There has to be something out there...

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by spirithawk, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. spirithawk

    spirithawk New Member

    To make money, yeah sure this forum has thousands of ideas. I'd like to know if there is at least one that actually makes you any kind of money you can make a living at. There's MLM's, affiliates, blogs, home businesses etc. I've been online now for a few years, and lost money at everything. I'm sure there's one person on here who knows a way to make money. I'm at the end of my rope folks, hanging on the end of a cliff. I can't even sell my furniture on CL, nobody's buying. Yes the man with the violin is standing here playing, that's how my life is. I'm scraping to put gas in my vehicle. Does anybody know of a way to make income online, without losing your shorts....

    thank you for your time...[​IMG]
  2. mountainmom5

    mountainmom5 Gold Member

    Spirithawk - welcome!

    You are right...

    spirithawk: There's MLM's, affiliates, blogs, home businesses etc.

    Truth of the matter is that there are successful people making a full time income in ALL of them.[​IMG]

    So be prepared to get a variety of answers here.[​IMG]
  3. Homeboy

    Homeboy New Member

    I don't mean to be insensitive, but you talk about barely having money to put gas in the tank, and then your sig advertises a way to make EASY money online!?!? [​IMG]
  4. A8ch

    A8ch Gold Member

    spirithawk: Does anybody know of a way to make income online, without losing your shorts....
    Hello SpiritHawk,

    There ARE lots of opportunities "out there" for people to make a decent living online. You identified a few yourself - MLM, affiliate programs, blogs and home businesses. It seems to me that the frustration you are experiencing due to your lack of success, stems from asking the wrong question.

    Opportunities do not care how comfortable or tenuous a person's situation may be, if he or she does not apply the strategies correctly the results will always be below expectations.

    You may need to make a slight adjustment to your mindset and perspective and ask instead: "How can I change what I am doing to improve the results I'm getting?" That outlook shifts the responsibility for your success squarely on your own shoulders.

    See... MLM, affiliate programs, blogs, home business and other online opportunities, are simply vehicles. That's all! But climbing into the driver's seat does not by itself transport you magically to your destination. You have to do the driving yourself (or hire a chauffer, if you can afford one).

    That means you have to know:

    - how to drive
    - your destination
    - how you plan to get there
    - what to expect along the way

    That will prepare you to make the next important choice - which vehicle is the best to use.

    - Will you be traveling by land, sea, or air? That'll dictate whether you should take a car, boat or plane.
    - If you're going by land, what kind of terrain will you encounter? That'll dictate whether you should take a car, SUV or a truck.

    And so on...

    I'm sure you get the picture.

    It is said that asking a question compells the answer. If you believe that, then you ought to see the importance of asking the right questions.

    Try it!

  5. Sonni

    Sonni New Member

    Making money online isn't easy so you're not alone. The statistics I read say 95% of folks don't make it and give up.

    Your writing seems to be good why not freelance and write articles? Associated content pays for articles and there are others I just don't know who they are.

    If you don't give up you may lose a few battles but not the war.
  6. MyOwnBoss

    MyOwnBoss New Member

    mountainmom5: Truth of the matter is that there are successful people making a full time income in ALL of them.

    So be prepared to get a variety of answers here.

    You took the words out of my mouth. The fact is outside of the outright scams (which there are very few of), you can make money - and good money doing anything.

    To the OP: I think you answer your own question in a way as to why you haven't made money. You've tried all these different things. This is a good way to either lose money (as you know), or make a tiny profit at a lot of different things.

    You need to pick something, or 2 somethings and devote all your online energy to that. Online moneymaking projects, for the most part, have a maturity curve. They tend to make trickles of money for several months of consistent effort before that trickle becomes a steady flow.

    I think you're looking for a shortcut to the success and it really doesn't exist unless you've already been around the block and know exactly what to do to recreate your previous successes.

    Pick a money making method and throw yourself at it with determination for several months, learning everything you can in the process. If you don't want to do that, walk away and never look back. There's no dishonor in that. Running a business isn't for everybody.

    Whatever you do, don't give a half-assed effort to umpteen programs and methods because you almost certainly won't make a living doing this and you'll just waste time, energy, and maybe money.
  7. Newbie Shield

    Newbie Shield Gold Member

    Hi Spirit,

    Summing up what everyone just said, you can make money by:

    1. Gaining the necessary knowledge - so study.

    2. Choosing one or more methods - start looking and choose.

    3. By working hard over time - plan on doing so for several months.

    There is no try, there is only do.

    ~Newbie Shield~
  8. MyOwnBoss

    MyOwnBoss New Member

    Newbie Shield: There is no try, there is only do.


