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moles
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#21 · Posted: 16 Mar 2008 05:19
Quoting: pingbotan it's pretty fun playing casino anyway. just need to know when to win and when to stop. after playing for a few wks, i understand where u're coming from, but with the correct discipline n a good system (not to ensure win but to ensure max wins and min losses), it's pretty easy (ok maybe not that easy after all) to walk away from the casino with more that u went in with. And yepz, cash1234 is a lousy system, but it opened me to a whole new world because i was totally ignorant of online casinos in the past. The welcome bonus thingy would have proved profitable few yrs back, but now it's too time consuming. Now I would rather concentrate on playing roulette or baccarat to get some profits.
Anyone who plays online roulette or any online casino game is an idiot,for ages people now people have been warned that you can never win in the long term playing these stupid games,if you think you can fine,play online roulette every day for an hour for a whole month then come back here and tell everyone how much you have lost,;.
It just cant be beat,why do poeple dilude themselves that they can,just chuck your money down the drain if your so keen on giving it away,
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#22 · Posted: 16 Mar 2008 12:04
This is simply waste your time and money.
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GetGoin
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#23 · Posted: 20 Mar 2008 04:22
I agree to that .. its waste of money and time .. you will be given a list of casinos which believe me you can get for free on google .. and other stuff which he offers is also rubbish !!!
the name is right i feel cash1234 where your cash goes out of your pockets in steps 1234..
anyways its not advisable !!
cheers rameez.
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FedIntRev
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#24 · Posted: 9 Apr 2008 23:01
I think I would be a little disapointed if I purchased this product. The home page doesn't give you any information that would give you the idea that this product is on gambling.
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ownyourlife
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#25 · Posted: 16 Apr 2008 21:48
Bucky: If you want to raise a good income for your family you should do it in a legitimate industry. That will be a key to success. There is a huge boom in the wellness industry that could help you raise legitimate money for your family. There are numerous opportunites for you there.
You nailed it Bucky! The wellness industry is very lucrative and has true staying power.
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vicky lynch
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#26 · Posted: 18 Apr 2008 11:20
so has anyone actually found a reasonable way to earn from home that doesnt
scam through survey sites
scam through data entry sites
guaranteed incomes that we would need to study at uni for 6 years to achieve
demand payment for great info on jobs that dont exist
in other words is there a way of earning money from your pc at home that you spent a small fortune to buy
im a new member sick of geting scammed when all i want to do is suppliment our household income to support our 3 young kids pay the mortgage and have enough money left at the end of the week to buy a packet of foxes classic biscuits,cause right now thats how desperate our house has become and i cant find a legitamate way to earn some cash to survive all i seem to end up doing is crossing someone elses palm with my last few quid.
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heistheanswer
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#27 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 01:21
Vicky, I know how you feel, there are to many online scams out there right now. But there are tons of online opportunities that work too. I've been in an online program since Oct of last year and am making around 2K a month average. I have 2 businesses that you might be interested in. You just have to make sure to do your due dilligence before you join anything. If the opportunity looks good but there is no way to contact the company, stay away. The GOOD news is that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, you just have to keep pushing forward. Donald Trump failed several times before he succeeded. I'm here to help anyway i can. Take care and GOD Bless 
Jason 636-978-7089
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040107
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#28 · Posted: 19 May 2008 15:21
This program is also known as http://www.netcashdotcom.com 
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#29 · Posted: 8 Aug 2008 14:04
I came across that cash1234 system and was checking up on it out of curiosity - not surprised at all to find it is a confirmed scam. The sales letter doesn't say what it is, either. Just seems to say what it isn't.
In any case I agree with the "learn then earn" strategy.
I also have my own values and guidelines, which include the principals of exchange. I would never try to earn money through gambling or anything where I am not producing a valuable product as an exchange. Even a good information website, which earns revenue through Adsense etc., is at least giving valuable (we hope) information to people.
But money for nothing? Nah. Even if it were possible (and it never really works out in the end) who wants it? Yuk.
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#30 · Posted: 8 Aug 2008 21:25
[quote=ajs1]Hi people. I have just bought the information and i can confirm that it is terrible. Possibly the worst ebook i have ever seen on the internet. It starts by telling you to play on casinos to win money by playing 50/50 bets.
Lol casino uhh
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2x2Prosperity
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#31 · Posted: 30 Apr 2009 04:04
From personal experience, I found roulette is not to be the way to go. hehe. Sure you might make some money in the short term as I have, but in the long term, you're doomed to fail whether you play with 50/50 bets or doubling up the bets such as with the Martingales system. Its really not worth the pressure or uncertainties involved.
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HomeIncome30
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#32 · Posted: 8 Jun 2009 17:42
The new twist to this cash1234 is he is now using a deceptive Adwords campaign. I Googled my own program and my domain name (also my copyrighted business name).
Along with my own paid ad, his appears with my domain name in the title of his ad, in the sponsored links ads. It also appears if I just Google the name of my program.
The courts ruled that I can't stop him from using my domain name or business name in his keywords, but he can't display them in the text of the ads.
