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bdkfreedom
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#401 · Posted: 5 Feb 2009 18:26
I am going to jump on the bandwagon here on the criticism for TCLS! It is a system that is very tough if you do not know how to market or advertise online. Yes it is fairly cheap to join in but unless you are totally committed to it, I don't see much success in it. Not to mention how hard it will be to be successful due to the fact that the actual website is down 75% of the time! I see many of you testing out the Matrix sstem and will have to keep us all updated on how that turns out!
For those wanting to learn everything in the world when it comes to affiliate marketing, you must watch the videos! The information given by Mack in these videos will blow your mind! I have never seen someone give so much information out to his fellow club members!
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dani_nae
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#402 · Posted: 5 Feb 2009 18:57
TCLS just urks me off. I honestly can't believe how they just leave everyone in the dark when the site is down and then come back and act like nothing happened! Its like WHAT? The friggin site was down for 3 weeks!!! I worked my back side off article marketing, getting a blog started, all this stuff, I had a TON of impressions on my blog but guess what?! NO ONE could click my links to TCLS. What bull.
*steps off of soapbox*
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kellysharali
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#403 · Posted: 6 Feb 2009 12:39 · Edited by: kellysharali
I couldn't agree with your more. TCLS seems like it started off well but then it just dropped off the deep end. There are better options out there with better support. Check out key-to-cash or even oversized cash.
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HauseMan
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#404 · Posted: 9 Feb 2009 02:04
Just for everyone's information, AlertPay is having issues with their bank or EFT/ACH services and is in the process of changing over to another provider. Everything is supposed to be back by mid-February, they say.
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Cash Gifting
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#405 · Posted: 9 Feb 2009 04:55
I love gifting and am doing very well but I have no experience with the cash leveraging system
Chuck
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#406 · Posted: 12 Feb 2009 11:38
Interesting,
Like anything, you will always hear the good, bad and ugly of programs, and bad news always travels faster than good news, especially on the internet.
When I started to take gifting seriously, I researched every single program inside and out, as everyone should do. Don't take the word of one person, collect as many opinions as you can find, there are hundreds if you do a search.
One observation I have made is that the worse the recession gets, the more response I am seeing from my post card system. In fact, it is amazing, but months after I sent, I am still getting inquires who note post card in capture page. Heck, I hadn't used direct mail in over two decades since I switched to internet, but it works, at least with gifting it does.
Another thing I have learned is most people go through trends, at least I do. MLM was a trend, it runs hot and cold, then HYIP's, and we all know what a scam they are, then AdSurf deals, GetPaidTo and on and on it goes. Like I said, these are all trends which are broken depending on your success or failure. As we also know, 97% fail, so this is why these trends are moving so quickly, people get scammed and burned, and wait for the next hot thing to come along.
In a recession, it is much more difficult to identify the best home business opportunities, but don't believe everything you read, everyone on forums like this are posting with one thing in mind, to promote what they are working. Nothing wrong with that, I do it too, but you have to read dozens of forums to get a clear picture on any business opportunity you are considering.
Gifting is the next trend to explode, and almost everyone involved has been burned out, fed up, or scammed on MLM, HYIP's and all the rest, so what does this tell us? Well, having been in home based and online businesses for years, I have seen it all, and first ignored gifting as not real, but it is, and it is working for thousands who are also fed up, so all I can say is do your own due diligence and don't believe everthing you hear, either good, bad or ugly, research it yourself.
With so many new gifting programs popping up, it becomes more difficult to choose which is best, and although the nickel dime deals may sound better, less risk, etc., rarely do they pan out. Why, simple, the people who join these are less likely to have the money to properly promote, so they are full of quitters. If you are serious, you have to spend money to make it, no matter what business venture you start, it takes money to make money. The same effort and cost is involved whether you are promoting a $5.00 deal or a $500. one, so think about it, I know I did, and time is money, advertising is money, so why would I want to do the same work, spend the same for advertising for $5.00 as I would for $500. or more? It all comes down to risk verses reward, so gamble wisely. lol
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#407 · Posted: 14 Feb 2009 02:07
Re your PA
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#408 · Posted: 14 Feb 2009 14:04
I had TCLS banners all over the net. No gifts came my way. I stopped spending too much time on it when the "Latest News Update" date is October 18, 2008. To me this shows that the site owner is not spending much time promoting his own site.
