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# Posted: 27 May 2007 07:01
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I actually think the Funtime vacations appear to be a decent little product. I haven't look carefully nor seen the T&C. I see massive improvements to their sites since I last looked at it a few months ago.
What I would like to see, however- those of us that have had bad experiences with Rusty himself. I think we should write Al at the BOD about it. Just to make him aware. I think if several people have had that kind of experience- it just goes to show how ethical that business might be.
My big concern, with this or any other new provider or attached opportunity- is keeping the name and reputation of CV on the top shellf.
I'm ALL for making money and providing folks with the products and services they WANT. But at days end, I'm NOT all about the money. I have to say, I really did not like being approached by funtime reps who were unsuccessful coastal directors via the google ppc listings. I didn't like hearing bad things about my company via the head honcho over their. I don't like the idea of recruiting from within, and I am not thrilled or enamoured with the idea of attaching an MLM opportunity to CV. To me, that we are one of the FEW non MLM home based business out here speaks to the equal opportunity that everyone has when first starting out in this business. I realize its "3 and its free" but to me, a pyramid is STILL a pyramid!
At the end of the day, mind you- I trust Al and the BOD. They have been doing this longer then I have so I fully expect they know exactly what it is they are doing and that they are minded to sustain this opportunity and our reputation. As it stands, mind you.. I'm tempted to sit on my heels and watch for a while.
I'm an entrepreneur, and I'm all for having additional streams of income. Particularily passive streams. But I know that the stability of any company, MLM ops in particular is always in question early on in the business. Granted, its a risk worth taking for some to be on the ground floor. But again, I'm not all about money. I really NEED to know that there are ethical people, practices and standards in place as well as an outstanding product, stable company structure and pay plan. So far, I see the folks over at funtime are trying and seem to be making progress. But I have not seen enough there yet with some of the unfortunate happenings I've witnessed to be able to put my name behind it and promote to my team or others.
Just my .02!
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 09:14
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Quoting: ateamfuntimer Stay tuned as an announcement will probably be made at the CV regional in Vegas.
So a FT plus CV director is telling us CV Directors that an announcement will be made by the BOD at the conference
How and why do the FT people know this BEFORE we do and BEFORE the announcement is made, teasing and courting us to join under them yet won't reveal the details??
First of all don't say that the BOD will make an "announcement" like you know the "secret" and expect us to join under you!!
Again I have to ask why do FT people know the details before we do and won't share them? They already made an announcement but wont give the details, maybe you all should have shut up until CV did make the announcement you think?????
Terri
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 11:20
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Ditto on that, Terri! Like the old lady said in an old Harvey's Hambuger restaurant chain commercial up here a few years back..."Where's the beef??"
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 20:30
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Hello all,
I apologize for the slow response but to be honest im just really busy running my business and only come in here from time to time. I will try and answer so of the questions that have been asked of me directly in one swoop. Again I apologize for the slow response but with all the opportunity out there in my community, from my leads, my advertising and even the personal emails ive received from some of you business take first crack at my time.
Lets start with Terri ( btw Terri I got you email and the best way to get all you questions answered directly from me is to call the number I sent back to you). What do you do with 40,000 leads? Well that a good problem. Lets say it this way. I used to be in law enforcement and when something went down id rather have 4 officers next to me and not need them than have none and need them all. In the lead game more is better. Now I do let my system both my auto responder with Fun Time and my CSG MAC system send them out info. I call back the ones that have looked through info. To me that means they have some interest. If I cant call 40,000 people so what I call as many as I need to. The rest still get the email campaign. Also Terri as I know there is no special deal for being a coastal member and joining Fun Time. Not sure if Al is doing anything special about that at the CV Regional. I would say this. Being there is a residual income to this program I would join asap so as more people want to come in they can under your organization and you make a higher residual. Position yourself right.
Okay Noreen,
You can join Fun Time any time and dont have to be a Coastal member. And as a Coastal member you dont have to join Fun TIme. I say the two fit together as they are both in travel. I use the Fun Time vouchers ( which I get paid for when customers activate them) as an incentive to get a client to my Coastal website. As for a demo site I dont have one for you but I can say this the back office and training is good and to te point and easy to navigate. Remember I was part of the CSG Leadership that brought the CSG MAc system to our base. Now im pretty handy on a computer and have to say the CSG MAC system does a bunch and the new Fun Time back office is more that adequate.
