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Robinator
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# Posted: 27 Sep 2008 20:32
Doesn't it concern anyone that there is not phone number or email for STE????? How do you contact them? Do you need to mail them a letter to contact them? I find that very strange!
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Dpark
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Joined: 26 Aug 2008
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2008 13:02
Yolo,
all the money that was due to me was deposited this month thanks.
robinator
- Hows marketamerica doing for you? Think i can get in that program as well? kinda shitty way to drum up business by tearing another one down but hey whatever. I'm glad your so concerned about me and my family and friends that are all working at this business. But as far as i know there are no investigations or even charges on going against STE and to say "I have been saying that the FTC is definitely going to be looking into STE and after speaking with Derek today I am even more convinced" until there is an offical FTC inquiry or any other ruling in that matter it seems that your only trying to scare off people from other mlm opportunities that deal with shopping, since your a part of marketamerica. By the way isnt that also an "online mall". (I could be wrong about the online mall thing i didnt take the time out to investigate market america)
... in the famous words of the church lady on SNL "aint that special"
This is a forum to discuss the pros and cons of shop to earn. not to qualify or disqualify STE as a burn lounge or other pyramyd scheme. Leave that to the FTC.
As far as the business mechanics goes, STE is a business and sorry to say pa mom your pricing analysis is awesome but as far as i am aware, people usually dont go into business not to make a profit.
If you shop around enough you will always come across someone that does or sells something cheaper than the next guy.
But if by paying the extra premium for some products, yes someone is getting rich but i am also helping out some friends and family in my upline as well as giving the company my 100 dollars of buying power each month wich collectively equates to 30k+ members giving 100 dollars for 3 million dollars a month buying power to influence other companies to go green or induce more people to catch the green wave by creating more green products well then i will donate the 20 mins it takes me to make the 100 bucks each month and get some green products lowering my carbon footprint as well helping my friends and family make some residual income.
I am looking forward to the next few months with the holidays around the corner as well as some improvements that are being worked on as we speak the future is looking brighter and brighter each day.
As far as STE being unapproachable... if you ever go to one of the training seminars all you have to do is ask. I have pat's cell number as well as dan's and soda's stay in contact with them frquently thru emails and phone calls. If you have any questions feel free to contact me my number is on my ste site or even pm me on here and i will relay any questions you have for them.
And No i am not a part of the STE brain trust i am just very enthusiastic about this opprotunity that i was blessed with and as you can see I'm not a super recruiter by any means Nor am i a genius or some CEO of a multi billion dollar company. I am a just a regular joe have a wife two kids I do well for myself but i see how much better it can be and if i can help my friends and family along the way i see it as a blessing. so robinator tell your friend to get some color back because he hasnt done anything wrong. He's just obliged himself to helping out those he recruited to qualify and hit their bonuses as well now if he doesnt do that then shame on him.
well that's it for now ... maybe i should start a thread anyone hear about marketamerica see what that's all about as well.
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Robinator
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2008 13:15
Dpark, you know what I said to my friend Derek? I said, I'm happy that you are doing well, as long as your making money, do it as long as you can and make as much as you can. I just told him what I know. I hope all of you make a lot of money, I have concerns about the pay structure, but hey I'm not in STE. How did you know that I do business with MA. I have never written anything about it because it has never been my intention to talk about it here or recruit anyone from here?
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Robinator
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2008 13:23
Just another quick note. I have been in this industry for almost 20 years, I have known Derek for 8 years and half of his personally sponsored people I am friends with, and I have never talked any of them about what I do because I do not like to do business with friends or family. I network through business owners and professionals. I also do not like to do business with people at a distance. I'm not looking for anyone in this room to join me. I am soley expressing opinions, as are you and I respect evryone's opnion even if I do not agree with them.
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Robinator
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2008 13:25
Never mind Dpark, I see that it was visible in my profile.
