Costal Commissions

Discussion in 'Coastal Vacations' started by SAS78, May 19, 2007.

  1. SAS78

    SAS78 New Member

    Hello All!

    I am in the process of researching the Costal Business Opportunity. I can't believe how much information is out there once you start looking ~ both really good and really bad...

    I am still a little fuzzy on how the commission works. If a Level 1 package sells for just over $1200. how can the commission be $1000??
     
  2. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    Very good question! From my understanding, it is because of the arrangements the coastal board of directors has with the travel providers.

    I'm glad to see you are doing your homework- I did a ton of research as well before I started my buisness. As with anything, check and verify your source- and analyze the content of what you are reading. I couldn't find the "hole in the boat" so I started my business last September. I'm doing well and I LOVE it! Really, the packages are wonderful- but I'm more surprized and delighted by the wonderful people I meet and work with in this business.

    The providers WANT us to market and USE the packages- they loose money with empty rooms. We keep the commissions that we do, because the wholesale amount of the packages is basically at cost. The providers want us to go to their establishments, because they know we will buy things in the gift shoppe, drink at the bar, play at the casino etc etc. They don't loose money, but they don't make the same profit margin. That is OK, we go and have a great time, take pictures etc and they have invaluable word of mouth advertising.

    I hope that helps!

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
     
  3. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    Hi SAS78!

    The main reason we can make those HUGE commissions is simply because the package is worth so much more than what we pay for it. The estimated value of level 1 is over $15,000 so when someone pays $1,295 (or $1,995 with our call center) they know they are getting a travel package worth WAY more than what they are paying for it and it's a lifetime membership on top of that.

    As you do your research you will find there are several different teams or groups to choose from. Make sure and do your research on each team carefully. There are several teams represented on this forum, all of which would be good choices. I belong to the Coastal Sales Center otherwise known as the WeCloseYourSales Call Center. We have a call center staffed with sales executives who present the business for us, do follow up calls for us and then actually close the sales for us and then send us a check. All we do is advertise the toll free call center number with our member ID and then we train our new members. If you are someone who doesn't like selling or you feel selling isn't one of your strong points then our team might be a great option for you.

    If you are someone who likes talking to people and closing the sale then the call center might not be exactly what you want. There are other great teams like Coastal Synergy Group and Coastal Wealth Builders and others that will offer you great training and support. Make sure and find a director that fits your personality because that is the most important thing. You will be working with your director very closely so you want to make sure you have a good match. Pretty much everyone on this forum is a good director so if you choose one of us you won't go wrong.
     
  4. decker2006

    decker2006 New Member

    The beauty of the call center is that you can run your business both ways. There is phone sales training offered with the Call Center system which includes scripts, recorded training, etc. Granted, it is not the in-depth lead system that other groups may run, but that is just because our training focuses on marketing and advertising, not calling leads. But just becasue you are with the call center does not mean you cannot incorporate calling leads in to your business.

    The call center is an extremely attractive option for those who do not have the time for calling leads and following up. This is especially true when you first start out - when maybe you don't know all the answers about the business, it is nice to defer to our professionals.


    Noreen
     
  5. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    The weak point of the call centre's systems (there is more then one call centre) however, is actually GETTING the people opt in and then to make the first call into the centre. I do believe there is now a centre that makes initial outgoing calls.. perhaps someone here can speak up if they are involved in them?

    The teams in place that DO make calls to people- they do NOT generally advocate cold calling and many also have professional tools in place for closing sales and accepting payments online. Most people in Coastal do NOT have any "sales" background. This is actually seen as an advantage- as we are NOT traditional, high pressure, chase around sales persons but rather, information tour guides. I have found, in my experience- that having a sales background is in fact a DIS-advantage in many cases. This is because our approach is so different and really "peoples needs focused" rather then "hurry up and close the sale and move on" focused that often salespeople have a hard time breaking out of those habits.

    Really, no-one in this business wherever they land is a "salesperson"- what we DO all do is direct people to information they request and answer their questions.

    Know what you want to do- if you have experience or talent in the marketing arena- I would most definately recommend the call centres. That is where you will spend much of your time and energy- so if you already have experience and knowledge you will fare well there and quickly. If on the other hand, you don't have experience and knowledge of creative marketing on and/or offline you will need to make up the difference in budget- in most cases.

    There are some directors in both different scenarios that actually help their team members out with different (ie less popular) marketing methods and some even will purchase advertising campaigns for you.

