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#21 · Posted: 24 Jan 2010 14:10 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
Interesting, Exciting and very profitable. The group I'm with had over 750 people join inside of two weeks. People have been gravitating to this like nothing else because of the simplicity and truly no selling.
I was told that the company has the attorneys of the king of network marketing, Amway, on board making sure all is legit and to provide for longevity.
Anytime you have an "anyone can do this" opportunity combined with a uniqueness to the industry, you have a receipt for massive success for the company and its associates.
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#22 · Posted: 25 Jan 2010 11:39
Live Q and A went well and covered a lot of questions people had/have about the business.
People are extremely excited about this business, in particular newbies. It's offering them a chance to succeed in the most powerful home business system out there...network marketing like never before.
I'm telling all you just average networkers out there, that there is a serious fortune to be made with this opportunity NOW strictly because of timing. In 10 days, I've earned over $350 and am at $200 and growing in monthly residual.
Get in on this and change your financial future.
Watch the video presentation, listen to the CEO interview and come on board. Earmark an hour of your time to take a very serious look at this opportunity.
I'm available to answer any and all questions.
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#23 · Posted: 26 Jan 2010 14:36
Wow we've got 70 year-olds recruiting like crazy. Love the simplicity and never gave up on looking for a way to make some extra income.
Let the Good Times Roll!
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#24 · Posted: 26 Jan 2010 21:16
Hi Newbie here.
OK I am Reading & reading... Can you only put in 10 plates per month or is it unlimited?
I am confused.
I could see 1,000's of plates a day.
What happens if you inadvertently put in the same plate in a different location in the same day? Or the next day?
I thank you
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#25 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 00:54
The minimum and maximum plates per person is 10, this keeps the integrity of the data. Otherwise people would go to a parking lot and just right down every car.
Duplicate plates are allowed, but their are restrictions as to how it's done.
You can put in more than 10 plates, but you are only going to get credit for 10, so if something happens inadvertently it can be resolved by just putting in another plate.
I hope you take a good look and seize this opportunity. Timing is optimal here and now, not that later wouldn't be good, but there's so much huge potential here and now.
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#26 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 10:49
If i didn't notice that this is a WORK AT HOME FORUM not a drive around getting license plates. I would not do it. Sorry bro
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#27 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 11:30
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FreeCashMan: Bro, there's no ad hype drama here. This business is exactly as stated. It''s changing the network marketing industry.
FreeCashMan: You literally only need to get 10 random license plates and month. No more, no less
This is an example of what I mean.
You definitely need to do more than that in order to pocket the earnings with this plan.
You are basically posting ad copy here:
FreeCashMan: Take a good look at this business if you want a Super Simple Way to make money from home and build great monthly residual income.
There's no reason you can't give a full overview of the biz.
How much it costs.
What ALL the work involved is.
What the business actually IS.
That would only take a few sentences, v. the MANY words of enticement you have posted here.
greenion: That cashforplates business promotion, lacks any detail here, so because I am strongly interested, should I just take the guys word for it? Or waste my time and money on another pre-launch company that most people here know nothing about?
I wouldn't advocate wasting time and money on anything!
Just be sure you know what you are getting into.
And yes, I agree the details are missing.
For one thing, there is more to it than just writing down license plates!
And the statement that you only have to recruit 3 people is also less than the 'full story'.
As for earnings, you'll have to become a manager in order to actually pocket any cash, which requires having a total of 12 members in your 'team'.
That can be gotten in 3 referrals ONLY if each of those 3 members ALSO recruits 3.
Or any one or more of the recruits can make up for the slack of others.
A team of 12 is needed.
Only then will you get paid - regardless of how much you have 'earned'.
Certainly they explain all this, and it cost me an hour phone/webinar in order to understand the 'simple' pay compensation plan.
But that really shouldn't be necessary here in the forum, where we are supposed to be giving each other the real deal, the straight ahead.
Instead, like I mentioned, the purpose of the posts have been to get us to hear the ad sell.