BTW guys the music on my website is a song called "Enjoy" by Janet Jackson. That is my wife's favorite artist so I made the site and added that song.
I hope to continue the conversation on Fun Time. I like to say that every opportunity isnt for everyone and im not here to sell anyone anything. Now would I like for you guys to join my team ...of course. That only make business sense and we are in business to make money. I would say that for me the pros really out weighed the con's and as there is no obligation and contract to sign you can get out any time. But let me tell you a story. I started a young lady a month ago in Fun Time. When her renewal for the next month came up she was thinking of quitting. Now I had helped her get her first member in her downline. This person in her downline has put 5 people in her downline since then and that means a residual of $250 for the lady that was going to quit. In her first month her system now cost her $50 a month from now on. Needless to say she is staying put as each month as she grows a team her income will grow. So with stories like that why wouldnt you get involved.
In addition to talking here I have a wide variety of different opportunities I work in including buisness and personal coaching. Check out my site and be on the look out for a book im writing as well as a line of business products. Talk soon.
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 21:04
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For all that have doubt about anything going on with Fun Time and CV id suggest getting on the BOD calls and asking questions. The Coastal/Fun Time website is up and running so ask Al. New cards have been printed so be ready when you send out packages. As a planner of events I understand the build up. Just more umph for your event . Not everyone in CV reads this forum. So many of the world wide CV members will get the news after its officially announced. There is no secret. That is "the beef" as Jani referred to of the matter. And if you look at my quote that was copied and pasted the word "PROBABLY" is prominent. As someone who stands by my word I pick my words wisely and yes im human and make mistakes but try my best to say what I mean and mean what I say. I have personally spoke to a few of you on this forum and have done my best to inform you of the full details as I have come to know them. If in my quest to do so if I am misunderstood I apologize. But you can contact me to go over any questions. I understand the reasoning of a forum but also know personally how some of the members have used this forum to personally attack others. I know of a prominent member of this forum who I have spoke to personally that is a member of Coastal and gave a team mate alot of slack for joining Fun Time and then attacked them in a forum. That in my opinion is wrong. This forum is not for attack but rather an exchange of ideas. The "Secret" has taught me there is enough for us all out there and not all of us want the same thing. So lets get out of the attacking mode and get back to more of the information gathering and sharing. Imagine a new prospect coming on here and you losing a sale as they see all the bickering back and forth. Just food for thought.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 22:09
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Right Adam..
So, as for information gathering and sharing- I did not yet receive an e-mail from you? I'm sure you have been very busy with the many different projects you have on your plate.
Actually- I think better for all- would you mind posting that link and other pertinent info up here so that everyone can go and look see? That would give everyone some beef so there can be some intellegent discussion about this potential "new" (though not so new) venture.
I've actually had a team member of mine go to funtime as well- the feedback from him and others that I know- was really not very good either. So, I'm really curious to see what improvements have been made as funtime prepares to come under the CV banner. I know the websites are looking MUCH better. So, I can see that they are actually trying at it pretty hard!
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# Posted: 28 May 2007 10:27
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Its funny how things can be spinned on a forum. Yes I havent sent you the email as of yet but we spent about an hour on the phone talking about Fun Time Jani. Why did you fail to mention that we did have a conversation. In that conversation we talked at length about Fun Time. From that conversation you are looking for me to send you a screen shot of info about the back office. I will get around to sending you some info but from our conversation I did say im not trying to sell you anything and from your replies your definitely arent buying Fun Time. In my business I spend my time with those who are looking for an opportunity. In my thoughts you are looking to bad mouth Fun Time and not looking for an opportunity. If you had got all the negative feedback from someone that you are prospecting about Coastal as I have gotten from you about Fun Time I know you would just leave that person be. To be honest that is my thought process on this with you. You arent going to join Fun Time and you just really want to talk negatively ( but in a controlled fashion ) about it. This is only my humble opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I will send you the numbers of the Fun Time Opportunity call so you can direct all your questions directly to the source. Now dont say im trying to hide now im just not willing to spend my precious time and energy on someone that no matter what I say or do will have nothing good to say about Fun Time or will ever join. I have made my decision to use Fun Time with amazing results and a bunch of people have followed me making that decision for themselves after looking at the facts. Having been in Coastal 2 yrs now I have seen people do the same about Coastal. And you know what they see it works they see the change in my lifestyle. They see the HBC magazine we were featured in May 2006. But they still have a wait and see attitude. Well the train is moving....it will be back to pick up the straglers (sp) but im not waiting, im onboard and on my trip. I will send you an email with the Fun Time Call schedule. They opportunity calls are held every tuesday and thursday. I will post the number here and if the admin dept lets it through great. If not ill personally email it to you after bbq today. That number is 402 756 9000 pincode 1025286# and the calls are held every tuesday and thursday night @ 9pm est.
