I hate to bad-mouth anybody but I want to briefly relate my experience with of couple of programs I've tried and had bad luck with I'm sure I would have done better If I had promoted harder but I did give these programs at least 40 hours of my time each - two full work-weeks so here goes... 1. Rocket Profit - affiliate program that has multiple offers sort of like Clickbank. They have a lot of offers that are free or cheap for people to sign-up for, i.e. ringtones, college tuition searches, sweepstakes etc. I promoted about 10 of their offers, with ads and articles and article submission services, got lots of targeted hits to the salespages - got two sales totaling about 8 dollars - which disappeared because the offers were canceled. 2 thirds of the offers I spent time writing articles and ads for canceled in the next week or so - -tough luck I guess 2. Allsat - company that sells sign-ups for Dish Network satellight TV. I wrote USFree ads built a webpage did PPC and got over 500 TARGETED hit to their website, (not hits to my ad, but clickthroughs to their sales pages) results: 0, goose egg, nada. I wrote them asking what their conversion rate was for targeted hits. I got an email that did everything but answer my question. I sent another email asking again and got a response saying hard to tell but probably a 20 to 30 % conversion rate!! Well, if that's the case why did I get zero sales from over 500 clicks to THEIR sales page? Based on what they said I should have made at least .20 X 500 = 100 sales. Of couse the guy from Allsat that answered question had to be wrong - a 20 to 30 % conversion rate is fantastic - if ANYBODY has a program that gets that kind of conversions please PM me!!. I have made money on other affilate programs and I double-checked my Allsat stuff - everything seems ok. Ok, I bet there are people getting rich from Rocket Profit and Allsat, (probably through PPC), but not me, I admit I an somewhat new to IM but not so new that I can't or haven't made money, sometimes 100's of dollars, through other programs - Clickbank, Amazon, PayDot.com etc. If you have had positive experiences with either of these programs please feel free to post and prove me wrong! I just wanted to relate my experiences with these programs and vent a little. I feel better now - thanks.