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Robinator
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2008 14:04
Dpark, I'm concerned whenever I see a company that has the bulk of its money coming from recruiting and not through the actual selling of products. My brother was in burn lounge, they are gone now, and one of my best friends is in a company called YTB and now they are being sued for 25 million by the attorney generals office and they are being labeled as an illegal pyramid scheme. The reason this is happening is because in both cases the people were making the bulk of their money off of recruiting and not the sales of the actual products they were supposed to be. Now I know that many people make it a career to jump from different MLM's and network marketing companies when new opportunities emerge, and they usually make a lot of money. I have no problem with that at all. I'm sure that in both burn lounge and YTB there were people that most likely made fortunes, again, I have no problem with that. It's the people who are new to the industry, like my friend Derek that don't understand how this business works and I know for him when he first told me about STE and that many of his family and friends joined and they did so because they trust him, I knew immediately that he told me that because that is important to him, others may not care about that at all. So I know for him that if something negatively were to happen with STE, it would be more likely to really have an impact on him. I know that there are probably many other people like Derek that feel the same. People need to be informed of both the positives and the negatives to truly make an educated decision on how to move forward. I know that there are no guarantees in life, but I think that people should be well informed. The first two MLM's that I was involved in as a teen were gone in a matter of 3 years. After this happened to me twice I had a bad taste in my mouth and thought that all companies in the MLM/Network Marketing were bad and there were more people that agreed with me than not. I'm grateful to the gentleman who is now a great friend for educating me on this industry and who persistently followed up with me. He changed my life. It's the companies like Burn Lounge and many others that have had the same or similar issues that hurt all of us in this industry and to be quite honest, the last thing that I want to do is be one of the people that brings negative attention to this industry because inevitably it hurts us all. When I meet with potential prospects, I educate them on our industry, before I ever talk to them about what I actually do. If the value is not there for the prospect they will shut you off. But the fact that many people have negative information and have even know people to get hurt in different companies has to be addressed because it is an issue for many people. I honestly hope that STE does succeed and does become a power house in our industry because the more people that succeed, the more money can be made for all of us. So let me now apologize to you and everyone else on this blog for coming across as negative. I'm just concerned that the pay structure may bring issues in the future. I have taken my web address off of my profile as I did not know that it could be viewed publicly, and again, it was not my intention for anyone to ask what I was doing. Wish you the best.
-Rob
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PAMom
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# Posted: 2 Oct 2008 10:21
Maybe someone can explain the upline points flow which seem to go on ad infinitum with STE and I don't see how this can be as the levels grow deeper and deeper. Specifically, most MLMs limit the upline points to a definitive number of legs (e.g. five). For early investors, they are very high on the tree and for every new recruit, they get 200 points (approximately $20).
Herein lies my question. Let's say I joined in March, my right leg is 25 deep and a new recruit is added to the bottom at $448. $100 goes to the person who actually recruited teh newbie. That leaves $348. Now 200 points ($20) goes to 25 people upline which equals $500 but STE only has $348. How is this possible? Obviously the problem only gets worse as the legs become deeper and deeper. Someone in my town did join in March and he currently has 9200 recruits on the left and 3000 recruits on the right. So, his legs are getting very deep already.
I understand that the points flowing upline also apply to the cash back program. Each affiliate only rebates a finite amount of money. Let's say on $100 it is $20 of which 10 % goes to the purchaser. That leaves STE with $10. Each upline person receives 10 pts or $1 from the shopping. Again, if the legs are 25 deep, STE would need to pay out $25 yet only has $10 from the affiliate rebate.
If I understand the model, the company will be unable to fund its investors which is a classic example of a Ponzi scheme where the new recruits money is used to pay previous investors. The whole thing explodes when there are too many investors and not enough newbies.
I must be missing something. Can someone out there explain this or is this the reason the company reserves the right to "FLUSH" the points? This is noted in the back office. If yes, I foresee a lot of angry customers once their points are wiped away.
By the way, is anyone concerned that the STE Web site was down yesterday and it is down again right now (10:19 am)? Has the FTC stepped in and said NO MAS?
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2008 23:46
I am weary of any business in which we must question how viable the pay plan will be in the future.The STE plan is way too involved and seems doomed to fail as are most of these new MLM companies.
Since my last post I have went back to my colleague and told him "thanks but no thanks" on the STE biz/discount opportunity. I am just hoping he has enough time to recoup his investment before they are shut down.
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FFVictor
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 18:01
Hey PAMom,
You mentioned that in order for a business not to be categorized as a pyramid, they have to generate customer sales above 50% of their revenue. I've looked on the FTC website and I haven't found anything. Where did you see this info?
Thanks.
