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didaventures
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2009 18:46
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I tried the affiliate thing years ago and failed. I want to set aside about 2 hours a night to do this. My goal is only $100 a day.
After reading I was going to join MOIS or another similar program. I've been researching for the last week which program to choose. I can't spend a lot at first.
I'm wondering if everyone is just lying about making the money they make because I see posts all over the place about members saying they make all this money and then other posts by them saying they never made a dime.
I think there is too much BS going around. Can you people prove to me and others what you make and that you make money?
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chicagostyles
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2009 19:00
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i make a lot of money where im affiliated at, which is not bad at all
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didaventures
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2009 19:25
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Thanks for the reply, but I see replies like this all the time with nothing to back it up.
What's your average daily income? Can you prove it too?
Please don't take offense, just checking things out.
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joanpeterson
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2009 19:37
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Someone showing you 'proof' of what they earn is meaningless. Even if what they showed you was true - what will change for you?
I don't show people what I make online - I don't feel the need to do so. And I really think that you must believe in internet marketing without the need to see proof from somebody on this forum.
It is just a simple fact that people make money online. If you were to look at all the people marketing online that make money, it would probably show that it is the minority of internet marketers that make money.
But making money online can be done...by anyone....if they learn the proper techniques and strategies.
Someone showing you 'proof' of earnings won't do much to help you.
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mountainmom5
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2009 19:44
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You know, didadventures, we could all line up and tell you exactly what we make but it would not help you at all.
It won't help you decide which program to choose as we all use various ones... and if you don't make any money after a few days of using one, you will only accuse us of lying.
I use a variety of methods to make money and I make money most days, although some days it is only a few dollars with adsense....but I do not feel compelled to print it all out for you.
didaventures: I'm wondering if everyone is just lying about making the money they make because I see posts all over the place about members saying they make all this money and then other posts by them saying they never made a dime.
Could you please clarify?
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peterj07
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 02:54
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Hey didaventures,
I too am very new to the world of online money making.
When it comes to the amount of BS out there, it may seem like there is alot to sort through. Although I am a massive sceptic when it comes to most things that promise to make money for nothing, all the research I have done on this subject points to great possibilities if you are willing to put the work in!
I prefer to believe that the people in this forum have no reason to lie about how much they make and will be a great source of information for all of us in the future.
I am currently working through MOIS so if you like I will be more than happy to keep you informed as my internet business hopefully grows!
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 05:23
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didaventures: Can you people prove to me and others what you make and that you make money?
What for?
1. It's really a private matter. It's none of your business!
2. The question shows poor taste. It makes you appear crude and boorish.
3. The answers will not provide you any material benefit. The responses will not magically put money in your pocket.
However, I do understand your motive for asking.
You recognize there are legitimate opportunities to make money online, as well as scams that take your money, and you are reaching out for support, encouragement and guidance.
Most of all you are looking for some assurance that it's possible for YOU to be successful online. Everyone passes that way.
The truth is, no one can discover that for you. Another person's success or failure is NOT yours. You must create your own, and there is only one way to do that... just do it!
You've got to be committed and realistic. Expect ups and downs, gains and losses, moments of frustration and celebration. But if you stick with it, there'll come a time when the "fog" rolls away to reveal a clear day, and you'll be able to see forever. 
You can do it!
Hermas
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robinincarolina
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 09:57
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Hermas said it correctly, the fog will roll away and you will be able to see forever!!! Love that song by the way.
Yes you can make money but not overnight, its a learning process and it takes discipline and desire. You never stop learning.
Once you find something that works, you just keep doing it.
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didaventures
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 12:06
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I understand that it's private and I know by getting show other peoples income from this is not going to help me. It just seems like everyone is hiding something. Even after you buy a system there seems to be things missing.
I do plan to give this another go but unsure of what system to try. There's lots of junk and lots of good stuff.
Also I see posted where members say they are making all this money when replying to newbie questions and then when I read through their posts only a few days before they say nothing is working for them, then all of a sudden they are making $400 a day so there's tons of BS..
What's a good program you guys can point me to? That you have tried and works for a marketing newbie with lots of computer experience?
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robinincarolina
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 12:46
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Click on some of the signature links here. Keep reading here, you will figure out who is legit and who is not. I actually watch the names that are replying to posts and always check those out first that I have learned to respect and trust here.
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johnben1444
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 14:59
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Listen bubby, i thought the same 5 months ago. The truth is making money online require skills that you can not acquire in one day.