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# Posted: 28 May 2007 19:08
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Just curious, what troubles has Coastal been having with InteleTravel? And conversly, what types of troubles have Coastal Director had with FunTime?
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# Posted: 28 May 2007 19:31
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Hey guys,
Hope everyone is enjoying Memorial Day. In this day and time when we have soldiers dying overseas we must acknowledge the sacrifice they are making. So enjoy the day.
I wanted to be sure to get back on this post and update a few things. Its rather difficult to keep up with all the post in all the sections and stay on top of it all. So for that I commend you guys. I will do my best to keep up. A few questions seem to come up all the time. The first is why hasnt it been announced. Well im not the authority to answer this. I was informed there had been some announcements referring to this new program on the BOD Calls. Id go to the source and ask on the calls if I were you guys.
The second question is about what does the auto-responder do with the leads? They get emails about travel packages and the fun time opportunity. Now this is what we do with those leads as well. In the CSG MAC system we have email campaigns that go out to a client for a length of time. I copied and pasted those campaign letters made them my own and added all of my 40,000 leads to that campaign. Now that might seem technical but its really a few clicks of a mouse and you are done. Many of the CSG members are sending those leads to the movie site with great results.
As for the residual income question at the top level its like this. You pay $300 a month for your system (leads, certificates,autoresponder, back office and training) each person you bring into the program that gets this same program gives you a residual of $100 so with three people your system is now free. You also get paid on 5 levels and to best understand it you can go to the website and click on the residual income link on the site. This is the generic site ill put it here and see if the admin lets it go through. If not just contact me and ill give you my site.
Hope some of the info helps.
Adam
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# Posted: 28 May 2007 22:01
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Adam..
I don't know how you ever got the impression that I would "never join funtime". What I simply said to you, was that I- like MANY others here was not heretofor impressed by several things, and I tried to explain to you what those things were. As I am not the only person on this board who has had these experiences, you might think there is something to what we are saying? Now, I realize you can't be held accountable for other peoples actions- but you certainly can be for your own. To me, it isn't appropriate to only showcase the $$ potential when it is CLEAR there has been admin and ethical concerns in the past. Now, if that is all cleared up in the present- then all I and others need (I think?) is information and assurances that this company is getting on track. I've tried to say that I HAVE seen them trying- I do note the much improved replicated sites.
What I was asking for- you said there was a website for funtime AND coastal already up? Somewhere- can we all go have a look at that that are INTERESTED in staying open minded and doing our due diligence?
My only comments are honest and from my experience. I'm sorry for not informing everyone that we spent an hour on the phone. I do appreciate your valuable time, but I still am someone who requires something to look at. I don't care about POTENTIAL- I care about facts, ethics and the present situation- that to ME- speaks towards the future. Owl personality, you know!
Actually, if I was speaking with someone about Coastal who had valid and genuine concerns, even bad experiences- I would do my very utmost to get them the information they requested and needed. I would listen to them when they said things like they had concerns about ethics and cross promoting 2 separate businesses and help them come to terms with that. If I said I would send them an e-mail- I most certainly would. But, that is me....
Obviously, I am a busy person too- I hardly have the time myself to sit around chatting and trying to LEARN and get factual information about a new opportunity and its support, system training and resources etc etc if I wasn't interested in finding out more- I don't know if you were aware that I actually had guests and usually do some work while my daughter is napping?
