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ojbee
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2009 08:46
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I'm looking for a good business online and TriVita has caught my attention. I've been following the discussions on this forum by Trivita members for some months. I've got a few questions and would be glad if some of the members who have been with Trivita for longer than six months can share their success and difficulties by giving some facts and figures. It's clear that people love the products.
My questions:
How do you guys go about building the downline - the most difficult part of mlm? Do you do it online, offline, word of mouth?
What's a realistic amount of investment generate reasonable income - say $5,000/month?
How much are people making monthly?
On average, how many of the customers you bought from the company are placing orders monthly?
I hope I'm not asking for too much; just an attempt to complete my due dilligence.
Thanks guys.
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Sorella
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2009 15:46
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Congratulations Christy.
I agree June has been a great month. I just got home from planning and hosting a family reunion and signed up three of my immediate family members as customers for Nopalea. It is the easiest thing I've ever done ~ to literally just Share & Earn. I was so excited to see the new GOH! I'll be using that to seal the deal with several more family members as well in the coming days and weeks. Every day I just love and appreciate TriVita more. There is just nothing to compare. While at home I had somebody do the 'Oh no not MLM groan' thing with me and we discussed the difference between their experience and our Co-operative Mrkt model. They had never heard of anything like TriVita. Thanks Denise for that concise email you sent me when I joined doing a comparison between MLM and our Co-Operative Marketing Model. I'll be following up there with the fabulous video our team has ready to go along with a GOH. That's the thing I love most about TriVita and our team - everything is there and ready to go to help me.
Nopalea has truly saved my son's life, enhanced my business and given me the means to help so many people I come in contact with daily.
Rebecca
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Sorella
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2009 16:25
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Hi ojbee,
I've been with Trivita for just over 8 months and you are right, Affiliates and customers love the products. As with any business each of us is different with different talents, strengths and resources, so we each build our businesses differently. I say this so you will understand I can only speak specifically for myself and mention those things we are trained on.
I use all three of the methods: internet, some offline and lots of word of mouth, especially since the launch of the Sonoran Bloom product line (Nopalea).
Most successful for me right now is the person to person - not quite warm market, since I'm telling everybody about Nopalea. I'm also doing tasting parties soon. Those doing tasting parties are having great success, especially with good follow-up. I also run solo ads online and use all the social marketing I can. I'm going to start a couple new idea I just heard on a training call as well. I can't tell you how valuable our training call really are. There are new ideas, with the training on how to implement them, great new tools and so much more every week! I'm just not into the rah, rah stuff I got in other opportunities.
Customer orders vary month to month. Some people order monthly, while others seem to stock up every three, six etc months. I think I need more time to answer that part of your question fairly. I'm sure Denise will be able to do a better job there. I will say my customer purchases are a better return on my investment than any of our other investments are by far! We are liquidating all but our 401K to buy customers this year. We did our yearly review and made our choice. I intend on doing more follow-up with Thank yous and some promotions with my customers in the future and track those results.
Trivita also has some fantastic products that lend themselves so easily to niche marketing. My partner and I are just beginning to explore that as well.
I know those with more experience will be able to answer your questions in more depth. I just wanted you to know that even after eight months I've just scratched the surface of the possibilites with Trivita. I still wake up so excited about it every day. It's easy to share and I can't believe I'm saying this - it's even easy hosting one of our weekly opportunity calls.
Denise and our team provides some many tools to help you hit the ground running and you never have to slow your pace. There are people to help you at every turn. What YOU bring to your business is the 'secret' answer to most of the questions. I know I'm making a great return that gets better with each passing month. I would do it again in a heartbeat! Trivita is IT for me.
Good luck and hope to see you on our team soon.
Rebecca
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2009 11:10
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My experience with customer re-orders has been similar to Rebecca's. Some will be on a regular monthly order and some will stock up well in to the hundreds of $ every few months.
With TriVita's win-back program, even those who don't order for a while are contacted by the company with incentives to begin ordering again. There is nothing like TriVita's affiliate support in this industry anywhere.
I just returned from vacation with family and was handing out product at my their request...no pushing required. As usual for me, the Super B12 is a favorite, especially to give a healthy boost for those long driving days.
Choose someone you feel comfortable with and get going. You'll be glad you did.
