Advantages of either $1295 package VS $3995 package

Discussion in 'Coastal Vacations' started by screamingeagle, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. screamingeagle

    screamingeagle New Member

    What are the advantages of purchasing the $3995 package over the $1295 package?

    I've seen the web video presentation by this person who is a level III International Director. What does that mean, that someone is a level III International Director?

    Has anyone heard of Ryan and Melissa Colby, level III International Directors?

    Thank You,
  2. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    I have never heard of these people but there are thousands of people in Coastal so that is not unusual. The advantage of joining at level 2 is you get a more versatile travel package with unlimited cruise vouchers and you get to make $3,000.00 commissions. I say $3,000 because I am with the WeCloseYourSales call center and our level 2 commission is $3,000 instead of $3,200. I can give you more detail if you want to email me at In our group, all you do is advertise the call center's toll free number and they do the heavy lifting. We don't have to close sales unless we just want to. Also, if you join at level 2 through the call center, you get to keep all of your level one sales immediately. The other groups make you pass up your first two sales no matter what they are. We let you keep all of your level one sales if you join at level 2 and only pass up your first 2 level 2 sales when they come in so if the call center made 10 level 1 sales on your behalf right off the bat then you would have $10,000 in you pocket before passing up anything to your director. Cool, huh? I've generated $16,000.00 in the last 2 months so the call center is working GREAT for me and my team. Now, in fairness to the people you are already talking to, the call center is not manditory to make money in Coastal. Some directors make a lot of money cold calling leads. We simply make life easier because we just do some simple advertising and let the call center do the selling for us. Both ways work but some of us just don't like to sell and the call center takes care of that for us. Let me know if I can answer anymore questions.
  3. roger

    roger New Member

    Hi Robert,
    The advantages depend on which group and person you sign up with.

    In the Coastal Call Center (We Close Your Sales), if you came in at the $3995 Level, also called Level 2 or Premier level, you would automatically qualify for $1000 commissions on all your Level 1 sales but you would need to qualify for your Level 2 commissions ($3000) by passing up two Level 2 sales, which seems like a big price to pay for many and I tend to agree with that, in other words on my team I've never used the 2 up system...

    If you came in at Level 1 ($1295) you would need to qualify (pass up sales) before earning a commission. In short you are rewarded for coming in at a higher level.

    Being a Level 1, 2 or 3 Director just means the Level you bought in at. If you came in at the $1295 package you would be a Level 1 Director once qualified. If you upgraded to Level 2 you would be a Level 2 Director once qualified and so on.

    The uniqueness of our system is your prospect calls are handled by the Call Center, followed up and your sales are closed by the sales pros at the Call Center; your key role is to advertise. It would be remissive not to mention we paid out $1.5 million in commissions in an 18 month span! (I had to say it [​IMG] )

    Can't say I've heard of Ryan and Melissa but they probably haven't heard of me either! It doesn't mean they aren't good Directors because there are hundreds of Coastal Directors out there, some good and some bad like in any mix.

    I'm a qualified Level 2 Director which just means that I came in at that Level but I've been doing this business full time since July of last year and I use the product so I'm qualified enough to know I love the business but for new people I suggest you do your due diligence, ask the necessary questions, get references and if you decide to go forward make sure you'll follow through and don't give up once you hit your first bump! You will succeed as long as you have a strong Director who knows what he's doing and takes a leadership role by choice and of course you need to be the coachable type too!


  4. roger

    roger New Member

    Quoting: screamingeagleWhat are the advantages of purchasing the $3995 package over the $1295 package?

    Further to your question Robert, in the Levell II package compared to the Level 1, you also get an Int'l Vacation Card which gives you access to Europe and the rest of the world with 7 night / 6 day stays and unlimited Carnival Cruises that include all on-board activities and meals.

    But the best part in the differences of the two packages is the commissions paid! Feel free to contact me at if you have any additional questions.


