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matiasmommy
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#21 · Posted: 18 Mar 2007 23:09
No, I wasn't trying to call anyone unintellegent. I too have had people sign up without ever speaking with me. So Im' sorry that was poor use of language. I have been very busy and not sleeping due to my move.
However, at least from my experience, most people actually want to speak with ME directly before joining. I see that as a very smart and sensible thing to do when one is joining an HBB. I myself was involved with others before the CSG and got badly burned. So, when I was looking around and learning about coastal, I did in fact look at and try out many groups and sytems and interveiw many directors.
On that note.. I get a lot of people calling and asking me about my success. Granted I am happy to share, but I would like to take this opportunity to point out to everyone that your directors success will not necessarily reflect your success. Sure, a successful director who has commitment and passion for their business makes a huge difference. But, I am actually rather reluctant to tell people how much I do make etc etc. This is because I'm afraid to have them think I'm lying and also because I don't want them to think I'm some type of superwoman and they can't do it too! I'm not.. I simply let my system work for me, answer questions when asked and point people to whatever they need. Its simple but NOT easy.. it is work. I truly believe in my heart of hearts that anyone, from any background with any amount of challenges can DO this if they want to and follow the system. My own story proves that- according to many doctors, I am unemployable, and my home province said I was entitled to so called disability "insurance" without a medical exam for the rest of my life. I also have it in the back of my mind that I don't want to put any LIMIT on thier success.
I know that everyone has different goals.. if someone wants to be a millionaire in one year with this business, I see ABSOLUTELY no reason that isn't possible. The system works, the product is great. Thing is that is just not my goal. I'm happy to work 15 or so hours a week and bring in what I do.
That is cool that the call centre does offer you that flexibility. I think the decision I made was the best one for me, but I do have people that prefer to go the other way.
I have the shipping centre drop ship, so I just fill out the persons name and addy on the directors release and send it down. It generally is 7 days from my door to theirs, so it works great, especially considering to goes from Toronto to Kissimmee Florida and then on to wherever.
Its going to be really fun working this week.. all my furniture is moved out as of yesterday.. so my monitor is on the built in bookshelf and I'm sitting on the floor. Tee hee, I feel like a college student or something!
Cheers
Jani
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jlDunn
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#22 · Posted: 19 Mar 2007 18:59
Hi Roger....My first training sale was like that, it was great!! and a really good confidence booster!
I guess we all have systems that work!
Lindsay
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#23 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 08:57
To Harold and others,
I'm about to join Coastal and need to know somethings first please.
-Harold, what choice is up to the Director (your post 148)...to allow or not to allow new member to keep their first two sales from what level?. What if I join at L3 (Premium) what first two sales do I keep, L1 and L2? and my Director gets to keep only my first two sales from L3?
-What's the difference between a preferred member and member in this forum?
-So, am I to understand that in the callcenter I do the marketing (with their help, correct? and must I be the one to do the training to new members? won't the callcenter help in this training as well?
I am in the same situation as the gentelman in Roger's post 161(jan.07) and I know how cumberson it can be to train someone...all those questions, not to mention my lack of experience and knowledge of Coastal System... My hesitation in answering some details could cost me a sale or two...etc., etc.
I appreciate your guidance.
Joe.
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roger
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#24 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 09:37
Hi Joe,
Congratulations on your decision to move forward in your life!
At WCYS if you come in at the Premier Level (Level II) you keep all your Level 1 Sales and pass up your first two Level II sales.
You are correct, if you came in at the Platinum Level (Level III) you keep all your Level II and Level 1 sales while passing up your first two Level III sales.
Because we are all independent business owners there may be some variances in how we run our businesses. Personally I've modified the pay plan so it puts money in my new members pockets that much faster!
The difference in a Preferred Member to a Member in this forum is the amount of questions we've answered/posts we've written, but not always in that order. I think once you've written 120 posts you become a Preferred Member. Vishal, our moderator, would know more about that.