Deb
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2009 23:11
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I am a newbie here. Until yesterday I had never even heard of Trivita. It sounds great and the marketing program sounds equally great...except it sounds a great deal like MLM, and I do not do well with MLM. I am not one to recruit everyone I come in contact with. I suppose that I could do it, but I would not be very comfortable doing it and I would not like it. Now, if I used the product and loved it and actually made money with it, you would likely have a hard time getting me to shut up!
I am looking for a way to replace income lost in the mortgage banking business and I am certainly open to suggestions.
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2009 23:54
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Would anyone care to make a suggestion on how I should start in this business and who I should start it with?
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Seabead
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2009 17:36
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Hi cabindweller,
It is important to feel comfortable with the people you choose in a new business, so read more and get a feel for each of us and go from there. Most of us have sig lines with contact info and are willing to answer your questions.
It is mlm, but different in many respects. I have found that it works better for those, like me, who are not as assertive as you might picture a network marketer.
I don't buy many customers. The product info attracts people from my web meanderings and sometimes I don't even know about them until I see them in my customer group, so it can be done in a laid back way.
Everyone TriVita affiliate I know is willing to help anyone who reaches out and asks.
Deb
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2009 22:56
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FAQ - July 10th
Frequently Asked Questions ???
Q. What is the best way to Pay It Forward in the Share and Earn program with Nopalea?
A. Use the Nopalea Gift of Health to enable your prospects to experience and enjoy Nopalea as your gift to them (Pay It Forward) at a reduced price of $20 US and $30 CAN. This price also includes shipping. Your taxes are based on your local rates. Your recipients will be excited to receive your gift, and your follow up to them is essential. Go to www.sonoranbloom.com to participate in this exciting new program or you may phone in your orders.
Q. What will the recipients of the Nopalea Gift of Health receive besides the bottle of Nopalea?
A. The recipients will be sent a special edition catalog just for them along with a special edition of our VitaJournal. The MD Health Alert, and a personal note from the sender will be included in the box with the bottle of Nopalea. They will be able to experience the wealth of information regarding the product, but also all the other benefits of helpful information to keep you and your loved ones healthy.
Q. I am currently a Member and seriously considering becoming an Affiliate Member. I have over 500 Vita Points. When is the best time to use the Vita Points?
A. The time to use your Vita Points is prior to becoming an Affiliate Member, otherwise you will be unable to use them after your conversion. The program was set up to reward a Member for their product usage. As an Affiliate Member, you are rewarded for your efforts through a compensation pay out structure.
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Sorella
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2009 13:26
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Hi Cabindweller,
If you like to help others by letting them know what works for you and your family, then you've just hit on my best marketing method. Especially with the new Sonoran Bloom product line. I'm not your typical sales person either. I never do well with those programs. But when you use products that really make a difference and there are so many searching for solutions to problems...well I just can't keep quiet. I find myself talking to people in the supplement aisles all the time. People are so confused about wellness.
As Deb and stros both pointed out Trivita helps out with some great marketing tools. We have a tremendous team and no matter who you join with you will be given personal attention, mentoring and all the things you need to succeed working your business in the way best suited to your goals and personality.
You can't go wrong with Trivita! We have calls that explain the opportunity too if you would like to join one.
DIAL 212-461-5860 - Pin 7878#
Tuesday - 12:00 Noon Eastern and 8:00pm Eastern (Pin 0752# - the Tuesday night call is TriVita's update call which you can invite prospects to)
Wednesday - 2:00pm Eastern
Thursday - 9:00pm Eastern
Friday - 12:00 Noon Eastern
Saturday - 11:00am Eastern and 8:00pm Eastern
Sunday - 8:30pm Eastern
Monday - 9:00pm Eastern
Good Luck,
Rebecca
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Sorella
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2009 14:54
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I listened to Ken talk about making Director on Saturday's call. What a great job he did!! Congratulations again Ken and thanks for the great information you so generously shared with us on how you've made a success of your Trivita business. Our team members continue to show exactly why we are the Fastest Growing Team in Trivita. One of the things that continues to impress me is the way we work together to share ideas, marketing tools and support so all of us can reach our goals more quickly. Ken certainly exemplifies all of this and more. He isn't in my specific leg, but I've used many of his ideas to more effectively follow up with my leads and prospects.
Continued Good Luck Ken and Thanks Denise for making all this team work possible.
Rebecca
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2009 15:17
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Ken is my upliner and he helps me with everything, he is amazing!!
