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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 11:40
[ Continued from http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/14_5868_13.html#msg67738 ]
success9: Hello, I have been looking at RIYO for a few months now. I like the plan but I don't like the idea that we don't get paid the 60% enroller bonus, which would be $60 on a $100 order plus if I want the car bonus I would have to refer people out side of RIYO since we don't get credit for signing up people in LHN, karl does. Platinum Car Payment Bonus: to qualify, purchase $100.00 of product and have 10 personally sponsored "Active" Gold Distributors each commission month So If I have 10 people sign up through RIYO, I will miss $600 in enrollers bonus with LHN and miss the car bonus. Please help me understand. Thanks Dave
That's not true. Karl stated on the call last night that if you refer someone to LHN, as long as they are an RIOY member too you just send a support ticket to let him know that you referred that person and he will send you the LHN bonus. That person may not be directly placed under you in LHN since the company automatically places them, but Karl said you will get someone under you for referring that person. The reason Karl is having everyone sign up under him is so that the matrix gets filled evenly for everyone, not just the people who are better promoters.
I hope that answers your questions. Feel free to ask any you have!
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 13:22
Thanks for clearing that up for me but If I do my own advertising and people sign up in my back office, will I still get the 60% and the credit for signing that person up? I think I read some where that karl will get you 2 people in your LHN downline. Since LHN is a 4x5 force matrix, why wouldn't Karl get you 4 people instead of 2? If you have 4 on your 1st level, 16 on your 2nd level, 64 on your 3rd level and 256 on your 4th level, all doing $100 a month in product, you are talking over $10,000 a month, WOW, not counting your 5th level. Thanks
Dave
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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 14:34 · Edited by: sienna322
success9: Thanks for clearing that up for me but If I do my own advertising and people sign up in my back office, will I still get the 60% and the credit for signing that person up? I think I read some where that karl will get you 2 people in your LHN downline. Since LHN is a 4x5 force matrix, why wouldn't Karl get you 4 people instead of 2? If you have 4 on your 1st level, 16 on your 2nd level, 64 on your 3rd level and 256 on your 4th level, all doing $100 a month in product, you are talking over $10,000 a month, WOW, not counting your 5th level. Thanks Dave
From what I understand last night, someone correct me if I am wrong (I think I may submit a support ticket about this since I am wondering the same thing!), Karl will place extra people under you if you tell him that you referred them.
One of my downline members joined LHN last night. I sent a support ticket saying that he joined I and that I wanted to make sure that I would get the bonus and this is the response I got:
We have noted your account and sent info to Karl
ETA: I just sent a support ticket asking this:
If I refer say 10 people to LHN and they sign up under Karl's link, will all of those people be placed in my matrix?
I will let you know what response I get.
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Kris Crosby
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 14:46
Hi Coby I believe Karl said last night that the people we enroll in LHN may not go in our downline because it is a forced matrix. The way I understood it and some one please correct me if I miss understood but karl was placing people right down the line.
So they possibly may not go in our downline but we will get the 60% bonus if we send in a support ticket letting the admin know.
I believe though for the good of the matrix and so that everyone can succeed he would be placing people as they join to the next in line and not to your own individual downline.
Welcome to the forum success 9! It's great to have you here.
This is going to be a neat program to be involved in as Kaarl is supplying us with the 100 for product purchases each month and as success 9 was saying a full matrix which is Karl ultimate goal WOW!!!
The way Karl was talking last night he seems to think that the LHN is goin to replace the tripling our deposit! I am curious to see how the LHN works out!
has anyone gotten a distributer yet in LHN?
Take Care
Kris
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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 14:52
I just checked my LHN back office and no one there yet.
I thought when Karl was explaining last night that when you refer someone, that you may not get that particular person in your downline, but you would get someone to take their place. You know when he was talking about Jane Doe and Joe Blow etc.
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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 15:08
Members please check your email, there is an email from support that is going to change how we are allowed to do things. Many of our posts and things on our blogs/lenses will have to be deleted.
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Kris Crosby
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 15:48
Yes Coby I was just checking my emails and it looks like I am going to have to make some changes to my blog and squidoo.
I almost wonder what with all the changes that are being made if he is afraid that people could be reading the wrong info and about programs that are no longer viable.
I am going to be taking down anything I have about the old programs and also the couple of posts that I did on the MFM offer.