I've filed my copyright infringement complaint with Google and sent him a personal note asking him to remove them. If he, or Google refuses to correct it, I'll be seeing him in court.
If any of you use PPC advertising to sell something I suggest you Google yourselves and see if he appears in the sponsored links using your name or domain in the text of the ad. He's doing it with many other programs.
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#33 · Posted: 8 Jun 2009 17:57
I have to agree with Seth.
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scamsaplenty
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#34 · Posted: 18 Jun 2009 04:53
I was stupid enough to waste USD $12 (AUD $15) myself in this ridiculous so called "system". I should have known better, I've seen so much BS on this "Internet Marketing" crap that I'm totally sick of it. I'm certain one day there will be some sort of legislation against it, as there should be, as there needs to be.
The worst thing about these sales pages is that they reveal nothing and they know how to play on your emotions and hit the right hot buttons. We see and hear what we want to, that's how we get fooled by them. You see enough of them though and you begin to think, here's another one that claims it's not going to cost you anything, or that its the best thing since sliced bread or whatever. Well I can tell you that 99.9% of it is all bollocks.
I can't tell you how much money I've wasted discovering that for myself. I can say that if someone has gone to the trouble of spending money on it and are revealing to you the ins and outs about it, listen to what they are saying before you potentially waste your money.
A lot of sites use testimonials too, but most of them are rubbish anyway. How difficult is it to make up a couple of initials and put a town or city name to them, you get pictures of people from anywhere. And you can almost bet your balls that the ones who have sites of their own leaving testimonials are Joint Venture partners, of course they're going to say good things about them.
The same goes for the emails you recieve, "I made 20 squillion dollars in 5 seconds with one click of the mouse!" Most people sending these have just spent God knows how much for whatever program, money on some safelist site and a monthly fee for an autoresponder and I reckon I'd be safe in saying that these people are most likely just as broke as most of us and haven't made a red cent.
I'm sure there are some things that do work, the issue is that you have to wade thru so much BS and potentially lose money before you do find anything worthwhile.
But anyway I digress. , I sent the turkey/s at Cash1234 an email, (which they'll probably never recieve coz I doubt they even bother with reading or responding to emails) and it reads...
"Hello, I just bought your "system" and am quite stunned actually, you promote onlne gambling as a way to make money? Come on now, don't you think that's a bit irresponsible?
And of course the links on your site are affiliate links, so naturally you wish to promote them :P
I'm certain the only person making money out of this is you selling to unwary hopeful suckers, just like me. I should've trusted my instincts, they were setting off alarm bells, but I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.
It's clowns like you that give merit to the saying, "There's a sucker born every minute, and there's someone born every 59 seconds to take advantage of them".
Well anyway, I hope you enjoy your $12, I'm sure you'll get more value out of it than I did. I would have had more fun if I wiped my arse with it, I may as well have. Your so-called "system" is about as clever and ingenious and as helpful as jamming a red hot poker up ones arse. Following your brainless, scam, bullsh*t of a program would certainly leave people with just as much grief.
Thank you for your wonderful system in a time of economic crisis, I'm sure you'll be so proud to know how much you have contributed to people's misery.
Remember, what goes around comes around, an indepsutable law."
Just be aware of one thing, whatever it is you do, if you want it to work it will require an investment, whether that be time or money or both, usually both.
Cheers
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#35 · Posted: 22 Jun 2009 10:51
Hi scamsaplenty,
I was able to get a quick refund on this. I was irritated enough with such a scam, I wasn't going to let them enjoy my $12!
Alex
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#36 · Posted: 22 Jun 2009 11:55
This is a great thread, guys. Sorry to hear about all the bad experiences but thanks for spreading the word.
I had heard about this cash1234 scheme being dodgy after seeing it on a PPC advert and doing a little digging.
One thing that stands out to me is that it costs $9-12. Not exactly like the $47+ products or even the $97 products.
This changes the consumer mindset a little - we don't feel like we've been burnt so badly if we're only risking about $10.
I've never bought Rich Jerk (as he's too insulting for me!) but his product is now only $10... and I've heard things that suggest Underground Cash Secret is a scam - if you walk away from his website twice, he offers you his product for $7. Even if I didn't know there was a dodgy background to his product, would anyone seriously offer anything of value for just $7?
The thing about these low prices is that it makes more people likely to buy the product as it doesn't cost them the shirt on their back.
From the seller's point of view, as long as 5 people buy their $10 product for every 1 person that buys a $47 product, they're making a profit. And I'm pretty sure there'd be more than a 5:1 ratio willing to pay $10 than $47.
And from the buyer's point of view, most will just write off $10 as a lesson learnt - "could have been worse - it could have been $47..."
Unfortunately this is why it works for the scammers...
If it's not too late, don't buy any 'make money online' product around the $10 mark unless it genuinely feels like it is worth it or you know 100% what you're getting. You'd be better donating $10 to charity...
Good luck guys,
IP
PS I echo the roulette stuff - you're not going to win long-term even though you'll begin to think you will. I won on my first two days but then it suddenly turned sour - how do you explain losing over 10 consecutive bets on Red or Black?!