Yes, you are in charge of the marketing with the help of your Director. I think you'll be impressed with our back office Joe, it has hours on hours of training including a "Getting Started 101" so you hit the ground running. We also show you 150 marketing strategies....not to worry Joe you are NOT running this business alone, that's what your Director is for. Out of curiousity, does he/she do Coastal full time?
Your Director will guide you on training your new members. When the time comes where they call you, make sure your Director is there to help. Your Director will be answering your new member questions because they'll be his/hers anyway. You should be on the phone to hear how it's done of course.
I highly recommend you learn about the product first so you can grasp the full value of it and what it does (when you get the pkg, take a trip/book a hotel to solidify your belief!).
I understand your concerns and questions but to re-assure you Joe this is all quite normal. You are about to step outside your comfort zone and it is....well, a little uncomfortable!
Welcome to Coastal!
Roger
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matiasmommy
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#25 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 09:43
Joe
Different directors have the ability to run their business as they wish. Most will offer you the option of either taking your first 2 sales to get your release OR the first 2 sales of the level you came in at to get your release. In the latter option, you will keep the PROFITS from the level 1&2 sales but NOT the team members. (this is because you can't order their packages nor train them without a release.)
With the call centre or any group, you will have help and assistance with your marketing and advertising. All of the groups that I am aware of have resources set up with both online advertising companies and things that guide you to other online and offline marketing venues. Some groups, such as my own also provide tools for the offline and/or retail markets such as brochures, trade show displays and buisness cards. As for training your new members, the groups all have systems and calls in place that help do that for you as well (certainly in mine the first 7 and 30 days combined with the 90 day gameplan fills an most of the details about the product and system). That takes the cumbersome bit out of it- again you have walked through it and done it yourself so helping them do the same is simple and fun! Plus there is group and BOD training calls as well as technical support when needed and system training calls. Again, here you should be able to depend on your director for any additional help and support as needed, as often and whenever needed. That is what we are here for and do the very best. After you experience that first financial success, you will most likely find (as most do that I know of) that the real joy of this business is helping others succeed.
No, I don't believe that your hesitation will loose you any sales for a few reasons. First, before you take your business "live" and begin your marketing you should have extensive and through training that includes roleplay and detailed product and system knowledge (your system resources will usually contain most of the common faq) and your system should have done the telling, explaining and selling for you. Second, when you have someone you are speaking with that is seriously interested (and many serious people will call you first for the same reasons you are on this forum) you simply can't SAY the wrong thing! You can't say the wrong thing to the right person, they have seen your website information through the information tour, most often they are calling to get to know you and learn about your experiences and philosophy. Just be yourself and above all be honest and don't worry! If your director is not already there with you, and you don't know the answer to something just say so and get right back to them with it. There is no shame in that- there are many very experienced directors who every once in a while get asked about something they don't know either- that is the nature of the huge product- its always changing. Nothing wrong with saying "to be honest, I don't know the answer to that question as I haven't been asked it before but let me get back to you with the answer". Heck, we are all human! You won't loose a sale for that, in fact your customer service skills and honesty will most likely impress them!
Also, L3 is also referred to platinum and L2 is called the premium. Just so you know! I realize there is a LOT to know and at first the learning curve is steep. That is what makes this a real business. However, most people are right up to speed in a week or 2 in my experience and ready to go "live"!
Best wishes!
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
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#26 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 11:22
Roger and Jani:
Maybe you two should write a book 
That was a ton of good information, Thank You.
Take Care,
Robert
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matiasmommy
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#27 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 11:30
lol.. Robert! Thanks a lot! Actually, I'm kind of doing that! I have boxes of research and information that I am right now compiling into a website. I'm looking to provide full disclosure to people, sort of like this forum. Its going to be called www.the-truth-about-coastal.com I have been burned by so many opportunities, and so I respect peoples skepticism. I myself was the prospect from HELL due to my past experiences. So, the idea is one stop information shopping and then people get informed to make the best decision for themselves. Sort of, here are the details, facts and numbers sans fluff and hype. More to eliminate rumours and bad press then anything. I'm sure it will cause more then a few ripples, but i'm out to get people accurate, detailed and comprehensive information up front!
