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Aprilviolet
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#101 · Posted: 5 Nov 2009 00:35


As it costs me nothing to be in it; I think it's quite cheap.

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#102 · Posted: 28 Nov 2009 14:42 · Edited by: samueldarwin


Aprilviolet:
As it costs me nothing to be in it; I think it's quite cheap.

Yes, it is. It is quite cheap.

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Willmarathon
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#103 · Posted: 28 Nov 2009 18:08


I just posted an expose encapsulating what is in this thread and my bad experiences for other innocent internet marketers at Imreportcard dot com . Just trying to save other people.

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survey4000
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#104 · Posted: 30 Nov 2009 10:04


Please refund my money.

10602 SFS Monthly Membership 9/8/2009
4730 10K Package -> $ 99.99 7/30/2009
11203 10K Package -> $ 99.99 8/30/2009
12297 SFS Monthly Membership 9/15/200

19/10/2009 INT'L 0041226560 SALES-HELPONLINE.C $39.96.

sorry but there is no refund, unless you were charged after canceling your membership and lead package subscription.

Since what you show below indicates both lead packages were processed, no refunds can be given.

never got any leads delivered.

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#105 · Posted: 30 Nov 2009 19:03


Has anyone tries google sniper. I was wondering it sounds like google SEO just repackaged

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#106 · Posted: 2 Dec 2009 12:06


Lets be honest, anything that promises to automatically build your income, or do all the work for you isn't worth your time.

It just simply doesn't work this way, online or offline. Any business takes work, a little skill, and persistence.

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#107 · Posted: 3 Dec 2009 10:46


Hey friends, all are saying that Streamline Funnel System has become a scam now ..... but I will say , it is a scam from the day of launch. I joined it with lots of hope but they did not stood by their quite famous promises.
When I asked them they said - "Nothing is automated till you make it automated. Your first PRIORITY in life at this point, is really to make sure you align yourself with true mentors, with people who REALLY know how to teach others marketing, leadership, and true success principles."
I don't know what does it mean.
What entrepreneurship they need?

It's real scam

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FREEBUSINESSES
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#108 · Posted: 6 Dec 2009 18:25


Appears to be completely different program now, better in all aspects, so who knows, like with all these deals, times will expose them as good or bad, it won't take long.

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FreeCashMan
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#109 · Posted: 6 Dec 2009 19:01


There's nothing better

They had to change the scandalous operation from before because Paul had associated the good name of Shaklee with SFS that was proving no customer support, not honor cancel requests, and not sending out leads, and more as has been noted in this forum.

There nothing to give this any vote of confidence.

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Willmarathon
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#110 · Posted: 19 Dec 2009 20:56


I have attempted to write two very
detailed,well-documented reviews of sites,one being the Streamline Funnel System, and they were not published and there was no explanation given. The reviews were not extremely derogatory, except in the case of the Streamline Funnel System,that is a well-documented scam and for which the
Shaklee Legal Department and Canadian law enforcement are
involved in prosecuting. So my conclusion about IMReportCard
is that they are neither fair,nor objective nor willing to
have the truth be told concerning really bad scams.
Complaints and Scam,on the other hand, are fabulous sites with longstanding reputations.
After complaining to the admin that neither report had been published, the admin wrote me back and said he was only a reader
like me. NOT TRUE: first lie.
Then he told me he had been making money with the Streamline Funnel System from the very start!!! Scary. The only people who made money from the very start were the founders
and supposedly Karl Airey got kicked out so who does that leave:
Paul Birdsall, Joel Broughton and Frank Pearson or some last name similar to that. So do one of these guys OWN or MANAGE IMReportCard as a large deflecting tool? They are probably crooked enough to do that.. Maybe someone could help investigate.
Then this admin who says he's only a reader tells me he heard
that Karl Airey highjacked the forum, took everyone elses downline and owns the new site Automatic Online Profits. So has anyone heard anything? or have any evidence. I know I called the Shaklee
Legal Department and they said they were looking into Paul Birdsall
and Joel Broughton. Can't remember if they mentioned Karl Airey.
I also went to sfsrevealed.ning and it was closed as far as I could tell.

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#111 · Posted: 19 Dec 2009 21:15


I doubt that there is any connection to SFS, Birdsall and others to IM Report card. It's possible SFS, etc., have strategically posted a positive comments on IM Report Card.

Fact is automated cash on buy email leads is a lie as SFS and its new name and owners make it out to be.

A well rounded marketing strategy will pay off with consistency. This is a proven fact that is making people money online from a little to a lot.

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#112 · Posted: 30 Jan 2010 21:04


bdove23:
hey i was just doing some reviews about Streamline Funnel System, what are some good ways to get traffic and leads.

As we know, social media is exploding, and with email marketing dying, I suspect that is what killed SFS for I never saw any results. Given Google purchased YouTube, do you think they see the end of PPC more clearly than we do. I know my revenues on the Adsense side have died, and just as I stopped wasting money on Adwords, I suspect millions of others have as well.

Time will tell, but the internet is a fast moving target, and getting traffic to our sites is a constant battle, a losing one for most. Check out YouTube-Zoom opportunity which puts a professional video promoting your business on YouTube, seems to be the next trend in building traffic, and with millions of unprofessional videos on YouTube, and all the traffic they get, makes sense.

