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PolskaSurf
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2006 19:31
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I agree with you guys. But I think it's pretty safe to be around when a good one is just starting and doesn't have that many members yet to make it a mess!
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ValcaInvestcom
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2006 19:34 · Edited by: ValcaInvestcom
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Exactly PolskaSurf, "Strike the Iron while it's hot". Get in early and play with profits and you will always come out ahead 
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PolskaSurf
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2006 19:40
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hehe exactly, that's why I'm working hard to get some referrals in return for offering them an honest service! to maxmize our profits and minimize the risk of the amount of our money involved!
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ValcaInvestcom
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2006 19:53
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I have the same idea as you too..
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PolskaSurf
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2006 19:55
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I like what you've done with the stats. Mind me asking how your referrals sign ups are coming along?
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ValcaInvestcom
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2006 00:29 · Edited by: ValcaInvestcom
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Right now, it's a bit difficult to gauge as I am also still advertising just plain program referral links in my ad campaigns and I have not yet decided to do a full scale ad campaign launch on valcainvest.com until it is 100% complete.
But I noticed on your site I guess you offer these pages to your downline as well is this correct? But replace your referral link with theirs. Is this managed globally somehow or do you have to edit each member's page indiviually?
BTW, how is your site working out for you?
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PolskaSurf
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2006 05:27
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With the 'clone' sites that I offer, I don't have that many people interested so it's not a problem for me to edit the links. I have made a special second site just for them without a lot of the info that I have on my main one and I can actually just change all the links in one go. I also offer custom colour schemes for the whole thing and other custom work on request so that takes some work.
The site is working rather well getting interest, but because the traffic is mostly untargetted the people who are interested just want to make lots of month without putting anything in.. :p
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prospectivehunter
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Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2006 17:59
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Question from a "newbie".
Do you have to have your own website to participate in these programs, such as Phoenix Surf and Alientrust? Or can you sign up and surf/click on the various ads and make money without your own site?
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PolskaSurf
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2006 18:06
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Quoting: prospectivehunter Do you have to have your own website to participate in these programs, such as Phoenix Surf and Alientrust? Or can you sign up and surf/click on the various ads and make money without your own site?
The answer is no, you don't have to have your own website. The reason why I created my Phoenix Surf promoting website is because I wanted to offer a service to anyone who signed up through my website so that I could help them get there own referrals and generally maxmize their profits and also to make some additional profits myself from the referral commissions.
A lot of people who sign up don't have an upline, but if they sign up through us and purchase a certain amount of upgrades we give them their own website free with content and hosting so that they can start getting their own referrals! A sort of compensation for signing up through us, and instead of not having an upline, the get lots of help from us and they get lots of additional profits as well from their own referrals which they got thanks to the website we make them!
You can still make great profits just by surfing, but the additional income you can make from referrals is great. If you're interested check out our site which is in my signature
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piggybanker
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2006 18:44 · Edited by: piggybanker
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Quoting: prospectivehunter Do you have to have your own website to participate in these programs, such as Phoenix Surf and Alientrust? Or can you sign up and surf/click on the various ads and make money without your own site?
You do not need to have your own site. These programs will give you a link that you can advertise such as:
http:// Iammakingabigmistake.com/? ref=lucky7777
I hope that isn't a real site and link.
If Phoenix Surf and Alien Trust operate like auto surf sites clicking on various ads may not and probably IS NOT necessary to earn money. Usually with auto surfs you would buy upgrades which are now mostly referred to as ad packs or something similar. You are paid a percentage for the amount of ad packs you purchase.
Example: 12% daily for 12 days $100 ad packs = $144 in 12 days.
Your risk - $100 plus the time spent turning on your computer and letting that thing run on auto pilot for a couple minutes.
Special Note: It's another sad day in the auto surf world. Auto-Surf-Money is Closed. I've watched too many closings.
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PolskaSurf
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2006 18:50
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Quoting: piggybanker Special Note: It's another sad day in the auto surf world. Auto-Surf-Money is Closed. I've watched too many closings.
Thanks for the special note, but it seems your website is promoting autosurfs..
but piggy is right, there is risk involved. You just have to pick the autosurfs right and work it hard during the beginning where there is least risk involved.
The autosurfs get messy when they have lots of members, hence lots of money to handle, payments to complete etc, and at that point they begin to fail.
When you start along with a solid autosurf in the first few months, its a safe bet I'd say, and I'm really happy with my choice of PhoenixSurf! 
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prospectivehunter
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# Posted: 27 Mar 2006 00:43
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Thanks for the prompt responses.
I'm going to look into it more and see what I'll decide on.
But thanks again.
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piggybanker
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# Posted: 27 Mar 2006 15:25
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Quoting: prospectivehunter I'm going to look into it more and see what I'll decide on.
#1 Rule of autosurfing: Never risk more than you can afford to lose.
Yes, my site was promoting one autosurf. I pulled all the advertising yesterday after the news about Auto Surf Money closing temporarily. Right after that message I received a message that eProfit Works is also temporarily closing. This is all due to restrictions on limits being placed on them by PayPal and E-Gold from what I'm hearing.
