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skinneytim
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#21 · Posted: 3 Feb 2009 17:45
I've signed up... it has been almost two weeks and I can assure you I have not seen a single dime! Luckily I was sponsored by a buddy who paid me the instant sign up fee so it didn't cost me the full enrollment price. I would dub this a scam....but that is just my opinion. Today is feb 3 and it is not doing anything for me (my sponsor who intro'd me to this has not gotten paid either)
As a general rule, I say if their isn't a quality product that could stand alone and retail near the price being charged...stay away!
Can an MLM have a quality product? I have a great one called ilearningglobal.tv
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tweston
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#22 · Posted: 4 Feb 2009 00:30
I signed up with the program. And I got cycled just yesterday! That is great. $27 for doing nothing. 
So for those people who are asking If anyone has made any money with this:
I have!
And NO that $27 did NOT come from recruiting anyone, just from the Push Button Xtreme matrix.
I am very confident that I will cycle again.
cheers!
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mirab
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#23 · Posted: 4 Feb 2009 23:26
Most people who make thousands are not telling all the facts. Things like they already had a huge list they were building for years and when they join a program most of their list follow.
People like to join under someone whos making thousands cause they think they will have the same results, but the fact is If you don't have a following of thousands yet, then you have to recruit one by one.
Even with good upline advise, it will take time..
How can you make 10,000 a month right away when you have to recruit one by one and compete with all the other reps doing the same thing?
Luck, or a list built over years??
I'm no GURU but I've been around long enough to realize this..
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#24 · Posted: 5 Feb 2009 20:32
Interesting,
Granted, I was not thrilled with LCM matrix, and in fact, most matrix structures will fail for the majority of those in them since you get stuck in a dead leg and there is little hope of any spillover fairy coming to bless you with her stick, more likely you will get jammed with it. lol
I study them all, and it looks like the founders saw LCM die on the vine like all the rest, so perhaps they have learned something along the way for this is unique. A non static position is the secret, everyone keeps cycling back under everyone over and over, and this should insure a long term success record for everyone.
I would not even look at most matrix programs knowing all the Guru's already have their positions cemented at top and hit their lists to make a fortune over and over again. For those who do not have a big list, this will make one for you, so it is worth price just for that alone. Without a list, you are lost on the internet, so make this your first goal.
I must admit, I was skeptical, but I like to gamble, and this is working exactly as promoted. I cycled three times and got bonus payout, so I am certainly impressed to date with program. This could be the one, so what is the risk, you need to build your list anyway, so jump in and start building your list. Nothing lost, Push Button is a good system even without income.
Success to all, Mike
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piggybanker
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#25 · Posted: 6 Feb 2009 15:10 · Edited by: piggybanker
skinneytim: I've signed up... it has been almost two weeks and I can assure you I have not seen a single dime! Luckily I was sponsored by a buddy who paid me the instant sign up fee so it didn't cost me the full enrollment price. I would dub this a scam....but that is just my opinion.
tweston: So for those people who are asking If anyone has made any money with this: I have!
I've cycled through the $27 level and just yesterday I cycled
through the $57 level and the $97 comes next.
From what I've researched, the problem with cyclers is the
patience that it takes to wait out the cycling time.
I don't now how someone can 'dub this as a scam' if people
are making money ... yes it's slow, but it is coming in.
Obviously, those who are recruiting are making the most
money.
$25 fast start bonus for each referral and $15 new product
sales and there's leadership pool money.
So, Rachel Long has recruited 300 people. That means she's
made a minimum of $12000 just in fast start bonuses and
new product sales.
I'm sure she's not dubbing this a scam. But, everyone is right.
Those with huge lists will always do better than those who
don't.
Good luck,
Michael
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#26 · Posted: 6 Feb 2009 22:05
Interesting,
I have several I introduced who have not sold anyone, yet they have at least cycled once, so if anyone has not yet cycled, you are simply in a weaker position in matrix at the moment, and if you understand matrix plans, this is usually what happens in all matrices.
In Push Button, you are not locked into one static position, so you just have to be a little more patient than two weeks. I cycled in first three days, then again on forth, but third took another week, so as we will see when illustrator is up, the cycles get slowed down as cycle past second. It does not mean you won't cycle, it just takes more patience if you choose not to promote it yourself.
I like what I see so far, and so do all my people, and I suspect more and more will be jumping into this in another month when everyone has cycled at least once, then watch what happens when it become reality that this works for even the do nothing crowd.
Success to all,
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tweston
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#27 · Posted: 7 Feb 2009 03:10
piggybanker: From what I've researched, the problem with cyclers is the patience that it takes to wait out the cycling time.
You are so right, piggybanker.
So many people are so impatient when it comes to making money. Sure, many websites promise so much these days and maybe they promise too much too!
Push Button Extreme has great products and I feel that even if you just cycle two or three times a month, you cover the monthly payments. And it's still a very nice program even for those who are not recruiting people, because the program has great sources for learning marketing online, autoresponder etc.
See you at the top!
