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# Posted: 16 Sep 2007 19:03 · Edited by: CSGWAHM
PA,
Just wanted to tell you that you did a great job answering the questions. You're always so helpful and honest. It's the only way to be in my opinion.
I'm also in EDC and don't think these kinds of programs are going extinct. I agree with PA, it's totally at the discretion of the sponsor if they choose to take any sales from their members. Most are not doing that.
If anyone has any questions concerning EDC, I'm here to help. I do have a new way to advertise for EDC, which is incredible and really boosting my business and income. It's great because it's so low cost that anyone could do it. It's the first link in my sig if you're interested in EDC and don't have the money to fund it up front.
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# Posted: 17 Sep 2007 10:10
CSGWAHM, thanks for the comment! Always nice to meet other members and to hear a kind word. And thanks for the note about the new way to advertise for EDC. I think that one will be big!
I have noticed that with every program there are naysayers, and often the very people bashing a program or business model are promoting something similar themselves. I won't state names, but if you look closely at some of the opposing comments in this forum (and their signatures), you'll see what I mean. We're all out to promote, at the end of the day. What would be nice is if we just stuck to our own little pastures and water holes to do so, instead of intruding on others and bashing their programs to lift ours up. I think most folks would find this concept more rewarding and effective if they gave it a go. I don't venture into threads and discussions about other programs and bash them to get my message out there, and my business does just fine. What does that tell you?
Like you said, it's about ethics and honesty, and there shouldn't be any other way to go. So we'll continue answering questions and providing information here. So if you're doing research on this program, don't be afraid to ask your questions. The worst that can happen is that you'll get a valid answer back to help you make your decision! The best that can happen is that you'll be a step closer to being involved in something that will change your life for the better! Not bad odds at all if you ask me!
Good luck to you CSG, and good luck to everyone else! Now's the time to go for it if you're serious about making a change!
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# Posted: 17 Sep 2007 10:37
Quoting: Razzak Power_Advisor27, Thank you for clarifying my doubts. I must say that I'm really interested on the lowest level, Your New Fortune, since my budget isn't that high; at least for now. Let's say that I invest about 1-2 hours per day with the YNF program, how much am I expected to earn per month, in average? Am I able to receive my payments via check, Paypal or wire transfer? Or do I need to register for a marketeer account and pay another fee? $69.95 is just fine for now, I can't afford anything else. I've gone through your website (written at the signature) and it really attracted me! Your team seems to be very helpful! However, after clicking at "Join our YNF Team Today!", it gave me an error, stating that it was an outdated version of Paypal: You have requested an outdated version of PayPal. This error often results from the use of bookmarks. To enter the PayPal website please click on the Welcome tab. If you are already logged in, please click on the My Account tab to continue. One last question for now: why do I need to give my first 2 sales to my sponsor, if I'm already paying? Thank you!
Hello again Razzak,
Paypal has been having some issues with their recurring payments system lately. I have looked into this, and it is being fixed at the moment. In the meantime, thanks for alerting me to the issue.
Now, to answer your questions. We don't make guarantees on what you can earn or expect to earn. However, I will say that if you are able to put in at least 1 to 2 hours per day, you can make a significant starting income. I like to use 5 as a realistic number. If you are diligent in your promotion and bring in just 5 new team members per month, that would be income of $350 in your first month, and growing exponentially each month after. With the lower level, your income will be residual, so signing up just 5 members one time will give you a nice, recurring income of $350 per month. If you continue to bring in new members, this income would build on top of the $350 a month you're already earning from your first 5 members.
On the retail side, you can promote our PromoBlackBox at the YNF level and earn 100% commissions of $495 per sale! So, it really depends on you and what you're looking to focus on promoting as to how much you can expect to earn. An even mix of both will do wonders for supplementing your income on a tight budget!
And with my team, I create customized marketing website for each member. My members are allowed to use the payment processors of their choice (and there are several great free ones out there). So there is no need to purchase a merchant account. I also provide ample training on effective free advertising methods, so no need to worry about advertising costs right off the bat!
Hope that answers your questions. I'll send you a private message regarding the Paypal payment issue and how you can pay if you're interested in joining! Thanks, and I look forward to working with you!
If anyone else has any questions, feel free to ask!
