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mapiklfish
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2009 15:16
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Anyone signed up for Maverick Money Makers and is it legit?
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innerpeace
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2009 15:30
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Hey mapiklfish
I've not purchased MMM personally - I consider it a package that I'll move on to once I get some good solid income from my initial investment in My Online Income System.
I have heard that there is a lot of valuable content - and the videos by Mack Michaels are supposed to be very useful indeed and really worth the investment.
On the other hand, there is a flood of information that has a tendency to overwhelm some people. And apparently Mack isn't always directly available if you ring up for support.
I think it was with MMM that I heard you pay a monthly subscription... so I'd be a little wary of that too.
If you're an advanced beginner / early intermediate who's already making a bit of money online then it could be suitable... but I'd do a little more research yourself - and be wary of guys who may only be making it look good because they'll make money out of it.
There'll be plenty more good advice from the guys at this forum too.
Good luck mate.
IP
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2009 17:28
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I have heard some good things about it as well, but $97 a month is a LOT of money to invest. If I were you, I would only purchase it if you have the money readily available, and you have a lot of time in the next month to watch the videos and implement what he teaches you - that way you can cancel the following month so you don't have to shell out another $97.
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thebart
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2009 00:49
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I have done a lot of reseach on MMM, and it does look like a legitimate program. I would stress however that it does not look like a program for beginners. That is a lot of money to be laying out on the table if you are not confident that you are going to be able to commit the time to recoup the cost and generate profit on top of that overhead cost. Bottem line is that I think the program is valid, you need to make the final call as to whether or not you are ready to make the commitment to the program.
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CopynProfit
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# Posted: 15 Mar 2009 17:39
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Hey guys I can tell you for a fact MMM is legit! they have been #1 in clickbank for quite a wile now.
Sold about 100 copys to my lists and had no complaints.
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newbiz02
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# Posted: 15 Mar 2009 18:27
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thebart: I would stress however that it does not look like a program for beginners. That is a lot of money to be laying out on the table if you are not confident that you are going to be able to commit the time to recoup the cost and generate profit on top of that overhead cost.
This is so true. newbies just have to resist the hype.
Some programs are really not for IM beginners,
especially if it was a monthly subscription. You would spend time trying to figure out what they are talking about, instead of immediately implementing what they are teaching.
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Maverique
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# Posted: 16 Mar 2009 00:42
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Hello!
I signed up in January. What attracted me is that Mack Michaels offers 7 videos that will walk you through making money online with conventional marketing tools that work - as an affiliate. Those videos cover each of these methods and they are very clear and detailed.
It is true that you need to pay an amount to get these. But, if you want to take the time and put the effort to learn the ropes of these 7 techniques and push through, it does work. In this case, you don't have to pay monthly so to get more advanced tutorials. Just stick to make those 7 marketing methods work for you.
I personally finally learned what I couldn't priorly with other mentors.
There are places on the web where you can look for businesses and have their profiles and stats.
Good luck.
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sjames23
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2009 11:53
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works and it's legit. they people calling it a scam or whatever don't put the time into working the system.
YES I said work. you WILL have to do some work in creating your income but the videos are VERY EASY to follow and the techniques work.
I have no complaints.
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mapiklfish
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2009 12:32
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Thanks, sjames23. I have nothing against working for the income. Do you need to have a budget for Adwords to start up or can you start for only your $97 original investment (I realize it's an ongoing subscription).
Linda
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2009 12:32
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Maverique: Hello! I signed up in January. What attracted me is that Mack Michaels offers 7 videos that will walk you through making money online with conventional marketing tools that work - as an affiliate. Those videos cover each of these methods and they are very clear and detailed. It is true that you need to pay an amount to get these. But, if you want to take the time and put the effort to learn the ropes of these 7 techniques and push through, it does work. In this case, you don't have to pay monthly so to get more advanced tutorials. Just stick to make those 7 marketing methods work for you. I personally finally learned what I couldn't priorly with other mentors. There are places on the web where you can look for businesses and have their profiles and stats. Good luck.
sjames23: works and it's legit. they people calling it a scam or whatever don't put the time into working the system.YES I said work. you WILL have to do some work in creating your income but the videos are VERY EASY to follow and the techniques work. I have no complaints.
