For those starting in Affiliate Marketing.

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by thomnel53, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. thomnel53

    thomnel53 New Member

    I heard a story once obout a man who placed an ad in several newspapers selling copper engravings of Abraham Lincoln for $1. When the people who saw the ad and wanted to buy one sent in thier dollar to the address, they later got a penny in the mail from the man.

    I don't know if this is true or just an urban legend. I thought of it the other night though, as I looked around clickbank for possible products to promote.

    I came across a product which believe it or not promised to cure all diseases, including cancer in one minute. I don't know what the product is, if it's just a gimmick to build a list, or what. I would be willing to bet that it does not cure cancer though.

    What I think disturbed me the most is that the total gravity for the thing was over 4000. That made me think of the story from before, and I wondered if some people think we must check our conscience at the door when we become an internet marketer.

    I'm not saying that every thing you push has to be the best product on the market in that industry. I understand salesmanship, but I don't want to see us become like the used car salesman that everyone in town hates to go to and only does so when they are desperate.

    Most people don't know affiliate marketing even exist. They have probably bought through one of us and never known. I would hate to see us become the people everyone tries to avoid and no one trusts.

    Just a thought.
     
  2. getagrip

    getagrip Gold Member

    thomnel53: That made me think of the story from before, and I wondered if some people think we must check our conscience at the door when we become an internet marketer.
    I'm really glad to hear you say that. Unfortunately, a lot of affiliate marketers don't seem to have any ethics - they lie, copy, cheat, steal, and market products they know are bogus. Not everyone has to be that way - we can choose to do our due dilegence and market only quality products we truly believe will help people.
     
  3. VictoriaNTC

    VictoriaNTC Silver Member

    Great Post, both of you!

    I would be interested in looking at this product.
    Just curious.

    You get what you think about whether wanted or not.
    So, it makes perfect sense to be ethical.

    For if a marketer or anyone else cheats or hurts another, she/he would have to think about it (a little, at least) to do it in the first place.

    Like what goes around comes around.[​IMG]

    Victoria
     
  4. ateamfuntimer

    ateamfuntimer New Member

    Integrity is my biggest catch word. There are many marketers that do things that definitely hurt affiliate marketing. Unfortunately that is the nature of any business. There will be honest people as well as those not so honest. I cant speak for anyone else but as far as how I run my business I try my bes to do onto others as Id like them to do onto me. I was part of an organization that was making me consistently $1500 a month and had to leave as I felt that some of their practices werent of the highest integrity. Yes losing the money hurt but my piece of mind is worth a heck of a lot more then $1500.

    I will say that as the economy has changed and jobs arent as readily available as they used to be the home based business arena has been given a second look by many that didnt see it as a viable option in the past. 20 years ago I was in Amway and had trouble in the beginning getting people to believe it was a "real" business. Well just a few weeks ago I saw a Mary Kay advertisement on tv right after I saw an Amway and then an Avon commercial. As the saying goes "You have come a long way baby". Working from home in network and affiliate marketing is here to stay and will continue to grow and flourish.
     
  5. StuartOnline

    StuartOnline New Member

    Hi everyone,
    This is my first post to introduce myself.
    I agree with thomnel53 that there are tooooo many scam artists out there and the only way to combat that is to be the real deal.
    If there is such a thing as bad karma a lot of people have got it coming!!
    For me, I just want to start an ethical, helpful online business sharing ideas, knowledge and opportunities with like minded people.
    I wish us all good luck.
    Stu
     
  6. A8ch

    A8ch Gold Member

    The above story (true or false) is certainly interesting. Even though the actual product may not have been what buyers expected, the "copper engraving" description is certainly accurate. But it does raise the question of ethical standards as it relates to an expectation of fairness.

    thomnel53: I wondered if some people think we must check our conscience at the door when we become an internet marketer.
    As internet marketers, or as people in general, we should never check our conscience at the door. It is our moral compass. It gives us perspective, boundaries and direction. These elements are critical to the guidance system we use to monitor ourselves.

    Without conscience we would descend into chaos!

    Hermas
     
  7. cherie27

    cherie27 New Member

    Interesting post.

    Whether the internet marketer have conscience or not, it is up to the buyer to believe. For those who don't believe, most probably they won't buy. Even in the real world, there are cases like that.
     
  8. Roseanne

    Roseanne New Member

    Eventually, all AM will pay by not adhering to an ethic standard. Their reputation will be ruined on the long run if they offer products that don't deliver what they promise. For me, it is about integrity, and trustworthyness because I would like to be around for a long time.[​IMG]
     
  9. Newbie Shield

    Newbie Shield Gold Member

    Integrity is a cornerstone of my personal philosophy and has been since day one.

    Some promote products that they obviously know little or nothing about. Some promote products that they know are of low quality.

    Some do the same with an entire topic.

    Some are outright crooks.

    The thing I don't get is that if they would only redirect that energy into something beneficial, they'd be above board, they'd help others, and they would likely prosper more as well as for a longer period of time. Some of them would even sleep better at night.

    It's a complete mystery.

    ~Newbie Shield~
     
  10. AxelG

    AxelG Guest

    As long as I do network marketing I never met anybody making a living with an affiliate program, beside the one who started with it.

    You are in competition with hundreds or thousands of people on the same program and why on earth do you think all the customers will buy on your site?

    So there are some affiliate programs where you have to click a link, visit a site for 30 seconds and then go to the next one. Well some companies pay as much as 5 cent for a click, but most 1 cent or less.