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heatherl
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2008 15:38
This opportunity has been wonderful experience for me. You get out only what you put in- like anything in life. I did have my 1st check post direct deposit on the 19th of September for $4,240. That was 2 days earlier then promised. Now I am up to $7202.30 in my 2nd month. It has been a consistant extra $1,100 per week for me. There will always be MLM haters and to each his own. Work hard and you will make your money back right away. That's what I did because I did not have a choice, financially. This company has changed my entire attitude towards MLM's. I was not a big fan! I was a skeptic and decided to give it a try before I judged and now I see the opportunity that was handed to me. It is your choice on how successful you become or not. You also want to join a strong team of professionals who will strive to keep growing with the company. I hope that this helps-Heather L-STE
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hotprice
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2008 21:41
I'm enjoying my ride with STE. I have been able to book travel, clothing, home products, & giftcards & receive cash back. I made my investment back in 13 days, & received my 1st check on time & correct, as promised. My Team members have received their direct deposits as well. I have not harassed or stalked anyone. I have only led my referrals by example, & followed my friend's advice who signed me up. I'm thankful she brought the concept to me, & I was her 2nd sign up. Points have alot to do with timing. You want to be signed up with a good Team member who will be helping you by continuing to sign up others. You benefit from being on top  Good luck to anyone considering coming in to the program. It's a great way for supplemental income.... shoptoearn.net/hotprice
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Phil Stones
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 06:19
My opinion on this type of opportunity - over the years I have seen many MLM companies come and go - I have met people who have made fortunes and people who have lost fortunes. Assuming the people who start the company know what they are doing and are genuine then the secret is in the product - it must be able to stand alone, ie quality and competitive price and it must be something that people actually want! Otherwise the system will eventually collapse. The big hitters do normally make the majority of their money initially from recruiting other people - but you should be able to make a reasonable income just from product sales fairly quickly. If you can't do this think carefully - and at least go in with your eyes wide open. If the product is useless or overpriced - your money will definitely come from recruiting other people and how much you make will depend on (a) how early you get in and (b) how persuasive you are at getting other people to join your downline. Remember if you do recruit friends and family and the system does collapse or they fail to make money you may not be friends for much longer! I have no personal experience of this particular company but with any opportunity you should be able to speak to the owner or at least senior management within the company about any concerns you may have - you should be able to visit them at their offices if you want to and there should be adequate training to allow you to run your business efficiently and professionally. On the surface this appears to be an affiliate type of online opportunity - and you may be better getting the necessary knowledge to run this opportunity independently - that way you are not reliant on somebody else and you wont be affected if their business collapses.
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gocanes
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 12:50
Sounds like you must be one of the "high ups" in this company. Truth be told, they're rumored to be inconsistent with their program and have been slow to pay. This company just started and they already have a ton of negative press. Most of the Blogs that make negative comments are threatened by legal action by the STE legal dept., which has been successful at removing a lot of that negative press. Just try to google it. You might still find a few articles. At best, it's a very questionable company. They've been in business what, 7 months?
There are a # of company's that offer online discounts for FREE. Just google that. Let's call this what it is: a new wave version of Amway. It's all about getting as many ppl to sign up and pay the initial dues. Try finding a phone number to the corporate office or try getting a hold of someone who works for the company. BET you'll have zero luck. That says it all as far as I'm concerned.......
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sweetangel7064
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 14:30
no it does not suprise me, this is a fast growing business, and has over 60,000 people involved if they had a phone number the phone would ring like crazy, to contact them you fill out a support ticket.. there is no need to contact them anyway if you have any problems you contact the person who got you signed up
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sweetangel7064
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 14:32
i am currently involved in at and absolutely love it.. You have to be motivated to start making money.. tell people about this opportunity just liek the person who signed you up did, if you need help i can help.. This is not a scam what so ever and if it was it would not be on its way to being the largest web portal. and if it was a scam then major retailers would not be involved such as walmart, target,kohls macys and so much more
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grace
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 19:46
ALERT ! ALERT! ALERT ! REPLYING TO MARLY'S POST:::: i dont believe you because points and cash are rewards ones a month, GENERALY THE SAME DAY YOU SIGN IN! please dont lie to the others. how can u say that u earn more than 2k in two weeks?
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PAMom
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 09:55
FFVictor-
Most recently you can find the 50 % of sales to non-participants in the scheme in the case against Burnlouge which sold online digital music. This was deemed an illegal pyramid where participants made their money from recruiting others into the plan and not from retail sales to participants not in the plan.
Here is the link to the indictment:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0623201/070709burnloungestipulatedorder.pdf
A. Pays any compensation related to recruitment;
B. Pays any compensation related to the purchase or sale of goods or services unless the majority (greater than 50 %) of such compensation is derived from sales to persons who are not members of the Mogul Program or the Marketing ProgramC. Otherwise constitutes a pyramid scheme.
