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Casper
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 02:26
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Hey everyone we have heard heaps about Multi-Level Marketing & how hard it can be to make a decent income but are there any Network Marketing business opportunities out there?.
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mountainmom5
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:42
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Difference??
Um... network marketing and getting paid on multi levels of networking, is really one and the same... just different wording.
Ya gotta network to make a decent income in mlm.
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alexa
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:43
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Do you mean Network Marketing companies that aren't MLM?
There are some, certainly, but not very many.
The ones that spring to mind, neither of which I'd want to join myself, are LLI (that's Network Marketing but it's not MLM and doesn't pretend to be), and Coastal Vacations (also not MLM, and a lot of people have left it, recently).
Of course, there aren't any MLM companies that aren't Network Marketing, because MLM companies are by definition (legal and practical), a sub-division of NM companies.
Apologies if I misunderstood your post and needn't have said all the above, Casper!
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:47 · Edited by: alexa
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mountainmom5: network marketing and getting paid on multi levels of networking, is really one and the same... just different wording.
No, this is entirely wrong, Viola.
They're different in law (in every country) and different in reality, too.
MLM companies have to be registered and licensed as MLM companies in the countries (and/or states) in which they trade. They divide commission payments on sales of their products or services between multiple levels, hence the name.
There are other, non-MLM network marketing companies, too. They're a different entity. In law and in practice. An example is Liberty League, in which sales of various products are made by and through networks of distributors which are built and supported in exactly the same way as they are in MLM companies, but commissions on sales are not divided between multiple levels.
Don't assume that because LLI has it's "2-Up" comp plan that that means it's not a network marketing company: that would be quite wrong!
People who don't understand the legal and registration differences between the two tend to use the terms MLM and NM as if they were interchangeable, but they're completely wrong to do so, as any lawyer who knows this subject, or of course any regulatory agency will confirm.
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:56
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alexa: Don't assume that because LLI has it's "2-Up" comp plan that that means it's not a network marketing company: that would be quite wrong!
Thanks Alexa for adding that - my thought frame was in a different direction and you are absolutely correct. Another example of that is Coastal Vacations. They are not mlm, either, but considered network marketing.
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Jora
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# Posted: 17 Oct 2008 12:31
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I have tried this so called Network Marketing and it's based on the pyramid, which is illegal.
The difference between a pyramid or a MLM or NETWORK MARKETING is very simple.
If you have a product then it is not a pyramid and it's legal, but with many of the networks the product is there to make it legal and all concept is a pyramid business.
I will not get into any of those business any more lost more then 6000$.
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alexa
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2008 09:36
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Jora: The difference between a pyramid or a MLM or NETWORK MARKETING is very simple. If you have a product then it is not a pyramid and it's legal, but with many of the networks the product is there to make it legal and all concept is a pyramid business.
Strictly speaking, Jora, the difference between an illegal pyramid and legitimate network marketing is actually a little bit more complicated than you're making out, here.
But I do agree with you that the scam opportunities with their phony products (often "digital" products) are really illegal; they're just dressed up to look legal, to appear legitimate, but they're money games really and the true MLM people hate them because they tarnish the reputation and image of the whole industry.
It'a actually pretty easy to tell the difference, though.
All you have to do is look and see if the company has real products that real retail customers are buying at that price and from that source. If all the "product sales" are to distributors only, with no real customers in sight, then run a mile, because you're looking at a pyramid scam.
Courts and regulators do eventually shut down some of these things (like Prosperity Automated System in the past, and Big Ticket To Wealth in the future, surely!), but it can take a few years. Depends how many complaints they get and where and how many other things they're prosecuting and stuff like this.
But the big test, from the outside, is "Are there genuine retail customers ordering and re-ordering". If not, it can easily be a pyramid money game.
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