Not much substance.
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#28 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 11:33
LOL. Sorry to hear that Mad Hatter.
I've been working at home for the past 7 years, since closing up my real estate office. But I don't stay in the house like a hermit, and more than most don't.
The beauty of this biz, is that as you go to the bank, store, mall, gas, library, you get your license plate data of only 10 a month without interrupting your other daily activities.
So working at home with this biz is the easiest every. I don't attend opt meetings, even though some people are having them. I do all my stuff online and on the phone and I train and support others in doing the same if they want to.
But I will say this is one business that I believe in so much that I'm looking at what marketing techniques and things I want to do outside of the home (but no opportunity meetings).
But I realize all aren't going to SEE IT and SEIZE IT!
Those that do will be greatly rewarded.
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#29 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 13:12 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
TJamMoneyMan, not sure what you beef is, or if you just don't like the biz, but sufficient details have been given about this opportunity, notwithstanding what you continue to add, in the light you see the biz in. All the nuances of the comp-plan, imo, are not necessary, for this platform, and I've never seen such in general on a forum. That is why the companies have videos, pdfs, and specific web pages going into the intricate details. People can find it at the company's main site for the most part. www.narcthatcar.com.
My enthusiasm may be taken by some as a bit of ad copy but its not that at all, and certainly not more than what you've expressed in your related businesses in your signature on their thread or others. I've watch many starve for a legitimate opportunity to excel in a network marketing business fail, and I excited at what this offers just based on sheer timing. My comments are nothing more than what can be found throughout this forum on various other opportunities. It is just that many have not heard of this biz yet so thus far I've been the primarily advocate.
You are not correct on your statement that people need 12 people to get paid any money. That is a false statement, and exactly why people need to get details from someone that is in the business and be able to speak to someone who knows.
As was stated, you get a "fast start" bonus of $50 for submitting your first 10 plates. You get $25 fast start for 3 referrals that submit 10 plates.
Yes, as the comp-plan stands now (enhancements coming) your monthly residual is held in "escrow" until you get to manager (3 personal referrals and 12 in your group), but a person is NOT losing in residual while getting to the next rank.
If one is looking for the PERFECT comp-plan for a business, there isn't one. But if one is looking for an opportunity in networking to seizing timing and uniqueness that will revolutionize the mlm industry then that is what we have here that no other opportunity can offer, that I've seen.
So rather you introduce 3 who get 3, in 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, it does not change the enormous opportunity and potential cash flow that this business offers an individual looking for a very viable work a home business, that hasn't even gone international yet.
As to there being more to it than just getting plates. No as to the "product" end. There isn't more and there is no selling and that is why people are gravitating to this business unlike anything I've ever seen.
I don't apologize for it being network marketing, and that has been stated from the beginning. So if your thoughts of there is more to it than getting plates is related to the fact that you network and build a business to generate substantial residual income, I don't get it, because there has never been any indication that this is not network marketing. Wise people love network marketing, imo.
I love network marketing and all that it offers. I love the ideal of residual income from a team. Heck, that is what corporate america does. Hire people as managers, etc. over other people but they don't give them a piece of that work, unless you are in the sales department, and then they lay you off when they need to cut expenses leaving your with no income.
What is the beauty of mlm income, is that you are not left to being dependent on just you (and/or your spouse) for income. You can have 100s-1000s helping you make income. That is better and has made many people extra income to very substantial "make a living" income.
So those that want to try and beat this opportunity down for whatever reason is only the nature of any good opportunity, as everyone want See and Seize it, but those who understand that mlm mega-fortunes are made by people that are able take advantage of time, along with something unique to the industry will not want to miss out.
Yes, this business is awesome bar none, based on 15 years of experience, and I'm shouting it from the mountain top, regardless if one is on my team or joins under someone else. It's not about me, it's about all of us that are here to find a way to REALLY make extra income to full-time income working from home.
