The Problem With Coastal...

Discussion in 'Coastal Vacations' started by roger, Apr 21, 2007.

  1. roger

    roger New Member

    If you're looking at joining Coastal Vacations, you should know there was an important Members-Only conference call on Saturday April 21st for the Call Center team.

    We Close Your Sales (WCYS) announced it would be offering an "entry level" product to those who are interested in starting a home based business but don't have the funds to start at $1995. It was noted this scenario happens to many current WCYS members.

    Once the sales professionals at the Call Center establish this, a secondary, brief presentation is made for a product that serves the luxury condo market offering week-long lavish stays for no more than $650/wk. All members have access to 3,000+ beautiful condos from around the world.

    As Harold noted in another post, this is not a Coastal Vacations product. However, all inventory can be viewed online and all bookings can be made online. The member will be dealing with a licensed and bonded travel agent and all vendors have a 10 year or more proven track record. The cost to access all of this is $795.

    Once you decide to join at the $795 entry level you can collect a $300 commission on all prospects who also choose this product under you; it becomes very interesting financially.

    Current Directors have automatically grandfathered into the program and do not have to advertise any differently, as the Travel Package from Coastal Vacations remains the signature product for WCYS and is presented as such.

    Something must be said for the leadership and innovation coming from Hoyt Farmer and the whole Call Center team. Quite simply, they have done it again. I hate to say it but the problem with Coastal's other groups is their perpetual game of "catch up" continues. Again.

    If you are interested in knowing more about the Call Center's innovative and ground breaking move, feel free to contact me.


  2. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    I wish I could right like that![​IMG]
  3. PT Dude

    PT Dude New Member

    Man i bet in person Roger is a real silver tongued
  4. roger

    roger New Member

    Thanks PT.....I think??


  5. joesosa

    joesosa New Member

    HI ALL!,

    Just 2 quick questions... if I join at L1 or L2 and sell L3 memberships, what happens to the commissions for these sales if my Director is an L2 only?...

    And what if I do retail as well, how would being only L1 or L2 affect me in collecting commisions for the L3 packages?


  6. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    It applies to retail sales just as it does any other. If you make a level 3 sale from your advertising and you are a level 2 director you will not be able to order a level 3 package yourself. You will have to get the closest level 3 director to order it for you and they would get the member and the remainder of the commission after you get your $3,000 (if you are with the call center). If you are not with a team that will allow you to keep part of the commission that you are qualilfied for then the level 3 director will get all of the commission and the member. If you are not a director yet it should count as one of your pass up sales towards qualification.
  7. joesosa

    joesosa New Member

    Hi Harols,

    Thanks for the very clear answer. Of course every organisation has its own rules. However I can see it being the way you say it is, to keep people from selling and collecting commisions on L3 without being L3.


    1.- it hurts that after advertising, doing all the work, to finally make the sale, you have to pass up to a Director that has done nothing whatsoever for these particular sales.
    PLUS, if not retail, having to pass up the member!... We're talking about passing up around $26,000! and that is for EACH L3 sale!... wow!

    2.-Being things as they are, the effect that it could bring is making the L2 Director shy, very shy in offering L3 sales, even if any prospects are hot on it.

    3.-NOW, This scenario could become a great motivator for a L2 Director to try for the L3, and to make it easy for this Director allow him/her to keep full commission from L3 sales up to two sales plus any members. This way the selling Director will have enough money (that he sweated for) to jump up to L3.

    Of course, this is just random talk if you will.

    Thanks again Harold.

  8. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    Hi Joe,
    I personally don't promote level 3. If someone asks about it or wants it I will definately give it to them but so far I have only had 2 or 3 people even mention level 3 to me. I think you have to market to a different group if you want to attract level 3 sales on a consistant basis. Since I am a level 2 director that is what I know most about and am most confident promoting. I do not discourage people from signing up on level 3 but I don't push it either because most don't have that much money to begin with. I do want to move up to level 3 but not until I get some other things taken care of.
  9. matiasmommy

    matiasmommy New Member

    Interesting Harold!

    I seem to have more people interested in L3 then anything else.. 2 in the past few weeks have come onboard. Yes, its a stretch for most people- but then again, not at all in comparision to the costs of starting a more traditional business. Maybe its the advertising source that generates those more traditional (business model) thinking people?