I'm deleting my banners and closing shop on this one. To me, it's a waste of time. 
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cashgiftingnerd
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#409 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 10:08
Everyone, everyone, everyone . . . It has happened!!! TCLS have finally became a scam! I cannot believe this! What will be happening to the people that have just signed up with them within the last few days? Did you guys noticed what just did happened?????
Go to the site of TCLS and watch what happens: It has become a $100 cash gifting program, while the current members that were in it will lose all their down line.
We cannot just leave this like this. Let's report these bastards sitting behind this program!
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cashgiftingnerd
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#410 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 10:35
Just minutes after this discovery that TCLS is being redirected to globalresidualpayments.com, I have just realised that now it all of a sudden does not appear to redirect no longer . . . Now if you do visit TCLS' site, you will rather find: Page Load Error! The website will no longer be found anymore as it has shut down permanently! It has scammed a lot of people (thousands) and will try to do it with others as well, making as if it will be a new site, every time.
I will be joining key-to-cash for now, but for the longest part only for about six months. (I don't know whether you also just stay in here for 6 months just like TCLS). But then I will be out and move on to plain ol' affiliate programs. One of the best TRUSTED ways to make money on the internet. Key-to-Cash could probably stay in biz for longer, but all of these cash gifting programs on the net are just like the scam Paid-To-Click sites, that shows itself the one day, and the next they aren't there anymore.
On second thoughts, let's make it two months. 
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#411 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 16:49
Well, the key here was in January when the site went down the second time and didn't come back up within a reasonable time period and they NEVER sent out any notifications to let anyone know what was going on just to reasure their own people. Let alone all the 100's of e-mail's that they ignored and never answered. Like I say, I knew in January when the site went down for the second time that something just wasn't right here!
I will never get into another "cash gifting" program ever again! In fact, I am having GREAT success in two different Matrix systems instead, since I gave up on TCLS. The big difference that I have found is the actual "teamwork" and contact with your upline! In both the systems I am in now it is a HUGE deal that your upline communicate with you at least once a week or so to make sure that we are all doing what we need to do to get our 1st level filled, then when that happens we are all frocusing on promoting for our downlines so they get spillovers. This concept works SO much better IMO, because everyone starts to make money much faster!
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#412 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 18:17
I Just saw this thread for the first time and I have to say that most of the people here do not seem to be happy with the system that they joined. I have been in cash gifting for about 4 months and am very happy. I looked into it for almost a year before deciding to join with the Abundant Living System(ALS).
Having said that, I've never experienced one issue what so ever. No problems with the server being down, no web site errors, and no lack of support. They send out emails and updates directly to each member. Also the minimum start up gift was only $75. So for just a little bit more than TCLS, the benefits are huge and the gifts just keep coming in.
That's just the way that I see it. Thanks for hearing me out, and
no matter what you do or which system you're with, I wish you all great success. -Jeff
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#413 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 19:01
Agreed,
Whenever a site goes down, and is not recovered within a day, watch out, not a good sign of health in any program.
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#414 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 02:54 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
So, no one got $75,000 in 5 weeks?!?
And where are all those who were talking about their payouts?
ALWAYS - Don't beeleeve tha HYPE!!
I guess this one has run it's course - and so quickly too!
I wouldn't totally give up on the 'gifting' idea though.
Just don't invest too heavily.
There are some that you can join at a VERY low cost.
Too bad about TCLS.
But ANY matrix/gifting plan, with a pyramid structure, will leave the folx at the bottom hanging, if/when the structure crumbles.