So once again I am going to be updating some more..LOL 
Yes Coby I did hear him say something about joe blow and john doe and several others but to be honest I really did not catch what the question was that he was answering. I would imagine though and I will send in a support ticket asking that if someone refers someone to LHN if they will have that person or a different person added to their line.
My guess would be that we are going to have people that are RIOY members but not on our team as distributers because from the way he was talking last night he is just placing them as they decide to join under the next member in line.
From the way they were talking about LHN last night I got the impression that this is going to be kind of like set it and forget it. (I know those were probably a bad choice of words sorry.) As we sign on new members and they pay their one time deposit they join LHN and Trivita and get their monthly checks. sign up for autoship, deposit Karl checks, and wait for the matrix to fill.
LOL!! What could be easier?
Did anyone else get that perspecive?
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Kris
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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 16:07
I have already changed my blogs and am going to work on my squidoo right now. I am just wondering how we change posts here and on some of the other forums. It seems like you can only edit your latest post?????
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 16:53
I am working on getting everything updated. I wonder ifyou could hit edit then full edit and just delete everything? Do you think we should go all the way back to the beginning of our posts?
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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 18:45
I did in some of the other forums but here and mmg you can only edit for your latest post. I will have to see if there is another way to do it from your profile or something.
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 18:56
Yea I guess it makes sense so that people who read the threads from the beginning do not get confused because we have done a complete 180 here! LOL
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sienna322
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 19:13
I sent a pm to the administator here. We'll see what he says.
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Kris Crosby
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 22:38
Thanks Coby!! Sounds good.
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2008 22:53
Hi Guys I think I got everything updated now!
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sienna322
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2008 23:33
Good job Kristina. We don't want to put the program in jeopordy at all. It seems the admin just has the longevity of the program in mind.
Also, the call from the other night is now posted for members to listen to.
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 00:11
sienna322: Good job Kristina. We don't want to put the program in jeopordy at all. It seems the admin just has the longevity of the program in mind. Also, the call from the other night is now posted for members to listen to.
Hi to all of you.
There has been a total whirlwind of changes but I truly believe Karl is doing the right thing.
This program with TriVita and now LHN is unmatched still. There is no other program that will send you money each month to order products and buy customers so that you will earn a commission. It will not happen.
I do believe that Karl has made these changes to ensure the longevity of the program and to fulfill his obligations to all members.
As I said before, this program is not matched by any other on the net now and I believe Karl will be working to constantly improve RIOY.
We cannot get better than this!!!
Take care,
Laura
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 09:56
You are right, Laura, RIOY is unmatched. There is no other program that will build your business in 2 profitable companies, with virtually no out of pocket cost!
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 15:54
Hi all just checked my LHN and I have been placed under someone other than Karl also. I have not been given a distributer yet though.
The RIOY program has under gone some changes in the last two weeks but I do feel that the changes made were to ensure the longevity of this amazing RIOY system that Karl has designed for RIOY members.
Even with the changes that have been made as an RIOY member you are still going to ba able to build 2 very profitable buisnesses. Also remeber that Karl is going to be sending you monthly checks to help cover your products and map customers. So this really is an amazing program and a great waay to build your own TV and LHN business.
The RIOY program is stronger than ever and with the changes mde you can be sure that RIOY will be here in the future to help it's members continue to grow their businesses!
Take Care All
Kristina
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 16:40
Listen to the excitement of these lovely ladies folks! You will have 1 or 2 solid businesses (depending on where you live) built for you! Click on a link and find out more. Financial freedom is not far away!
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Kris Crosby
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 19:07
Yea!! Jerry I am all for financial freedom!!
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sienna322
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 21:24 · Edited by: sienna322
Kris Crosby: Yea!! Jerry I am all for financial freedom!!
Me too! I can't wait. I am on my way there with my first commission check from TV
And a new lead
ETA: I forgot to add, I received my LHN products yesterday. I ordered the skin care system and I am really loving the way my face feels today, so incredibly soft!
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 21:53
I will have try those products I am all for good skin care products. congratulations on your new lead Coby!
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 23:34 · Edited by: Mathvite
I received my products today too. I'm trying the anti-aging cream. Gotta look young when RIOY lets me retire [u]early[u] in a couple of years or less.
My check for MFM has been taken out of the bank so I made it in the program. My house will be paid for by RIOY in just a few years.