Is there a system or just a bunch of videos?
Exactly how many videos are there? Not just 7 I hope!
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innerpeace
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2009 14:43
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Guys,
I just started hearing some not so good things about Maverick Money Makers - for instance that Mack Michaels is the same guy as Chris Luck - a guy that ran IncomeGreed.com and took a lot of people for a ride (just google 'incomegreed').
Now I don't know Mack=Chris for a fact, but there's an audio of 'Chris' which people say sounds exactly like 'Mack Michaels'. I wouldn't disagree.
There are some people who claim to be happy with Maverick Money Makers and say they're making a bit of money online.
However, I know I will be updating my site to remove my affiliation with Maverick Money Makers.
MMM may have some good content, and it may not be a scam as such, but if I can't be 100% certain, I won't recommend it.
Hope this info is of use. And if you wish to counteract this post, I won't take you seriously if you have an MMM affiliate link in your signature!
Good luck to all,
IP
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Ifindthebest
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2009 07:03
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Hi guys. I've just stumbled on this site and can see it's an excellent source of info from people actually buying, using and evaluating products. I've stumbled over some real disasters and total scams.
As far as Maverick Money goes, I can say from personal experience that it's one of the few "real deals" out there. The content is huge and it works you thoroughly through the entire setup and automating process. In 5 months of following the program, I have absolutely no regrets.
Mack Michaels is referred to as a "real person" by such trusted sources as as Mike Filsaime. The other thing I liked is his no BS approach. He comes across as a sincere, decent person.
Yes it's very hard to know who is reputable and delivers what he promises. I can recommend MMM as one of them. Put in the work and you won't be disappointed.
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sjames23
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2009 09:16
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You don't even need to use Adwords if you don't want to. Adwords is the only way you can lose money. There are over 40 videos with ways to drive traffic for free or very very lost cost.
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VictoriaNTC
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2009 10:13
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Does anyone else have a comment?
How are you doing with this program?
I am just curious... I feel $97 a month is a little high...
Have a great day,
Victoria
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innerpeace
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2009 20:53
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Hey Victoria,
I came across this forum discussion in relation to MMM.
(Hope I'm allowed to post a rival forum's thread. Apologies if not, Vishal... obviously your work-at-home-forum is the best!)
Click here (don't worry - no affiliate shenanigans)
Obviously these are just people's views so make up your own minds.
Would be interested to hear what other people make of this - especially if you can truthfully say that you are using MMM and applying its methods successfully i.e. actually making the money it promises you can make.
Best,
IP
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innerpeace
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2009 22:23
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Please excuse me for replying to my own post - just found some more info... funnily enough because Ifindthebest mentioned Mike Filsaime.
Anyway, hopefully this summary of information will provide further insight into Maverick Money Makers for those of you who are contemplating purchase. Bear in mind this comes from a person who actually paid to be a member of MMM.
Video Source --> youtube MMM review
1. There are so many 'organic results' from people who are trying to get you to join through their link (I notice Ifindthebest has such a link on his site... though I admit I used to have one until I found this stuff out!). These people are trying to sell it to you.
2. Most people promoting it are NOT members and have never used the program (lots of affiliates through Clickbank). They just want your cash.
3. There are plenty of indications that the guy could be a liar - he claims that MMM is the original moneymaking club since 1997... but MMM was registered on September 3rd 2008.
4. There's a whole banner of high-profile media names 'As seen on CNN, Fox News etc...' Research has been done into the truth behind this... and there was no evidence that MMM or Mack Michaels ever had any affiliation with these networks.