Thou there are alot of things that can hinder freshers from making money online. Like wasting time on things that do not work.
There are a lot of hypes online, accepted. But the gospel truth still remains - MONEY are been made even while you sleep.
Get your priorities right.
Get a website featuring multiple product/services.
And then optimize your site and start building backlinks using numerous articles directories, blogs, get involve with forum where you can learn how to effectively build your site.
In the nutshell it doesnt begin in one day. It starts with a step.
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A8ch
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 15:00
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didaventures: It just seems like everyone is hiding something. Even after you buy a system there seems to be things missing.
To some extent that is true, especially from the newbie's point of view.
Here are some reasons:
- the system may assume a level of familiarity with certain concepts that the reader lacks
- no one ebook, report, video or systen will contain all there is to know about a subject
- some readers are expecting a magic bullet and are disappointed when they don't find it
- at other times, the reader misses the message because it seems too simplistic
didaventures: What's a good program you guys can point me to? That you have tried and works for a marketing newbie with lots of computer experience?
Try this: http://www.thirtydaychallenge.com/
It teaches you how to make your first $1 online without spending a dime. It's an excellent place to learn the what, why and how of online marketing basics. It provides a solid platform on which you can build.
Hermas
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didaventures
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 17:24
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I will check out the 30daychallenge first. Thanks for the advice.
I can't read the last three replies though.
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tandre
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2009 19:02
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Hello,
I too am working through MOIS. What do you think of it and how far are you? Are you making some money?
I would like to stay in touch and compare notes. I am really wanting this to work and need to catch up ground on my finances. I switched careers midlife and took a beating and really need to restore income and savings
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FreeCashMan
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2009 01:40
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"Figures don't lie, but a lot of liars figure"
You have to see an opportunity for what you think you can achieve with it. The money someone else makes will never go in your pocket.
Learn how to analyze an opportunity to see if it fits what you are about and are able to do to market that business to achieve success.
Yeah don't we all want to make $100 (or more a day online) but we all don't want to put in the work. There's nothing that say if you put in 2 hours a day for X amount of days or months you get rich or what you think the reward should be. Online marketing is a learning curve and often time consuming in order to achieve success. It's there for the taken, success that is, but too often many quit before they get good traction. Plus if it was "that" easy everyone would be doing it.
Affiliate marketing is no walk in the park, it's a game of trial and error, and mass marketing.
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krazyladyplz
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2009 12:08
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I understand wanting to know if our online marketing efforts are successful or BS as you put it. But showing you screen shots are not going to help you. People can fake screen shots or didn't you know that.
The best thing to do is ask about an opportunity you're interested in and find out what people have to say about it. Like here for instance, there are alot of people here who will give you honest feedback. I've been here since Aug 30, mostly I like to view the posts and see what others are doing. I've gotten alot of good information. I felt much better about signing up for MOIS after I read so many good posts about it.
If the opportunity you're interested in has a forum, go visit it. Look at what the members are saying about it, and see how complaints or problems are handled. Do your research and make your own decisions.
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Nowistheday
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# Posted: 27 Sep 2009 14:07
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You have received some very valuable information.
Only other suggestion I would have it to read this forum and read and read.
There is a wealth of information free for the taking....you just have to be receptive to it.
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mirab
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2009 23:04
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I'll tell you who's making money. All the people who's ebooks and systems and products etc.. that I have purchased from
online. Which is a lot. They all made money.
Now it's my turn..
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jayorban
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2009 00:13
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i do pretty well affiliate marketing. I also have a website that teaches free tips for newbies.
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2009 19:41
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When people pose the prove to me you make money thing it's usually because they have been scammed somewhere along the line and also it's what goes on in a lot of forums. I think they don't know any better and will learn in time to just work and not worry about what anybody else is doing. My 3 cents on the matter.
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dula14
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2009 13:45
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There is no one magic formula for making money online for everyone. Just like a 9-5 you go to everyday, online marketing requires time, effort, and commitment.
Giving an opportunity the "old college try" for a couple months simply will not do. It can take months or even years to make serious money online.
If you're new to it, think of it in the same way you think of your 401k or any other investment. A long term strategy is the best approach. The seeds you plant now will result in a great harvest somewhere down the road!
