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jr_red
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#1 · Posted: 3 Aug 2010 01:28
I need some advice on this. I am trying to build up muscles and lose weight fast. What are your advice on this?
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#2 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 08:15
What plan do you need advice on? You are kinda in the wrong forum but someone may be able to help you.
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kenwrites
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#3 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 09:33
Yea, bit of the wrong forum but
70% raw food
Beans, hemp seed for protein. Nuts and seeds in moderation as well as avocado in moderation. Nuts and seeds good for protein, high fat content.
Lots of water
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Margo Tuul
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#4 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 13:34 · Edited by: Margo Tuul
kenwrites
I have done serious level bodybuilding for 3 years. Competed twice and this here, your advice, is complete nonsense.
Quality proteins from chicken breast fillets, turkey, tuna. Together with mixed greens. This is good on off-days, on day (when you exercise), go with fish as protein. Salmon, trout, tuna also. Any kind of oily fish. For fish use 1-2 roasted medium size potato.
All plan should be something like this:
Meal1 - oatmeal, eggs (boiled, 3-4, 1 with yolk, others without. 2 slices medium fat cheese.
Meal2- chicken breast fillets (2 medium size) and mixed greens. Keep portion size as medium.
Meal3- cottage cheese, mixed with cucumber and tomato (if you don't like this cheese, have 4 eggs (boiled, eat only whites) + 3 slices brown bread.
Meal4- Fish and 1-2 roast potato
Meal 3 should be 1h before workout or exercise. Even fast walking outside will do. Reason for this, is that carbs in brown bread will be used fast, so once you start with your exercise, all food is gone, and body will use body fat as energy (you don't feel hungry, as you had your meal 1h ago)
Meal 4 should be 1h after your workout/exercise. If you have off day leave potatoes and change it for greens.
Chicken should be steamed or boiled in WOK pan. Takes 5min to cook.
Morning drink should be either black coffee or green tea.
Other meals: 2 glasses of water.
Don't watch how much you weight, look at mirror. If you see changes...you are on track. If not, cut down last meal carbs (potatoes).
I have used this diet for fat burning and it works really good.
Be honest with yourself.
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Margo Tuul
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#5 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 13:37 · Edited by: Margo Tuul
Oh, you should be able to lose around 2-4 lbs per week. If you are honest, don't cheat, and exercise (even fast walking) 3x per week. Good if 4 times.
Edit: You need to eat every 3 hours. To keep your metabolism high. Skip meals and your fat burning process slows down (your metabolism slows down and your body will store fat)
Hope this helps
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kenwrites
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#6 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 15:31
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margo24: I have done serious level bodybuilding for 3 years. Competed twice and this here, your advice, is complete nonsense.
While I appreciate you input regarding your bodybuilding and all, my advice is not complete nonsense although you are entitled to your opinion. I have been vegetarian for the last 5 years, the past year and half being 70% raw foods. And I can say that I have reversed high blood pressure and other ailments in the process. The thing is..the real secret about diets....there is no one diet for everybody.
For example the one you outline above, 25% of the population will not do because of personal beliefs. Fact is that a high meat diet is unnecessary and more damaging to overall health. Black coffee in the morning as a diet regiment? Really? Black coffee contributes to the risk factors of those with High blood pressure and diabetes. Precisely some of the factors in ones determination to improve health to begin with.
I think it is great that you have a regiment and also think it is great that you offer another "viewpoint" but to blatantly say that others points of view are in fact "nonsense" is well.....nonsense.
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Margo Tuul
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#7 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 18:34 · Edited by: Margo Tuul
Black coffee is for antioxidants. Blood pressure comes in, if you drink it with high sugar.
Ye but read what you said...70% raw food. Get protein from nuts. Hello man, since when you get high quality proteins from nuts and seeds? Nuts and seeds are for fats and fats only. Nice handful of nuts is around 600-1000 calories. Since when 1000 calories are good for weight loss. Genius 
I visit my doctor twice a month, to check my blood pressure and blood. Kidneys etc. All top level and healthy.
High meat diet?WTF dude? Meat once a day and fish in the evening for Omega3 and 6 fats (good for brain work). You don't get them in nuts. Simple. And don't tell me that you can. Omega 3 and 6's are different EFA fats etc. Only in fish.
Other protein sources are from milk (cottage cheese), and eggs. Eggs are not meat protein.
Also protein in meat is more valuable and high quality than nuts or seeds. He asked for meal plan, i gave one. If you don't like it. stfu. If you want, write your own. Simple. If you can't. again...stfu
Im done with this discussion here... can't argue with vegetarian...no point. You don't eat meat, i do.
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kenwrites
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#8 · Posted: 4 Aug 2010 20:02
Wow. That was professional...
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ReneeIngram
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#9 · Posted: 11 Apr 2012 01:10
You should take protein supplement to build up muscles.
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