Here is the link to the final decision from the FTC against Burnlounge
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0623201/080701stiporder.pdf
7. Participating in any prohibited marketing scheme includes, but is not limited to, promoting, marketing, advertising, offering for sale, or selling, or assisting others in the offering or sale or selling the right to participate in, the prohibited marketing scheme.
8. Prohibited Marketing Scheme means a pyramid sales scheme, Ponzi scheme, chain marketing scheme, or other marketing plan or program in which participants pay money or valuable consideration in return for which they obtain the right to receive rewards for RECRUITING other participants into the program, and those rewards are unrelated to the sale of products or services to persons who ARE NOT PARTICIPANTS in the marketing plan or program.
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joeo
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:00
Hey everybody...I just logged on to one of the 3 STE websites I am involved with and see that it has grown again. On Monday 10/6 it had 803 people and this morning I have 834. And I have done absolutely nothing! I haven't signed any one on in over a month.
Oh, and I also scored 2 more times the last 3 days as well = $1,200 ($550 + $50 gas bonus) PLUS 3 people I referred in my business also scored so I get another $150 (3 x $50). This one website has made more than $18,500 in 4.5 months. And its still in second place to my wife's website. She has less people but has actually made more money. Her legs are more balanced, why? because you never know when the next superstar will enter your business and run with this. I wonder how many we will have by next Friday???? This is fun stuff.
I don't understand why so many people keep watching some silly 30 minutes STE presentation and decide to join? Don't they read these negative blogs from PA Mom etc? Don't they know that this is all a scam? They must not fully understand that their is a $5 direct depoist fee every month !!!! That's $60 a year for goodness sake!!!! LOL
I guess all these people are stupid and PA Mom and the others have it all figured out.
Truth is, I can actually start bashing STE everyday on multiple blogs and my web-site WOULD STILL GROW EXPONENTIALLY. People are smarter than you think. They are voting with their dollars and BUYING WEBSITES!!! whether they work them or not is their responsibility not YOURS!
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joeo
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:01
So let me get this straight, MLM's are scams and simply don't work because most people fail? hmmm like 95% of the people will just not make it huh? And this is proven when you point out a few websites that have show only $15.00 profit/cashback??
Well then, using that logic, why doesn't the FTC shut down Weight Watchers? and Slim Fast? and Jenny Craig and Nutrisystem? The facts are the same - 95% of the people that join these weight loss programs don't lose any weight. AND if they do, they put it back on and sometimes even more - which is much worse.
They SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BUY TV COMMERCIALS AND BILLBOARDS! If 95% of these people will just waste their time and money, shouldn't they be shut down? Isn't all this just a scam to get them to pay their membership dues and buy their prepared frozen dinners and snack bars? SCAM!!!! If you are overweight and can't lose weight IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT !!! You're not lazy or uninspired, you've simply been scammed by diet programs that are statistically proven to never work for 95% of the population. So logically you should just give up and don't try to lose weight and get healthy, right?? - don't even try!!!
Oh, and by the way, if you happen to find a program that DOES work for you and you actually lost weight and kept it off DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH ANYONE. YOUR FRIENDS WILL HATE YOU FOR IT!!! Because let's face it, you lost some weight but they probably still won't. So keep it to yourself! Get thin and healthy and tell no one how you did it.
If my friend was making money with STE and didn't tell me about it, then he is not a friend.
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 10:55
Hello all.
I just would like to respond to some of the comments here. I was researching how to open my own website that I was going to do affiliate marketing on. The time, effort, and money that I wasted on it was crazy.
I work in the IT field of a very large company, I truly see the earning power of this website, they are not trying to scam people they are only trying to get people to go through their portal to shop... Is that wrong???
I know for a fact that my wife and I spend at least $200.00 a month at Target, why not go through my own site and get paid back?
I do not think that this is a scam, there are affiliate links all over the internet. Big companies would rather pay a small affiliate fee then take a add out in the Sunday paper, or pay for a high price commercial. Think about it, it makes sense.
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coco16141
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 20:48
Like you I recently joined Shoptoearn... it has been hard getting referrals but I am not giving up. I see it as a business not really to get cash back... if managed correctly it could be a great opportunity... You should set up weekly or bi-weekly meeting to present STE to other people... I do have meetings every week in my house (Miami, FL) and I am hoping to get more referrals soon!! What can I loose?? no more than 448 usd... 338 since I have my first referral...
