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Imake50thousand Forums Member
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#141 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 02:07 · Edited by: Imake50thousand
How often can you go on vacation and is the whole thing paid for or just the resort?
Like, do you pay for the plane ticket.
How does this work?
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moneyinmypocket Forums Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 80
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#142 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 09:07
Hi Imake50K, With a platinum membership, you are entitled to unlimited vacations every year. You could stay on vacation all year if you like, LOL.
The prices in our site are for the room only - not per person, per family/room. From $298/week for "hot weeks", and there are always a huge list of "hot weeks" to choose from.
Our membership does however have discount plane tickets available - searching and booking for the flights are done right within our back office as well. There is significant savings in these as well.
Again, if you're interested, PM me to book a quick Live demo of what we've got!
All the best, Happy Sunday! TerryG
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bizmentor Forums Member
Joined: 6 Oct 2007 Posts: 52
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#143 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 10:44
Another benefit Imake50K- is in the gift weeks. For a minimal upcharge- like $ 100 bucks a week- you can actually extend your membership privileges to others.
Have a family member who you want to do something really special for when they are getting married? How about give them a week at a 5 star resort with all their lodging paid for in unbelievable luxurious accomodations?
Want to have a special family event or a family reunion? Offer your family 1 and 2 BR suites or villas at a 4 or 5 star resort for a huge discount! By the way... comparisons of some of these discounts well over $ 1000 for a week in many instances! Use the membership just a few times- and it is paid for! The membership is fully transferable and willable to your estate, as well!
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jaxman Forums Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 47
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#144 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 17:50
What's the reality of marketing high ticket items? The various biz opps all have the hype and claim it's easy to sell their programs. I am looking at GRN and the reverse funnel system, but have concerns about prospects not being able to afford the initial 3K and the subsequent ad budget and ongoing monthly expenses involved. I'm sold on the product and the pay plan, but worry about how many prospects I'll have to talk to to convert to a customer or biz builder, which translates into tons of ads and a high ad budget??? Any input would be appreciated regarding the marketing of high ticket items, vs. the lower dollar program that most people can afford. Thanks and good luck with all your ventures, both personally and professionally.
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bizmentor Forums Member
Joined: 6 Oct 2007 Posts: 52
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#145 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 18:04 · Edited by: bizmentor
Jaxman- first, welcome to the forum! There are other very valid alternatives to the reverse funnel system that do not require your initial investment of large advertising dollars. For instance, we offer a fully comprehensive Rotator marketing system at no initial cost to them for our team members to help our new members (and experienced ones for that matter) to begin the business without investments of capital. I have had no problem with serious business builders coming up with the $ 2995 given the short return on investment they can achieve.
The Rotator is a multi dimensioned campaign based on both online and offline extensive marketing of both the retail and business opportunity products. This is a HUGE industry- and when you consider the baby boomers # 1 choice of ways to spend their leisure time is to travel- along with the fact that the baby boomers are aging and about to entire retirement- you will see the full extent of the huge market that exists.
I am happy to go into more details if you would like. I can easily say this- there are a ton of ways to drive huge traffic to your website if you have some basic knowledge of the power of internet marketing. I have people from all over the world contacting me- and have several from other countries already on my team that I am helping mentor.
To your success!
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jaxman Forums Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 47
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#146 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 21:33
Chad- I appreciate the input. I guess what I am asking is that there seems to be a price barrier point for most folks for these types of programs. $500-$999 is not too high for most aspiring networkers, but $1500 -$3000 is. Does it take alot more effort and ad dollars to attract and close the higher ticket plans? I'll try and contact you tomorrow to discuss this further. Thanks. JM
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bizmentor Forums Member
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#147 · Posted: 25 Nov 2007 22:21 · Edited by: bizmentor
That has not been my experience, at all jaxman. The savings generated by the severe and real discounts at real 4 and 5 star resorts, combined with the significant compensation plan where one can recover their initial investment very quickly both combine to make it a "non issue" for most. I have had a couple of people need to finance it- and I have found some financing options for those individuals. Some put the membership on their credit card.