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piggybanker
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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#28 · Posted: 14 Feb 2009 00:47
tweston: Push Button Extreme has great products and I feel that even if you just cycle two or three times a month, you cover the monthly payments.
I've been doing a lot more research and cyclers don't last.
If you're expecting to cycle two or three times a month you
might as well go hunting for another Magic Button to push.
95% of all internet marketers fail which leaves the top 5%
to make all the money. I'm not a 5 percenter nor do I want
to be. They're greedy people who don't care who they're
robbing from, just as long as they can make another sale.
I'm sick of seeing all these new launches and pre-launches
that are stealing from all of us suckers.... Yes! I'm calling
myself a sucker and guess what? If you're not a 5%er then
I guess I just called you a sucker too, but I apologize to
you for that.
Most of the people on this site really do want to make
money online. They're serious about it and I admire their
guts for at least trying to better their lives. I would really
like to see everyone here earning what they want to earn.
I've learned quite a lot in the last 7 or 8 years and I've got
the scars to prove it. I've even done some things I'm not
proud of doing, like pimping my signature in hopes of
getting that new referral.
A lot of times I was still testing something that I wasn't
sure of and sometimes it was something I thought was
legit, only to find out it wasn't what it was all hyped up to
be.
I don't know what most of you think, but I'm so sick of
seeing websites with sports cars, mansions, half naked
women, and dollar bills falling from the sky. Excuse me
but I think I might have to throw up.
Did ya'll know that testimonials can be bought? Yep!
I'm sick of those too.
Oh well, I've spewed enough for now.
Anyone seen my pimpmobile?
Best wishes to all of you,
Michael a.k.a. piggybanker (cuz that's about all I bank on some of these $%&* scams .... er um .... I mean Home-Based-Business-Opportunities)
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greatview
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#29 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 18:04
I pressed the person who told me about PBX about the details of how the "matrix" works and ....
oops, sorry. I accidentally clicked Post while moving my laptop.
Anyways, the guy was explaining to me how it works. It's a GIGANTIC matrix that requires THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people to fill the matrix. As you get "bumped" through the levels, and have an X amount of people below you, you "cycle".
After we did the math with him, he was so embarrassed to actually be promoting it. After the embarrassment, came the anger. This program is dead on arrival.
AVOID at all costs. Check their website and you'll see that the "freebie" signups don't even reach 80 a day these days. Shame on the creators of that program.
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mirab
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#30 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 20:43 · Edited by: mirab
I can relate piggybanker. I'm sick of the "who else wants to make a million dollars?" Click here!!
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RubyHeart
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#31 · Posted: 27 Feb 2009 05:10
I found this posted at RipOffReport.com. It affirmed my decision to ignore this "opportunity". To those who keep asking "where does the money come from?", the answer is from everyone who signs up. Don't let that be you! There's no such thing as money for nothing! Here's the post:
SUBJECT: Push Button Xtreme Total Ripoff!! Get in line and get SCREWED!!! Consider yourself warned.
BY: Jordan; Clarksville, Tennessee
SUBMITTED: 2/18/2009 8:38:50 PM
MODIFIED: 2/18/2009 8:39:00 PM
I unfortunately don't have time to write a full-length story on my experience so I'll just get to the important details: I foolishly paid $104.90 to become a member with a $37/month associated fee. They tell you the program is a profit-sharing matrix and 'No Recruiting Required' - 'Just Get in Line and Get Paid' - '$495/wk with no selling' - these are common pitches for this program. You are supposed to earn commissions every time you cycle through the matrix. I joined PBX just after it launched 4 weeks ago and have not cycled one time- thus haven't made a penny.
The hype surrounding this program is massive. That being said, this report will probably get the attention of recruiters who are promoting this scam. So when you see a rebuttal that says, ' I joined a week ago and I've already cycled and made my money back....blah,blah,blah'. DO NOT BELIEVE IT! They will desperately try to mask this scam with a false sense of integrity because they know potential customers will check this site before signing up. I wish someone had posted a report here before I joined. If so, I never would have signed up for this and my money would still be in my bank account. You've been warned.
Jordan
Clarksville, Tennessee
U.S.A.
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tweston
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Joined: 4 Feb 2009
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#32 · Posted: 27 Feb 2009 12:06
tweston: I am very confident that I will cycle again.
I have to take this back.
I waited the first 29 days and cancelled just before I was billed again. Needless to say, I didn't cycle again...
Attention
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If you are in this program and about to cancel, it's almost impossible to ask for a refund after you have cancelled through the website.
I would advise not join if you want to "get in line and get paid".
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TopCat
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#33 · Posted: 1 Mar 2009 02:15
I joined 10 days ago - but have not "cycled" . . . .YET !!
With any matrix set-up, the ones who get in early will probably cycle quite quickly - but PBX has 14 levels - so a lot of people will have to join before you cycle from say level 10.
Apart from any "cycling" income they have got a good selection of landing/capture pages which can be customized and hosted at no charge - I guess some people will be happy to pay the monthly fee just to use those - and regard any money earned through "cycling" as a bonus.
