The Quickest and Easiest Way to Retire Immediately

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by DaveWalters, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member

    I would just like to offer what I have discovered to be the best lifestyle in the world. Anyone who can read what I am writing and is a little adventurous can do it extremely easily....Teach English Overseas. I have spent the last 4 years teaching English in China. Now, I already love teaching, but I am staying here in China teaching because it is a lifestyle choice. I work 16 hours a week (including all out-of-class preparation). I have an upper-middle class income by Chinese standards and have tons of free time. I think most of the people here are looking for something along these lines so I figured I'd share it with those who didn't know about this opportunity. There is a HUGE demand for native English speakers, especially in Asia. It is very easy to find a job through the internet. That being said, teaching English overseas, usually requires a bachelor's degree and of course the ability to be somewhat adventurous and culturally open-minded. It has afforded me ample time to make money on the internet, travel, and learn a new language as well. For me, and I believe many others, this is the life and job we all dream about. Go to google or yahoo and start search for ESL in whatever country you are interested in and take advantage of the incredible luck we have of being native English speakers! Have fun and good luck!
  2. getagrip

    getagrip Gold Member

    This is true. My brother teaches English in Japan and does quite well - he also doesn't work very many hours at it.
  3. mellin

    mellin Member

    Wow! 16 hours a week? I'm putting in twice that many hours now just getting my classroom ready for the next school year. Sounds like something to jump at, but my husband probably wouldn't be able to coach basketball there. What would we do without hoosier hysteria?? Wonderful idea, but I can see how it wouldn't be for everybody. Continued success to you! There is nothing better than doing something that you love!

  4. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member


    Which program does your brother work for in Japan? I've been considering a move there and I've heard to stay away from Aeon, ECC, Berlitz, or Geos. I've heard alot of good first-hand info about the JET program there. But I'll most likely contact the schools directly. Just curious about your brother's school/program, if you get the chance to talk with him I'd be interested to hear.
  5. moneydude

    moneydude New Member

    that is amazing! how much can you make by doing this?
  6. rennn

    rennn New Member

    Do you have to know another language fluently before you can teach English?? What do they require?
  7. LauraLicata

    LauraLicata New Member

    rennn: Do you have to know another language fluently before you can teach English?? What do they require?
    No you don't Renn. I taught math overseas for quite a few years in American or International Schools. I also have a few former students who taught English in Asia.

    Teaching English in Asia is a bit different than what I did because I needed a degree in math, which I had, but Dave Walters is right. You don't need a degree in English to teach it in Asia.

    It was one of the best decisions I had ever made and also made decent money and traveled all just depends on the place anyone is in their life. I was just out of grad school and ready to see and do anything!

    It was an awesome experience.

    Take care,

  8. Newbie Shield

    Newbie Shield Gold Member

    Hi Dave,

    That's a breath of fresh air kind of op and I'm glad you've injected a new idea into the forum, thanx.

    Glad you are enjoying the cultural adventure as well as the lifestyle. Always nice to have enough free time to enjoy your hobbies and your surroundings.

    Hope you continue to find fulfillment in your pursuits.

    ~Newbie Shield~
  9. A8ch

    A8ch Gold Member

    On the lighthearted side.

    The Quickest and Easiest Way to Retire Immediately... is to win the lottery! [​IMG]

  10. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member


    Laura is right, you definitely do not need to know another language to teach ESL overseas, because only English is used in the classroom. It is, however, an excellent opportunity to learn a new language.


    How much you make varies on the country you go to and whether or not you teach in a public or private school. Private schools generally, but not always, pay more. In almost any counrty you teach ESL you make an above-average income. In places such as Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, where the cost of living is high, you make a high salary. If you want to save money, the consesnus seems to be that Korea is the place to go, it sounds like people can live very well and save $USD1000-2000/month.

    Even in the same country, your salary can vary quite a bit. In China, where I've taught for 4 years, the cost of living is generally low and you can live very comfortably on $500/month, I've known people who live on $200/month, but that requires being aware of your expenses. I have had salaries ranging from $700-$2200/month. I worked 20 hours/week at my highest paying job and saved about $1500/month.

    The important thing is to compare what schools offer and compare it to cost of living in that country. Regardless, you can live very well and usually save a decent amount.
  11. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member


    Thanks for your well wishes, I appreciate it!
  12. Dr_Boo

    Dr_Boo New Member

    I heard about the JET program (teaching english in Japan) back in college (Japanese was my minor) and thought it'd be really cool. But I got a job 2 months after graduation, started making some decent money, and never really looked back. Pity though, because I'm sure it would have been an awesome experience.

    Congrats to you for taking the plunge so to speak, and best of luck in the future!
  13. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member

    Well, Dr. Boo, it's never too late! I've only heard great stuff about the JET program, plan to do it eventually myself
  14. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member

    Has this convinced anyone to look into teaching English overseas? I would love to hear about anyones progress. It really is the greatest "job" I have ever had
  15. Singapoor

    Singapoor New Member

    Have been living in Asia for a few years now and have never taught English (since English is the first language where I live), but I know quite a few people who do.

    Dave, what you said about Korea has been echoed by friends of mine with experience teaching in a few Asian countries. One friend in particular was on a great contract where the school she taught for set her up with a great apartment in a popular part of Seoul, enough income to mainly eat most meals out, travel, pay her monthly student loan fees and still save a bit each month (I didn't ask how much). She was very happy with the situation and has just recently returned for the second year.

    A point noone's made though that my friends have mentioned (particular friends who teach English in Europe) is that many schools require you to have one of the two most commonly known (what I'll call) teaching English certificates in addition to your bachelors degree. From what I've heard, these aren't hard to get, it's just a matter of taking a few classes and passing tests. But it should be noted because just because you speak a language doesn't mean that you can teach it, so the programs are in place to help prepare individuals who are interested in correcting grammar, explaining language patterns, etc. do so in an effective way.

    Anyhoo, thanks for the post Dave, it was a really good topic.
  16. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters New Member

    Singapoor, thanks for the anecdote about your friend. The certificates you are talking about are called TEFL or TESoL certificates. I never got one, but I've only taught in Asia. Some jobs state that this is required, but in my experience they'll many times still hire you without it. I can't speak for Europe though, perhaps they are more strict with it there. I know people who've gotten the certificates. You can get them in-class or online. There are programs that take weeks and there are programs that take months, but never heard of one taking years. But you are right, it is something to consider, probably could give you an advantage, but in my own personal experience (in China mostly) you don't need them. There is also a certification program called CELTA which I've heard great stuff about and will actually teach you some really useful stuff along the way, I think it's based all over the world. In any case, I never got one, so my info just comes from what others have said. And yes, you are right, almost every position teaching English I've seen requries a Bachelors

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