I really admire him 
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# Posted: 23 Jul 2009 16:23
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Hi all!
I have to agree with both of you, Stros and Rebecca, Ken is wonderful and we are very fortunate to be in the same team. I've known him for years and he's always been tremendously generous and a team player... He did do an amazing job on the call explaining his TriVita experience and how he's gotten to where he is in the business. 
On a different note, I'm seeing a lot more orders for the Nopalea product from my existing customers! I think the word is finally getting out there about how useful it is for inflammation.
For those looking for testimonials, you should check out www.nopaleaworks.com (it's not an affiliate link or anything- just a site full of testimonials on the product)
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# Posted: 23 Jul 2009 16:39
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Sorella: But when you use products that really make a difference and there are so many searching for solutions to problems...well I just can't keep quiet.
You just hit the nail on the head, Rebecca! That's why I think TriVita was so smart to stick to product marketing specifically for so long... Their objective is to bring on happy customers. The affiliate program is simply a perk for those of us that happen to know about it!
The majority of customers in TriVita have absolutely no idea they are even part of a business plan. They simply buy the products because they like them!
It's funny, I was just on the phone with a brand new affiliate sign up about an hour ago- she called me 2 days ago specifically to order the b12 (she had found my blog and had no idea at first that I was an affiliate rather than a service rep at the company). Anyway, when she called me, she knew NOTHING about the business opportunity... All she knew was that she had heard the B12 works to boost your energy and she wanted to try it... When I mentioned I was an affiliate and not a sales rep, she started asking for more info... She was knowledgeable about MLM and had been in a couple other nutritional businesses in the past, so fortunately it was sort of an easier conversation than speaking to someone that has no experience at all, but still- when I explained TriVita's happy customer first stance, she got it! It was like an instant "ah ha!" moment- CUSTOMERS need to be the driving force for any business, without them as the backbone, the company can't survive...
In most MLMs, you find that the affiliates are the only customers the business has- when they start to drop out because they aren't making any money, the company suffers...
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2009 17:47
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Hi everyone! I recently joined Sonoran Bloom as an affiliate member and have to say that I am very impressed with the availability and support of my upline and the TriVita corporate office. I look forward to getting my product in and hopefully developing my own testimonial as a fibromyalgia sufferer.
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2009 13:49
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Welcome Ulanda,
Wonderful to have you as part of our team here at Trivita. I have a friend who suffers with fibromyalgia too. I asked Dr Minsew a question about it through the Weekly Wellness Report and he sent me a great email about it. It was like my own personal Wellness Report on fibromyalgia. If you would like me to forward it to you please email me and I will be more than happy to send it to you.
I wish you much luck as you launch you new business and know you will continue to have all the help and support you need to succeed. I have found the weekly training call to be tremendously valuable in learning about the opportunity and products. They also give great marketing tips and teach the best ways to talk with prospects. The Tue, Thu and Sat calls are especially helpful, but I listened to all the calls at first so I could really hear how to talk about the company and products with confidence.
I know you are going to love the products and do wonderfully with your business. Trivita is unique and well Trivita is IT!
Rebecca
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# Posted: 31 Jul 2009 19:39
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Nopalea Infomercial Update
Catch the Vision and Opportunity of Nopalea MAP
It was not that long ago when TriVita first launched its Sublingual B-12 radio show and television infomercial. After 10 years, over 260,000 airings and over 11 million B-12 boxes sold, many Affiliate Members have built long-term residual businesses from this highly successful co-op advertising program.
The tradition of product and media success will continue at this year's 2009 Galaxy of Stars event with the highly anticipated launch of TriVita's newest infomercial promoting our latest product – Nopalea. Affiliate Members who participated in the early days of B-12 know the value of catching the vision early and seizing the opportunity. However this new media program will not only bring in new members it will also bring in new Affiliate Members enrolled and on autoship. This exciting co-op advertising opportunity helps you grow your business by expanding your team down through 7 tiers, giving you the ability to earn residual income from the TriVita compensation plan!
This year's event is all about you, our valued Affiliate Members, and your success. We will focus on business training that will cover the important Nopalea infomercial launch, including; how to become qualified as a mentor and learning how to follow-up with these Members and Affiliate Members. We will also have a session for newly enrolled Affiliate Members, product training as well as the exciting tasting parties.
Attend this year's event as an attendee but leave as a leader. As business author John Maxwell explains, first understand, practice and teach others by your example.
