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karls1973
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2007 12:58
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Lately I have been receiving quite a lot of emails from companies offering me a job taking payments from their clients here in the US and transfer the money via Western Union to their offices located mainly in the UK and China.
These companies promise 10 - 15% commission for every payment sent with a potential income of $1,000.00 weekly. Someone told me to stay away from those because they will ask you to submit financial information. These offers are not legit and the payments you receive from so called "clients" could be counterfit!
I'm not sure where these companies get my email address from, I certainly do not have any ads posted in job-websites.
I am a member of many Survey websites, could it be that this is where they get my email address?
Does anyone have experienced with these Business Opportunity scams?
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netresult
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2007 16:38 · Edited by: netresult
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If a complete stranger stopped you in the street and asked you to transfer funds on their behalf...?....Western Union...?
Look, this is how it works...
1. You agree.
2. They only have a closed cheque (check) which is 'not transferable'.
3. They ask you to cover the funds, give you the (dud) cheque which covers the amount.
4. You pay in that amount out of your funds less a nice commission for your trouble.. et voila...robbed! C'est tres simple, malheuresement!!
5. Laissez ca!!
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karls1973
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2007 18:41
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Quoting: netresult 3. They ask you to cover the funds, give you the (dud) cheque which covers the amount. 4. You pay in that amount out of your funds less a nice commission for your trouble.. et voila...robbed! C'est tres simple, malheuresement!!
Ok, so I receive the cheque(s) from their client(s).
1) I take them to my bank and wait until the cheque(s) are cleared. Now the money is in my account.
2) I deduct the 10 - 15% commission, and transfer the rest to the company overseas via Western Union.
I just made a nice amount of money without any hard work. If the cheques don't clear with my bank, there won't be any transfers.
Where does the ... robbed part come in?
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Casper
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2007 22:15
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I don't like the sound of this it's a bit like money laundering.
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finn
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2007 23:12
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This definitely sounds like a scam to me - anything using Western Union to put funds through is risky. The other night on a current affairs program they were showing people who'd been scammed out of thousands of dollars through eBay - the give-away was that payments were to Western Union, but all the emails looked exactly like eBay ones.
I have recently received a number of scammy emails - I'm wondering if it might be survey sites as well.
I've had 3 offering me up to $2million from some grant and a millionaire's estate. Asking for basic identity details (which of course I won't give!) and of course, bank details to 'deposit the money into' (ha!).
So . . . could be money laundering too as Casper says.
All in all, sounds pretty dodgy to me!
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karls1973
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2007 11:43
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Quoting: finn I've had 3 offering me up to $2million from some grant and a millionaire's estate. Asking for basic identity details (which of course I won't give!) and of course, bank details to 'deposit the money into' (ha!).
Yes, there are tons of emails offering huge commissions for using your bank account to transfer money from an "enheritance". But those are known as "Nigerian Scam". There are many lottery scams as well.
The one I was talking about they advertise as a "Home Business Opportunity". And I get them at my email address which I use for taking Surveys only. Could it be that some of these Survey sites sell my information to others? This scares me, because people out there know from my surveys about my income, my age, my gender, where I live, how many credit cards I have, if I am married, how many cars I have, and the list goes on.
I must agree with Casper as well, certainly does not sound good.
This is the latest offer which I received last night:
Good day, I'm Mr Daniel Gerrad and I own a company Based on Chinese and African textile and fabric material in the UK. I'm in search for a trustworthy representative in the United States that can help as a link between me and my clients over there. I just reviewed your email through my email search I would like to know if your are interested to work from home for us DL ARTS COMPANY LIMITED .I Urgently need a representative in the United States,work online from home and get paid weekly without leaving or affecting your present job?
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2007 19:49
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Karl,
Sounds like a scam that would really scrape you hard...and in more ways than one.
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ssamekul
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2007 14:16
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Oh my goodness, these are so popular in my inbox. well at least one of them. I get these messages quite often.
In some, the author says that he's sick on his death bed and that he has a huge fortune and no children to give it to. And wants you to give the money to some charity organization of your choice.
I've never really followed though on any of these "great offers" but i'm sure you get to a point where you have to give them some sort of financial information about yourself in order to recieve the money.
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JenniferF
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 12:44
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Casper: I don't like the sound of this it's a bit like money laundering.
That's exactly what it is. The rub is you cash or deposit the check, keep your portion and wire transfer (in most cases) the balance. Two-three weeks, maybe even a month later, the check comes bouncing back and you are left facing the authorities.
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 12:54
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Yes and the illegal aspects of it do not sit well with the authorities.
Scams are coming thick and fast online and the scammers are getting more and more inventive.
I get these types of emails in my spam box and just delete without opening.
I can spot them a mile off now.
From the 'job offers' to the 'my client dies in a plane crash and you can half his estate if you help with a small issue'
Bleh.
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paxkine
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 21:55
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ummm yeah unfortunately I know someone who fell for this and lost $5k and had their credit ruined with check systems (when you try to open a checking account, etc.)
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CSGWAHM
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 23:42
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Yep, this screams scam!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 03:11
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This is a scam of course.
I don't know about checks 'clearing', but I am betting, whether the check 'clears' or not, the check is counterfeit, or illegit in some way.
Checks may 'clear' in a number of days but it takes longer to find out if they are counterfeit apparently.
I don't know why they can't determine that right away, or before too long, but I believe that's the issue.
But if something goes wrong, and the bank finds out the check is a dud, even after it 'clears', guess who'll they'll be coming after? And I'll bet you won't be getting anymore emails from your client!
Just FYI, the latest one of those I got came from BELGIUM, and used the BASF website as a reference, claiming to be a BASF CEO.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 03:16
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karls1973: This is the latest offer which I received last night: Good day, I'm Mr Daniel Gerrad and I own a company Based on Chinese and African textile and fabric material in the UK. I'm in search for a trustworthy representative in the United States that can help as a link between me and my clients over there.
Sure, an international businessman, based in the UK no less, has to spam in order to find a 'trustworthy rep' in the USA??
Now does that sound fishy or what?
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2008 22:52
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Anyway, here is what a forged counterfeit WALMART MONEY ORDER loox like:
http://www.barncow.com/counterfeit-walmart-moneyorder.jpg
And I just got THREE of these by UPS!!
Word is, these money order/m.o. numbers have already been cashed!
Not only will you be scammed, but you will likely be ARRESTED and taken to JAIL when you try to cash them.
This being that you are participating in a counterfeit money order scam.
This has happened to some folx who took these rags to the bank and tried to cash them - thinking GOD was answering their prayers!!
In other words, don't even THINK of cashing these fakes, and then not sending them their take!!
To protect yourself, be VERY wary of any money order, from someone you don't know.
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Thalia999
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2008 22:41
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Greetings,
Been reading about these scams and I have a relative that it happened to. He answered a job from a company called S & K marketing. Cameras would be delivered to his door and then he would ship them to all parts of the world. My relative lives in Australia and he would go to Western Union, get the delivery charge for the post office postal charges and send the camera off. He was promised $25 dollars for each packaged sent overseas. He ended up sending 6 packages and never got paid in the end. You guys are right, anything to do with Western Union transfers is a huge scam.
Take care
Thalia
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johntanyishin
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2008 04:04
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That is a simple one to reply.
If you are seeing the person in real, hold on tight to your wallet, RUN!
If you received the email, delete it and don't even think about it anymore.
Maybe one out of 1,000,000,000 (I wish I can add more zeroes) is legit but most likely they are scams.
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