5. Picture on site is not Mack Michaels (don't know what was behind this conclusion...)
6. June 2008 - 'Mack Michaels' was 'Chris Clayton' (and at least two other names before that!)
7. Chris Clayton's Incomegreed.com was very similar to MMM. Lots of unhappy customers who paid a fortune for strategies that weren't working for them, and 'Chris' couldn't help them and then disappeared...
8. CPA offers / MillNic video that are advertise on the sales page are apparently not detailed on the inside.
9. There used to be a fake urgency statement of '17' places left. When people cottoned on to this it was changed to claim you can join 'over 2,437' people who are already making thousands online...
10. Some strategies don't work - for being such an expert (you would think a millionaire from online marketing would be an expert), why does Mack advocate methods that get you into trouble with Google Adwords and have your accounts suspended from forums for violating the rules?
Again, I would be very interested in hearing any more thoughts and comments on Maverick Money Makers.
Especially fact-based ones from real members.
Watch out for the sharks,
IP
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Vishal P. Rao
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2009 01:53
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innerpeace: (Hope I'm allowed to post a rival forum's thread. Apologies if not, Vishal... obviously your work-at-home-forum is the best!)
Links to good resources are always appreciated  Only thing is that they should not be self-serving.
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redsadie
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2009 08:16
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Hiya
I did join MMM about 4 days ago because of the great sales page and video I watched, thought, "I can do that!" (it's nowhere I can find on the membership site). I have tried one of his quick money blueprints to teat the water, so to speak. The videos are great sources of information and easy to follow, the only thing I have found so far is that there are many videos you need to watch BEFORE you implement anything so you don't spend advertising money unnecessarily.
I blundered on in, thinking I knew what I was doing, only to find that I needed a few other things (that cost money - not much, but more than I anticipated) to actually implement the campaign I am doing. I was getting pretty frustrated with myself, [u]but[/u] had I taken the time to look through the content thoroughly, I wouldn't've saved myself money but I would've known what I was in for and saved a lot of frustration!
I have learned an awful lot in these past few days about HTML and how to get ads online easily and legally but I do feel some information needs to be updated to be included all in the same place, or at least a tag line on the end of the videos to say 'to implement this you will need to watch such and such video because there has been updates', or something along those lines.
The one thing that has really bugged me though and I am going to contact them about is the fact I did pay $97 (which after clickbank tax was £81 about $116), because I didn't 'navigate away' from the page. Had I navigated away, I would have received an offer of almost a 20% discount (which I assume is the amount payable monthly thereafter?).
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great content and well delivered, but why should I pay 20% more than someone who was going to leave the page, just because I thought it was a good thing and carried on with the enrollment process??
I am happy so far inasmuch I have managed to get a campaign up and running, but I haven't made any $$$ yet which is the reason I joined. We'll see, I might just get my money back, not sure yet, it's early days and I'm not afraid of the learning curve.
If it [u]was[/u] so easy, why isn't everyone doing it???
Just my 2c
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VictoriaNTC
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:05
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Thank you both IP and redsadie for your research and time.
I appreciate it so much.
Have a wonderful weekend,
Victoria
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2009 14:06
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A $97.00 a month investment is NOTHING compared to starting a brick and mortar business. I had a franchise with Doubledaves pizza that took 500K to get started and that didn't count monthly rent and payroll...
The GREAT thing about the Internet is you can start a business for a couple hundred dollars and earn that back in a matter of a couple weeks or days...
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2009 08:33
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I was a member of the Maverick Money Makers Club for two months. Last week I resigned, and got my refunds from Clickbank.
My experience:
1. The club provides some value, no doubt about that. The videos are very good, and easy to follow.
2. I even signed up for the VIP upgrade, around $50 extra each month.
3. As a VIP member, I got an invitation to call one of his team members to get going. However, this was quite early, and as I am living in another part of the world my phone bills would have increased significantly. So I didn't. Maybe this was a mistake.
4. The other "benefits" I got for being a VIP, was to buy extra products for a lowered price, I think it was about half of the original price. I really expected more as a VIP.