  5. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    We started with the $1295 pkg because we didn't want to invest a lot of money, and we went with a call center to close our sales and invested a little more for that but we thought it was well worth it.

    In other words we opted for Level one and invested a little more to get the call center to close our sales for us instead of investing more buying the pkg.

  6. jlDunn

    jlDunn New Member

    Hi Robert,

    The main difference is the money.....if you start at level 2 you save $800 (Level 2 start up $3995......level 1 start up $1295 plus level 2 step up $3500 total $4795)

    You can only make what level you come in at.....if you come in at level 1 you can only sell level 1 (make $1000), if you come in at level 2 you can sell Level 1 & 2 (Make $1000 - $3000 or $3200) depends what group you join for the money you make at higher levels.....

    You can step up to level 2 if you choose to start at level 1, but you have to qualify again.....meaning you must make 2 level 1 training sales to qualify as a level 1 director, then make 2 level 2 training sales when you step up to level 2 to qualify as a level 2 director.....

    Depending who your director is, or which group you join.....if you come in at level 2 with CSG, you can use a level 1 or level 2 training sale to qualify.....if you come in at level 2 with the call centre, you have to have 2 level 2 sales, but get to keep the money from your level 1 sales....

    Now that is only the money making side of it....there are big differences in the actual package you recieve, and the Roger said above, Level 2 is an international vacation package with unlimited vacations around the world....

    I don't know the directors you mentioned, but being Level III only means that is what they bought, and are qualified to sell.....meaning they can make up to $9705 depending what group you are with.....

    Hope that helps
  7. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    Hey guys,
    I have a correction and an apology to make. I didn't realize this but the Coastal Wealth Builders team also does the "keep your level one sales if you sign up at level 2" plan which is apparently approved by the BOD. Lora alerted me to this and I appologize to her and anyone else who uses this option. I do know that many teams do not do this. I have been told by my director and others in the business that most teams do not do this so I am proud to say that Coastal Wealth Builders and the Call Center does. It helps our new members get results quicker and puts money in their pocket. Again, I apologize to Lora and any other group that does practice this. I would change my post but I don't have the edit option for some reason.
  8. PNL Travel

    PNL Travel New Member

    Hi Harold,

    Thanks for the correction, I really wasn't trying to put you on the spot, I was just letting you know!

    Our group (like yours) does let you 'keep' any sales that are below your level of entry, it's our way of getting you off to a fast start!


    It is best to get started at the highest level possible when starting your business. It will save you money on the package price vs. upgrading. You also get a better travel package. There are several vacations that are only available one time if you go with the Basic (Level 1) package.

    As others here have said, there may be other advantages to starting at the higher level. It all depends on the group that Ryan and Melissa are in. I do not know who they are but I am sure that they would be happy to explain all of the advantages to you.

    There is a BOD product call Thursday night. If you ask the directors that you are talking to about the product call I am sure that they will get you on that call.

    I wish you the best!

  9. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    Quoting: hsimpsonjr"keep your level one sales if you sign up at level 2" plan which is apparently approved by the BOD. Lora alerted me to this and I appologize to her and anyone else who uses this option. I

    Hi Bear

    Can you explain what you mean? Are you saying that there is no 2 up?

  10. screamingeagle

    screamingeagle New Member

    Wow! I'm simply overwhelmed by all the responses, all of your are so absolutely awesome!

    Now, I need the grab the ball and run with all my might! [​IMG]
  11. roger

    roger New Member

    We're here to help, screeeeam!


  12. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    what it means is that if you sign up at the higher levels (level 2 or 3) you are rewarded for it by being able to keep any commissions and members that come in at levels lower than the one you signed up at. So, if you sign up at level 2 you would be able to keep all of your level 1 sales and NOT pass any of those sales up to your director. You are only required to pass up the first 2 level 2 sales to your director. SO, is your first 10 sales were level 1 sales then you would pocket that $10,000 immediately. This is one way the teams that do this make it easier for new members to generate money quickly.
  13. tomcha

    tomcha New Member

    It goes like this.