"A leader is one who knows the way, goes the way, and shows the way".
John Maxwell, Business Author
"This is going be a pivotal event for TriVita. For the first time TriVita will launch a new infomercial that promotes the Nopalea product along with TriVita's unique business opportunity. I encourage you to attend to learn first-hand how this cooperative marketing program is designed for your success", states Marcus Ellison, Sr. VP Sales & Marketing for TriVita.
To register for this informative and inspiring event click here, or call 1-800-TRIVITA. Be sure to reserve your room at the beautiful Westin Kierland Resort and take advantage of TriVita's special room rate by calling (800) 354-5892 and using the code TRIVITA or by clicking here.
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# Posted: 1 Aug 2009 14:22
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I hate to burst the rah rah Trivita bubble going on here, but after being in Trivita for a year I am extremely dissatisfied!!
(I have 5 in my downline and over 500 customers!)
Why? Because to get paid on all levels I have to pay a minimum of $40 each month, know what I average monthly with all that?
About $40 to $100 a month!! So take away the $40 bucks and a overload of products in my garage I basically get a very LOW income not even enough to pay my cell phone bill.
In fact I have the entire kit-n-kaboodle up for sale !
There are much better and more lucrative ways to earn a income take my word for it! I even asked my upline if any of them want to purchase my Trivita business and they said thanks but NO THANKS so even the upline are not happy but they won't admit it otherwise they would have purchased my biz.
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2009 11:01
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Thanks Luvtravel.
You made my day. You've provided precisely the sort of info that I requested. I appreciate you loads.
Of course, I realise yours might just be an exception and it may not be appropriate for non-members of Trivita to base our decision to join or not on a single person's experience. But facts and figures are essential and I invite other members to provide us honest records of their performance. Good leaders, great payplan and excellent marketing are great, but what use are they if members are only picking up the crumbs from the company's table.
Kind regards to you all.
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2009 11:41
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ojbee: Thanks Luvtravel. You made my day. You've provided precisely the sort of info that I requested. I appreciate you loads. Of course, I realise yours might just be an exception and it may not be appropriate for non-members of Trivita to base our decision to join or not on a single person's experience. But facts and figures are essential and I invite other members to provide us honest records of their performance. Good leaders, great payplan and excellent marketing are great, but what use are they if members are only picking up the crumbs from the company's table. Kind regards to you all.
She is not the exception ojbee. The ROI is not very good here in my opinion as well. You really need a huge organization to make what most would consider decent money.
I know of several people who have stopped their autoships and if you go back into the threads you do see how many people have stopped posting.
It is important to be honest in these online businesses because the fact is people do not have money to burn these days. I feel strongly about telling people all the sides to the story!
Take care,
Laura
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2009 19:25
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*gasp* *shock**awe*- it takes WORK to make this business make money?? Who'd have guessed?!?!
Forgive me, I am NOT one to typically "rock the boat" and point out flaws in people's supposed truths, but if you all want facts here, let's not just talk facts about the company and the business model, but about the stories behind the folks supposedly telling these facts...
First, the company-
FACT- Yes, it does take work to make a substantial income with TriVita... but that should go without saying for any business you wish to build! Can you think of any legitimate business where you can start it, sit on your butt and actually MAKE a ton of money with no action on your part??
If you are going to jump in and sit back and do nothing but earn off a one-time purchase of customers (no matter how many you buy), you might be looking at earning about 30% of your outlaid cash to join over the course of a year. In other words, if you treat TriVita like a stock investment, it's gonna pay like one. That's why TriVita is NOT an investment, it's a BUSINESS.
FACT- Anyone here that is complaining about the business from an ROI standpoint is in the business for the wrong reason... You should have joined TriVita because you liked the products and wanted to share them with others, not because of the payplan... The pay should have been the icing on the cake.
If you joined because MAP sounded like an easy way to make quick cash and you had no interest in nutritional supplements, you aren't going to be able to market the products or the company the way you should and will therefore fail. That's why TriVita's stance thus far has been on promoting their products and building their customer base- NOT on bringing in affiliates directly- they want happy customers first and affiliates derived from happy customers.
Now... questions/comments for those stating their "facts" above:
Terri- Did you refer any of the 5 people you have under you? Or were they given to you by your sponsor? I already know the answer... but it would be great for those reading this thread to know as well... I bet those coded bonuses added up to a nice chunk of change quickly, huh?