    As discussed on other areas of this board, marketing via traditional online methods with Coastal is becomming very popular and recently has become significantly more expensive. So, people that have an interest in marketing are investigating other avenues. Its VERY exciting to do- but there is a learning curve and it takes that all important time, dedication and patience! Getting into search engines based on merit and not pay per click is neither fast nor simple- but WORTH the effort! I'm just starting to explore that avenue- its really a lot of fun- but I don't expect to see the kind of results I am looking for for 6-12 months.

    Have fun doing your homework!

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
     
  6. Sbowman

    Sbowman New Member

    Jani--as soon as we have an opt in with the call center (WCYS), we have the phone # and can make that call. We don't have to wait for them to call the center, if we chose, and we are notified immediately when someone opts in. That is a strong point in my mind. This forum is not for pointing out "weak" points of anyone's group--it's for information and help with questions.

    Shelby
     
  7. CoastalToday

    CoastalToday New Member

    Hi Jani,

    Yes, there is a Closing Center that makes outbound calls and I am a member. So, I guess I'll speak up in response to your request. [​IMG] (and, of course, to let others view my signature link, LOL!) So, in fact, the Coastal Closers are able to address the potential problem of whether or not people will actually opt in to call.

    It really is a great option to offer, because (as you already said) new associates have the best of both worlds!

    However, I also agree with you that one-on-one is VERY important for those who desire that method of learning to succeed in Coastal. Therefore, like you, I do offer personal mentoring and unique tools for new members - and, of course, the initial leads that help them to build their Coastal business. You're right, it truly does make a difference to have a Director who will make themselves available for those who want or need them.

    But, for those who want to run on their own to promote the Coastal opportunity with a Closing Center, then there is that advantage as well.

    Shelby is correct, this forum is for useful information and answers to questions, and (to be honest) it is also a very good avenue for attracting people who are interested in Coastal Vacations.

    Consquently, I think we all have something to give each other as well as provide a valuable perspective on Coastal Vacations in general.

    To all of our success!

    Tonya Kopp
    Platinum Director
    Coastal Vacations

    P.S. Jani, your site is great and I know you will do very well with your SEO goals!
     
  8. cashwealth

    cashwealth Guest

    Hi SAS78!

    Yep, there is several different groups marketing Coastal
    Vacations. All of us are dedicated to this business. Make
    sure you do your legwork. Don't be shy!!! Ask and Ask again.

    The most important considerations in any business are
    Marketing, Lead Production, Support, Integrity and
    long term Cost.

    WE provide all the tools, and we DON'T need to charge
    a DIME extra for it, because Our success is based upon
    YOUR success. Support and Team work. Choose your partners wisely, take control of your business, and benefits will naturally follow.


    Talk to me personally and let me get you to the CORE
    of what is considered the very Best System in the
    entire Nation right now. Also the Best international home
    based business opportunity on and off the net.
    Cheers,

    cw
     
  9. SAS78

    SAS78 New Member

    Hello Everyone ~ thank you for all of the helpful information. It's funny, I didn't go looking for Costal, I saw a link while on another site and boom, I then started to find myself researching the opportunity. To be honest, I had never even heard of Coastal before beginning my research....is that strange?

    I'm no stranger to the Direct Sales Business, I have (still am) involved with The Pampered Chef, however there is a saturation point in the market which makes sales difficult at times.... Nevertheless I am curious about the Coastal business. There is a director in Vancouver (I'm from Canada) who I've been chatting with over e-mail, she's been great thus far answering my MILLION questions. I guess like Jani said, I'm looking for the "hole in the boat"... (espectially considering all of the negative/'scam' postings that I've read.

    Anyways, thanks again, I'm sure I'll have more questions for everyone!
     
  10. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    No, its not strange at all! Many, if not MOST people have NEVER heard of Coastal. That is why our market is huge and pretty well completely untapped!

    Its a good thing, that is why we are in the right business at the right time. People WANT our product- it is the largest industry in the world. People want to save money- who doesn't?

    I'm Canadian too.. my director is Annette Kennedy- she is out in BC as well! I do find the great majority of my team members are in the USA- as we work on our phone and computer it doesn't matter.

    Congrats on doing your homework! Well worth the time and trouble, to really know that this is the business you are looking for! I was in pampered chef too- love cooking. Great products, but you are right- lots of reps and competing companies not to mention fancy kitchen stores.

    Have fun!

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
     
  11. OnlineMoney24 7

    OnlineMoney24 7 New Member

    Quoting: SAS78I'm looking for the "hole in the boat"... (espectially considering all of the negative/'scam' postings that I've read.

