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jlDunn Forums Member
Joined: 5 Feb 2007 Posts: 121
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#21 · Posted: 2 May 2007 13:22
This is a great post!
It is nice to see that each have something UNIQUE to offer to the business, and that is what each of us are.....I am fairly new to the business, and am still working my butt off to success, but it is coming!!
I found this post very informative, good to know that everyone has an idea, even if others don't share that opinion....with each of us being in business for ourselves, I guess we all get to decide how we run our business, no matter how the others are doing it!
If it is working for you, then great.....I can see it as a great offer for people, I am just chicken I guess.....
I also believe that people who see this is going to work, whether they have money or not, can work it too.....Not something I have tried with my business, but something I can defintely see both sides too.
I can say that you may not loose anything, but the time you invest in a person...if they quit...and everything to gain if they are successful, so as the saying goes - What have you got to loose?
I guess I am mostly just thinking "out loud"
Hope others are getting as much out of this as I am!
Lindsay
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hsimpsonjr
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 612
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#22 · Posted: 4 May 2007 14:34
I guess the point I wanted to get across was that the Call Center does not do this so says the owner, Hoyt and the BOD does not approve of this and I personally think that it is more detrimental than positive to let someone come in without buying the package unless it's done with something like the call center's Entry Level Program that is a separate travel package that has some REALLY good benefits. This way they do spend at least $795 and get the website and have some motivation to work the business and the new member and the director get benefits for it.
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matiasmommy
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 346
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#23 · Posted: 7 May 2007 12:20
Quoting: hsimpsonjr I personally think that it is more detrimental than positive to let someone come in without buying the package
You are RIGHT, Harold.. with the WRONG person it can be more detrimental then harmful. Then again, I don't get the impression that anyone here is advocating or sugesting letting people get started without some financial investment and a LOT of honest effort and resourcefullness!
I'm a bit passionate about this.. I was really VERY broke before I started my business. Granted, I did my homework and worked very HARD to find a way and DID at day's end come in at platinum. I do see value in owning the package- THAT is the POINT! However, there are people out there that have tried every which way and simply can't manage the full amount up front. If they TRY and DO put themselves into it for real- Like Maria, I will stand behind them. BUT that doesn't mean join my team and not invest whatever you can- and YES that usually does mean reasonable sacrifice for the long term gain.
Cheers
Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG
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ibizniz Forums Member
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 272
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#24 · Posted: 7 May 2007 17:19
Hello Harold
I think I have already said enough about this issue, but if we are to be picky, the BOD also frowns on a person not handing up 2 sales at the level they join at and all the levels below.
Yet the call center with Hoyt will allow you to keep all your Entry and Level I sales if you come in at the Premier Level, and all your entry sales, level I sales and Level II sales if you come in at the Platinum level. I personally like this option given by Hoyt. But if you want to play by the rules Harold, maybe you should demand the 2 sales at each level.
As you can see there is room for maneuvering. Don't take it wrong Harold, I like you, but I just wanted to give you an example where YOU are going against the BOD rules (like all of us using Hoyts we close your sales call center, me included).
 Maria
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hsimpsonjr
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 612
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#25 · Posted: 7 May 2007 22:02
Maria, I have been told by several members that the BOD has approved this method (Keeping all lower level sales and commissions) and it is used by several teams, not just ours. If this is not the case then I apologize but more than 3 or 4 from other teams have said they use the same method and that it is approved by the board.
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