Also, of those 5 affiliates, do you talk to any? Did you help train any of them and help them get started building their businesses? I see you blog, did you teach them how to do that? Because, quite frankly, blogging is about 50% of what has helped me build my TriVita organization to 40 people since February...
Also, just as an FYI here regarding the sale of your business... As stated in Policies and Procedures, you can only sell the business to someone TOTALLY new to TriVita or to your DIRECT upline or downline... Though, there really is not much incentive for your upline to buy it if your customers will roll up to them for free after you've decided to leave the business and quite frankly, if you haven't spoken to your downline and they've become disenchanted without your direction or guidance, you don't have much hope of selling there...
Laura- didn't the group you were part of essentially get shut down by the company for making false, overindulgent income claims? Just asking since you seem to be so keen on pointing out the importance of honesty in online business.
Again, I am not one to typically rock the boat, but when people claim that others need to see "both sides of the story", they need take into consideration the WHOLE story, including the background on the folks telling the story... In fact, as a note to those reading this now, if you see someone put down a business without any substance as to WHY- ask them what they did to help their own business grow- I think you'll find that in a lot of cases it's a "poor me, I didn't earn passively" response.
I do not agree with Terri's insinuation that this is a cheerleading thread (the rah-rah comment) and, in fact, think that the people posting here do provide the best overall information of any TriVita forum thread. There is REAL information here... not "I signed up another affiliate, woo hoo!" which is testiment to how Vashal runs this forum overall...
For those SERIOUSLY looking at TriVita as a join option (and ojbee, given that the first negatively posted thread is what sparked your attention as the "honest truth", I don't think you were seriously considering TriVita as an option), here are some true facts for you:
FACT 1: TriVita DOES need to be built, like any other business- businesses involve work, investment do not- make sure not to confuse the two
FACT 2: There are option for joining TriVita. If you need money now and have little to start with, joining through Sonoran Bloom is your best bet, BUT BE PREPARED TO WORK- the Share and Earn Program is geared toward true networking, it's not a free ride... If you don't work, you don't get paid.
FACT 3: Before you even join TriVita, TRY THE PRODUCTS! All affiliates are capable of gifiting Sub B12, Leanology capsules, OptimaFlex or Nopalea, so ask the affiliate you are considering as your sponsor for a 30 day supply of one of them. It's important that you believe in the products before you try promoting them...
FACT 4: For those looking for money later as opposed to now (which is the case for me) and are looking for a better return over the course of time than the stock market, 401k or a savings account, the steadfast packs and MAP program are perfect... Purchasing customers and the business itself is a tax write off and you'd be building up a business of value that can be sold- given that you have worked to keep the business growing and producing. I still highly suggest you WORK the business however... Whether that be buy "refreshing" your customer base over time with more MAPs, or getting out there and selling product or referring folks to the biz opp.
Final thoughts-
If you should have learned anything from this exchange of point of views, it's that not everyone can be pleased, if you are looking at ANY biz opp you need to be careful that you have full details on how a business works and you need to join with someone that you think is the right leader for you...
In Terri's case, I know she has a decent upline and leader, but I don't think she fully understood the business before joining or she joined thinking this was a quick buck business... That is not the case.
In Laura's case, I think she had a poor leader (as exemplified by the false income claims advertised that got the group shut down) she was following that gave her inappropriate expectations so that is the reason she is not happy. TriVita is not right for everyone and that's fine! There are plenty of businesses out there that are not right for me.
Certainly I wish the best of luck to both of you in your business ventures and I respect your decision in not thinking TriVita is the right business for you for one reason or another just as I hope you would respect the fact that those of us posting here HAVE decided TriVita is right for us.
Kind Regards,
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Christy,
That was a great post, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I have not posted in awhile because I have had
some personal issues that have kept me from the
business for a few months.
But I still got paid every month during this time.
I have to say the business has not grown but
that is because I have not been able to work
the business.
But it also did not decline. That is because of the
customer base I still have that were purchasing
during these months that I have not been
active.
Thanks again, Christy.
Becky
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2009 19:56 · Edited by: LauraLicata
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WealthyWAHM: In Laura's case, I think she had a poor leader (as exemplified by the false income claims advertised that got the group shut down) she was following that gave her inappropriate expectations so that is the reason she is not happy. TriVita is not right for everyone and that's fine! There are plenty of businesses out there that are not right for me.