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2009 21:21 · Edited by: pbwsfi
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Dave,
I just hit the first year anniversary of my Internet marketing career and I will tell you that I've spent nearly $12 for every $1 made so far. Where did that money go? Developing a website, advertising (free and paid), membership fees, and getting some coaching to help accelerate my learning curve. These are the steps I took believing in a long-term approach to making money online. If you find a product or program that you are comfortable with, enter it with reasonable goals and a long-term goal and I bet you find the success you are seeking.
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Andy3568
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2009 10:56
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I don't have anything to hide. I am an affiliate marketing newbie, and I have not earned anything from it yet. I could show you the proof (Clickbank screen capture), but you're probably tired of looking at all those zeros anyway.
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BigMoneyJoe
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2009 02:25
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didaventures: I tried the affiliate thing years ago and failed. I want to set aside about 2 hours a night to do this. My goal is only $100 a day. After reading I was going to join MOIS or another similar program. I've been researching for the last week which program to choose. I can't spend a lot at first. I'm wondering if everyone is just lying about making the money they make because I see posts all over the place about members saying they make all this money and then other posts by them saying they never made a dime. I think there is too much BS going around. Can you people prove to me and others what you make and that you make money?
You're concern for what everyone else is doing will soon be your downfall.
If you read enough success stories you will have to be juedge on
if they're real or not. Jhn Reese's is the ultimate story to model,
and that's real and verified, that' should be proof enough...so why are you wasting your time trolling forums looking for more proof?
There's nothing wrong with doing your research before hand to get
an idea on what works. But that's all it is, an idea, until you grab
your your happy sack and take action on your research.
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kb71497
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2009 07:40
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What good advice! I have been searching for 3 years. There are scams, but I believe you can earn money on the internet. You have to crawl before you walk....The idea of a get rich quick scheme is rare and may not exist! Stay determined and disciplined. You have what it takes. Just do it!
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HowardVanover
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2009 11:13
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Lots of good advice here. My experience has been similar to some of these. I was involved with all kinds of work from home business for over 5 years, Wasted several thousands of dollars, had accumulated a lot of stuff. I had given up until I got a call from a contact wanting me to try her program, I was skeptical at first because of my past experiences, but I went ahead and checked it out, glad I did.
There are thousands of scams out there ( could write a book on this) You can make money working from home, but you got to be careful what you choose. Good Luck
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2009 12:12
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Hi didaventures,
I can understand your concern about scams. Everyone shares the same wariness.
But understand that you can avoid any programs that don't offer a money-back guarantee. That way there's nothing to fear but fear itself. You can always get a refund.
My advice on this is to spend a few months reading from this forum and from online marketing blogs.
Then do as Hermas suggested and take the free 30 Day Challenge. You can also take the free Bum Marketing course if you like.
By the time you finish all of that, you'll have everything you need to put your theory to the test by trying out your ideas on some free sites such as Squidoo or Blogger.
Once you understand how things actually work in practice, you will have heard the names of the most popular programs and can figure out which ones to invest in. I suggest three or so premium products at that point.
Above all, learn the basics and learn how to provide value to your readership.
Hermas is right, no single program covers all the bases. You have to read from several sources to get enough to start and to keep it going.
Take your time. Don't focus on income.
Testimonials and income claims won't help you. Just master the material and learn to implement it. Monitoring and tweaking is also very important.
Enjoy the process!
Good luck,
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2009 22:18
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As you can see by these replies, there is ALOT of good information past on. If you check other topics you will also get quality information to help promote your website. My advice to you in choosing a product or service is, choose something that YOU believe in and can relate to. Something you, yourself would purchase or use. Also, if you can find an audience and find out what it is they are interested in, you just built loyal repeat customers. And no, you won't always get 100% of the required information in 1 place. It's part of walking your own path. Hope this helps. God bless all of us. Good luck on all your ventures
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Offer Tsuriel
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2009 15:28
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All replies here can give you some piece of advice. You can use them all, you can ignore them and you can focus on things you really like to do, this is all what Working from Home about: "Doing what you like to do, what you are best in" if you can make money from it, then you are a king.
I personally take online paid surveys and run a blog on how to do it the right way. I squeeze the survey companies for about $500 each month.
Check it out!
By the way:
MOIS = Iranian Inteligence Agency [according to google search results] (Be Aware!).
GOOD LUCK!
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2009 17:25
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Offer Tsuriel: By the way: MOIS = Iranian Inteligence Agency [according to google search results] (Be Aware!).
?? Can anyone confirm that?
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