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WARRANTIES4LESS Forums Member
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#41 · Posted: 17 Mar 2009 18:30
Update:
Well, finally I see some action on the 14th level, so hopefully it will accelerate once this level is filled, so you have to be patient, and fortunately, I am. lol
Success to all, Mike
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DennisBayne Forums Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 3
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#42 · Posted: 23 Mar 2009 20:23
Yup. Things seem slow. But, only when you're witing on them.
The key point to all this is that there IS movement period. We would all like it to be faster. But, it's going to do whatever it's going to do.
Perhaps concentrating on personal sales would put more money in your pocket. That way you are only relying on what you can control and then the cycling becomes the icing on the cake.
Just a thought.
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#43 · Posted: 27 Mar 2009 13:50
I was in PBX for 2 months Cycled twice,At that time we got paid via PAYONEER which is a Big time ripoff. Iquit PBX
Here is a clue take a look at the leaders on top of PBX. Then google their names. Thats should be a clue on what to do next. Why are these same names jumping from program to program?
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DennisBayne Forums Member
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#44 · Posted: 29 Mar 2009 11:25
Hey Earl, to a certain degree you are right. I don't know any of those folks personally. However, there are alot of sponsors in EVERY business out there that are total duds.
All they are interested in is the quick buck and the the next sale. What happens in that situatio is that they make their money, drop their downline on their heads and move on.
That's exactly why folks need to do their due diligence not only on the business, but their future sponsor as well.
Once you find a business that fits, make sure you find a sponsor that will be there after the check clears.
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WARRANTIES4LESS Forums Member
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#45 · Posted: 29 Mar 2009 21:34
earlcash: Here is a clue take a look at the leaders on top of PBX. Then google their names. Thats should be a clue on what to do next. Why are these same names jumping from program to program? Good point,
But you missed the real point, when you have a huge list as Rachal does, why wouldn't you use it to promote a dozen programs, after all, not everyone is interested in the same business opportunities.
Having been around long enough to research thousands of online businesses, the one thing that you learn is that those with the biggest lists win. PBX is the perfect answer since it is allowing you to build your own list, otherwise you will never make it in any online home business.
The top producers are all on that list for a reason, they earned it through years of building their lists, just as all the online guru's have done. I don't care what their names are, if they are making money it is because they have a list.
PBX is going to work for only those poeple who stick it out and are patient and most are not. I have seen people quit after one month, and this blows my mind. Who in their right mind can possible hope to make money in first month and not do any promoting? For all those who quit, let this be a lesson to you, only losers quit, and this is why 97% plus fail in their attempts at an online business, they quit before the begin.
If you study the PBX plan, and understand the mechanics of a non static matrix, and it helps to watch the new presentation they just added, only then will you see you have to be patient. It may take two months to break even each month, and it may take six months to hit the minimum $1980. per month, but so what, I could care less if it takes a year, the product works, and is well worth the small cost per month.
Yes, I too have seen little progress as I am now on 10th level, but I made enough to pay for a whole year in first two months, so I can afford to be patient and let the matrix fill, and it will, it just is a little slower for some who fall in the lower levels of 12 or 13th. But if you understand this matrix, while it is slow to cycle now, it will speed up as you progress to top, and everyone is subject to the same growth rates, some faster to start, but they will occupy the exact same level you are in sooner or later, even the top dogs on list, so be patient, system is working, and better for those who work it. lol
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daveg Forums Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 11
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#46 · Posted: 6 Apr 2009 14:13
My experience has been that my position was in fact static. It never moved once in two months. I pulled the plug...
If list building is the goal, why not put up a capture page which you can do for little or no cost. Then get a domain and web hosting which can be had for $4-6 a month.
I've seen the same with all the guru's. You see them everywhere.
