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mountainmom5
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#381 · Posted: 23 Sep 2009 09:13
mjg355: Whilst not wasting a lot of money compared to some, I have now started coming to this forum first and it has already saved me over 150 pounds and got some great feedback from members on things they have tried.
Good - that is what we like to hear!
ZiggyZoo: A scam is defined as: "a scheme for making money out of dishonest means". Is it still a scam if some people ARE making money?
hmmm... I never thought of it that way. Guess I just get too ticked off with them and I would have to say YES, it is still a scam....
There are scammers in jail for making a truckload of money dishonestly.
Hope they don't give them computer priviledges in there... 
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Andy3568
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#382 · Posted: 28 Sep 2009 17:01
moneymaker1008: While it's a good idea to look for this, one shouldn't pay too much attention to it because a good proportion of the scams out there offer a "guarantee." It doesn't really mean much.
I understand and actually agree. One way to protect yourself is to pay via PayPal if they offer it. Then, if you believe you've been scammed, PayPal will generally give you your money back if it's within 45 days. That should be plenty of time to determine whether what you've bought is crap or not.
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johnben1444
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#383 · Posted: 29 Sep 2009 15:10
Recently i posted a lot about how to identify scams on my blog.
Most scam usually start with offers that look too good to be true.
The truth is there is nothing like overnight riches, many scams claim to make you rich overnight which is not possible.
You might be familiar with this one " My uncle just pass away and left me with a lot of ......"
Real opportunity still abound online and offline.
Do your research. For online opportunity you can find out if the site belong to BBB.
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pieinthesky
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#384 · Posted: 2 Oct 2009 23:34
Roxanna Revival: Of course people new to internet marketing expect to "win the internet lotto" and expect instant results because they are told by scammers that if they follow the scammers "easy to use, step-by-step, fool-proof, 100% guaranteed, money-making system" then they will see results instantly.
Well, that's the first clue that you're likely not going to make any money, isn't it. The typical Get Rich Quick come on is usually a scam. Earning money is not that easy. Any serious online or work at home business takes time and energy. There's really no way to instantly be successful. Unless... you're scamming others into believing that there is!
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#385 · Posted: 7 Oct 2009 22:00
Antonios,
I'm really sorry to hear about your experiences. I, too was victimized by Graham Frame. My family invested almost $18,000 in his Cash4Sure program after being promised a certain level of return. Of course nothing ever happened, return-wise.
Mr. Frame gravitated from California to Utah, and then left the country and is presently in Italy. He promises to make good on our and other folks' investment but I feel it will be a long wait.
I wish there were a rating system for services such as hosts, emailers, advertisers and so forth. But since there really isn't, watch to see what most other people are using. You see GoDaddy all the time, and when you opt into autorespond messages you usually see AWeber. I use both and both are reputable.
Let me know how you are doing and if I can be of help to you, please ask.
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#386 · Posted: 14 Oct 2009 02:05
ScottWhaley: can assure you it is not that high. In fact, I bet its quite the opposite. 90% legitimate, and 10% scam. The problem is that people have no idea what they are doing. They buy a business and expect it to make them 1000's of dollars after putting $100 into google adwords, or writing their first couple of articles. Many of these business will tell you exactly how to set up a google adwords account, but they will probably leave out how important it is to research appropriate keywords, and the importance of having those keywords in your ads. Some businesses will probably give you some great articles to submit to different article directories, but most wont tell you that google frowns on duplicate content, and that thousands of other people have already submitted the same article. Eventually people realize that the exceptional business they thought they had is not working and they fail. Then they shoot straight over to RippOff Report and yell SCAM! The only advice I can give is just to educate yourself. Buy a book instead of a business.
I would definite agree with your statement. I have been fortunate and only been in a few "scams" and most legitimate opportunties. The scams I was involved in was more of my fault for falling for the "get rich quick" pyramids that are out there. I do believe that a person needs to assess what types or products or services they feel passionate about and then promote/market those.
For instance, I was an avid user of nutritional supplements. I feel/felt that some companies offered some great products. The problem was when a MLM company wraps itself around this product and you give in to the over night wealth mentality. It simply doesn't work that way. The benefit to failing so many times in a business is that you learn more and more about business itself which is an invaluable lesson. Learning about business, trade and commerce is more important than getting rich because you can take that skill anywhere and implement what you have learned in any business and sel/market any product of your choice.
In the end, I decided to start my own business offering products and services that I am passionate about. Such as IT Consulting. I am a computer geek and love the industry. I have learned that online marketing systems need to have certain tools in place such as websites, email, autoresponders, web analytics (to know who your customers are) and not to mention knowing someone who knows a bit about computers, the internet and business is gold.
I have even compiled an e-book which outlines what a person needs who is looking to either work at home, start a home business or grow their current small business on and off the internet. I feel there is more of a need to help people than there is to just sell products or services.