    Scenario 1: You sign up as a Level 1.
    Need to pass up two sales (any level) then you start earning commissions.

    Scenario 2: You sign up as a Level 2.
    You get to keep all Level 1 sales commission no matter what, even before passing up your training sales.
    Your training sales are two sales of Level 2 and/or 3.

    Scenario 3: You sign up as a Level 3.
    You get to keep all Level 1 and Level 2 sales commissions no matter what, even before passing up your training sales.
    Your training sales are two sales of Level 3.

    Of course, as Harold mentioned, this applies to only some of groups. Coastal Wealth Builders is one and the WeCloseYourSales is another.

    The system is very beneficial to those who just joined and have yet to make their two training sales. But make no mistake about it, it is a tremendous selling point to new prospects when they are made to understand the power of this system. They'll quickly see that joining with a group that has this system in place will get them into profit mode a lot quicker (even with the first sale if you join at Level 2 or 3).

  14. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    Thomas is a good example of this at work. He was my very first sale and he came in at level 1. Because I came in at level 2 I got to keep his commission and it was appreciated greatly! The next day I got a level 2 sale that was my first pass up qualifying sale. A month or so later Thomas realized that he wanted to upgrade to level 2 so he could also make those level 1 commissions immediately and so he upgraded and he was my final qualifying sale which made me a level 2 director.
  15. tomcha

    tomcha New Member

    You're welcome. [​IMG]
  16. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    Just a small point to clarify..

    If you are working with a director who follows the traditional model (eg 2 sales at the level you came in at) do get the advantage of keeping the commisions at the level/s below you BUT as you are not a released director yet, you can't order the packages for those sales nor take them onto your team and train them to earn their 2 up commissions. That can be a little complicated, so you really need to trust your director or system to send you down the commission portion on that lower level sale.

    Different directors or groups use the other model. If you are interested in one over the other, ask your directors about it. Most of us have the ability to be flexible, at least within the CSG I know directors can choose either/or.

    Please excuse me if the call centre has a different policy for some reason!

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
  17. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    because the call center keeps track of all of our sales through computer and mails out our packages for us we don't have to worry about that. They keep up with what sales and commissions go to what new member. For example, the call center made a level 1 sale for one of my new members yesterday. She joined at level 2 so she will get the commission and the member. The Call center computer told the salesexecutive that she was a level 2 member and that she gets to keep this sale instead of passing it up to me. They will mail the package for her to her new signup and SHE and MYSELF can start training him so he can start making sales. We don't have to worry about ordering the packages or even collecting the money. The call center does that for us and sends us a check as soon as the money gets to them. No waiting until the end of the month or anything like that. All of this allows us to leverage our time and concentrate on training new members.
  18. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    I am very familiar with how the call centre works on that administrative level and what the marketing copy is. I personally have to go to the bank once a week to cash my cheques anyhow (as do you, I assume unless the call centre offers direct deposit), so I really don't see the time savings. I get paid directly by my clients so I don't have to wait until the end of the month either. Usually, people will send funds via money order or pay with a credit card online through my website. Instructions for either method are detailed on my site.

    All my sales are also tracked through the computer with the CSG system. I do not stock or mail out packages either.

    So then, who's name is actually on that new level 1 members release? Technically, I believe it should be yours? Or does Hoyt Farmer get listed on all releases as the Director who is the first upline?