Christy,
I do not want to get into a back and forth with you but I will speak out about what you incorrectly assumed about me and my experience.
First of all, I work from home fulll time and have finally managed to make it in the 6 figure range through investments and such. I do know what I am doing.
I work with a partner and have had success with another business as well. I was not misled. I just realized that I can do better elsewhere. Period. I don't leave stones unturned but I can see reality pretty quickly. I saw that my money spent was better utilized elsewhere.
I am speaking out to people who are or can spend the money to put into purchasing 100 or more customers with TriVita. The ROI is not good and that money can better be used elsewhere with a much better return. I just joined Terri in saying this may not be the way to go. There is nothing wrong with giving an honest opinion.
I had at least 10 affiliates under me and well over 100 customers and was not seeing a decent return at all. The average person would need 1000's to really see a decent amount of money. That is why money is not spoken about in TriVita and not encouraged to be spoken about.
I was perfectly capable of working this business but have found much better avenues that were much more lucrative.
I don't believe you were around when this thread was started but the main claim was that you can just purchase customers and succeed.
That is a fact! It is also a fact that most of the regular people who posted here do not do so anymore.
Take care and good luck with your business.
Laura
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LauraLicata: Christy, I do not want to get into a back and forth with you but I will speak out about what you incorrectly assumed about me and my experience. First of all, I work from home fulll time and have finally managed to make it in the 6 figure range through investments and such. I do know what I am doing. I am speaking out to people who are or can spend the money to put into purchasing 100 or more customers with TriVita. The ROI is not good and that money can better be used elsewhere with a much better return. I just joined Terri in saying this may not be the way to go. There is nothing wrong with giving an honest opinion. I had at least 10 affiliates under me and well over 100 customers and was not seeing a decent return at all. The average person would need 1000's to really see a decent amount of money. That is why money is not spoken about in TriVita and not encouraged to be spoken about. I was perfectly capable of working this business but have found much better avenues that were much more lucrative. I don't believe you were around when this thread was started but the main claim was that you can just purchase customers and succeed. That is a fact! It is also a fact that most of the regular people who posted here do not do so anymore. Take care and good luck with your business. Laura
Laura,
I don't believe I made any assumptions about you or implied that you weren't capable of building the business... I just stated you might have had the wrong leadership and the wrong information and THAT may have been the reason it wasn't right for you... Regardless, I did agree that people need to understand joining at a steadfast pack takes work to recoup money spent. BUT, again, that's the case with any high priced opp... I just take comfort in the fact that I can account for every dollar spent to purchase my TriVita business with something tangible and didn't end up with a $49 product and about $1000 going to some sponsor somewhere as a prepayment for training that will never come (FYI-I don't need training to build my business- that comment was more made on behalf of those that do)
Good for you on the 6 figure income! I am not sure it's really relevant to the message I was trying to get across as to why TriVita might not have been for you, especially because you are trying to lump it with investments which you are making money with, but that is an accomplishment you should be proud of! Anyone making an income full-time from home certainly has it made and would have had to work hard to get there. 
I've worked from home for the past 8 years- full-time for 5 and can claim the same thing- 6 figure income earner in multiple online biz opps through the years and have owned/do own a few membership sites that consistently earn an income passively.
I was out of biz opps a good year before TriVita was introduced to me... I got tired of building up something new and watching it crumble as so many hyped up new mlm businesses do which is, perhaps, why I get so defensive when someone that has not worked a stable, growing business, yet collected some coded bonuses off someone else's building efforts, goes on a rampage about not being happy. (and no, I am not referring to you here)
I read back through the first page of posts and did not see a reference made to just purchasing customers to succeed. Regardless, I highly doubt at this moment that THAT post is what is making people jump to join or decide not to... Information gets lost in forum threads and typically the information read by readers includes the first post of the thread and the last whole page of posts in a thread... (kind of a quick review of what the business is and how it works and then a scan of whether it's still working now).
Stating your opinion on this not being the business to join is fine and is what makes forums so great. I believe in honesty as you do, but I also believe in giving folks the full picture and quite frankly I did not expect such a reasonable response to my post from you given your past responses to others... Thank you for that and I don't want to go back and forth either.