    I've always preferred:

    "You karate do, OK"
    "You karate don't, OK"
    "You karate guess so... you get squash like grape!"
  9. Newbie Shield

    Newbie Shield Gold Member

    lol@Miyagi :)
  10. spirithawk

    spirithawk New Member

    Thanks everyone for the advise, [​IMG] I'll keep reading here and doing research I guess...A8ch-you remind me of something I've been doing for years. I picture and visualize in my mind what I want, doesn't manifest...but at least it helps...
  11. cherie27

    cherie27 New Member

    Perhaps you should get a job first to get your money and then start online opportunities.
  12. spirithawk

    spirithawk New Member

    yeah that be great if there were any jobs around, I live in a real small area and jobs are really hard to find here. Not to sound so negative, it's tough here, I've been pounding the pavement for the last 2 months and nobody's hiring anywhere. I got turned away from a place who helps people with jobs...go figure.. life in a small town[​IMG]
  13. cherie27

    cherie27 New Member

    How about looking for a work at home job?
  14. PavelBecker

    PavelBecker New Member

    A8ch: See... MLM, affiliate programs, blogs, home business and other online opportunities, are simply vehicles. That's all! But climbing into the driver's seat does not by itself transport you magically to your destination. You have to do the driving yourself (or hire a chauffer, if you can afford one).

    A8ch is absolutely correct!

    Somehow we've arrived to a situation when general public believes that there are two different types of business: "real business", where you have to invest money, time, effort and where you have to actually work hard in order to achieve any kind of success and "home based" or "Internet based business", where you don't have to work at all and where you can make at least one million dollars in a very short time without any effort whatsoever. The only problem is that there are "scams" out there and you need to make sure you don't get into one of them.
    Yes, Internet based business has some unique features: low cost of manufacturing the product, low cost of delivering the product, potentially very large customer base, ability to delegate nearly a hundred percent of all the aspects of it, ability to set it on autopilot, but it is still a business that you have to run yourself and you need to know how to run it.
    Main thing is - it's not the business that makes money, it's the business owner.
    How about a restaurant, or a laundromat, a car-wash, a day-care? Are any of them profitable businesses? Or, are they "scams?"
    You make it profitable and you make it a disaster!
    For me, as for a guy who's been through a number of brick-and-mortar businesses, Internet marketing is a logical choice, but if you are looking for some miraculous business opportunity where you don't have to do anything - you are out of luck here.
    Ultimately, you need to figure out first if you have what it takes to be an entrepreneur, if you understand the consequences about being in charge and relying only on yourself - the risk is higher, but the reword is worth it!
    Go read Robert Kiyosaki's "Rich Dad Poor Dad" first and see if you are even interested in becoming an entrepreneur.
    Home based or Internet based businesses do work, there is nothing wrong with them. After all it's just another business, why wouldn't it work? But make sure you realize that you will have to work at it in order to succeed, like in any other business.
  15. spirithawk

    spirithawk New Member

    Now there's a guy who says it all, [​IMG] thanks for your comment and your blog is great..a real person who is upfront about reality..

    thanks PavelBecker..

    your my hero...
  16. carrie722

    carrie722 New Member

    Hi there,

    You do sound like you are at the end of your rope.

    People are making money online in home based business opportunities. However, and this is a big however, internet marketing is about marketing yourself, not the business opportunity. It's a people business and it's about establishing influence and building relationships. I'm not really sure from your post what exactly your approach is. I think it was Zig Ziglar who said you will get what you need when you help enough people get what they need.

    Please understand that I am not preaching to you. I want to explain how this works. So, typically, you'll want to create an online presence as a mentor. As you form trusting relationships with people, they will eventually express an interest in whatever it is you are selling. Of course, you need to be selling something they want to buy. In other words, there needs to be a market.

    You should feel a passion for and have extensive knowledge of your product/opportunity that you are selling. Bear in mind, that if you have a passion and knowledge of heaters and your market is in the tropics, things are not going to go well.

    Remember, they must be sold on you first. I would recommend that you go to youtube and watch some of the videos of the big names in internet marketing: Frank Kern, Mike Dillard, Aaron Rashkin, John Reese, Mark Wieser, etc. Evaluate the videos for style, not so much for content. You'll find they have an easy-going approach without hype or pressure. You'll want to emulate their style.

    So, you can create your online presence through a website, blogging, social media, forums, videos, etc. Start anywhere, just get started. Then, as your list grows, be sure to call and qualify your prospects. Never spend time on people who don't qualify. Stay busy. Work hard. Stir up some action. Believe in yourself. You will be successful.

    Let me know what you think and how you are doing. Now go find out!

    Partner in success,
    Carrie Sperlunto
  17. Julsy

    Julsy New Member

    spirithawk... you sound alot like me! I tried lots of things and nothing worked! I finally am extremely happy and doing great with two different Matrix systems. The ones I chose are very simple that anyone can do and are very inexpensive. With one, all you need is to get 3 people, with the other all you need to get is 5. Plus with Matrix systems, most of them have spillover, so if your under someone you know is doing well, then you will get all their spillovers even if you do nothing. And you still make money! The other thing that I LOVE about both the systems I am in, is the "teamwork" and communication that I have with my teams. My upline e-mails me at least weakly and I do the same for my downline to make sure they are finding places to promote (for free) and to just touch base and see if they need anything. Also, the owners of one, even have skype and I am able to talk to them almost daily and get myself all pumped up and excited after hearing how well everyone is doing!

    This is what has worked for me after many attempts before at earning money from home! Feel free to PM me anytime!
  18. aplina

    aplina New Member

    at the end of the day is doing something you love . that way you are able to put in efforts ever when things are not doing well.

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