I understand that you have had very different experiences and believe strongly that this is a great money making opportunity for everyone. While I have some difficulties seeing exactly how and why and making it all kosher in my head- I am certainly interested in finding out how you have found YOUR perspective- because I am standing from the outside looking in. To me, the fact that you have made money in 6 weeks is NOT enough. I am not YOU Adam, and while I respect and admire your accomplishments I have no desire to BE you or DO what it is you do. I do not have the kind of sales skills or personality that you have, obviously. What I need to know is- is there a duplicable system, a strong support team, access to quality information, decent products and services, ethical marketing and business practice?
This is what I looked for when I found Coastal and the CSG. Incedentally- I had VERY bad experiences with other groups and directors before I found my director and the CSG- and I joined her team because she gave me straight facts and direct information when I asked- even if it wasn't the rosiest of details. I WAS the ultimate skeptic, I had seen the scam and rip off reports and talked to several "directors" one who is on the FBA blacklist. I STILL kept looking at the opportunity to see both sides of the equation. This is called research. To do it, you need information. That is what I have always asked for when contacted by funtime reps. That is what I am asking for now- and I believe others are too!
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
btw- you told me that the new back office rivaled the CSG MAC- so I asked if you would show it to me. You said you would not let me into your backoffice- obviously you don't have that software- so YOU OFFERED to send me screen captures so I could see it. I DID NOT ASK- you offered, I said thanks- and am still waiting for that as well as the links and other info you mentioned! I think it would be GREAT if you can post any of it here for everyone else. You have a captive audience of entrepreneurs- go for it!
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# Posted: 28 May 2007 23:06
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This is incredible. I love that we have a back and forth conversation on a real interesting topic. This is going to be a moot topic when you order your next Coastal Package for a customer and they receive info on Fun Time in their order. Im just making you all aware of what is coming out. The website that all of you can see that is with Coastal and Fun Time is http://www.myftvclub.biz/coastal Please look it over everyone on this forum. Now to handle the issue of my back office. As I remember clearly you Jani pushed to see it. As someone who has given me such accolades on the CSG calls in the past and has used my story on at least one occasion to my knowledge to close a Coastal deal I thought that maybe I owed at least that to you. I am also aware of your thoughts about Fun Time as you and I talked at length directly about it. I was faced with a decision when we talked about my back office. Now most of us dont share our back office with people outside of our immediate teams. But I also wanted to show you that in the short months since Fun Time Vacation Club and it's lead generation program that we are talking about (not Fun Time as a vendor already in our package that is 16 years old) was started in Dec 2006 and has grown to what it is now. Now having served on the CSG Leadership Board and being instrumental in helping create the CSG MAC system that you choose to build your Coastal business I figured if I said the Fun Time system is more than adequate you might take my word for it. I dont know how many of you on this forum open up your back office to the entire forum. If that is a common practice then im more than willing to oblige and cant wait to see what systems you all use so I can figure out what system is best for my needs as an entrepreneur and the overall needs of my team. Again all info about Fun Time can be asked on their live calls tuesday and thursday. Many of you have the number or can easily get it by emailing me or asking many of your team mates that are using the program. Its not for everyone but I figured if it was going to be part of my Coastal Package id at least have to see what it is and if its going to benefit me. Well I saw it did. I did what we tell everyone we all speak to over and over to do. We suggest they do their due diligence by going to the website and looking over the info then getting on a live call and getting their questions answered. Its the same simple system we all use. If something is in your package you owe it to your customers that you market this amazing product to that you know whats in it. So get the facts from the source. I can go back and forth every post on how great it is but the bottom line is that the product is in the package. Do your due diligence and get the facts from the source. The website and the live call. See you there I will be more than willing to add my testimony. Have a great day everyone. Anyone looking to change there life right now get in touch with me asap!! If you are looking to keep your team mates motivated and in the game I can show you how. We have done it in the last two months. Many of our team mates have created residual incomes that already pay for their systems and whats even better is the person who got us in is racking up in residual income. Maybe you have a growing star in your organization, how about giving them a tool to take their business to the next level will also feeding your Coastal and Fun Time residual income business. If thats you then contact me and lets talk about how everyone that is looking for a way to take their business to the next level has been able to with this program. We are again on the cutting edge of an idea is going to change the industry for the better. Many of you know we where in the same situation when we got involved with the CSG and you all see where that has gone to. This started in December and its now only May. That is incredible growth. What do you see as the projections for next May and better yet where do you want to position yourself for that growth? Thats the million dollar question! And I literally mean million dollar question as we see this as an opportunity to earn just that through multiple streams of income available and never have to buy leads again as the residual income will always cover that expense. That sounds like a winner to me and my residual check are showing the same. See you at the top!!!