As for folks not posting, forum posters are a quirky bunch.... There can be months they post faithfully and others that post once in a while with huge gaps in between. It's also a fact that forum preferences change time after time and those that use forums for their primary promotion method are typically registered with multiple forums and go where the action is... so inactivity on their part now does not necessarily mean they aren't excited about the opp anymore... In fact, I am associated with most of them and am linked to them on Facebook and can confirm that most ARE still working their businesses- just not here...
Kind Regards,
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westfam11: Christy, That was a great post, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have not posted in awhile because I have had some personal issues that have kept me from the business for a few months. But I still got paid every month during this time. I have to say the business has not grown but that is because I have not been able to work the business. But it also did not decline. That is because of the customer base I still have that were purchasing during these months that I have not been active. Thanks again, Christy. Becky
Becky,
Happy to see you around again!
I spoke with Denise early this afternoon and we were talking about folks that have had personal issues going on lately... I am not sure of your particular situation, but I hope things are getting better for you!
That is certainly one benefit to TriVita... When I first joined I took a long time to get going simply because I was too busy with other things, but I did consistently get a check from TriVita every 2 weeks- it was definitely small potatoes compared to what it's been since I've been building things up, but it was money in hand nonetheless and you can't knock that!
Best of luck getting yourself going again.
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Best of luck Christy.....I just wanted to give another fair and accurate account of this business from another perspective.
That was my only purpose. Enough said.
Laura
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Let me start by saying big thanks to everyone who posted a response to my queries. I appreciate you all.
I like to say I was somewhat amazed that some people feel uncomfortable when some factual statistics were posted in response to my questions. Amazed because I dont understand when it becomes an offence to seek information and perform due dilligence before making an investment. I was also amazed to see that instead of giving straight forward answers, others indulged in long winded waffling.
I made clear I saw that people love the products, but personal products purchase decision is not the same as investment decision.
If some members disagree with the figures of performances given by Laura or Luvtravel, all they need do is give us their honest record of performance. How much did you invest, how many affiliates and how many customers do you have have; and how much do you make monthly?
Clearly you dont expect new people to join as affiliates without doing any investigation / due dilligence. It is also needless to assume that people who ask questions are some lazy or ill-educated guys who dont understant that building a successful business involves hard work.
Honest success stories are undoutedly essential in helping new and existing affiliates to build their business.
God bless you all.
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ojbee: Let me start by saying big thanks to everyone who posted a response to my queries. I appreciate you all. I like to say I was somewhat amazed that some people feel uncomfortable when some factual statistics were posted in response to my questions. Amazed because I dont understand when it becomes an offence to seek information and perform due dilligence before making an investment. I was also amazed to see that instead of giving straight forward answers, others indulged in long winded waffling. I made clear I saw that people love the products, but personal products purchase decision is not the same as investment decision. If some members disagree with the figures of performances given by Laura or Luvtravel, all they need do is give us their honest record of performance. How much did you invest, how many affiliates and how many customers do you have have; and how much do you make monthly? Clearly you dont expect new people to join as affiliates without doing any investigation / due dilligence. It is also needless to assume that people who ask questions are some lazy or ill-educated guys who dont understant that building a successful business involves hard work. Honest success stories are undoutedly essential in helping new and existing affiliates to build their business. God bless you all.
ojbee,
There is a big difference between "factual statistics" which yes, perhaps Luvtravel and LauraLicata posted based on their own business experience and ASSUMPTION that those factual statistics apply to everyone, which is what you are doing...
Every person's business is different because customer purchase habits vary!
My reply was not "long-winded waffling" due to discomfort by the numbers presented by them, but rather an EXPANSION on the facts to help people realize that just because they (or rather just luvtravel) posted a negative warning (I do believe that Laura was just trying to point out that this business takes work and might not have known luvtravel's story) that does not mean luvtravel's experience is the same as everyone else's...
If you want facts on "returns" in this business, you need to look at PERCENTAGES, not monthly dollar figures... Percentages give a more accurate representation of what can be expected based on your own efforts and the habits of customers. I've posted this in my guide in details- a break down of what those in my group are experiencing for numbers based purely on their MAP customer repurchases.
In my guide, I cite a 30% estimated return over the course of a year on what you put into the business based on MAP orders if you intend not to recruit affiliates. In reality, my return over the past year has been 42% from customer reorders alone and that includes "new money" put into the business buying additional MAP customers over time.