I look forward to speaking with you tomorrow. Just give me a call or email me a number where I can call you. My number is 817-925-9999. I can assure you I will simply discuss the facts with you (and anyone else who might have similar questions) with no pressure, whatsoever. I look forward to helping all.
To Your Success!
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luvtravel Forums Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 812
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#148 · Posted: 26 Nov 2007 19:00
Quoting: jaxman I guess what I am asking is that there seems to be a price barrier point for most folks for these types of programs. $500-$999 is not too high for most aspiring networkers, but $1500 -$3000 is. Does it take alot more effort and ad dollars to attract and close the higher ticket plans? I'll try and contact you tomorrow to discuss this further. Thanks. JM
In a word YES!
Top-tier programs, or ANY program requires advertising! That said there are many ways to advertise without spending a fortune, it just takes the RIGHT TOOLS, along with good coops, good splash pages, financing options and knowledge and training. I can say from experience that IF you do not have the right tools to assist you in your marketing efforts you are just plain wasting your money. We are offering all the above PLUS marketing tools to ENHANCE every advertising dollar! (NOT rfs!)
But everyone loves to travel, and GRN offers you options, $1495 Gold option or $2995 Platinum option, given the right marketing tools to enhance your advertising dollars will give you an edge.
We offer financing options, leads coops, and soon an advertisement enhancement tool. We are leaving a popular marketing system because we would rather spend $300 a month more wisely.
Don't get caught up in the latest and "greatest" marketing systems because you see it all over the web, it may or may not work for everyone!! Think of this, you join a biz opp for the product GRN, than suddenlly appears the latest and greatest system and you see it all over the web right??
Wow you forget that you are really buying the product GRN because it gets lost in the HYPE and frenzy of a system, here's were marketing became real interesting, you hear that folks are making unbeleivable amount of sales and with little or no effort and all YOU have to do is feed the system its is a monster and you to will make these unbeleivable amount of sales, I watch marketing trends, and this was one of the most fascinating marketing strategy I have seen.
Here's how it goes, you like the product and you are seeing this beachbum all over the net and than you hear of sales being made out of thin air, so you bite and you buy in, hey if others are making sales like ceazy you want a piece of this action, suddenly its no longer about the $3K or the fact that you are spending $300 a month its all about getting in on the latest and greatest craze.
Okat so now you discover that besides the money permonth you now have to advertise advertise advertise, so what just happened there?
Well you continue to hear about massive sales being made so you increase your advertising , all that is happening is that with thousands of people advertising this "system" because they aren't making the sales they were promised BECAUSE they just are NOT advertising enough so they advertise yet even more and still no sales, so who was really benefitting off your advertising?? The people at the top who started this feeding frenzy. The system is being seen again and again and it becomes the biggest advertising coop ever devised that FEW are benefitting from.
So after a few months of $300 a month and all the advertising which is never enough and after seeing the same ad over and over and over everywhere what does the average person think? Wow that system (rfs) must really work I better get a piece of this realestate on the net after all its seen over and over so why dont I RIDE THE WAVE, and collect the sales like those that came on the calls and said they go on their computers and they see the magic words you have a sale. BUT they are not seeing those magic words as often as they want so again the cycle continues, advertise the system get in on that massive wave that is building into a swell or a tsunami, why? Because tons of people were convinced that they can make the sales if they just keep placing ads and buying leads.
After you buy in and the magic doesnt happen for you, tons are leaving the system as fast as they came in and go back to good old fashion place ads for the PRODUCT, get coops going, help your team members to duplicate your efforts and you and they will benefit, I bought into the latest and greatest but have since returned to sanity and conventional advertising but it wasnt a losing proposition I researched and found some great tools that as I said will enhance the advertising efforts of those I sponsor.
Beleive in yourself and your product FIRST..... NOT a system get the right tools and YOU will succeed!!
I was listening to some good audios and watching training webinars about that very subject of price points and what price point is more palatable for most and yes you are correct about the max price point for MOST being $997 and add options of $397 or such and you have a good mix, but I have found when you get to the top-tier price points of $1500 to $3,000 there is a NICHE for those people but you have to place more targeted ads, of which we assist you to understand.
But good luck in your search, it can be done, have ques send me a pm.