    Hey SAS78,

    I was doing the same thing when I was first looking into Coastal Vacations. But what you have to keep in mind, every business has complaints or negative feedback. Type in Pampered Chef complaints in google and you will find negative feedback. If you look for it, you will find it. But also, if you look for the good stuff a business has to offer you will find that as well.

    With my research I weighed the pros and cons for Coastal and decided that the pros were positive enough for me to take the plunge. And I haven't looked back ever since. There is a lot of opportunity available with Coastal.

    Goodluck!

    Jat
     
  12. Lanna

    Lanna New Member

    Quoting: SAS78I am in the process of researching the Costal Business Opportunity. I can't believe how much information is out there once you start looking ~ both really good and really bad...

    I am still a little fuzzy on how the commission works. If a Level 1 package sells for just over $1200. how can the commission be $1000??

    Do your due diligence in researching Coastal Vacations. There are a lot of groups out there that you can join. As with any business or anything, there is not any one thing that works for everybody. When you find bad "reviews" remember it is not with Coastal Vacations itself, it is mostly with individual directors. Each director is the owner of their own business. When my husband and I joined initially we did not research all that we should have. We paid for the decision that we made and after some trying months we joined with another group and are very excited and happy about our decision. We wish we would have joined with them initially. Ask all of the questions that you can think of when you are talking with a Coastal director and then research the information that is given to you. That is where we lacked in making our decision.

    As far as the commission, we do not have all of the overhead that a lot of businesses have so, that is why we are able to make the commissions we do. If you join the "traditional" way, yes the commission is $1,000 in your pocket and $295 for the package. If you join with the WCYS call center the cost for the package is $1,995. You still profit $1,000, the package is still $295, but the call center makes $795. The call center has a vested interest in your business and success because every time you make money, they make money.

    Check out all of the different Coastal groups and find YOUR fit.

    Best of luck,
    Lanna

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  13. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    Hi Lanna!

    Nice to see you here! Interesting to see you went the other way around. In my experience, it is more common for people to come to me FROM the call centre, after diligently trying the various marketing methods and not having luck with people calling in. I know people who have literally spent THOUSANDS of dollars and lots of hours with free methods and gotten just a few opts ins.

    So, they have then gone out and offered to share their commissions with an appointment setter who is then supposed to call people.

    My understanding is that most people with WCYS that are really successful DO call people.

    Its interesting for me to see that you have found a fit for yourself there, though. I say just do whatever works- I know for ME, it is invaluable to connect with and choose my team members myself. It saves me a lot of frustration when I get to the one on one training- I select the people that I work with so that I know they have the qualities that I look for and I know that I can give them what they need for thier success!

    Its wonderful to be able to be at home full time and self employed- you are right- having been exposed to more traditional businesses, its GREAT to not only have low overhead, but to have the incredible tax write offs!


    Best of SUCCESS to you!

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
     
  14. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    We can all be honest and say that people leave groups for other groups all of the time. It's great that we have that option in Coastal. It's true with our group as it is with all others, some will try their hardest and never become successful. Why? I don't know. They might be doing all of the right things but for some reason it just isn't working for them. The question is will they stick out the hard times to make it to the good times. Some will and some won't. This happens in ALL businesses. Hopfully, we can help our personal members stick out the bad times if they have them.
     
  15. Lanna

    Lanna New Member

    Hi matiasmommy,
    In our experience with CWB my husband and I were both calling people all day long and never getting anywhere. We would be able to to the qualifying call and when it came time to follow up with them, they would fall off of the face of the earth. With the WCYS center, we do call people but it is not to "sell" them anything. We call people to introduce ourselves and find out about them. When they see were are not trying to "sell" them anything all of that tension is resovled. We spent a lot on leads that did not pan out with CWB. We have alternate means of advertising now instead of buying leads. We still get to be very involved with "choosing" who we work with.

    We just found what worked for us. That does not mean that what works for us works for everyone. My husband is an RN and owner of his own custom picture frame business. He is now able to stay at home and just work Coastal. I have been able to stay at home for years but needed to be able to help support our family so, I decided to go to school to be a medical transcriptionist. I later started my own MT business and stayed very busy with that but it was taking my time away from the reason I wanted to be at home, our kids. Then we both decided that there had to be a better way and we started looking to see what was out there and that is when we found Coastal (the first time). It just did not work for us doing it that way. We are still owners of our Coastal business affiliated with CWB. That gives us the ability to offer the traditional way or the sales center way. Now, our team members get to decide which way works for them. Everything out there has pros and cons you just have to decide which has more pros and go for it.