My percentage return factoring in referred affiliate coded bonuses (most of which I have given away since I am teambuilding) puts me at 74% return for the year. (I have given away about 12 steadfast pack referrals to those in my team which equates to between $1500-$2000 in coded bonuses given to others.)
Those numbers are based on an organization built 3 wide. I have 175 personal customers and over 1000 in my total organization. At this point I also have about 40 affiliates through 6 levels with a 50/50 split Sonoran Bloom to Steadfast packs.
TriVita makes no claims of expected earnings based on customer purchases alone because it's impossible... They don't like us posting our monthly earnings figures because those looking at the business would EXPECT the same sorts of dollar figure returns and that would come back to whack the company in the rear later.
Anyway.... you wanted math, I just gave you math in a more helpful way than just posting "I made $xxxx this month!" Regardless of whether you find the percentages helpful, I don't think you're looking at this business the right way, so I don't think it's a good fit for you... If you want an investment, by all means, go elsewhere- being with this company would require a bit more of a commitment on your part than just dumping in a lump sum of cash today and waiting... I consider it a better return than a savings account or a 401k and that's why I am content with the returns as it is.
Best of luck,
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I would really be cautious about liquidating a 401k to purchase customers. You have to take into account also the tax benefits of putting money into your 401k. I would also be curious to know the re-order percentage of these customers. Your 401k will fluctuate up and down but if your customers die or never make another purchase then you are out money. Don't get me wrong. I think everyone should own a home based business that they are passionate about but don't put all of your eggs in one basket. If I remember correctly I think customers are $50. Can you generate your own customers for less than that? Just something to think about.
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Thanks for the great response to the recent posts. It's difficult to add much more, but I wanted to share a couple ideas and information.
First to Jeff - yes I have been very successful in acquiring great customer for less the the $50 cost on my MAP customers. Many come from monetarily free advertising sources that take some of my time each day. Consistency and follow-up are the key factors. The giving of a 30 day trial of products I use has also brought me customers for less than MAP purchases. I still use MAP monthly because like Christy I'm making over 30% ROI and seeing that increase steadily.
I never discuss my specific earning with anyone I share a biz op with either. I find that can give an inaccurate expectation to those doing their due diligence. There are too many variables in home-based business ownership to give that type information. I can't know how or what they will do to build their businesses and guarantee the same compensation I'm getting. Christy is correct in saying a percentage ROI is far more accurate anyway. When looking at other investments, savings, 401k's the prospectus is also projected as a % of investment.
People come and go in forums for many reasons not associated with their enthusiasm for or success in their business. Like Becky, I was absent due to deaths in my family, selling a long held family farm after my father's death and serious health issues in my husband's family. The great thing for me was my business did continue to produce greater compensation for me, just more slowly.
I don't understand how anyone could accumulate a garage full of unused products. I use and need more than the required products for my autoship. The products would keep me with Trivita even if I were to choose to leave the business end of things. They have made such significant changes in the health of my family. Nopalea is definitely responsible to saving my son's life. When we learned he had metabolic disorder with his blood sugar, cholesterol and triglycerides double or more than they should be we panicked. He is on only one medication and all but his triglycerides are now normal.
I share what I believe in - that's why my business continues to grow.
When entering a biz op I look for a great upline, but don't depend on them to build my business. That's my responsibility. I want the freedom to do things in a way comfortable for me. That's why I have a home based business after all. Saying that I have enjoyed faster and greater returns by being on a team where knowledge, tools and mentoring are so unselfishly shared.
During the last eight months I've been with Trivita, it has been the only investment that has shown increased ROI. I only wish our 401k would come close to a 30-74% ROI. It actually showed such negative return that we have reduced our monthly commitment and invested that in our business. My husband and I believe Trivita will be the primary source of income during our retirement. We also have a diverse investment plan, never putting all our eggs in one basket, but Trivita is our primary plan for future earnings. It's also the one we have the greatest control over.
Home based businesses aren't for everyone and for those of us that do like working a business from home finding the right match is crucial. Trivita is that for me and I find it a joy building something that will benefit my family for generations to come.
May each of you find success, prosperity and joy in the choices you make. I would say good luck, but I don't really believe luck plays much of a role in it. Diligence, consistent effort and belief in what I'm are doing have been the main factors in my commitment to Trivita.
Rebecca
PS Becky it's wonderful to see you back. Donna & I have missed you.
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2009 15:40
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Great post sorella, i would love to be able to write as you do :P
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