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#387 · Posted: 18 Oct 2009 21:15
You sure know what your talking about. I agree with you there is a lot of information that's worth paying for. If you are looking for a job then you should not have to pay. If you are trying to learn the skills necessary for success on the linternet, you may want to buy a good program to show you the ropes. You can probably find out this info for free if you search long and hard, but it's worth the money to have it all laid out for you.
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Jean LA
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#388 · Posted: 20 Oct 2009 08:09
photomom04: If there are ANY fees such as a one time membership fee, a fee for "training materials" etc., it is probably a scam.
It probably is. You should not pay any upfront money for you to get projects.
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#389 · Posted: 5 Nov 2009 05:32
I have come across so many working websites with the words 'noscam' in their URL. Any website that feels the need to explicitly state it isn't a scam, surely cannot be trusted 100% lol!
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#390 · Posted: 5 Nov 2009 07:27
emmaathome: I have come across so many working websites with the words 'noscam' in their URL. Any website that feels the need to explicitly state it isn't a scam, surely cannot be trusted 100% lol!
I agree! Why would anyone make the claim that their site is not a scam? It kind of goes into the same category as when someone says, "trust me." To me, that typically means that person cannot or should not be trusted. We had a person come into our place of business not too long ago and said those very words. Needless to say, we our still trying to collect the money he owes.
Watch out for the smooth talkers and that includes web sites. Do you due-diligence and check out the person(s)/principle(s) before accepting their word as the truth.
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#391 · Posted: 12 Nov 2009 13:29
U guys just have to be careful at the end of the day it's the internet there are a lot of spammers and scammers out here who are just out here to take your hard earned money! Watch the website you go to and please always be careful where you enter your payment info at that's how they get you! Trust me it has happen to me before! As for the spammers I mean what can you do? Just take them down one at a time. Other then that i' m just here to lend a helping hand! Anyone need any help with anything feel free to hit me on here or email me at livethewayyouwant@gmail.com.
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#392 · Posted: 12 Nov 2009 14:15 · Edited by: jeffreysloe
KarlFabian: The easiest way to suspect a fraud is when they tell you exactly what you have been wanting to hear and hoping for. Just don't allow your self to believe it. Research all aspects for truth. Take your time, ask questions and do not allow your desperation to rule your actions.
Karl, you are so right...this just happened to a group of my Internet friends. A big "hitter" told them what they wanted to hear, and many bit - hook, line and sinker. The good news is our group leader sniffed out the "rat" before it went too far.
One thing we all learned...if you can't find them on Google...they are probably a scammer. So, before getting involved with anyone or any company, search Google. Chances are, you will find the truth, providing the information is coming from a legitimate site.
Jeff
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#393 · Posted: 16 Nov 2009 19:25
I think IDing a scam is getting harder and harder these days. If only they can invent scam goggles...that would help so much.
Joel
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#394 · Posted: 16 Nov 2009 20:04
Hey there Joel,
yes that would be quite nice lol. there are so many scams out there today but you gotta keep your eyes open there are a few that arent scams lol. well i guess haha
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#395 · Posted: 16 Nov 2009 23:53
Make sure you always read the policies and procedures.
This is important and a step many don't do.
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#396 · Posted: 23 Nov 2009 14:33
What is the best way to drive traffic to your website? I use articles and Squidoo lenses and have a free blog setup. I just tried a ping service but am getting minimal trafffic.
I am using the service that is recommended through MOIS.
What are the successful people doing?
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#397 · Posted: 23 Nov 2009 14:40
Hello,
I am a newbie and have been plugging along with a sad lack of success. IS the My Online Income System or MOIS a good system for beginers?
I still believe it is but am looking for input
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#398 · Posted: 28 Nov 2009 13:30
I got a couple of those same letters, but tried contacting at least one of the people on the list. After locating one of them that had tried it, the reply I got was "less than I expected". That told all, right there and after reading your message, I now know for sure! Thanks.
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#399 · Posted: 3 Dec 2009 19:41
The easiest way and the most effective way to identify internet and other scams is to simply google it.
It doesn't take long for scams to make their way online.
If you are a bit unsure of an opportunity, try this first.
On the other hand, dont confuse scams with quitters.
There are a lot of people out there who get involved with an opportunity, get excited, think they're going to be rich tomorrow and then when they are not, they write about it online saying they never made any money and the business is a scam. About 90% of negative posts you will find about any given legitimate business will be from disgruntled QUITTERS!
I always say that MLM is a 5-10 year plan.
Hope this has helped.
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#400 · Posted: 4 Dec 2009 23:30
I think the best way to identify a scam site is to search with keywords in Google and after that one can see tons of forum answers about whether a site is a scam site or not.
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