Wow. Must be going on 3 years at least, I joined Profit Lance and I just had mental blocks that it was beyond my ability to learn real internet marketing stuff, so after a few visits I left and have almost never thought of it since. I just did a search to make sure that Clickbank didn't change their rules regarding being able to buy from yourself, because someone who knows a lot more than me told me I could get my account locked if I tried that. That search led me to a thread here discussing that, and btw, according to the thread, it's evidently still OK. Anyway, now I see this forum is run by the Profit Lance dude!! Coolness. What's his name again? The student wasn't ready the first time, but the teacher is still around I see. This is exciting. I wonder if I can still get into my account. Gonna go check on it. Bosco PS - The reason I got past my mental blocks to where I now know I can learn these things is I had the good fortune of running across "Sir" Chris Farrell. He is a breakthrough facilitator extraordinaire. OK, I gotta go try to get back into my dusty account.