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#30 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 14:22
well working from home does not make us hermits, it means you work from home, i got out all the time, movies, lunch and jogging, I just don't think writing people in to a license plates would cost me 125 dolloars.
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#31 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 14:52 · Edited by: slowride66
I Don't see this lasting for a few years.
Bottom line is not to far into the future all cars will have some kind of GPS & Big Brother will be able to punch your ticket no matter what.
To me its a Pyramid, because, if I can not go out & load up unlimited or enuf to make MY SELF some money then its not self sufficient.
If you are a Optimist its a great MLM cutting edge state of the art opportunity.
If you are a Pessimist its a Pyramid Scam.
Yea OK everything is set up in a structure from the Pee Ons to Upper management {Upper being the ones who got in 1st}
My Problem is ,Hey Wal mart can sell as many sticks of bubble gun as the demand wants.
Here I am limited to 10 & to others & then I have to have a web site & how many other things that "I really need to make this work" .
NO I have not seen a MLM that works for the average person like myself.
No, I expect to hear that so & so makes $XXX for XXX amount of time & I can make figures up all day long ,but reality those #'s are not in my Bank account.
When GPS takes over the world then the last ones in will be left holding the bag.
Prove me wrong.
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#32 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 15:01
FreeCashMan
I personally have decided to try this business. Fast Cash Man, I appreciate your prompt e-mail response yesterday. I also sent ya a message and friend request on the social site listed in that e-mail.
After 37 years as an over the road truck driver and having been laid off since last September, I've had lots of time to think about what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. I have known for years that there was an easier way........and I think this opportunity just might be it!
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#33 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 16:38 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: You are not correct on your statement that people need 12 people to get paid any money. That is a false statement, and exactly why people need to get details from someone that is in the business and be able to speak to someone who knows.
As stated.
I got that information from the phone conference/webseminar.
And I repeat.
It will take TWELVE people under you, which promotes you to manager, in order for you to pocket ANY 'earnings'.
FreeCashMan: Yes, as the comp-plan stands now (enhancements coming) your monthly residual is held in "escrow" until you get to manager (3 personal referrals and 12 in your group), but a person is NOT losing in residual while getting to the next rank.
Good Lord man!
That is EGGZACKLY what I said.
You need 12 people in your group in order to get paid!!
You will also need two clients, as I remember.
That is one of the various reasons that spending an additional $25 (total $150 so far) for a website is highly 'reccommended'.
You get one client with the website purchase.
And you will have to get another one on your own - unless there's a buy-in that will solve that issue!
Anyway, all that info comes from folx "in the business" on their phone conference/webinar.
If that's not correct, you can take a break from posting ad copy and post substantive INFORMATION that clarifies things.
I am NOT going to attend another one hour phone conference to better understand what is supposed to be such a 'simple' payout plan.
If everything about this is so simple, then you can again, cease with the ad copy, and post some INFORMATION of substance.
For something so 'simple', that should be no problem at all.
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#34 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 18:18
Okay TJamMoneyMan,
I'm not going to turn this into a back and forth conversation about "nothing" and your take on my post and start personal unwarranted attacks.
I think not only have I made things more than clear for the average person, and clearly pointed out that you get your "fast start" bonus that gets one their money back without the claim you stated of one needing 12 on their team. Can't make it any clearer. You could have certainly misheard things, or in a live call something could have not been made clear, either way I have made it plain.
As well as I have readily made myself available directly to you and others to get any questions cleared up. I have responded to PM messages, and not just from people that elected to go to my website.
We can agree, or at least it appears, you don't See an opportunity for yourself here, and I do. I believe that this is the easiest and simplest networking marketing opportunity that is available because of the no selling of a product and dealing with the particulars of having a product and having to understand all about the product.
I'm not saying that network marketing in terms of business building is simple, as it is still a numbers game because some will, some won't, as some have indicated on this forum. However, I know that if one can eliminate as much as possible as many "emotional" attachments necessary for a product associated with network marketing in order to grow their business, the networker gives themselves less barriers to deal with in order to be successful.
