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dani_nae
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#281 · Posted: 17 Dec 2008 23:32
freedom08: I signed up to it and the only thing I have bad to say is Alertpay takes about 2 weeks to verify your account and to fund it takes another 4 days. I was recruiting one guy and it took him about 10 days just to get money into his AP account. If you could target Alertpay users and market exclusively to these people you would blow it up.......hit me back and let me know if that helps?
actually, you aren't even required to verify your account before signing up and you can pay instantly with a credit/debit card, if you read in alert pay it says that. and we signed up for the program within 5 minutes of opening our alert pay account (for a personal pro account).
Julsy... have you emailed that person in your downline to ask them about what they are doing that is making them so successful at it?
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Iceburgh871
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#282 · Posted: 17 Dec 2008 23:57 · Edited by: Iceburgh871
Mindovermatter you can private message me at the top of the screen and I will give you my email and instant messanger name if you are interested in some help I would be willing to help you with anything that you need. 
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MindoverMatter
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#283 · Posted: 18 Dec 2008 17:52 · Edited by: MindoverMatter
Thanks a bunch Iceburgh, you've got a pm
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Iceburgh871
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#284 · Posted: 18 Dec 2008 18:39
Your welcome Mindovermatter. I am sending you a lengthy email offering my help with anything you need and also with some advertising techniques and some other info as well. Good luck and let me know if you need anything at all!
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RQMatias
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#285 · Posted: 19 Dec 2008 12:05
I could never get over the send $5 to 5 people aspect... I tried this once like 20 years ago through the mail and made a little money... then I got a letter from the US Post Master saying "Cease and Desist"
This is just an online version of that... gifting is just to shady for me... but different strokes for different folks...
Cheers,
Robert
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Iceburgh871
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#286 · Posted: 19 Dec 2008 12:52 · Edited by: Iceburgh871
Things change in 20 years RQMatias. Your experience in no way reflects the changes that have been made to cash gifting systems. You were apparently participating in a pryamid ponzi scheme 20 years ago. That however is not what this is. People are kicked out and forced to rejoin the community after 6 months and start from the ground up again thus eliminating people at the top from making all the money which is why pryamid ponzi schemes were illegal.
Also I couldn't help but notice you are advertising a matrix system. Which interestly enough is almost the EXACT same format as the system you are bashing just about 10.4 times more expensive than the cash leveraging network. Could it be that you are just trying to add negative attention to the competition? Why would you feel the desire to spontaneously post about your experience from 20 years ago? Don't assume people aren't smart enough to catch on to your ruse.
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RQMatias
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#287 · Posted: 19 Dec 2008 13:20
Hey Iceburgh... no offense and our programs are light years different...
The program I worked through the mail 20 years ago is the exact model of the CLN... things don't change that much... you pay 5 people $5 and then add your name to the list and then you move up the list when others join and you potentially earn more as it promotes... I get it... but ultimately it's a gifting ponzi let's face it... we're all adults here... not that there's anything wrong with that
The program I'm working with Jason Pearson is very solid with a solid product and the program is designed to re-enter the folks that cycle right under new folks so it naturally circulates funds and rewards everyone... much like the banking system or our economy... if you position yourself correctly
Let's just agree to disagree and I wish you all the best... I just want to give the readers a different view... a different choice... that's what makes this country and this business a beautiful thing...
Happy Holidays,
RQMatias
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Iceburgh871
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#288 · Posted: 19 Dec 2008 13:46 · Edited by: Iceburgh871
No I'm sorry I don't see a difference.
Your system is 260$ to buy "the marketing formula"
Cash leveraging is 25$ and they don't claim to sell you the formula, they give you the formula to market it for free.
It's just different terminology, but it's the same thing. TCLS could easily claim to be selling you all their marketing tools and automated website access ect. for the 25$ but that stuff comes for free when you sign up. They really are VERY similar systems just HUGE price differences.
And no it is not a ponzi I explained with the 6 months rotation why it's not in the post above.
But it's is fine to just agree to disagree but I at least feel the need to set the record straight. 
Happy holidays to you as well!
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dani_nae
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#289 · Posted: 19 Dec 2008 20:58
now now all lets play nice! Some people actually prefer that there are no "products" to sell. Besides, how many programs have we all seen that take you through ten pages of videos and reading and then you STILL don't know what you are buying until you actually send a payment. I would never walk into target and buy a big black box full of stuff I had to sell to other people without knowing what it was! I figured even if TCLS doesn't work for me (which hasn't been the case), at least I didn't invest a bunch of money into something that isn't for me and then someone else made 200 bucks off of me and I make nothing.
I also wanted to add that we signed up for TCLS just a few days ago and aready have 2 people signed up under us and so far I just post on this forum and sent out an email to everyone in my address book, so the system is working for us!
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Iceburgh871
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#290 · Posted: 19 Dec 2008 21:34
I think me and RQ were playing nice We were each just stating our different oppinions. There was no hostility or name calling. If fact he wished me happy holidays and I did the same.
It's good that you are having success as well dani. As I said before just make sure and help your downline as much as you possibly can. I really think that is the difference between having success with these systems more often than not.
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bdkfreedom
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#291 · Posted: 20 Dec 2008 02:07
I agree with you iceburgh! Being in the system for a few days now, I see how important it is not to only start your own downline but to really be there for your downline through info and support. The more you help and walk through your members the better off you will be in the long run!
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Iceburgh871
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#292 · Posted: 20 Dec 2008 02:35
good luck bdkfreedom, I hope you do really well for yourself! I think you have the right mentality to be successful with this. I think some people get it and some just don't when it comes to this stuff.
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Tonya
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#293 · Posted: 20 Dec 2008 08:52
I joined TCLS a few days ago, but I apparently deleted the email with the link to the back office. I have emailed them a couple times, but have got no response as of yet. Can anyone help me?
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#294 · Posted: 20 Dec 2008 12:08
I am a little worried about these systems. They don't seem to be genuine businesses to me. No product to speak of!
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Iceburgh871
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#295 · Posted: 21 Dec 2008 05:38
chapatoni. TCLS does not to consider themselves a buiness but rather of community of people like to give and receive small cash gifts. There are no presidents or CEOs or anything (no one at the top). So in a sense you are right, they aren't a genuine buiness.
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#296 · Posted: 21 Dec 2008 05:40 · Edited by: Iceburgh871
Is this what you were looking for Tonya?
http://www.cashleveragingnetwork.com/members
MODS: please don't erase this I am not advertising this is not my site. I am trying to help Tonya
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#297 · Posted: 22 Dec 2008 15:59 · Edited by: Julsy
Sorry ofnet776, but this thread is about "The Cash Leveraging System" and honestly in order for your system to work I have no doubt that it takes BIG money out of pocket to start and thats the beauty of TCLS, all it ever takes is a one time $25.00! You just can't beat that!!!
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#298 · Posted: 23 Dec 2008 11:06
im trying to log in to my TCLS backoffice and i am getting this error
"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.Apache Server at www.cashleveragingnetwork.com Port 80 "
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BeInProfitMode
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#299 · Posted: 23 Dec 2008 11:41
I just tried logging in and I got the same error.
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Iceburgh871
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#300 · Posted: 23 Dec 2008 14:54
I'd just give it some time. It's probably a standard server crash. This happens to everything online that gets a large amount of traffic. I wouldn't worry to much about it.
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