Discussion in 'Business Opportunities and Programs Reviews' started by inter, Jul 20, 2006.
Anybody heard of it. Is it a legitimate online opportunity?.
I looked at the website, and I don't really know what to say. I'd check out the ripoffreport.com just to be safe.
Here's what I found when searching for Better Universe:
Quoting: Vishal P. RaoHere's what I found when searching for Better Universe:
In all fairness....I don't care what product is being reviewed...If you ask anyone on scam.com, they're going to yell "SCAM" about anything. They're a bunch of crybabies over there.
I am a member of betteruniverse. it akes alot of time and effort to produce any substancial income and alot of advertising. There are only a few free advertising avenues that actually produce any good results. Do your research before jumping into any business. From my experiences a business that has a consumable product is the very best.
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I read enough about it to decide that it was probably not a very good opportunity. While Scam boards should be read with a sense of humor (there is a lot of flaming), Better Universe is basically a program where you get people to change there time-honored purchasing habits so you can make money. My perception (admittedly limited) is that prices are higher and they have a sort of "its for the good of the world" claim that doesn't measure up. Most of the money goes into the owners pockets and some to the distrubuters.
There are other ways to make a better universe, at least for me.
Just in case some members missed this email I have posted it for your information
To The Members of BetterUniverse.com,
I am sorry to say that I have not been very involved with BetterUniverse.com for some time, only keeping our servers running for our members and being a member of the board of directors of our parent corporation.
Our previous president wanted to control everything else in its entirety, including commissions, cash flow, our programmers, and paying our vendors. He said he needed to do this to keep everything in control. This was how things were operating until late in January 2007 when I emailed our previous president to express my continuing frustration with the way he was running the corporation and several days' later he sent me a certified letter announcing to me that he "resigned" without any warning or notice of any kind. Our previous president, who always told us "Winners never quit and Quitters never win", had quit each and every one of us without any notice or warning of any kind. But after researching what has happened over the past months, he really left us many months ago.
Our previous president then sent me another certified letter the day after he quit stating that he needed me to pay all our commissions on time and pay our vendors on time or let him know as he is still a shareholder of our parent company MovieClubPlus.com, Inc. Then I find out, the day he quit, he did some very large withdrawals from our corporate bank accounts. Basically removing most of the cash from the corporation, he also had our merchant account company inform me on February 1st that our merchant account was closed. After calling to talk to them, they had been trying to work with our previous president for the last several months, but they saw no improvement in our chargeback ratio's (which were always under 1% when I used to managed them), but had slid up to 7% in January while our previous president looked on, so our corporation's merchant account company was forced to close our four year old merchant account. February 1st was the first day that I heard that there was a problem with the corporate merchant account.
I have worked diligently over the past two weeks to get a new merchant account, but with the high chargeback's ratios, and very little cash in the bank, no merchant company will approve us. A merchant account is the lifeblood of a company such as BetterUniverse.com. Without a merchant account, very little cash comes into the corporation.
Then I started hearing from our vendors, who stated that they have not been paid in the last five months and were demanding payment. Again, this was our previous president's responsibility up until the day he "resigned" without any warning or notice of any kind. After our previous president's resignation I find that the corporation is in debt many ten's of thousand of dollars, many of these debts, our previous president told me were paid, many others, our previous president never even informed me that the debts existed.
At the same time many members have called our new phone number, complaining that their support tickets have not been handled, or they have not been paid commissions. After researching this I find that our previous president's wife, who was paid a salary to handle support for our corporation, hasn't handled any support tickets in many months. And the fact that December commission checks that our previous president committed to me were paid, were not.
I also find out that our previous president, and our corporate programming staff spent much of their time since September working on a separate site under a different company name, and tied it to BetterUniverse.com back office, all without any benefit to the corporation or our members, all while being paid a salary by BetterUniverse.com. Our previous president also used many of our corporate assets to create his new company without permission or compensation to the corporation. All this while ignoring your support requests, phone calls, commissions, our vendors, and our merchant account.
I have written our previous president a series of letters to try to save the company, and I even gave our previous president one last chance to return the money by 5pm today, I told him without it BetterUniverse.com would be forced to close, from this letter, I received a response from an Lawyer, that our previous president hired with corporate funds, that he does not owe the corporation any funds. So it is due to these actions by our previous president, and with a very heavy heart that I must announce the closure of BetterUniverse.com.
I am sorry for telling you this via email, but I thought it was the right thing to let you know what had happened. No one was charged for their benefits in February. Even if you received a credit card receipt, the merchant company assures me that you were not charged. I thank you in advance for your understanding in this matter.
Robert T Bowen
Board of Directors
Quoting: hilmarkI am a member of betteruniverse. it akes alot of time and effort to produce any substancial income and alot of advertising.
It's like that for pretty much any type of online business that you're involved in. It does take effort and time to see any type of real results that you're shooting for.
But that should never discourage anyone if getting started in a legitimate business. When you go into it, just know that you'll be spending several months (or longer) before you start to see the fruits of your labor.
I checked out the site and although Better Universe.com doesn't seem like something for me, I'm sure it could fit someone else very well.
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