5. The quick money blueprints was tempting to start with, and I decided to use them as a proof of the value for this club.
6. First, I started with a hair loss program, with a product that had a 5% conversion. This was one of the quick money blueprints. Spent money for about 250 clicks on adwords, with no sales. Of course I stopped this campaign.
7. Then I tried to promote MMM with adwords, just to see no conversions for this either. And besides, google don't like the popup/agent on the sales pitch page of MMM. Yes, I think they should now about this and remove it. And MMM don't provide conversion tracking up front on their affiliate page, which is a drawback.
8. Then I started to get recomendations from MMM of other products to buy, products that MMM promoted as affiliates. Some of these products had lots of serious scam warnings around, and MMM really started to loose credibility.
9. MMM is quite pricey, even if it costs a lot more to start typically offline business. However, the prices should be compared to similar offers on the internet.
10. There are other programs or courses to follow with more straight to the point actions, than MMM.
11. I tried other approches to test the techniques the club teaches. However still with no real profit. This doesn't mean they are worthless, however it will take much more time.
13. Only a minor knowledge base available on relevant question.
14. Just details, however, alarm bells were ringing when easy task like resolving passwords had to be directed to the support for manual follow up.
15. The support was present, after all. They answered withing reasonably time, however often with short and not with too explisit information.
16. Maybe I also expected a "club" feeling. However there are no communication between its members, no forum available either. And mostly the email I got from MMM was when they wanted to sell more products.
17. I may not have done everything correct, however for me, and after an overall consideration, I didn't find enough value in this club to continue.
And I am not promoting this club anymore
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thisworks
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2009 19:45
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The Maverick Money Makers Club
has sure opened my eyes.
I joined back in Nov 08 and have
made money every month since...
This is not money from just
memberships, it's money that
I made from other things that
I learned about in the Club!
People need to realized that everything
will not work for everybody - There are
too many variables.
Depending on where you are in your marketing
career, MMM can unlock the key to you making
alot of money, however, be willing to work it!
In my opinion, and as someone who has a valid
membership... MMM is legit!
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2009 21:29
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Good day ppl.
My name is Gerald and i would just like to share with you guys my experience with MMM..I joined about 3 weeks ago.I am some what satisfied.
First off i have no Computor skills,Just got this comp.2 months ago to try and make some money on-line.So i looked at alot of them before i found this one.
What drew me to Mack was his up front Video's.No other site i looked at offered me this..To see what the business was all about first.
So i joined as an Affilliate.You still get most if not all of his secrets this way to see if you can make any money first before you actually join..He gives you all free sites to promote through,and other low cost sites too if you want to use them.
The set up was easy even for me ,So i'm sure anyone could do it.
The only problem i have run into is trying to get my Articles published with "Ezine"..But any one with the skills needed to write Articles would have no problem here.
The only cost to me so far was to purchase my domain name at Go Daddy.com under 20. CDN. for a 2 year subscription.
Also can use " I Snare" for 2. a click,Or 59.95 per month.
US freeads.com,Google groups,Craigs list,Vista Print are just a few others he shows you
I am not here to try and promote this in any way shape or form.
Just thought i would try to shed a little light on the subject.And hopefully help in some way..Still waiting to get my first Articles published.
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2009 23:19
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dlozen: A $97.00 a month investment is NOTHING compared to starting a brick and mortar business. I had a franchise with Doubledaves pizza that took 500K to get started and that didn't count monthly rent and payroll...
lol - yes, I have spent way more than $97 a month on several of my ventures... once again, I think the point is simply that some things will work for one person and other programs will work for others...
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2009 00:31
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Hi, guys.
I too had been doing some research on MMM after clicking on someone's link in another forum, and I must say that I was very intrigued by the crisp, clean and well laid out web site and high quality videos. Intrigued enough to be compelled to become a member after reading the content and viewing all of the videos on the site.
Needless to say, I followed a nagging hunch to check the site out
on Google to see what other members' experiences were before making a well informed decision.