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 10:24
Mathvite: I received my products today too. I'm trying the anti-aging cream. Gotta look young when RIOY lets me retire [u]early[u] in a couple of years or less. My check for MFM has been taken out of the bank so I made it in the program. My house will be paid for by RIOY in just a few years.
That is so exciting Pat. I love reading these posts....everyone is so happy and content with RIOY!
I'm so glad to be part of this awesome system.
I'll check back a little later to make a real post. I've been pretty busy here.
Take care,
Laura
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 14:07 · Edited by: CharlesBoose
Hi Everyone,
Nice to see that everyone is so happy with RIOY and the 2 super companies which have been chosen and supported by RIOY and the RIOY staff. They have certainly made the right choices. I am more than happy with everything and the way they have made it so that we can join both companies and be successful without a lot of time and effort involved on our part which I don't have at the moment.
I signed up with LHN on the autoship and made a quick choice of products without reading much about them ... and bam they were delivered in a few days. The one product which I new very little about came with a 4 page newspaper of exactly what it is and what it does plus many reviews from product users and doctors. I have never seen nothing like it anywhere. I can't wait to start taking it and see what it does for me along with the others that were delivered.
In total I received 3 great products from LHN. These are products that you just don't find everywhere. I am going to start taking them Monday in addition to my great TV products.
So, in addition to RIOY making the right choices I now know that we have made the right choice in joining RIOY. Not just for the great income but for the super products as well.
Till next time,
Chuck
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 09:25
CharlesBoose: I signed up with LHN on the autoship and made a quick choice of products without reading much about them ... and bam they were delivered in a few days. The one product which I new very little about came with a 4 page newspaper of exactly what it is and what it does plus many reviews from product users and doctors. I have never seen nothing like it anywhere. I can't wait to start taking it and see what it does for me along with the others that were delivered.
Hi Charles,
The more I read about LHN the better it sounds. I received an email from our upline and he mentioned that there are people who are in line for new car bonuses soon as well!
We are definitely lucky to be a part of RIOY because Karl seems to have made some very wise decisions with building our businesses in TriVita and now LHN!
I'm curious if he has anything new on the horizon....we'll just have to wait and see.
Take care,
Laura
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 11:29
LauraLicata: The more I read about LHN the better it sounds. I received an email from our upline and he mentioned that there are people who are in line for new car bonuses soon as well!
Interesting. I received an email like that too. His name was Bill. And he did mention the car bonus. Also, business is starting to pick back up. After the abrupt changes things were slowing down lead wise but I've now picked up 2 more in the last 3 days.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 15:26
Congrats jerry have you been placed yet or recieved a LHN distributer? I was placed with someone in Albany New York.
No distributers yet though.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 19:52
I just spent (invested) 6 hours reading this entire thread. If I remember right, it goes back to Nov. 07.
You've convinced me that the creator(s) of RIOY is/are not crook(s). But--from the beginning--I've had problems with the numbers. I can find NO way to make a $1,000 one time investment pay out, even after waiting 3 years to start, at multi-thousands-per-month for 3 or more years.
Over the past (nearly) year, there have been major changes to the pay-in/pay-out plans, and I suspect that's due to the inability of the creator(s) of the plan to sustain the high-percentage payouts promised.
I'm afraid that the pay-in/pay-out will continue to trim down. And that its ultimate purpose is to build a HUGE group for the creator(s) before the pay-in/pay-out is entirely phased out ... leaving us to fend for ourselves. (One post--about half-way through the thread--said that the "how it was done" was secret. That concerns me.)
I'm not saying these things to be argumentative or cause a bunch of flames to be posted [honest], but it's been *my* history with MLM (from Yurika Foods on] to have companies go out-of-business within a year after I join. This has made me super-cautious.
It looks to me that *that's* the path RIOY is headed. Can anyone lift the veil of secrecy for me on how-it's-done?
Thanks for your help.
Bruce
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 23:47
Jerryjg62: Interesting. I received an email like that too. His name was Bill. And he did mention the car bonus.
I got it too. I am wondering if it is just a generic email?? I am still under Karl and have not had any distributors placed with me either.
I am confused as to how the LHN is going to work within RIOY. I have been going back and forth with support for several days and they are not understanding what I am asking and their answers seem to dance around my questions, so I'm not sure about LHN yet.
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