Adam
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 07:55 · Edited by: luvtravel
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Adam, I gave you every opp to explain what the "new" Coastal/Funtime program would be like. You didn't until Sportnut gave all of us the URL to the demo CV/FT site.
Adam what is the FT opp call phone number for Tues and Thur? And please no coy answers!
All CV Directors how do you feel about the fact that according to Adam all Coastal pkgs going out have the FT opp already in the package?
In my opinion to offer another biz-opp and place it in a pkg BEFORE they notified us Directors, (for those of us who have the pkg sent direct to client) is just plain wrong!!!
This whole thing is just wrong in the way the BOD is handling this.
FT told their dist about the CV/FT merge and yet here we are waiting till their convention of which most of us will not be there to "announce" this?
Just plain wrong!! (I mean the way CV is handling this not the FT program)
Terri
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 08:14
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Funtime dist what is the name of the travel agency that funtime uses?
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 08:24
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THANK-YOU ADAM! That was the link, I was looking for..
Have to correct you though- I haven't used your story to close coastal deals- but your story was the one that closed MY deal to get involved with the CSG. I don't know if you are aware, but I have watched your entire career with the CSG and remember hearing you guys on the q&a calls as PROSPECTS months before I was able to get started myself. I have actually been listening to CSG calls for some time now. As I said, I am very much a research girl- before I joined- I listened to and investigated thoroughly ALL of the major groups and know of their strengths and limitations. I settled where I have because I knew that the product was universal but that success for CSG members is much more smoothed out because of that back office's comprehensive, systemized duplicability.
Yes, as far as I am aware- many of us are using gotomeeting to show people our systems. Jeff actually pointed out here to me the benefit of its counterpart, gotowebinar (thanks again, btw- I had never HEARD of that!) for group trainings. While I can appreciate you not wanting to show your emails and prospect lists etc etc- I do think that since there has been in the past that I AM aware of problems with the support and training piece- there would be value in seeing the equivalent of the dashboard. And yes, I will also be listening in on some of those calls and so forth. My concern with any venture is always system, training, support and thus- duplicability. To me, a strong system gives everyone-regardless of limitations or previously existing skills those kind of tools- together with a very strong and in demand product so that every person has equal opportunity for success!
My comment and concern- is that I AM NOT now nor have I ever been a "salesperson". I don't want to be either its really NOT my style- and it is very obvious to me especially after speaking with you and looking around your website- that you very much ARE someone with that talent and skillset.
Incedentally, I have been in the back offices of ALL the major groups- I can assure you- being that kind of data and research girl-- the CSG not only has the most comprehensive, user friendly and complete system- but that they are one of the few who over-deliver on the support, technology and training pieces and as far as I am aware- the only group that offers a residual stream of income opportunity with the back office program. You can be rest assured, as an entrepreneur that your team really DOES have the best of the best to date! I don't need to tell you of the continual updates and innovations or the awesome power of the system- so I don't see that part changing. Although, I must say- the new bod backoffice is coming up to speed. I'm very encouraged by that!
I have to tell you- most of us here (that I am aware of) have already changed our lives for the better!
One question I have- you are using the funtime disney certs (that are not also in the coastal package? will they be added, or is that an upgrade like intele?) to incentivize folks to walk through your MAC system I believe? So when they get back to you- you are speaking with them about Coastal but letting them know that it was a funtime cert and NOT something in the actual Coastal package? Or is it soon going to be in the coastal package?
Right now, many of us promote our businesses by giving away certs already in the package- so I am wondering- is this how you then present both opportunities or do you present coastal first and funtime at a later time? Am I wrong in thinking that you are really more focused on the funtime opportunity at this time?