That is what this Narc offers, and it's not dealing with a gray area of gifting, in regards to not have a product to sell and still make money.
Again, I believe that if one really considers timing with uniqueness that they can't find a better business opportunity to get involved in and do whatever they need to do, learn whatever they need to learn, to work the business and grow their team.
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#35 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 18:40 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
TJamMoneyMan: You will also need two clients, as I remember. That is one of the various reasons that spending an additional $25 (total $150 so far) for a website is highly 'reccommended'. You get one client with the website purchase. And you will have to get another one on your own - unless there's a buy-in that will solve that issue!
This is again, is not complete and/or accurate information, however it came about.
Fact is:
-It cost $100 to get started in the business. This pays for your back office, sales aids, downline reports, company training. As far as I understand it's an annual fee.
-Everyone gets a back office but the advance web portal that allows one to automate the input of the plate data, and sign up of referrals is $25 a month.
-The webportal at $25 a month is NOT mandatory, but essential for automation, and is thus recommended and that is why people use the cost of $125 to get started. You can mail in your plate data and forms for referrals if you like.
-If you do obtain and keep the web portal monthly, a member receives credit for 4 plates (narcs) and 2 clients. Therefore you only need to obtain 6 plates a month.
-2 clients will carry you through first rank level -consultant, and 2nd rank level-Manager.
If a person didn't go any further than the manager level in the building of their business, which is the greatest probability I suppose, the person can potentially make very, very substantial income as explained in the presentation, and never have to worry about going out and acquiring a personal client to make additional commissions. (I cannot post numbers of potential payout on those 2 levels alone because I found out after earlier post that we should not be posting info about earning as to the comp-plan real or hypothetical in public arenas, but info is available during private conversations).
So again, I believe, you are making way more to the simplicity of this business in attempt to NOT make it simple but it clearly is simple in comparison to a mass of others, in my view.
Over analyzing is what is often hinders people's success. As the saying goes "think long, think wrong."
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#36 · Posted: 27 Jan 2010 23:46
I began 13 days ago and my residual income is $225 + bonos. My downline when from 1 person to 29 in 12 days.. I had my group conference call tonight and my guess of honer was Josh. What would you do with $75,000 in one month? Oh, he paid just $125. YES he stated that his income so far is $75,000 and the January is not over yet..
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#37 · Posted: 28 Jan 2010 12:47 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
slowride66
This follow up isn't about proving you wrong, but to address some things you raised to make sure other taking a look at this phenomenal opportunity are able to get an appropriate perspective.
First the company has already been around for 2.5 years, so if you are saying that it won't last 2 years we are past that point. If you saying it won't last 2 more years because you believe all cars will have GPS that that will defuse this business there is nothing to support that but no one can necessarily know the future. My Powermall was a successful online business run by quality people and they just went out of business, not to mention all the major corporations, steel industry comes to mine. Technology changes many things, but if, when, and how remains to be seen. Can't see how that should be a barrier to someone getting involved because "tomorrow" may be different.
Claiming it is a "Pyramid to me" does not make it a pyramid. Something is either an illegal pyramid or it is not. This is not so there is nothing to discuss and such statements are without any merit whatsoever and only serve to misguide and misinform people.
As to limitation on car data. I think you have not understood the "product" of this business. No, one person can't just go and sit around and collect the car data until their heart is content. This helps keep the integrity of the database for clients, amongst other things.
However, one can obtain as many clients as they are able, like wal-mart selling bubble gum, and make a percentage of clients use of the data based on their rank level in the company.
So you can "sell product/services" all you like and make money based on your customers usage. They get to sign up for free and only pay based on need.
The other thing that is going on with the business is that the power in the database is in providing live up to date information and that is where the army of independent reps comes in, and that is what is giving all who seize this opportunity a chance to make great residual income without worrying about being in a business and having to focus on the particulars of a product while at the same time trying to build their network.