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FFVictor
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2008 01:27
Thanks PAMom. I read the report but didn't catch the majority (50%) thing the first time. I'm in STE and I know it works but gotta admit, I'm a little worried about the longevity of the company. I emailed the attorney of STE with these questions; I'm still waiting for a reply.
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FFVictor
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2008 15:24
Hi Everyone,
I just recieved an email reply from the STE attorney and he states that the FTC does NOT require 50% of retail sales to come from outside customers. Also that if it was required, then more then half the businesses on the DSA.org (Direct Selling Association) would be shut down. STE has applied to the DSA but there is a one year waiting period before a company is listed as a full member.
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PAMom
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 09:32
gelo04,
I checked your STE Web site out on Oct. 10th before they took down the $ My Check information which was part of their open concept. They changed their tune quickly once it was revealed that many people were not breaking even months after they had signed up, making very little money on their cash back and primarily making money from recruiting.
Anyway, back to you. As of Oct 10th you had made $95 (from recruiting one person minus the $5 direct deposit fee). You had $0 from shopping. Even if you purchase $200 per month from Target and get 5 % back (Target states up to 10 % but most products are much less than that) or $10.00, you have to pay shipping which will cause you to break even or lose money. Then you have to wait weeks to months for it to post to your account, track your receipts and pay a $5 monthly direct deposit fee. Have you saved anything? Again, you can do the very same thing for free at sooo many other sites and get points for others that shop under you.
STE is all about recruiting and investors are upfront about that. They will tell you that you make your money recruiting. It's sad how naive the public is about this type of scheme. Most people grow pale when they hear that such a business model is illegal. Not only are they involved, they have "recruited" their friends, family and co-workers into a diabolical plot.
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joeo
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 10:31
JoeO says:
Diabolical plot !!! funny stuff and there goes PA Mom again with her $5 direct deposit fee! Let's face it, if your counting pennies like this YOU ARE NOT FIT TO BE A BUSINESS OWNER OF ANY KIND.
Imagine taking a client out to lunch and cringing when they order an extra appetizer for $7.95 and then maybe a double espresso as compared to a single espresso? How would you even be able to concentrate as your money is flying out the window!! LOL
Instead of beating up people that signed on and are too lazy to get anything working with their STE program, why don't you try to motivate them? Are you type of person that bashes people for buying a fitness membership and don't show up anymore? How about people who buy DVD's on how to learn a new language and never watch it more than once. SCAMS!!!! Diabolical plot!!!
Such silliness really. More mis-information . . .Prices are higher on line? people are too lazy to go one block to get their stuff? shipping costs? everyone knows that some have them and some don't - it depends on the individual stores. And btw, sales tax can actually be less on-line.
And even funnier is Income Taxes? These naysayers are down to trying to slam STE with income tax issues? First off, no company takes any responsilbilty for individual tax returns. Companies pay out money and YOU are on your own with the IRS. The Gov't doesn't care what you were told by your company or even your CPA - in the end its your responsibility.
With regards to cash cash-back from a store, dealer or manufacturer IT IS tax-free. Everyone knows that. Do you pay taxes when you get your $50 mail-in rebate when you get a new cell phone from Verizon? NO, because your getting your 'already taxed money' back.
I will make over $60k this year with STE (signed up June 1st) and of course most of this is from commissions. I will gladly pay my taxes on the income! STE will give me a 1099 for the commission total. The cash back on my purchases is tax-free. This is business 101.
PLEASE STOP THE STUPIDITY.
Here it is directly from the IRS website:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch12.html#publink100033109
Cash rebates. A cash rebate you receive from a dealer or manufacturer of an item you buy is not income, but you must reduce your basis by the amount of the rebate.
Example.
You buy a new car for $9,000 cash and receive a $400 rebate check from the manufacturer. The $400 is not income to you. Your basis in the car is $8,600. This is your basis on which you figure gain or loss if you sell the car, and depreciation if you use it for business.
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 15:22
PAMom,
I have a few questions for you.
1. Have you ever worked in network marketing?
2. Have you ever signed up for shoptoearn and had a bad experience?
And for your information they just did not take away the $ my check part off our website and not tells about it. They gave us the reason why they did it, and we can see the $ my check part when we log into our site.