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WARRANTIES4LESS Forums Member
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#47 · Posted: 6 Apr 2009 18:16
daveg: My experience has been that my position was in fact static. It never moved once in two months. I pulled the plug... Two months, now what would you have done if you cycled three times in your third month? You didn't bother taking the time to understand how a non static matrix works, everyone cycles at different time lines, but all cycle the same in the end, some sooner than others depending on which level you started at. What level were you first positioned on? If it was 11th or lower, the cycles are obviously slower to start, but then when you replace those who cycled first, which is how it works, then you will see a period of faster cycling.
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DennisBayne Forums Member
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#48 · Posted: 7 Apr 2009 18:04
I somewhat agree. As I stated in our Team videos, I believe that the income the company projects is possible. But, not practical.
If you look at PBX and make a business decision as opposed to an emotional decision, it will make more sense to you.
In other words, don't invest out of necessity or desparation. Invest based on all the data you can find and then flip the coin.
Even so, in the Team video we did on cycling, I think you can see that PBX is still a no-brainer in our point of view.
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neilac Forums Member
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#49 · Posted: 13 Apr 2009 13:07
I joined, I didn't promote and in one month, NOTHING! So much for their "you don't have to recruit". Its a sham. Overhyped. Neil
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WARRANTIES4LESS Forums Member
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#50 · Posted: 13 Apr 2009 18:58
neilac: I joined, I didn't promote and in one month, NOTHING! So much for their "you don't have to recruit". Its a sham. Overhyped. Neil Funny,
And who overhyped it? Certainly nothing from the company said that in one month you would be rich, so tell us, what did you expect, to make money doing nothing in only one month? I guarantee you will never see success in anything you try for only one month, so good luck.
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neilac Forums Member
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#51 · Posted: 15 Apr 2009 10:40
I was in for 27 days, did not promote avidly and guess what? I was in exactly the same position after the 27 days. So much for not having to recruit. They were fast to give a refund. Neil
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WARRANTIES4LESS Forums Member
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#52 · Posted: 15 Apr 2009 14:06
Mind boggling,
Let us look at the worst case scenario, it took a full year to hit $1980. per month with zero promoting. So you had to invest about $460. for the year to see a $1980. per month return paid forever? No work, no effort, no selling, no recruiting, just patience and a few hundred bucks, so would it be worth it?
Would it be worth it to have built a list of prospects of perhaps thousands with a little free classified advertising effort? Heck, I have passivley promoted it, mostly for no cost or low cost, and I have over 300 in my back office as prospects already, never mind ten times what I have paid into it to date.
One thing I learned a long time ago, patience is a virtue, nothing comes as fast as we would all like it to, but if you have patience, and don't quit, yes, you will find success in almost any solid business. I don't think anyone should join if they are intent on doing nothing, but hey, $1980. is enough to pay your mortgage every month, so maybe some people would be happy with the minimum amount for doing zero promoting.
Another thing I also learned, the opportunities you pass on which eventually explode will haunt you all your life, believe me, I have had that happen. You can't win them all, but if you are not in the game, you will never win anything. Think about it folks, quitters are always going to be losers.
Success to all,
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7FigureHelper Forums Member
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#53 · Posted: 15 Apr 2009 19:01
DennisBayne: I somewhat agree. As I stated in our Team videos, I believe that the income the company projects is possible. But, not practical. If you look at PBX and make a business decision as opposed to an emotional decision, it will make more sense to you. In other words, don't invest out of necessity or desparation. Invest based on all the data you can find and then flip the coin. I agree with you on this. For those people that were desperate to get a quick fix they were extremely disappointed. I think PBX attracted the workers and also those that have a get rich quick mentality.
The bottom line is this, if you are looking to make serious money online you need to learn how to market. If you don't have qualified leads coming in daily to your list, you won't be in business long.
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#54 · Posted: 15 Apr 2009 19:15
Hi,
Do not trust company who advertise on emails.
Most of them are scams.
The real online legitimated companies do not advertise you directly.
They are out there on search engines.
You can always find good programs on search engine.
Happy day~^^
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