    I'm sorry, but as for leveraging your time, I must say that I have quite a bit of leverage and time freedom with the system that I utilize as well. For example, I have been very busy this past week preparing to move. My advertising campaign is busy working away for me and sending people to my online information tour. I have had several prospects walk through the system and contact me via phone and email this week. In fact, I do not make first contact at all, ever- and never have. The serious prospects will contact me first, so I don't waste any of my valuable time. I have clients on our live Global Theatre presentation this morning as my movers are coming, and they will get their questions answered. If they are satisfied that they have all the information they need, they will just pop over to my website and make their payment. I get paid straight away, the money comes as soon as they send it directly to me- so I see that might actually be faster. Happens all the time, and I keep full commission on the sales. It really doesn't take very much time at all!

    From what I understand, many in your group speak with prospects before they join anyhow. I do understand this, anyone considering a business opportunity who is intellegent will in fact want to know with whom it is they are trusting to lead them before they put thier money out.

    So, try as I may, I really don't see the so called advantages of the call centre. I don't "sell" anything, I merely answer questions and point people to information they request. My system does great majority of the telling and explaining for me. My sales are closed by our live question and answer calls (and they are very different from the BOD ones) or our Global Theatre presentations which are a unique and cutting edge use of technology by the CSG. I have to go to the bank and post office anyhow, just like I have to go to the grocery store.

    My comment about the call centre was that I did not know if they provided their members with flexibility to make the choice that is best for them. From your answer, I gather that in fact people can't make that choice with your system? My choice was to take the directors release on the second sale and get into full commissions right away. This is because the training process is the very same no matter which level someone comes in at. It worked very well for me. I had the option of going the other route, however.

    Jani Teeter
    L3, CSG
  19. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    The choice is actually up to the director but everyone I know feels that being able to make those level one commissions immediately is the best option that will put money in the new members pocket quicker than passing up the first two sales of any level. The real proof is the increase of level 2 or 3 signups that we are seeing through the call center. This option is working GREAT for us.

    It's great that you don't stock or mail out packages. Does that mean that CSG orders and sends out the package for you or do you have to send the money for that person's package and their address to the shipping center to get their package drop shipped to them?

    Hoyt's name is NOT on the packages sent out. He keeps them in stock at the call center office and as soon as a sale is made that package goes out. When the new member get the package the will fill in the Coastal application in with the correct director and upline director who is NOT Hoyt, ever.

    Quoting: matiasmommyFrom what I understand, many in your group speak with prospects before they join anyhow. I do understand this, anyone considering a business opportunity who is intellegent will in fact want to know with whom it is they are trusting to lead them before they put thier money out.

    Now, Jani, that sounds like you just called lots of people who use the call callcenter "unintelligent" and I really don't appreciate that or think that you would do something as offensive as that considering that you are a successful Coastal director. My very first signup, Thomas Cha,is a member of this forum and I think you can tell by his posts that he is VERY intelligent and I didn't speak with him one single time before he signed up. I immediately called him and started the training process right after he contacted the call center, meaning the very same day just a couple of hours after he had joined. The time saved was when he called the call center and learned how it works from our sales executives while I was at work. That, to me, is absolutely amazing. That has happened to me numerous times since then. Do I talk to prospects? Of course I do if they want to talk to me. If I see a person has come to my website more than one or two times I will call them to see if I can answer any questions. But, if they don't contact me it certainly doesn't mean they are unintelligent.

    The call center isn't for everybody. It's good points are that we offer the exact same thing that every other Coastal team offers. The wonderful Coastal Vacations Packages and GREAT training but we also offer the call center itself which means you have the amazing option of letting the professionals at the call center present the business to your prospects for you while you focus on training your new members and advertising. That's it. Like I said, it's not for everybody but it is for a LOT of people because they are joining like CRAZY!
  20. roger

    roger New Member

    To add to Harold's point, the God's honest truth is I had one gentleman who not only did I NOT speak with but he joined my business WITHOUT even CALLING the Call Center.

    He is an entrepreneur, he runs his own commercial cleaning business with no less than 4 employees and he's a busy man. As an intelligent business person he understood our amazing concept and the power of leverage.

    While that obviously doesn't happen all the time, it happens more than you may think.

    And it could happen to you.



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