Casinos aren't rich for no reason!
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#37 · Posted: 23 Jun 2009 08:53 · Edited by: HomeIncome30
Just to update about Cash1234 using my trademark, he (or Google?) removed the offending ads.
For those who find themselves getting burned, I can only say as a developer and a former victim, that there exists NO PROGRAM that makes anyone quick wealth. It took me months to be able to move out of a rodent infested trailer after a divorce and bankruptcy, but I did it through perseverance and long hours on the computer. Nothing I bought made it "quick".
For anyone who is just starting out (or thinking about it) on the Internet, know that it is a long process to make money. I make this clear in my own programs, one of which is simply a program to teach people how to build a website and get into the best affiliate programs (eBay and others).
I've also made a number of Youtube videos trying to explain to people that if any program promises "Instant Wealth" then it is likely a complete scam, or an unachievable system. Just search for "HomeIncome30" on Youtube. You'll find one Youtube video in which I burn another program called "Renegade Riches." Just put in a request for up to $17,500 using his program and it is deposited into your Paypal account. Are people really that stupid to buy it? Probably.
I've been at this for 10 years and spent a lot of money in the beginning on some real garbage. In all my purchases I'd say only 3 had real value out of about the 30 I bought.
Luckily, I learned real quick to purchase programs through Clickbank. Though they are the ones that most scammers use to put up their offers on the net, they do require that a 60 day refund policy must be adhered to.
So, if you are going to try a new program, make sure it is a Clickbank page you arrive to when paying for it. If it is a Google payment, your attempts at a refund will be for naught. I don't believe Google Checkout honors requests for refunds on digital products like downloads.
As to the price, many sellers make it cheap because they aren't making money on the program itself. They make the money through the scores of links they insert into their product. "To get the #1 position in Google Searches you need to purchase this tool (LINK)." "To get better results I used this tool (LINK)." "If you want to get a free tool, join my mailing list." - which will now have you being spammed with every other program they are affiliated with.
Those guys use the basic human emotion of greed to their own advantage. Most people try to look for the easiest way and don't want to work. I'm the first to admit I'd have liked to have been born to a Greek Tycoon, but fate gave me to a lower middle class working family. It took me some time to figure out I actually had to build a business and money doesn't come easy.
Don't believe testimonials. I could have made up my own (I didn't). Don't believe pictures of people standing in front of homes or sports cars. I could stand in front of mine, but again, it could be faked by anyone, so I didn't even bother. Don't believe screenshots of earnings results. It's called Image Editing Software. I could create a screenshot showing I make $10,000 every day if I wanted and it would look authentic.
Also, look for the typical disclaimer, "Examples of income given here are not typical and may not reflect your own results..." If an offer gives examples of income a disclaimer is supposed to be made, but many will not provide it, or if they do it will be buried somewhere in fine print, through a link.
Read the offers carefully. If you skip over all the useless BS of testimonials, what they make, what others have made, your "new life as a millionaire", etc., how much is left and what information have they really given you about the program they offer?
Do your research and see what people are saying about it. If the vast majority thinks it stinks, hold your nose and look for something else.
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#38 · Posted: 25 Jun 2009 13:48
Hi AJS1. Thank you for your feedback. I was actually googling around for information about fellow with a system named Jordan Hall. When I googled his name the ppc links at the top were advertising this Cash1234 System.
I was a bit concerned because the price was so low so I'm glad I found your comments and I saved that little bit.
I'm looking for something for my sister to do on the net. She won't join me in my businesses.... lol. She's not a networker.
If anyone knows of something easy for my sis, please let me know.
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#39 · Posted: 8 Aug 2009 08:02
Hi guys. Can I say that I have tried a system basically the same as this where you bet on red and then black $1 bet and keep doubling it if you loose the bet. they say that eventually you will win because the red or black will have to fall on the opposite colour eventually. Let me say that you loose money doing this! For starters the sales pitch usually includes casinos that you should use because "they have been tried and tested to work" what a load of crap! I can guarantee you that cash1234 would be getting an affiliate commission on every person that signs up to the casinos that is why they recommend them. also they recommend that you start out with about $100 - $200 to play with. the system works like this bet $1 on red, it falls on black so you then bet $2 if it still falls on black you keep doubling your money like this $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128 etc. Of course they tell you that it will never hit over 7-8 reds/blacks in a row so you can always make a dollar on each spin. I did this for a few days and turned $100 in $1300 but mind you it was almost like the online casino realised what was happening and the spin cycles started getting larger. so large that in fact i lost it all!!! you can bet i was pretty annoyed but i def won't be making the same mistake again. let me show you how easy it is to loose. say the ball starts to fall on red/black more than 8 times in a row. this is how your bets would look. $1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128, $356, $712. see how easy it is to loose $1300 like that! 10 reds/blacks in a row and you loose everything. Avoid any online gambling courses that promise to make money because its not you who will be making the money its the person selling you the information and the casinos of course.
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lindamia
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#40 · Posted: 13 Sep 2009 16:56
Hi malibumento,
Please get back to me about your home business...thanks....
lindamia
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