Many other opportunities say "lead with the product" where as here we can truly lead with the opportunity to earn additional income, because that is why people get involved with these business opportunities in the first place regardless of how great a product a company may have.
So, if you want those dollars, those #'s in your bank account, don't get caught up in viewing this through a negative window. Understand what we have here and come on board.
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#38 · Posted: 28 Jan 2010 15:31
I think this is quite an interesting plan or scheme for earning money from home. I am sure many out there will find this information helpful.
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#39 · Posted: 29 Jan 2010 15:29 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: I'm not going to turn this into a back and forth conversation about "nothing" and your take on my post and start personal unwarranted attacks.
Nothing I have said here has been a personal attack.
Not on you, not on anyone.
If that's incorrect, simply quote what I have posted that was a personal attack.
Mainly, I have correctly pointed out that you are using this thread to get people to join in your biz opp.
Quite blatantly too, I might add!
If you want to take that as a personal attack, that is your own choice.
But you have been shamelessly promoting this here with:
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10 double posts - replying to your own posting so the thread remains high in the WAHF biz-opp list, which is forbidden in many other forums.
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Making it very clear you are here to get people 'on board' with comments like:
FreeCashMan: See the video and seize the moment.
FreeCashMan: See and Seize It, my friends, see and seize it!
FreeCashMan: The excitement is unstoppable.
FreeCashMan: Understand what we have here and come on board.
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More than 12 different enticemnet statements of earnings.
FreeCashMan: My enthusiasm may be taken by some as a bit of ad copy but its not that at all,
Now if your quoted statements above aren't ad copy, what is?
(LOL - 'a bit of ad copy' you say!)
FreeCashMan: and certainly not more than what you've expressed in your related businesses in your signature
LOL!!
I invite you to show me where I have so shamelessly used this forum to promote a biz-opp.
Your promo-posting here is unbelievable!
FreeCashMan: you get your "fast start" bonus that gets one their money back without the claim you stated of one needing 12 on their team.
Again, according to the one hour phone conference I attended, AND your statement in this thread:
Regardless of how much money you 'earn', you get to pocket NOTHING until you have 12 members in your team.
AND, as another example of you posting less than the 'full story', you only get that fast start bonus if you join FAST!
You have to sign/pay up within 8 hours.
(that's why it's not called a 'slow start' bonus!)
8 hours from when?
Not being interested, I didn't make that knowledge a priority.
But now that you are finally responding to requests for information and not ad copy - if only with partial information, then I bet you'll quickly want to 'clarify' that statement of yours.
Now if your link, or the narcthatcar.com website actually had information about this biz, you wouldn't need to answer any questions.
All your websites do is put people on an autoresponder, and invite them to webinars.
I've done my hour in webinar-land for this one thank you!
Plus, your websites seem to be changing content, as I was first able to discern that this cost $125 - as my post showed.
If prices and payment schemes are changing, that's not my fault.
And it's up to those in the know to make basic information available without requiring people to attne one hour webinars in order to find out anything at all about such a 'simple' system.
I don't care if you answer my questions or not.
But my questions are legit, and after spending an hour on the phone trying to understand this 'simple' plan, I have a right to express my opinion on this biz.
And yes, illegal or not, as ALL mlm's are, this too is pyramid structured.
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#40 · Posted: 29 Jan 2010 16:14
Okay TJ, the facts have been presented can't waste anymore time "arguing" with you about it. I'm in the biz, you are not, and you keep essentially posting the same inaccurate and/or incomplete information. Good luck in your ventures.
Btw, the Narcthatcar site does have a very brief presentation there under Opportunity for those interested.
Again, anyone wanting clear and exact info can feel free to PM, or post. You don't have to be an opt-in to my site or anything like that to make sure your understanding is clear to see if you want to seize upon this awesome unique opportunity.
I'm loving the opportunity and doing well, and believe that others can do the same, from newbie to experience.
Enjoy the weekend everyone!
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