To answer your question about the shipping you are dead wrong again, we ordered a 10 piece cookware set from Macy's on Friday and will be delivered tomorrow, I know this because we have a valid tracking number from Macy's........ Guess what the shipping was FREE!!!
Stop trying to talk about a product that you do not know anything about you are making yourself look stupid.
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PAMom
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 15:40
gelo04,
So I am the stupid one? (That's rhetorical.) Didn't your mother tell you it's not nice to call people names? I took the verbiage directly from STE about removing the $ My Check. Of course they notified you-duh.
So you got free shipping from Macy's. Good for you. But you probably paid too much anyway even with your cash back. I copied this from another blog and this comparison gives you free shipping as well. But I am sorry, you should have shopped elsewhere and not your STE portal.
"If it's true that they have to pay taxes on the cash back, then the business model gets even more ludicrous. Paying more for items than you should because you didn't use a search engine, paying taxes and shipping. Oh yea, this is the wave of the future.
Show me the facts you said. Here is just one example if you are purchasing the Nikon Coolpix 10 MP camera in black. You go to Best Buy on your STE portal. Wow, it's free shipping and I get up to 3 % cash back. But you should have gone to Buy.com because�
Best Buy - $179.99 plus tax (6 %) = $190.78 minus your 3 % cash back (it's up to 3% and I will give you the best deal even though most products at Best Buy are not 3% cash back) of $5.40 plus your 30% taxes on $5.40 or $1.62 = $187.00
Buy.com = $158.70 plus tax (6%) = 168.22 plus $9 in shipping = $177.22
Yes you paid $9.78 more! Even if you don't pay taxes on your cash back you still are paying $8.16 more."
LOL. Thanks for the laugh.
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 15:56 · Edited by: gelo04
This is the last time that I will reply to you.
You are not worth the time.
With your brilliant model listed below:
Best Buy - $179.99 plus tax (6 %) = $190.78 minus your 3 % cash back (it's up to 3% and I will give you the best deal even though most products at Best Buy are not 3% cash back) of $5.40 plus your 30% taxes on $5.40 or $1.62 = $187.00
Buy.com = $158.70 plus tax (6%) = 168.22 plus $9 in shipping = $177.22
Yes you paid $9.78 more! Even if you don't pay taxes on your cash back you still are paying $8.16 more."
Why would I not go through the buy.com link on our website and save an additional 3% ???
Can you please let me know when you write your book on how to make money on the internet I would love to buy a copy, and when I do I will through my website so I can get the cash back... LOL
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PAMom
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 16:50
gelo04,
Don't go away. Did you know that you don't get the best price on the Nikon Coolpix 10 MP S550 if you go through your affliate link on STE? That's right. It's $179. You will get $10 off if you spend more than $200. As for the 3 %, it's up to 3 % off with most of the products at zero off or under 3 % genius.
Here's the link from the STE site for the camera at $179 (you might have to copy and paste)
http://www.buy.com/retail/usersearchresults.asp?querytype=home&qu=nikon+coolpix+S550& qxt=home&display=col
Here's the comparison shopping link for the camera from Buy.com at $158.70
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=nikon+coolpix+10+MP&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid= 2412144734401447144&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&resnum=2&ct=result#ps-sellers
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Greg Souris
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Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 17:17
I love people who don't have the facts!
I love people who don't understand MLMs.
I especially love people who try to create doubt and scare people when they don't have all the facts..
The people involved in this MLM, if they work it can do very well. The one's who complain the most about it are the one's looking for the get rich quick schemes.
Shoptoearn is like any other business, you get out of it what you put into it. The money is in the shopping and refering people to shop. Recruiting well, determines the success of your downline. Do not sign up everyone, because most people are lazy, get people to join who like to shop online and are outgoing and not afraid to show people a business opportunity. The business model works fine for those who learn it and duplicate it. The main reason why this MLM is different and better than most, is because instead of one company and their product line, like most MLMs; there are 600 major retailers and products you purchase everyday. It's not a scam or a pyramid scheme, they are illegal. Funny most people don't even know what a pyramid scheme is. Network marketing is not a pyramid scheme people. If it was, shoptoearn would never have got the IRS and AG involved in State compliance laws to become legal. If you wants facts, let me know, if you just want to talk nonsense or argue, don't waste my time. This company is Real, their business model is simple. If you don't like MLMs, don't join and keep your opinions to yourself instead of filling peoples minds with doubt!
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