Lo and behold, my research led me to the forum mentioned above with a discussion about MMM. And as I read through all of the comments it became apparent that there was something more to MMM than I was being led to believe by the persuasive copy on the web site.
It would be a shame to know that members aren't really getting their monies' worth from what they learn in MMM, since the web site serves as a great example of how a very well laid out web page should be developed to attract prospective customers.
In my opinion, the Mack Michaels character speaks in a way that is non-threatening to those who are turned off by over the top sales
pitches. But after having learned about what could be a possibly deceiving sales pitch to become a member, I chose not to pursue it further.
Now, I suppose there may be some members who are having success with the program, and that would be good to know since it would be a good indicator that the program/membership is built to last. But I prefer to wait and see more proof of members actually having great success with what is being taught and applied through MMM, and not just success as an affiliate of the program itself.
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Daylynne
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2009 04:32
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Hi Mapilkfish... et all
Not only have I heard of Mack Michaels and his Maverick Money Makers... but I'm a member. Yes, other replies were right on some things, the $97 a month is very steep. But one needs to weight the real value for the price.
I am glad I joined even at the price, the videos with Mack are most excellent. But the other content is priceless. He has one section where every program is a full turnkey operation, and there are 148 of them. Now... THAT is real value. If I offered you just one of those for $97 you'd be a fool not to grab it, and I have 148 of them. And the content goes on and on. The quick money section has 8 areas to start with and have some fast cash.
I'm not selling anything here. I feel that to appraise a product or person, weighing their reputation on what people THINK it might be is not the way to do it. So now you have an actual testimony. ... be nice guys.
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2009 11:25
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Hello Daylynne,
Thank you for your feed back on the MMM.
Can you please elaborate more on the section with a full turnkey operation (148).
I tend to take in consideration your actual testimony.
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2009 00:50
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I think that Maverick Money Makers is a great place for newbies to get started with afilliate marketing techniqes. If you're experienced it will have little value for you since tmoste of the material are tried and old techniques that you could find for free in the the Warriers Forum or here.
My adivice is if you are new to Internet marketing. Join Maverick Money Makers. Get what information you can from the group then quit...
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2009 01:50
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Interesting feedback from all, MMM sounds overrated to me for the price compared to other programs out there.
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2009 02:49
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Hi Aleksandar...
Its refreshing to see someone actually want to gain some knowledge from someone elses experience.
Maybe some of the full turnkey courses may be old, but they look pretty saleable to me. (although I'm not a rank Newbie)
I dont think this is the place to list all the courses that MMM has in the turnkey section. So, I'm listing a few of them here.
This is a sample of what most of them include:
This is titled: Face Book Profits and includes:
1 90 pg Ebook
12 Sales Emails ready to send
A day-to-day email course (5 lessons)
11 editable articles
Keyword lists
Keyword researchs
3 complete audio sales pitches
Landing page
Sales page
resale rights
thank you pages
A few of the many turnkey products offered:
AdSense Revenue Exposed
Advanced SEO
Becoming Debt Free
Bloggers Guide to Profits
Article Page Machine
Content Creation Secrets
Easy Selling Software
Domain Name Money
Joint Venture List Building
Niche Marketing Profits
Viral Article Toolkit
Viral Traffic Generation
All in all I think that these are well worth the $97 and then some.
They all include most of the things I itemized above.
If you would like more information, I would be glad to supply it... if you can contact me outside this forum (so we dont bore everyone else) 
But I actually think the section titled Quick Money Blueprints, containing 8 sections, which is my favorite, it is really the insider secrets type of thing and easy to understand and follow.
My answer to Dlozen: I'm sorry, but although you are entitled to your own opinion on anything, I think the comments you made should only be made if you had actually been a member and have seen the offerings in the entire Club. Otherwise how could you possibily pass judgement on the content (not knowing what the content was).
Thanks all I hope this helps some of you.
Be nice guys... we're here to try to help one another, not to try to ruin people.
Daylynne Starr
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