you shoot me an email I will send it to you. It's not a sales pitch for any business just MLM Facts and Figures.
Lou
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sanmor
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2009 17:56
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This is an interesting thread, but I was surprised to see Treyj14 say that the purge of inactive members improved the positions of the people still left in his matrix.
From what I understand and have read in the RM forum, the matrix does not compress. When people leave or are purged, their space remains empty until filled again by a new member. This does mean that people joining now could grab a good empty position, but existing members can't move up.
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treyj14
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2009 00:46
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sanmor: This is an interesting thread, but I was surprised to see Treyj14 say that the purge of inactive members improved the positions of the people still left in his matrix.
I suppose I should clarify. What I meant by improving their positions was the fact that they will receive spillover faster due to the purge, since spillover happens in order of the actual time of signup. Yes, the spots that opened up will be will be refilled, but those that were there first should benefit first before any new signups.
Please, by all means correct me if I am wrong. Keep up the good work everyone.
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treyj14
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2009 12:48
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Hey everyone!!!
I have HUGE news!!! Rev Matrix just started accepting PAYPAL to pay your monthly fees!!! They will still however, pay you your residuals through AlertPay, so you must have both accounts. That should smooth out the process quite a bit!!!
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TheExecutive
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2009 00:57
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treyj14: Rev Matrix just started accepting PAYPAL to pay your monthly fees!!! They will still however, pay you your residuals through AlertPay, so you must have both accounts. That should smooth out the process quite a bit!!!
Uh, no it won't, Trev.... PayPal is 100% anti-matrix.  As was the case recently with Fast Builders Matrix (a topic thread here that I now should delete), these guys are going to have their funds put on HOLD by PayPal, as soon as a few members file a complaint with Revolutionary Matrix. A clear warning sign about unprofessional MLMs is that if they choose to use PayPal, they are digging their own graves.
Now you gave me a reason (in addition to have 0 people in my downline) to not renew for my second month. Thanks for the heads up! 
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treyj14
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2009 01:41
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TheExecutive: Now you gave me a reason (in addition to have 0 people in my downline) to not renew for my second month. Thanks for the heads up!
That's cool. I'm sure you tried really hard to get referrals anyways. I'd rather have someone who is actually going to put in work anyways instead of just waiting for a hand out. What do you do to market anyways??? All the posting I read in forums by you are consistently negative.
It's too bad too cuz I'm only 4 people away from spilling over to you. Oh well..
I'm just letting people in on what I've heard. I know they are also trying to add Google Checkout and a few other payment processors as well. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2009 10:24
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treyj14: That's cool. I'm sure you tried really hard to get referrals anyways. I'd rather have someone who is actually going to put in work anyways instead of just waiting for a hand out. What do you do to market anyways??? All the posting I read in forums by you are consistently negative.
I've been working hard on a proven success (Endless Customer Supply group that builds in the 14 year-old GCG opportunity) but not Revolutionary Matrix. I was going to promote this more, Trev, but I just don't like that they've added PayPal.
It's too bad too cuz I'm only 4 people away from spilling over to you. Oh well..
Would it be enough to get into profit to cover the second month? Probably not. I know you're working this, and I'm sure you're doing a great job but other than their PayPal mistake I think a lot of people are turned off by the fact that this is a low-budget GDI clone in some ways.
I still have 2 weeks to go on my first month, so at least I can see what happens but I don't except much that would change the way I feel about this.
I'm just letting people in on what I've heard. I know they are also trying to add Google Checkout and a few other payment processors as well. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Google Checkout I've never used, but I'm sure it's very reliable as long as they aren't against MLMs as PayPal is.
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Julsy
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2009 13:01
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TheExecutive... I am sitting here trying to figure out why you joined the RevMatrix in the first place? I agree with Trev, I have read several of your comments on this forum and it seem to me that all you spew is negative. Now I can totally understand negative when you have experience with something or have been burned, but this just isn't the case with you. You are only spewing your negative opinions that aren't based in experience.
I cannot begin to tell you how many great relationships I have made from this forum alone and the people that have jumped on board with me because I try to be positive and motivate people. In this regard, I assure you that you are hurting yourself and whatever business you work with if it is an MLM, because with your attitude on this forum, nobody is going to want to join with you in anything you do because you are so pessimistic and like I say, I have noticed it on other threads in here as well, not just the RevMatrix.
I am in no way trying to personally condemn you, I just hope that you can see how you are coming across to others, in most of our business ventures, it is very important to draw people to you, not away.
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2009 13:13
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I know you think you mean well, Julsy, but this isn't supposed to be a personal thing. Attitude or no attitude isn't the issue.
If I have something positive to say about a program I will (and have). But the "yin and yang" of life is that we have to learn to take the bad with the good.
So along with the positive must sometimes come negative. That is REALITY and it is the purpose of this type of forum. We aren't supposed to promote, but discuss.
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