You just gotta hope what u r doing won't cost you too much.
Do a 'who is' search, and note how LONG the website is paid up for.
1 year? Beware!
But if you see they are paid up for the next 10 or 20 years, well that gives you an idea how serious they are about STAYING in business!!
And learn the online marketing game in the process.
THEN,
take your skills to a more worthy pursuit.
These 'fly by night' plans are just 'get paid now' schemes after all.
Ways to learn the online marketing biz.
Use whatever profits you can accrue, to find and invest in a REAL online biz!
(They DO exist!)
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#415 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 07:53
Now just look here . . . Instead of joining Key-to-Cash as mentioned in my previous post, I decided I would rather join . . . Ezycashgifts.com! TJMoneyMan, I see you are also involved into it. Why didn't you tell me earlier?! Since I have seen this thing, I became even more excited and more excited. It's a cash gifting program that will give you digital products in return for your money. So it totally removes the image of A PYRAMID SCHEME. In fact. This makes it seem not a cash gifting program at ALL. Since I realized that TCLS have shut down permanently, yesterday morning, I came off of Ezycashgifts (and not "EZ" cash gifts) a little after that and immediately signed up. With $5. From that time until now, I already have a $15 in my Alertpay account, actually more successful than TCLS. I'm happy that TCLS is gone now!
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#416 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 12:32
Curious,
So who has made $9450. in three weeks for $5.00??? It took me more than a two months to net $7000. in my gifting program, and I started at $3500. level, so please show how $5.00 can hit $9450. in less than a month for average person.
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cashgiftingnerd
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#417 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 16:04
Warranties4less, I think you like to be naive.
Obviously you will not make $9450 within 3 weeks. That's only sales talk. Everyone know this - I thought you did too?
Even if you would make $50 within 3 weeks - fact would be: You made $45 profit. Period.
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#418 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 16:14
For one or the other reason I see that TCLS is back again. Why are they still messing around with people. They are bad news to everyone. I wish they will stay away permanently as some of its members (out of total desperation) would still promote this cash gifting program - in spite of the bad reputation it got. I am so thankful for yesterday when I saw their site down. At first I was frustrated. They made me look like a bad person through the eyes of my down line. I think I will find better success with Ezy Cash Gifts, as it has a products as return on investment. This is something thus more legal through the eyes of everyone.. I think, following the fact that I gained 4 sign ups from yesterday already, confirms this.
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#419 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 22:36
Obviously,
And you think everyone knows this is just sales talk, which would indeed by naive. This was my point, and why so many of these set people up to fail before they ever begin. Seriously, how many do you think ever reach this $9450. level in three weeks for only $5.00? Sales talk is one thing, pure BS is quit another.
Sorry, but acceptable sales talk says up to, or potential, not earn $9450. in three weeks for only $5.00. This is no different than the hype used with the TCLS deal. Nothing wrong with a little sales talk hype, but because so many are indeed naive is the main reason so many quit when their expectations are not realized in three weeks.
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#420 · Posted: 17 Feb 2009 14:58
The Cash Leveraging System has Shut Down!
Hi, my name is Salina and I was a member of TCLS and when I clicked on my members page yesterday it came up not found.
Then, when I clicked on my domain that points to my TCLS referral link it went to a totally new gifting program that was being promoted by someone other than me! I was shocked. Come to find out that ALL of TCLS referral links pointed to this new site.
What happened was that TCLS shut down and this person promoting this new gifting site saw that TCLS domain was for sale and bought it not realizing that people were actively still promoting their TCLS site. He did fix this problem temporarily by forwarding the domain to an empty page till the word gets out the TCLS no longer exists.
If you click on your TCLS link it will go to a page that says "This domain has expired and is no longer in use."
What was even more surprising, was this new gifting program is absolutely amazing. It is similar to TCLS using AlertPay but it is nothing that I've ever seen before.
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