    Lanna
     
  16. Lanna

    Lanna New Member

    Quoting: hsimpsonjr
    We can all be honest and say that people leave groups for other groups all of the time. It's great that we have that option in Coastal. It's true with our group as it is with all others, some will try their hardest and never become successful. Why? I don't know. They might be doing all of the right things but for some reason it just isn't working for them. The question is will they stick out the hard times to make it to the good times. Some will and some won't. This happens in ALL businesses. Hopfully, we can help our personal members stick out the bad times if they have them.

    Well said hsimpsonjr.

    Lanna
     
  17. Lanna

    Lanna New Member

    Quoting: LannaIf you join the "traditional" way, yes the commission is $1,000 in your pocket and $295 for the package. If you join with the WCYS call center the cost for the package is $1,995. You still profit $1,000, the package is still $295, but the call center makes $795. The call center has a vested interest in your business and success because every time you make money, they make money.

    I just wanted to fix my typo on this. Instead of $795 for the call center, it is $700. I got carried away and just noticed the amount that I typed.

    Lanna
     
  18. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    Except.. I can't speak for CWB.. but I do know that when I call people, I'm not trying to "sell" them anything either!

    I usually merely introduce myself, get to know them and point them to the information online they request. Then I follow up to answer their questions and show them more information as they request or take them to a live event.

    I don't chase people around. In fact, quite often people are contacting ME before I ever get time to call them first!

    Its interesting to note that different systems work for different people. I personally can't support the call centre model, but I know that some people are very successful with it. My position is that the way other groups do it (which btw is not the "traditional" coastal model at all!) means that we are not all in direct competition with each other in marketing areas. Either way, the more groups the merrier, as I believe that people should be able to choose for themseves. Which is great, as far as I am concerned, everyone SHOULD be in Coastal, if they enjoy travel!


    Cheers

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
     
  19. Lanna

    Lanna New Member

    I am glad you are pleased with the choice that you have made dealing with Coastal. I am only explaining our experience, not anyone elses. This is not a "mine is better than your's" type thing. This is our (my husband's and mine) experience which is the only perspective that I can explain. We know what we have went through and dealt with. BTW, what I meant by the "traditional" way is the way that CWB and CSG generally work their businesses: Buying leads and calling them. I am not here to offend anyone, just to learn from others and offer my opinions when requested.

    Lanna Lucas
     
  20. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    I wasn't trying to offend you Lanna- only doing the same thing and sharing my experiences. I'm truly happy for you that you have found something that works for YOU. I think we can all admit that not everything works for everybody- but COASTAL does WORK. Its all about finding what works for YOU.

    I simply advocate looking carefully, beyond marketing messages. But I have to correct you- that "traditional" way you are speaking of-buying leads and calling them- is NOT how Coastal was started and operated for many, MANY years! I also happen to know that call centre people often buy leads and call them- if not personally, then via a 3rd party.

    The truth really is, that ALL of the various advertising options are available to ALL of us- there is NO secret, no magic formula for success, no special feature that anyone else doesn't or can't have. I realize, however that the big strength of the call centres ARE the marketing- that is NOT an easy thing to do. Its not a major industry for no reason, and I think the tools provided are great! My concern is that its very competitive when there are many fish swimming in the same pools, and many people that I have spoken to in the past 2 years have really struggled with it. I just think it rather deceptive to make that part of the coastal business out as "easier" then picking up the phone to call people that have asked for information. I don't cold call anyone, though the marketing materials would have it appear that way.

    I for one, do NOT advocatate one and only one method of marketing. I DO teach people how to connect with people- I think that at days end this is a people business. Its absolutely necessary- even though I might make their first 2 sales for them (using the CSG tools to get them the information so they make the decision to start and ask the question) that people be equiped to work with people. They will train them, afterall!

    All this business about "asking people for money"- I've never heard or been taught that. People simply ask me HOW they get started and I point them to my website. Its not hard, its not difficult. I get paid, the full amount on the sale.

    Its really about what you PERCEIVE. I'm sorry that your experience before the call centre was not rosy. I wonder though, if the problem there was actually the leadership and not the system? Though I can't speak for the CWB system- my understanding is that it is the OLD version of the CSG's?

    At any rate, I'm really glad to hear there is a "fit" for you at WCYS. Its great that you did NOT give up on Coastal, but found a system that worked for YOU!

    Cheers

    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
     

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