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 10:35
I know there were a few who were interested in the lowest level of EDC, Your New Fortune. EDC is now running a special offer for this level, just $1 for the first 30 days. This is so that those interested but still skeptical can test out the complete system (products, training and all) and see exactly what EDC has to offer. Let me know if anyone has any questions! The busy season is really kicking into high gear now!
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 14:30 · Edited by: Bigrich
I don't care if people pass me up their sales, in fact I try and help them get a sale or 2 under their belt to build confidence and make them become succesful. Heck I got one guy that makes more than me,,, LOL guess I need to work harder...
and the YNF is a great way to start. I started at the middle level then used my profit to upgrade immediately..
The longer you wait the more you ain't making.....
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2007 01:32
Quoting: Bigrich I started at the middle level then used my profit to upgrade immediately..
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 17:12
12 Oct 2007 01:32 - Attached on merging:
EDC Gold.... I know im probably late but how is it?
Any good feedback on this? In general, do programs with this type of general setup work? (i.e. one that has the same principles only lower cost and lower profits).
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 17:34 · Edited by: getagrip
Here is a post someone made about it on The Rip Off Report:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/274/RipOff0274017.htm
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 18:14
NO rip off it is a legitimate biz that you have to work at to succeed.. there is no buy in sit back and get rich biz out there, that would be a scam, we are about to blow the competition away, and former edc members who left are begging to come baqck in.
You'll want to see this!
http://shmyl.com/mrooson
Call the owners Mike & Craig if you have any
questions.
Craig's # is... 760-529-9372
Mike's # is... 702-839-9413
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 23:52
EDC Gold is something that requires hard work & dedication, If people have written bad reports on it then they did not put in the time & effort required too succeed.
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 18:45
You are so right Bigrich, it is a very legitimate business. I didn't read the rip off report, because frankly I know it's not true, I'm with EDC and I won't read all the negative garbage. EDC is about to blow the socks off it's competitors, there's something HUGE about to be unveiled in the next few weeks.
Casper.....Very true, it's usually people who don't put the time and effort into something and then want to badmouth it. I won't waste my time reading it.
Honestly, I can't imagine not being a part of EDC, it's truly awesome!
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2007 00:20
Hi there,
What about this report (not mine) I found on google?
"EDC Gold - This is a 2up program that sells for $997 and was released at the end of 2006. EDC Gold mostly offers products that are being given away for free all over the internet. Most of them are resell rights products that don't present any value to the end user. You see, if the only thing that EDC Gold has to offer is the opportunity then most likely it will create a lot of unhappy customers and fail as the result of it. EDC Gold has a 2up compensation plan, which means that you have to pass up 2 sales to your sponsor before you are able to make the commission. Most of the time representatives of 2up programs like EDC Gold never make the kind of money that they were promised before they signed up. On Avarage a newbie in this industry makes 2 sales with their advertising budget. If you think about it, those 2 sales are being passed up to their sponsor and they never come out ahead to keep advertising the business. EDC Gold owners also promote the opportunity themselves which is not fair towards their members. EDC Gold is one of those opportunities where only a few people really made it, and rest of the reps are struggling to make their money back"
Thanks
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2007 01:32
Quoting: dodofone EDC Gold has a 2up compensation plan, which means that you have to pass up 2 sales to your sponsor before you are able to make the commission.
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# Posted: 17 Oct 2007 13:07 · Edited by: CSGWAHM
dodofone.....I disagree with that report. Here's the thing.....I'm with EDC so I don't rely on reports like that and if people are going to think that everything they read on the internet is true, then they don't belong in this business. There's all kinds of negative stuff on the net, people need to be smart and go to the sources to get their questions answered when looking at EDC. The owners are available by phone to speak to anyone who has questions. Also, the 2 up is at the sponsors discretion, it's not something that has to be done or that most sponsors are doing anymore. The owners do not promote EDC. Quite a few people are making it with EDC and if people are not making their money back, they probably didn't work it then. I believe when you make a committment to have a home based business, you have to treat it like a business, not a hobby. Most of the time the people who are saying it didn't work, didn't put the time and effort in and want to blame everybody else for failing.
Bottom line......EDC has some of the best training, it's just awesome! There's tons of useful software in the back office. I'm very happy that I'm with this company, plus I believe in the owners and their integrity.