Terri
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jaxman Forums Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 47
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#149 · Posted: 27 Nov 2007 00:04
Terri- Wow, that was a detailed follow-up for your yes answer. You obviously have some strong emotions attached to the experience of dealing with the beach bum's $300/month ad program/system that produced minimal results. I have experienced the reverse funnel system by paying the $50 for more info, which I did in Aug. or Sept. I have researched it fully and still get the auto call reminders about the conference calls, and the auto emails as well. Luckily I haven't taken the plunge to hang out at that beach!!! I'm sure it can work for some folks and I wish them well.
However, since stumbling onto this forum, I have talked to Chad of Team Central, and their system looks very promising. Thanks for your input and informative post.
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grntravelonline Forums Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 4
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#150 · Posted: 27 Nov 2007 00:23
One Comment: I also receive those calls.. How annoying are they? Anybody know how to stop them? Team Central Does Rock!!
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SirThomas Forums Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 60
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#151 · Posted: 27 Nov 2007 01:18
Quoting: jaxman What's the reality of marketing high ticket items? The various biz opps all have the hype and claim it's easy to sell their programs. I am looking at GRN and the reverse funnel system, but have concerns about prospects not being able to afford the initial 3K and the subsequent ad budget and ongoing monthly expenses involved. I'm sold on the product and the pay plan, but worry about how many prospects I'll have to talk to to convert to a customer or biz builder, which translates into tons of ads and a high ad budget??? Any input would be appreciated regarding the marketing of high ticket items, vs. the lower dollar program that most people can afford. Thanks and good luck with all your ventures, both personally and professionally.
Jaxman,
Price ranges matter, so do profits...
You will find many prospects NOT interested in low-ticket bizopps, just like you will find many prospects giving up on hi tics.
Making serious profits is about finding right market for your product rather than relying on most everyone's buying power.
Also, from my 25+ years of marketing experience and millions in sales, selling low price/low profit products never saved me any time or money.
Quite the opposite, actually...
If you like what you see, others will too  Decide where to find people like you and go for it. It's wide open!
To your success
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jaxman Forums Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 47
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#152 · Posted: 27 Nov 2007 11:10
Sir Thomas,
Your points are well taken. Thanks for the input. How's your GRN distributorship doing? How long have you been involved with GRN?
Regards,
Jaxman
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SirThomas Forums Member
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#153 · Posted: 27 Nov 2007 14:52
I bought my membership in April, if I remember OK 
My best results came from working GRN as any other opportunity out there. By networking and directing prospects to my opt-in page and then doing a follow-up.
I feel more comfortable if people know what product they will be promoting. Hence, my focus is on Priceless Possibilities system, which promotes value of the product first.
RFS is cool, if you prefer to make things more automated, but then you must entirely rely on softwares, servers etc. It's NOT always as we would like it to be. You can read about it all over the place...
I will be switching my focus towards "personal contact" approach after prospects "educate" themselves enough to have a congruent conversation. We will have a new system in place shortly, so I'm looking forward to it.
Do what you feel the most comfortable with and take it EZ.
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jaxman Forums Member
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#154 · Posted: 29 Nov 2007 00:00
Thomas- Back to the fundamentals I see. I would agree that the personal touch should be more effiective in the long run. Thanks for the input. More later...
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jaxman Forums Member
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#155 · Posted: 29 Nov 2007 00:38
grntravelonline writes - "One Comment: I also receive those calls.. How annoying are they? Anybody know how to stop them? Team Central Does Rock!! "
The RFS emails that are sent have a " please remove form list" notice at the bottom of the email. I removed my name from the emails, maybe that will also stop the automated calls that come in. I spoke with Phillip of Team Central today who lives in Hawaii, and he was getting those goofy calls at 3 am!!! ARGHH!!!
From what I have seen so far, Team Central does rock. It looks like I'll be joining soon, after I complete my due diligence. The leaders have done their homework. For anyone just joining the forum, their system is based on multiple business pillars (which I haven't found anywhere else), and here are just a few of them:
Team Support Second to None With Full Back Office Resources Top-Notch Training and Mentoring 30-Day Fast Start Program Personalized Web Sites and Auto-Responders Free Advertising to Promote Your Business
So if you need more info on Team Central just send a private email to Chad, Terry, Bryan, Phillip or anyone else on Team Central. And of course you can contact me if you need to know about the due diligence I have done on Team Central, The Reverse Funnel System and some other teams in GRN.