    I wonder if that is maybe the LoA in action?? I know that people, if they connect with you will tend to follow your lead.. but I wonder what accounts for the difference here?

    Its interesting to think about though.. I had not even thought before about what may be happening!


    Jani Teeter
    L3 Director, CSG
  10. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    I might be the advertising, I don't know but it doesn't bother me because I am not a level 3 member yet. The guys at the call center always try to sell the highest level they can since their commission is based on that but if they see that a person can't afford the higher level they don't push them into something they can't afford. They would rather them start at the best level for them and then upgrade later on.
  11. jnapier

    jnapier New Member

    It's very interesting that the subject line for this is "the problem with Coastal" and then goes into a sales pitch for a new product at the call center.

    I'd love to know more about it, but I've yet to see anyone provide the details to explain who the name is behind the 10 year proven track record...Roger, can you help us out with that.

    Jay NaPier
    Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
    Coastal Vacations
  12. roger

    roger New Member

    Hi Jay,
    I've been out of the country in Milan, Italy for some R and R, something we all deserve.

    Milan, one of the fashion capitals of the world, is a place to behold. Lots of culture, beautiful architecture, beautiful women and a place......where nobody seems to speak English! [​IMG] but I have to say that was part of the adventure.

    To let you and everyone know, the entry level package - offered exclusively online by the Coastal Call Center - will be rolled out in a couple of weeks. Stay tuned!


  13. sairashab

    sairashab New Member

    Hi y'all, it may sound a dumb question but I can't get hold of what we exactly do. It seems what I pay to join coastal to start my home business is what the directors earn, right? So, it is not that we are selling travel packages, we are just selling these to those who want to start a home based business? I always thought that we just like travel agents sell these packages. I am confused about it. Could someone please help me here?

  14. decker2006

    decker2006 New Member

    Hi Saira,

    We sell a travel club membership. We do not sell individual cruises or trips or anything like that. That is included in one package and the member uses all of the advantages of the travel membership to book their own travel. They will be working with one of our vendors (all of whom are accredited travel agents) to book the trips. So we are not travel agents ourselves. Although some members of coastal are, it is not a requirement. What Coastal has done is put together some incredible membership which retail for $15,000, and you get this Level 1 package for $1,295. A good deal, wouldn't you say? This can be sold as a stand alone retail package and is a very viable income stream - marketing to the travellers, travel agents, etc. You receive $1000 commission for selling a retail Level 1 package. You can see the details of each level on my site.

    As for the business, we offer Level 1 for $1,995, which is what I indicated above plus $700 (ONE time cost) to use our Call Center to help you with your business. You advertise Coastal as a home based business, people call the call center. After qualifying, your commission is $1000 for each level 1 sale. This is of course compensation for advertising the business, which Coastal does not do, we do it for them.

    Does that clear up some of your questions?

  15. sairashab

    sairashab New Member

    So, does this mean we recruit other people to work for coastals? That's what I undertand. I am sorry I am just being dumb [​IMG]
  16. decker2006

    decker2006 New Member

    Personally, I don't like to use the word recruit. It sounds like such hard work!! [​IMG]I like to say that we show others an opportunity they may be looking for as far as a home based business. Also, we don't work for Coastal - we work for ourselves.

  17. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    This is how my director explained it to me. We are sellers of information and that informtation saves us all 75% on our vacations for life. We are NOT sellers of Travel which would put us in a completely different business class. We show people how to save thousands of dollars on their travel and if they want us to, we can show them how to make thousands by selling the packages.
  18. roger

    roger New Member

    Hi Saira,
    If I may suggest, please read this post:

    then read this post:

    This should give you a better idea of what we're about and your role in Coastal Vacations.

    However, it doesn't address all your questions and I can do that if you wish. Feel free to contact me by clicking on the "not a big fan of selling" link below where you'll get direct access to my website, learn more about me and how I can help you.


  19. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    Quoting: decker2006Personally, I don't like to use the word recruit.

    Recently I read that we have a "Divine Appointment" with prospects.
    I thought that was a neat way when talking about recruiting.

  20. sairashab

    sairashab New Member

    hmm... now I get it .. [​IMG] why do we need to work with a call center? do they like talk to all of our customers and do that marketing stuff for us?

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