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 08:20
When reading all of these "reports," you really have to consider the source. Most of these folks that make such reports (if in fact they were past member of EDC Gold), didn't know the first thing about true marketing, and the right expectations were never set for them by the folks who lured them in.
I have seen this so much that I'm close to pulling my hair out! I talk to folks who've posted bad reports or messages in forums about EDC, and one of the first things I ask them is "What did you do to build a positive reputation for yourself so that your customers would trust you?" and another is "What website did you use to promote the opportunilty?" So the answers? To the first question, the resounding response is "...what do you mean, build a reputation?" and to the other, "...the Dubbs site." If there is one thing that must be understood about this program, it's this: you cannot get by doing nothing. There are tons of distributors out here that you're "competing" against. This DOES NOT make the market dry up, but it does mean that you have to work overtime to brand yourself and stand out from the crowd. With any business, if you haven't taken the steps to make yourself known and to build a positive reputation for being honest, upfront and helpful, no one will take you seriously enough to purchase anything from you. Once you get past that barrier, you MUST be creative and innovative! You have to set yourself apart from the hundreds of others selling the same thing you are. How to do that? Well, you can start by getting your own website! Using replicated sites will not do anyone justice but the person who's face and voice is all over the site (and if you're a distributor, it's not yours....). Replicated sites only have a small snippet of info talking about the actual sponsor, nothing personal to help website visitors get to know you, no images of you or personal messages from you. In business, people want to be able to put your name with your face (and more if they can), because work is done primarily online. This is the only way they'll have of "meeting" you. If you're using a replicated site, the introduction to your and who you are is never there, making it almost impossible for visitors to feel comfortable with the opportunity.
For those who were once members of EDC and are now bashing the program through such reports, it seems they never went that extra mile to make the opportunity a success for themselves. The others joined up with another program and are only using a negative angle to get more interest for their new program. Not once in almost a year have I come across someone who's said that they really did put in effort and believed in themselves and the program enough to make it work, and still things did not work out for them. When those naysayers recount the so-called work that they put in, it's almost laughable. I don't say that to be rude, but purchasing a Google Adwords account to try and keep up with the big names, or just driving traffic to a website isn't enough. There is a science to it all, and a fairly easy science to learn when you have a good sponsor.
So for those who are considering using such reports to form your decision, I suggest you do 2 things. First off, consider the source. If it's a forum or blog, see if the person has something to gain by turning people off of the EDC Gold opportunity to gain interest in another one (look at their signatures or any other links they may post). Also, see if you can get in contact with them, and ask them for an honest recount of what they tried to do to build their business. That will help you determine whether such a report is a legitimate review of the program or just an attempt to get business for another program.
And then, ask questions to those you've seen on the scene for a long period of time. Members who've been in for the long haul will have more accurate information than someone who was only a member for a month and then gave up. We've also been around and know what works and what doesn't.
Just so you know, I posted a rebuttal to that Rip Off report not long after it was posted. Perhaps reading the rebuttal will give another view of the situation.
=PA27
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2007 17:35 · Edited by: Bigrich
The BIG announcement is coming Tuesday night....
Craig and Mike are at it again. I have added 4 members to my team Fri. night, 2 were in before, and are anticipateing the announcement. So for those that are interested I can get you in on the call/webinar let me know... [email protected]
as most people know we are the Innovators and all other opps are just copying edc
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2007 18:08
Yes, bigrich, I can't wait to hear the big announcement! You're so right, that we're the innovators and the other opps are copying us. The big announcement is suppose to kill the competition. It's pretty exciting!
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2007 15:20
Hello There,
After reading through everyones posts, I must say that there are certainly alot of different views on EDC and EDC Gold. I myself am apart of EDC. For those looking for advice on whether or not this is a reputable opportunity or not, here's my two cents:
I have been with Edc for a few months now, and while I can't say it's made me insanely wealthy, I can say that this is a legitimate opportunity to make a living. I read alot of posts in different forums about people who were not successful in this business, and honestly, I think these are people who are expecting for them to turn over theie pillow and find a fortune sitting there. When I got started, I had that same mentality, to be honest. The harsh reality was that this is not a "get rich quick" scheme. It does take work, and at times IS NOT easy. Personally, I think that who you go in under makes all of the difference. When I first got started, I was frustrated with the program because I had not made any money, and I felt like I was scammed, but my sponsor helped me stay focused, and while he certainly did not make money fall into my lap, he did teach me what it takes to be successful from home. I have tried many many programs, and most were scams, but I can honestly say that Edc is a great program that DOES take work, but will ultimately pay off, big time. With home businesses, as stated before, your results are going to depend on how much work you put into it. So for those trying to decide, just be sure that you're going in under the right person, and have your head focused on accomplishing your goals!