Success to all,

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#113 · Posted: 30 Jan 2010 22:07


FREEBUSINESSES:
As we know, social media is exploding, and with email marketing dying,

I make money with email marketing everyday. Sure, it's not as easy as it was but it's hardly dead.


FREEBUSINESSES:
I suspect that is what killed SFS for I never saw any results. Given Google purchased YouTube, do you think they see the end of PPC more clearly than we do.

Huh? First, I don't see the connection between Google's purchase of YouTube a couple of years ago and your assertion that PPC (Pay-Per-Click) advertising is ending. Second, PPC is one of the most vibrant, lucrative, and effective advertising methods on the planet. I see no signs that it is in decline at all.

FREEBUSINESSES:
I know my revenues on the Adsense side have died, and just as I stopped wasting money on Adwords, I suspect millions of others have as well.

In the 4th Quarter of 2009, Google's revenue increased 17% and it's revenue-per-click increased 2%. Reference: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE60K6AO20100122

It doesn't appear that most advertisers believe Adwords is a waste of money.

Mark

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#114 · Posted: 8 Feb 2010 11:23 · Edited by: FREEBUSINESSES


What we are seeing is the cost per bid going up due to the extreme competition for PPC, as I am sure you must know if you are using PPC, gone are the days of cost effective PPC, heck, when I started in 2001 using Adwords, most of my bids were in the under .09 range per click, now look at what one has to pay, .50 to over a buck for same key words when I glanced at some of my records, so yes, revenues are up a bit over previous year, but actual click activity is not.

We do not know where all Google revenues are coming from, but as a former stock holder, sold off after seeing the PPC trend starting to peak, and thankfully I sold at just over $700., then it dropped. The bottom line is obvious to me, I see PPC cost rising, but volume declining, and if not for the millions of affiliates pushing up bids, you would see an entirely different picture. Again, Google sees this clearly, have a friend inside, so time will tell, but tell me, how long have you been using PPC, and if it is more than a few years, tell us what your average cost is per click is now verses when you started?

Now answer this, as one who appears to be an experienced online marketer, are you seeing the same results you did a couple years ago? I mean sales of whatever you are marketing? If the recession isn't impacting your results due to the increased cost of PPC, then you are not the average affiliate promoter which make up the majority of online marketers as I see it. Do you click on PPC ads as a professional online marketer, or do you click on organic natural search results? Now how long do you think it will be before most go with organic natural search results? This is why Google is scrambling adding browser and now cell phones which I would predict is the next trend in online advertising along with social media. They are going to be to texting ads to cellphones, so time will tell, but the market is shifting away from what we have all capitalized on for years, email and PPC industry, so what are your PPC average bid prices now on same keywords you used when you started. This is why you have to read between the lines.

As to email marketing, it is ten times more difficult than it was with an ever growing list of words being blocked by servers. A couple years ago the list was about 20, now it is over 100 and growing, why else do you see so many using (.) between f.ree or o.pportunity as example in email blasts. You don't think these same server owners are going to plug this hole too in time, in fact, some already have. I was analyzing this a few months ago testing it through several servers, and I saw this starting then, so you have to wonder just how many emails are now being blocked. We know it has become a throw away server issue for many email blast companies, so I see it on decline even if you don't yet. So tell us, are your email revenues the same as the were last year? If so, you are indeed fortunate for most I converse with are off significantly while costs are rising as we see with cost of PPC because of all the guru's pumping the newbies on get rich quick with affiliate marketing. Sad, but true, and as I have analyzed, it is all about to change this year.

Success to all,

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#115 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 22:04


Kurt Henninger:
Lets be honest, anything that promises to automatically build your income, or do all the work for you isn't worth your time.

It just simply doesn't work this way, online or offline. Any business takes work, a little skill, and persistence.

Exactly.
I don't believe such thing as buy leads and increase your emailing lists. That's why I didn't involve SFS after I learned they have to buy leads packages to build your lists PLUS a promising leads for those who purchased ,the more the better according to them.

SFS worked well on newbie because of their ignorant and trust the owner with his/her past proven making money records.

I advice, when we choose to join a program, we have to think out of the box. We have to make a good decision before direct all of our valuable time into it. Ask yourself this, does a particular program really worth you to join without you really can see the end of the road?

A good business is a business must you put effort PLUS never give up. Regardless your effort is in 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, 5 years and so forth, you will still reach your final destination of making money to improve your life. That is to say, a business that lasts. Put it in a most simple way to say. Let say I build a business that needs 500 people for me to earn US$2500 per month. By never give up, I build 1 by 1, 1 by one week, 1 by 2 weeks, 1 by 1 month etc. It is me that decide how fast or how slow, I still will reach the 500 customer as my final destination.

This is the real business I want. This is the real business I have. Why so? This is because this business has a customer retention rate of up to 95%. The 95% retention rate was made up from old customers. This build a business that lasts.

Hence, the main reason for a business that involve selling without a reasonable repeat sales would put you back to the original base, zero re-start. You have to fight all over again. That's why so many people failed to earn good money online. That's why so many updated version newer program from the same owner pop-up again and again. Everybody starts from zero.

Can you really see the point?
I wish you would meet a Unique Business Opportunity soon.

Have a fantastic day

Henry

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#116 · Posted: 14 Apr 2010 12:38


sean159
Hi, I signed up during the pre launch and then they had problems handling all the payments and had to get a different processor. I did get my refund. It all started to be a bit too shaky for me.

EVon

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