But if you have joined to make a fast buck - wait on ! ! 
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#34 · Posted: 1 Mar 2009 09:51
Funny,
How in the world would you go into any program and expect to make a profit in the first month. Egads, one month wonders are what gives the industry as a whole a bad name. No wonder most people fail, they quit before they begin. lol
If you understood the program, you would know that if you start on the lowest levels, 12th or 13th, it is going to take longer to cycle, no secret here, there are more positions that need to be filled to complete level which pushes you up another level.
I started on 10th level, hardly the top, but I studied the movement and cycled two times in first week. I had a woman from India who registered on 2/6 and was on 13th level, it took her until 2/22 to cycle, so logics says the level you start at dictates the time frame to cycle. She was excited because having spent $3K on several other deals and not making a dime, she was thrilled to death of seeing a measly $27.00. lol
There are many who cycled early, and now there are many who have not cycled in first couple weeks, and even some who are not seeing anything in first month, and it is these people who quit for they didn't take the time to absorb all the information on site.
What is sad is that I have seen many people quit over the years just before they would have made it big. One woman got disgusted when not seeing any results and signing up one person who did nothing in two months. She quit, and the one woman she sponsored rolled up to me in this program, and low and behold, she was setting up her business plan and did nothing for the first two months until she was ready. Long story short, she took the business serious and quit her excecutive sales job and went to work on her new business. She personally earned me several thousand every month for more than a decade, so let this be a lesson to those who quit before they ever begin.
Sorry, but if you quit in one month, you will never see success in any business of your own. The first lesson you learn as an entrepreneur is to never quit. If you are not prepared to stay the course in your own home business venture, then save yourself the disappointment and the few bucks and don't bother starting. You cannot possibly think you will succeed in one month and doing nothing at all towards marketing is even worse.
Yes, you can technically earn a minimum if you do nothing, and with so many do nothings in the world of online home businesses, imagine if Push Button was the one system which would allow all the do nothings in the world to squeeze out $1980. per month in six months, maybe a year, but just imagine if all the do nothings finally saw success, if only they would stay the course and not quit. The quitters are what kills all programs and why most MLM's hit the wall in 18 months, attrition is the enemy in all programs, always has, but again, imagine if that issue was solved?
Success to all,
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Bill Rogers
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#35 · Posted: 1 Mar 2009 23:17 · Edited by: Bill Rogers
I'm a little bit weary of this, but since it looks like it's free I think I might as well give it a shot. If some people have made money doing nothing, then at least $27 is better than $0. I'll take anything wherever I can get it.
EDIT: Forgot there was a second page, stopped when I saw that they were charging $99 to join, and decided not to join. Good thing when I saw the first reply at the top of this page.
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#36 · Posted: 4 Mar 2009 12:40 · Edited by: WARRANTIES4LESS
Update:
Having asked everyone I can what they are seeing, it is obvious that those on 13th level are going to see it take a lot longer than those who happened to come in on 10th level like I did. I saw a quick two cycles in first couple of weeks, then nothing for almost four weeks, but finally another cycle. Is this thrilling, not really, but then again, you have to understand nothing happens in most programs for many months other than your personal efforts.
Most people are looking for a free ride to riches, and this is the problem with the industry, everyone makes it sound like everything is get rich quick, get in now, etc. This one needs time to fill in that 14th level which requires over 16K, not that it won't happen, but not in the first month. Everyone cycles at different times based on one simple fact, where they begin, but the ones who don't begin will always lose, and no matter how many times I have seen these flash in the pan deals, how many really hang in there long enough to see results? Maybe 3%, so which will you be, the 3% who are winners, or the 97% who are the losers?
Success to all,
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daveg
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#37 · Posted: 6 Mar 2009 14:42
Here's my experience so far.
I joined February 1. Not cycled once and have been doing some promotion. My position doesn't seemed to have moved. It just says I need 25 more cycles before I would cycle. I contacted support and got a long drawn out response, which I couldn't understand.
For all the hype I'm starting to smell something...
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#38 · Posted: 6 Mar 2009 19:10
Update,
As I see it, we have to see the 14th level fill in before anyone who entered matrix in Feb. will cycle. I just researched all my people and the 14th level is seeing some fill in as of this week, three have seen one under them, so with this progress, we should see more cycles. If you are on 12th or below, you are going to see slower progress, but once you are in 10th or above, it speeds up considerably.
Success to all,
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newbiz02
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#39 · Posted: 7 Mar 2009 04:08
tweston: I signed up with the program. And I got cycled just yesterday! That is great. $27 for doing nothing. So for those people who are asking If anyone has made any money with this: I have!
Thanks alot for sharing, I got introduced to something like this from other forums, and i did sign up under one user, but didnt pursue it further because i was working on other stuff. I guess i'll look into it some more.
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biz2day
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#40 · Posted: 12 Mar 2009 17:45
l just had a quick look at the site and yes $100 is a lot cash to get started will look into this more and if l like it l might join
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