Since the StormPay/12dailypro situation my fear hasn't been with autosurfing. My fear is what I see happening right before our eyes. The most dominent payment processors appear to be squeezing out all of the competition and in doing so they've aided in forcing many autosurf owners to close shop. A recent example would be MyDollarSurf. PayPal allowed them to use their services for a short period of time and then pulled the plug on them. Now refunds are pending for many surfers.
Before you invest, go over to AutoSurfMonitor.com and look in the boneyard over there. The closed list is what I'm referring to and the scam list as well. I used to surf over 40 sites per day. I have less than 10 survivors and most of that I doubt I'll ever see a dime.
I'll be waiting for the dust to settle before I risk another penny in autosurfs. I have other income streams and autosurfs helped get them started. I'll use autosurfs again some day, but not until I'm sure I'll get paid. Phoenixsurf, Alien Trust, and WiredSurf all have or have had great rankings and my hats off to those who've gotten into profit. I was in profit at AlienTrust before the war. Then I risked about $40 more and Poof.....all gone.
I'm not against autosurf, in fact I'm all for it and I will probably be promoting again soon. I would like some feelings of security and now there is none.
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ValcaInvestcom
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2006 00:22 · Edited by: ValcaInvestcom
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It's really about getting in the solid programs early enough to come out ahead and getting out at the right time. For example, I knew 12dailypro was having problems as early as December 2005 due to several key factors and ended up reducing the size of my upgrades down to $6.
Focusing on building a downline is also a great way to significantly reduce your risk. It's always good to be "in the know" by educating and updating yourself about the industry on a daily basis. Also, not being too greedy and following through with both short term and long term financial goals will go a long way.
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justhavinfun
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2006 14:16
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I got paid $100 at autosurfhit.com. It's mainly for webmasters to promote their sites but they have a pay to click area and monthly cash contests. They use paypal to send payment to your email address.
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gudangemas
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2006 10:18
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Just wanna let everyone knows that AlienTrust is back in business again. For those who doesn't know, AlienTrust is the 2nd popular autosurf after 12DP. AlienTrust become manual surf now to avoid all the problems 12DP had before. AlienTrust still pay on time as before.
The other popular autosurfs at the moment are WiredSurf, CompactSurfing and PhoenixSurf.
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jimlp
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# Posted: 20 May 2006 02:01
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I have acustomed myself to keep away from autosurf programs as they can pick up some viral nasties (spyware) and all that. And stick with Manuel exchanges.
Would be interested to know which autosurf program has been around on the net for the longest time?
Jim Labra
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piggybanker
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# Posted: 20 May 2006 08:55
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Quoting: jimlp I have acustomed myself to keep away from autosurf programs as they can pick up some viral nasties (spyware) and all that. And stick with Manuel exchanges.
Would be interested to know which autosurf program has been around on the net for the longest time?
Jim Labra
To minimize the chance of getting the viral nasties you mentioned, I switched to Mozilla FireFox browser. I also run spybot, AVG free, CWshredder, and Norton Internet Security. AVG free (from Grisoft.com) has found and removed 4 viruses that Norton could identify but could not remove. I run spybot everyday to keep the spyware out.
DadnDaves is probably one of the longest running survivors. They adapt to the changes and continue to impress me with their approach to keeping members in profit. My guess would be if you ask Jim P. at autosurf cental or asked around at autosurf central cafe you could find out who is the longest running autosurf.
I also have adapted to the changes and have a new strategy that gets me into profit very quickly with less risk than I used to take. I began surfing 3 newer sites 2 weeks ago and by next week I should be able to announce that I'm in profit.
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bacpro
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2006 16:16
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Update: Palsurf is a scam.
Also I suggest that anyone that
joins any paid to surf program to
not use Paypal. Paypal will take
your money like Stormpay.
John
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bluetiestranger
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2006 22:54
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Alientrust is currently the most reliable autosurf. It is also the only one that I know that has a manual surfbar, which guarantees that people really look at your site
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piggybanker
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# Posted: 20 Jun 2006 18:13
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Quoting: bluetiestranger Alientrust is currently the most reliable autosurf. It is also the only one that I know that has a manual surfbar, which guarantees that people really look at your site
I'm not so sure about the guarantee part but I do agree that they are very reliable. Alertpaypro has added Money pages which I suppose you could say guarantees that people will look, but more than likely these steps offered by both sites are merely steps will temporarily increase viewing.
I say this because I surf both and I vote fairly at Alien Trust, but I really wouldn't have to vote fairly. I could just select the first site and answer the 5 questions at the end of surfing and never look at any of the pages. My problem is I DO look.....hahaha. I don't know why.
Three out of the four major sites I surf are manual traffic exchanges and they do get better advertising results, so the viewership is almost always going to be better with manual vs. auto surf programs. The numbers I read months ago were something like 10 time better results or 100 time better.... I can't recall.
At any rate, thumbs up on your choice at Alien Trust. I designed a fast profit plan because of them.
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nicuz
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# Posted: 1 Dec 2006 18:02
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I am waiting for Agloco to release thier toolbar. Agloco was made by the guys from AllAdvantage and I am willing to give them a shot.
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ValcaInvestcom
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2007 18:18
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Yeah, right now I'm promoting Agloco and ManicAds. Personally, i don't understand why Agloco is taking so long to come out with their toolbar.
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