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Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 18:47
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Thanks for the reply. I use the certs from Fun Time to promote my Coastal site. The reason behind that is we make a commission on activated vacations. I have also seen in my experience that most of my team mates pay at least $300 a month on leads. So this is a good fit for them. The incentive doesnt really matter as much as the fact they can get to my site. As Fun Time is part of the package it only makes sense to use those certs where we get a commission back. The same can be done with any certs in your Coastal package and many members do that as well. I hope that helps. And Jani if you would like to get started in Fun Time I would be more than happy to show you how to be as successful as you want to be.
Adam
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 00:31
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So I take it fun time members must buy a package to become a coastal director just like each member of Coastal did when they joined?
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 07:46
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Quoting: cgmom So I take it fun time members must buy a package to become a coastal director just like each member of Coastal did when they joined?
Yes that's correct.
And Coastal Directors have to buy a pkg from Funtime to be a Funtime member.
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 08:13
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Quoting: ateamfuntimer And Jani if you would like to get started in Fun Time I would be more than happy to show you how to be as successful as you want to be.
Thank you for offering to share your valuable time and knowledge with me Adam. At this point, I still have many of the same questions and concerns I had before speaking with you. I am working away at my due diligence (when I'm not busy with my Coastal business or my life!). The biggest concerns I have are for ethical business practice, support and duplicability for my current and future team, stability and how exactly I would manage 2 businesses when I already have one very successful one AND a very demanding toddler. I also have no equivalent of April in my life, and REALLY value both being able to provide significant one on one training and have a robust personal life.
It occurs to me since speaking with you and the continuation of this thread that our personalities and philosophies are significantly different. This realization has been quite personally disappointing but it is differences that make the world go 'round. I think, however- we would not be able to work effectively together.
I do thank you very much, however for your time and wish you continued success with your Funtime venture.
Cheers
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 09:41
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Well, I am not going to do anything different! I am going run my Coastal business as though nothing has changed. I have been successful thus far and am leaving my job in two weeks to run my business full-time. I don't want to join Fun-time or I would have prior to Coastal! I don't think there is any benefit here! Can someone please give me Al's web address and/or number? I would really appreciate! To everyone's success!!
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 10:02
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Quoting: cgmom Can someone please give me Al's web address and/or number? I would really appreciate! To everyone's success!!
That's what I would like as well, Al's phone number or email address.
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 17:49
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ummmmmmm.......
can anyone answer my original post?
I don't see the answer here yet.
Harold, you nailed the intent of my post.
With Coastal we sell information memberships, we don't sell travel, we sell info about how to save on travel.
Now, if we have to join funtime, or take on funtime, because of every countries or states federal regulation of "sellers of travel sevices..."
Will we or won't we have to get a license, pay lots of money to legally sell Funtimes certs, or are we under the company and therefore can use their umbrella license as our own and protected?
I can also appreicate the extra knowledge and posts here in this one thread. But...
That is what I am looking for an answer to...
Can anyone help out a brotha?
jeff
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 20:11
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Jeff, make sure and ask Al that question when you go to Vegas. Did you guy have a good time down South of the Border?
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2007 10:35
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Sorry Jeff.. that is exactly one of the issues I am stuggling with too!
I'm sure the answer will be made clear eventually!
Have fun in Vegas!
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2007 16:15
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Great convo. Let me answer a few questions that have come up. Again I apologize for the delayed response. I dont always post in here everyday. As far as I have heard there is no special deal for anyone in Coastal. Im a CSG member and by that it mean I use the CSG MAC system to run my business but I market the COASTAL VACATIONS PACKAGE. There is no difference in us all other than the fact we use different systems. Its like we all sell the same burgers but I use a flame-broil grill but you use a a regular grill. We still sell the same burgers and are backed by the same entity. So no there was no deal for us as CV members. Now to address the cost issue. Here are my cost before I got involved with Fun Time Leads:
Level III Package = $11000
CSG MAC System = $149.95 a month
Leads = $600 -$1000 a month
Now with Fun Time Lead Program
I still have my Level III Package = $11000
CSG MAC System = $149.95 a month
Leads = $300 a month
That at the very least is a $300 a month savings. Over 12 months I save $3600. To me that makes good business sense. I going to be paying for leads regardless for why not get a discount. Now maybe some of you dont prospect anymore. That is a large percentage of us that build teams. Well all of you new team mates need leads dont they? Why not get 40,000 yourself a month for the $300 and put your teammates under you and get residual income. How about using the leads as incentives to get team members started. Might get someone to come in at level II if they got leads from you as well. Maybe as a appreciation award for a a member that just got qualified. Hey you guys are bright look at the marketing possibilities. We can do as we wish with this gift.