    If you like to earn $1,000 you need to click 20,000 sites for 5 cent or 100,000 sites for 1 cent per site. As you have to stay at least 30 seconds on each site, you will need 833.333 hours to earn $1,000 with click programs paying 1 cent per site.
    Well at least you can make some income from that if you work 8 hours per day on that if not -- well most of these companies have terms & policies that say: we can terminate your account at any time for any reason! - Guess why? If you make too much money they just can cancel your account and your money is gone and you can do nothing about it, as you agreed to it when you signed up!
     
  11. thomnel53

    thomnel53 New Member

    I'm not sure what axel g is referring to, it sounds like he is talking more about the traffic sites that promise to send you more traffic if you visit other sites. Not sure.

    As far as people making a living as an affiliate, lots of people do. Some do it with a blog, some do it with a forum like the one you are on now. Others find something they enjoy talking about anyway and just talk about it, with a website. Most affiliate programs pay you per sale, not per click, although some like insurance programs do pay for just quotes.

    The thing is, if it's not for you that doesn't mean it's not for others. The important thing to remember is that no matter what form of online business you choose, or what program you choose to learn that form with, it all comes down to you. If you don't work it does not matter how good the program is, you will fail.

    Then you will most likely post a message somewhere saying that all online programs are frauds even though the program didn't fail, you did.
     
  12. Nicky_C

    Nicky_C New Member

    I am fairly new to affiliate marketing and I believe that checking your morals at the door for any product one would endorse would be a foolish idea.

    Prior to starting my new journey into internet marketing I was a salesman (I'm 22 and have been selling products since I was 18 and have had a lot of success.) In any sales job I had experience with I could always tell how well I'd do before I sold one product by how I felt about the product. If you like a product you are more likely to do the research, have more knowledge then your competetors, and be more sincere with your sales pitch. As a general rule I do not endorse any product that I would not sell to my family or friends.

    I've been in affiliate marketing for a month now and have already had my first few sales. I only pitch products that I have done research on and would like to use myself. My most successful product so far has been the affiliate marketing program that I used to learn how to internet market... go figure.

    Best of luck to all of you and remember that you may earn a little success selling bad products, but you have to live with your conscious the rest of your life. I find much more enjoyment in my work knowing I am helping others with everyday problems.
     
  13. mountainmom5

    mountainmom5 Gold Member

    AxelG: I never met anybody making a living with an affiliate program, beside the one who started with it.
    ??[​IMG]

    I am not sure what you are referring to with the clicks thing, but yes, people DO make money with affiliate marketing - same as in network marketing - only with AM, you don't have to deal with people directly in order to make the residual income...you only make the initial commission off the products.

    Been there - done both... [​IMG]
     
  14. AllieKLong

    AllieKLong New Member

    I don't think it's right to promote a product that's a scam or gimmick. Think about when you first started out in affiliate marketing. Did you want to buy a scam product from an affiliate who was just being greedy? It's better to promote quality products rather than bad products. And people tend to know if the product you are promoting is a scam or not just because of things they have heard and seen all over the internet.
     
  15. IMoneyReview

    IMoneyReview New Member

    Affiliate marketing can be a lot of work from the start until you get your work out there. It does not mean that it is necessarily a scam or that it is not legit. It takes a few months of set up, marketing, article writing, and promoting the product you're selling. It can become tedious and also frustrating, but if you stick with it you can make a profit.

    I tried promoting quite a few different products online, but did not make a cent. Although I did not make any money, I stuck with it and now am doing quite well for myself. It is very dependent on the product that you're promoting and the supply and demand of the product. The best way to know if a product is legit or a scam is to research the product thoroughly, or if you have a lot of knowledge in a particular field; create your own product. It's a matter of how much time and effort you want to put into your success. It is very possible to make an income with affiliate marketing.
     
  16. Newbie Shield

    Newbie Shield Gold Member

    AxelG: As long as I do network marketing I never met anybody making a living with an affiliate program, beside the one who started with it.
    Hi Axel and welcome to the forum.

    Lot's of folks - including many on this very forum - do quite well with Affiliate Marketing. It's been my experience that most here view it as the most effective and desirable way to make money online.

    No need to create your own product unless you feel inclined to do so. Plenty make a good living doing nothing but Affiliate Marketing.

    If you stick around on this forum, you'll find that most people prefer Affiliate Marketing over anything else and for good reason.

    AxelG: You are in competition with hundreds or thousands of people on the same program and why on earth do you think all the customers will buy on your site?
    That only happens after a product has been on the market for a while or can be had from a popular site such as Best Buy, Walmart, or similar.

    Furthermore, even if a product is offered by many, folks may buy from your site if you have loyal readers that trust your recommendations - however strong or subtle your call to action may be.

    AxelG: So there are some affiliate programs where you have to click a link, visit a site for 30 seconds and then go to the next one. Well some companies pay as much as 5 cent for a click, but most 1 cent or less.
    It sounds like you may be confusing Affiliate Marketing with "Get Paid To Surf" programs. Get Paid To Surf Programs do not pay well and are not worth the time and effort. They strike me as sleazy setups created by sleazy founders.

    Data Entry offers and Survey Programs are mostly scams as well.

    Same is true with most MLM programs.

    So what's left? Affiliate marketing, sponsors, ad networks such as Google Adsense, list building, creating and selling your own products, providing services, playing the stock market, and not much else.

    You might consider learning everything you can about the methods I've mentioned in the paragraph above in regards to making money online.

    You can be an affiliate for just about anything you can think of. It'll open a whole new world for you and it's very much worth investigating.

    Good luck,

    ~Newbie Shield~
     

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