Cheers all!
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
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roger
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#28 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 11:55
I couldn't write a book with Jani, there would be no room for me to write in hehe 
just kiddn' Jani!
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matiasmommy
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#29 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 12:49
You may be right though Roger! I've got the gift of the gab.. drove my parents BONKERS! I read a lot too, so it puts all kinds of things in my head!
We could try and do something together though, if ur interested?
Cheers
Jani
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roger
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#30 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 13:05
I'm looking at creating something for Coastal members specifically and I know I will deliver it to the market in the near future, the only reason I haven't yet is something must happen before I can do it! But it's close to happening, I feel....I know, it sounds ominous.
It's something I'm pretty focused on so I don't want to sway too far away from it but I am interested in what you're saying.
Roger
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#31 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 15:05
Quoting: matiasmommy We could try and do something together though, if ur interested?
Jani,
Did you have anything in particular in mind?
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hsimpsonjr
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#32 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 15:13
Sorry for taking so long to answer but Roger and Jani took care of things for me. I had to take my 6 yr old to the dentist.
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matiasmommy
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#33 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 22:09
Yup, Roger I do!
If you want to call me sometime, I'm up for it! I'm moving "officially" to PQ tomorrow and my telephone is Vonage so while the 'puter is in transit I will be without phone!
But I should be up and running in PQ by tomorrow night, and still local to you in Brampton so give me a ringle if you have some time!
Cheers
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
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#34 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 22:17
I just need to clarify one thing.
Quoting: matiasmommy In the latter option, you will keep the PROFITS from the level 1&2 sales but NOT the team members. (this is because you can't order their packages nor train them without a release.)
I called and talked to Hoyt about this and he cleared it up for me. Through the callcenter you DO get to keep the commission and the member because the call center offers training to them and the call center orders their packages for them. The new member doesn't have to worry about getting the packages for them. That being said, any good director is going to train these new people with you and teach them what to do along with you.
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#35 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 22:26
hmm.. that is very interesting to know. So how does it work exactly on the directors release then? Whomever is your director isn't a released director yet? Kind of odd.. and from what I know seems a bit off the guidelines?
I guess you learn something new everyday!
If its legal with BOD then I would defo consider putting that into my business. Pretty cool!
Thanks Harold!
Jani Teeter
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#36 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 22:58
He did say it was definately within BOD guidelines. He said if anyone wants to talk with him about it to feel free to call the call center and talk to him about it. 800-378-1169 . He's cool about explaining things like that.
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#37 · Posted: 22 Mar 2007 23:05
Right on, thanks Harold!
Cheers
Jani Teeter
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#38 · Posted: 23 Mar 2007 09:12
So basically what you are saying is because the call center does order the packages for the new member and trains the new member you get to just keep the commission from the SALE $1,000 in the case of level one, BUT NOT the 2 training sales??
I don't recall being told this.
Terri
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#39 · Posted: 23 Mar 2007 09:23
Just to be certain I get the correct information I called our 800# to speak with support , thanks for bringing this to my attention as I beleive that accurate information is impt
Don't get me wrong please I am NOT implying that there isn't accurate info posted I am just saying that since this has been brought to my attention I want to set the record straight as I just recently been asked a similar question.
Jani, I must say that you certainly helped me when I was trying to decide about CSG and everything you posted was accurate good job!! Thanks.
Same with Harold, if Harold says something you know it will be BOD guidelines compliant.
Terri
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#40 · Posted: 23 Mar 2007 09:40
Terri,
If you sign up at level 2 you keep the level 1 commissions AND member with sales that they make also. That is what Hoyt explained to me yesterday.
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