Take care. More later....
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moneyinmypocket Forums Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 80
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#156 · Posted: 30 Nov 2007 10:00
Hi JM, Thanks for the information, I'm sure it will be helpful for a LOT of people!! 
I must say that Jaxman (JM) has done a TON of DD regarding GRN and the Teams available to help him out. He has gone above and beyond what most people go through, so if you're not sure exactly WHAT to look for or what to ask - contact him! He is a DD master!
Welcome to the Team!
TerryG
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jaxman Forums Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 47
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#157 · Posted: 30 Nov 2007 23:54
Greetings Mister Terry,
Thanks for the warm welcome to Team Central!!! I'm ready to start securing some strong business partners. I just bought my biz opp domain name today and I will call you about the retail sites I am considering. Thanks for the input you gave me on those earlier today.
Regarding the due diligence, I always do a thorough job when seeking out new opportunities. Having been burned in the past, one can never be too cautious. Do you know which states GRN and Gold Crown Resorts corporate filings are in? I still have to check the respective secretary of states, as well as the BBB and local Chambers of Commerce.
Who's going to take the Stanley Cup this year? Go Blackhawks!
Chow for now.
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kim_ward Forums Member
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#158 · Posted: 4 Dec 2007 15:45 · Edited by: kim_ward
Quoting: jaxman What's the reality of marketing high ticket items? The various biz opps all have the hype and claim it's easy to sell their programs. I am looking at GRN and the reverse funnel system, but have concerns about prospects not being able to afford the initial 3K and the subsequent ad budget and ongoing monthly expenses involved. I'm sold on the product and the pay plan, but worry about how many prospects I'll have to talk to to convert to a customer or biz builder, which translates into tons of ads and a high ad budget??? Any input would be appreciated regarding the marketing of high ticket items, vs. the lower dollar program that most people can afford. Thanks and good luck with all your ventures, both personally and professionally.
Hi Joe,
I'd love to give a quick reply as well. Cost is never an issue in GRN, unless one makes it, because we offer so many options. I'd be happy to go over that with you if you'd like.
The RFS is only one option in GRN, but it was designed to help others who have the same concerns as you mentioned... closing ratio's, which even in RFS can vary.
If the cost of RFS is an issue for people, but they like some of the aspects of it, well the good news is that there is a new system with a calling center that will be available soon.
Personally, I like and use a few systems in GRN, and promote them to different target markets.
On the lower dollar programs, well, to be honest, it's great to have something complimentary in place for those who do not join your business right away, but you really do not want to promote two businesses at one time.
You could however implement a strategy that would allow you to generate an income while people are looking at your business online, and create free or paid leads for yourself while doing so. I would be happy to send info on that your way, if you'd like.
If looking at a lower end program vs. GRN, that's easy.  Just go by what product you like, leave price out of the factor, like Terri said, there are people out there who want what we have. Just like if you were to sell homes. There are buyers for all price ranges.
Hope that helps,
Kim
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jaxman Forums Member
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#159 · Posted: 4 Dec 2007 21:59
Greetings Kim,
Thanks for the input. Just as you said, I am finding out that the product makes all the difference. Pull aside the comp plans, and just compare the product lines head-to-head. After I have done that, I have concluded that GRN is the Top Dog, when compared to CTC or Coastal, which were the others I was considering. Plus after looking at their website a few times, it is very evident that GCR/GRN is a world class company with a solid reputation dating back to 1986, offering "superior accomodations at attractive prices". Need I say more!
Good luck with your efforts. I appreciate your offer to assist, but I'll be working with Chad, Terry, Jill, Mike, Phillip, etc. of Team Central.
Chow for now.
Joe
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kim_ward Forums Member
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#160 · Posted: 5 Dec 2007 12:15
No problem Joe, anytime.
I do see that you have already decided to join... this page was not was I was on when I posted. 
Best wishes to you in GRN Joe, and happy holidays!
Kim
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