As for the question of why would Coastal want directors to push Fun Time. Why wouldnt they? Its part of the package. It gets people making money and solves a problem so many of us have. The problem of affordable leads. To me that seems like a good reason but hey its only me and Ive gotten started and done well. As an entrepreneur I look for opportunities and jump on them when I see them. I saw Coastal that way. Saw it on a tuesday got started on thursday and 7 weeks later made over 10k. Well in my first 7 weeks with Fun Time ive created a residual monthly income in the thousands. Good move on my part in my opinion. All of you can look on my website and find a way to contact me if want to talk directly.
Adam
Coastal Level III
Fun Time Super Elite Distributor
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2007 16:43
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Geez you are right - that CSG package is pricey. Well, I pay 49.95 per month for my website and backoffice. It shows me the notes taken by the guys at the call center as prospects call in. I have an organized list of all of all of my opt-ins. It also includes literally hundreds of marketing ideas and recorded trainings. My budget went to marketing only. I did not get in to buying or calling leads at all.
I also have a retail site that I don't spend money to market, I just send people there who are interested in the membership only.
But now I have contact mate which was a one time purchase. I can now run thousands of leads through that with a autoresponder campaign. I think my budget will be less than 300 for the leads, but you can get plenty of leads for less than that. And I can do all kinds of campaigns. So different types of leads need different emails. I also have a voiceblast system but the really unique thing about that is that contactmate is, I believe, the only system on the market that will actually say the prospect' name. That is a big plus over the general messages.
But this should be under a different thread because Jeff's original questions STILL has not been addressed.
Noreen
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2007 17:16
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Fun Time Leads program is and will be part of the Coastal Package. Yes it does sort $300 at the top level. But thats for 40,000 leads. And you can even get started at Fun Time for as little as $39 a month. So go to the site and look at the info. If you need further questions answered about this issue or if you would like to pick my brain on Coastal be sure to contact me via my signature line.
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2007 17:29
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Quoting: decker2006 also have a retail site that I don't spend money to market, I just send people there who are interested in the membership only. But now I have contact mate which was a one time purchase. I can now run thousands of leads through that with a autoresponder campaign. I think my budget will be less than 300 for the leads, but you can get plenty of leads for less than that. And I can do all kinds of campaigns. So different types of leads need different emails. I also have a voiceblast system but the really unique thing about that is that contactmate is, I believe, the only system on the market that will actually say the prospect' name. That is a big plus over the general messages.
Noreen have you tried all the bells and whistles with Contact mate?
Who did the retail site for you, is it a e-commerce site as well?
I'm interested in VoiceBlast.
Do you get a 800# with CM?
Thanks
Terri
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 09:40
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Does the contactmate software offer an autoresponder service included? If so, is there a limit on the number of contacts, emails sent out, etc?
Thanks in advance
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 10:40
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Yes, the autoresponder service is included. You can have a unlimited number of campaigns going on at the same time. You just have to write them. But I take a lot from the WCYS autoresponder and other prewritten material so it is not like you have to make it up from scratch.
No limit on the number of contacts you can load or the amount of emails you can send out.
You do not get an 800number with Contact mate. What I did find out is that with Skype, which I have, you can't do the "press 1 for the call center, press 2 to leave me a message." You have to use another voip service, I can't think of the name, but it is much more expensive then Skype. For the time being, I will just stick with what I have and maybe upgrade in the future. I still can use the voiceblast as is.
Noreen
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2007 14:23
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Hi Terri,
I've been reading all the back and forth going on about Coastal and Funtime and I'm wondering were you able to listen to the Funtime confrence call?
If so please fill us in!
Thanks,Cindy
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