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2007 11:19
Tonite is the Big News,,,,, EDC is at it again...............
And for those that want to put in money and do nothing to see if they get a return,,, invest in stocks.... However to be successful at that venture you must WORK as well..............
You need to hear this tonite..
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 10:11
OMG, I couldn't believe the announcement last night! I could barely sleep I was so excited! Mike & Craig deliver once again!
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 11:22
me too.....
very exiting...
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 23:28
These guys have done it again. Other programs will follow suit. As we all know there is a lot of money to be made here.
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2007 18:50
I am an inactive Edcgold member and i have been getting emails again from Mike and Craig about the Diamond program.I guess they must have saturated the market and decided to come up with something new again.It is just a shame that the rest of us in Edc can't compete with the marketing $$$ of Mike,Craig and Dave.
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 10:45
sounds like someone who didn't treat it as a Business... and Worked at it...
I have to work to make it work for me.. not sit back complain and hope that some oney falls from the sky....
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 11:11
Quoting: emmjay am an inactive Edcgold member and i have been getting emails again from Mike and Craig about the Diamond program.I guess they must have saturated the market and decided to come up with something new again.It is just a shame that the rest of us in Edc can't compete with the marketing $$$ of Mike,Craig and Dave.
I have to respectfully disagree with that statement. The internet is a vast marketplace for any type of business, and if you check statistics, you will find that there are still hundreds of thousands of people who search for "home based businesses" or something along those lines every single day. With that being said, the market is NOT saturated. There are people in EDC who make tons of money off of FREE advertising(I use free methods as well). I would suggest searching the forums to find new ways of promoting your website, instead of putting the blame on the top earners. I don't forsee the market being saturated any time soon, or in the future. New people get on the internet everyday, and someone wakes up everyday thinking "I'm sick of working for someone, I'd rather work from home". Best of luck to you my friend!
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 12:30
agreed S100,, top sales are in anything,, if you sell cars there are always top salesmen and then there are those that stand around complaining.
I have a hunting buddy that sells carpet,, he makes 300k a year..
takes a couple months off for hunting and vacation. He likes making the sale person to person, and I have tried to talk him into making an ebook on Closing the Deal.. maybe one day,, I got off topic here...
You must work at it to make it..
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 15:59
I would not pay any money to get started with any online money making scheme. There are too many dishonest people out there trying to scam you out of your money.
Anyone with the slightest street smarts can start a profitable online business with just a few hundred dollars. I have build my online marketing company from just taking online surveys for a year and plugging every cent I earned into my company. Now we are finally rocking and rolling promoting survey companies, work at home opportunities, get paid to sites, and so many others.
Just be smart before you start giving your money away to complete strangers.
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 16:00 · Edited by: emmjay
Boy I guess I brought Edc back to life in this forum with my post seeing as there had not been a post since Oct.24.All I am saying is that we as members should not have to compete with the owners of the company.Do they not make enough from the marketing systems that we as members pay for.Think about it,seeing as you brought up the top salesman comment,do the owners of car dealerships get out on the sales floor and take the commisions from their sales people.Absolutely not because they make plenty from their profit margins.
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 16:11
Quoting: emmjay Boy I guess I brought Edc back to life in this forum with my post seeing as there had not been a post since Oct.24.All I am saying is that we as members should not have to compete with the owners of the company.Do they not make enough from the marketing systems that we as members pay for.Think about it,seeing as you brought up the top salesman comment,do the owners of car dealerships get out on the sales floor and take the commisions from their sales people.Absolutely not because they make plenty from their profit margins.
Great Point Mike,
I met Craig Garcia at an event. I called him a few weeks after we met to find out what it was that he marketed. One of the comments he made was that he made his money selling the systems. Don't know what changed. I see that some of his former top income earners quit and went to another program.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 16:13
Quoting: emmjay All I am saying is that we as members should not have to compete with the owners of the company.
Mike,
They no longer market the program... if you see their site out there,
it's being used to generate leads for EDC members who participate
in the company co-op.
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