So Frustrated!!!!!

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by jaxxmont, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. jaxxmont

    jaxxmont New Member

    Does anything kno what works out there? I`ve bought a few work at home programs that were supposed to put a couple hundred dollars a day in my clickbank account the first day but nothing works. Something must work cuz people are making a living fromaffiliate marketing.
     
  2. Just2EZ

    Just2EZ Moderator

    jaxxmont: I`ve bought a few work at home programs that were supposed to put a couple hundred dollars a day in my clickbank account the first day but nothing works.
    Sounds like you should be marketing those products to people like you.
    People buy hype and promises everyday.
    Do you really want to sell it to them?
    That's where the money is, at least that's where yours went.

    Slow and steady wins the race.
     
  3. Shanec

    Shanec New Member

    There aren't too many ways in life to get rich quick. it takes awhile to build any business, an online business included. Learn the basics, like how to dirct traffic to your website and how to build a list, then the money will start coming in[​IMG]
     
  4. Just2EZ

    Just2EZ Moderator

    Just2EZ: People buy hype and promises everyday.
    No different than penny stocks, it's all in the fine print disclaimers.

    Just2EZ: Do you really want to sell it to them?
    That's where the money is,
    Sorry to sound like the smart as* I am but it's the truth.
    You can BUILD a huge legitimate income online or at home.
    Making $100s from day one generally involves misleading innocent buyers.
    And rarely does that kind of wealth last as long as it took to make it.
    Not to mention the damage to your reputation.
     
  5. TJamMoneyMan

    TJamMoneyMan Well-Known Member

    jaxxmont: programs that were supposed to put a couple hundred dollars a day in my clickbank account the first day but nothing works.
    Some of these plans actually work.
    Despite what people say, they are not ALL bad!

    THEY ARE ALL OVER-HYPED though!
    This gives people understandable justification to shout "SCAM!!!".

    If you want money quickly, there are ways to do that as well.
    No, not get rich quick.
    But there are compensation plans and ideas that can get you paid right away from your conversions.
    It will usually take some days to get these types of campaigns up and running however.
    But from each conversion, you'll get paid right away.

    With CLICKBANK however, you should at least be aware that there is a 60 day 100% money back guarantee period.
    You can not count on pocketing ANYTHING until that period of time has passed - for each and every sale you make!

    These vendors loudly proclaim, "My personal 60 day money back guarantee...", which is total BS of course.
    The guarantee comes from CLICKBANK!
     
  6. happywife

    happywife Gold Member

    TJamMoneyMan: jaxxmont:
    programs that were supposed to put a couple hundred dollars a day in my clickbank account the first day but nothing works.

    Some of these plans actually work.
    Despite what people say, they are not ALL bad!
    Name one. [​IMG]

    jaxxmont: Does anything kno what works out there?
    What works is building a solid affiliate marketing business, slow and steady, step by step.

    I have yet to hear of someone who genuinely started making a couple of hundred dollars per day in a day, a week, or even in a month.

    Everyone I know who makes that kind of money (or more) has put many months (at least) into building a solid foundation for their online business.

    If you had an instant money making machine, an online ATM, or any one of the many catch phrases you will read from those who want your money, would you really sell it for $29, or $79, or $499, etc.?

    You'd be very foolish to do so. Always allow common sense to prevail when reading sales pages. [​IMG]

    I make a "living" through affiliate marketing, but I certainly didn't do it in a day.

    Blessings,
    Angie
     
  7. TJamMoneyMan

    TJamMoneyMan Well-Known Member

    happywife: I have yet to hear of someone who genuinely started making a couple of hundred dollars per day in a day, a week, or even in a month.
    If you believe the hype, then yes, NONE of these will work.

    But if you take a factual look at what they can do for you that's a different story all together.

    NONE will make you the thousands of dollars they claim, by clicking a few buttons.
    Let's not be naive!

    We all know that just about every 'offline' business lies about their products.
    Drug manufacturers.
    Real estate 'professionals'.
    Stockbrokers.
    Coca Cola.
    McDonalds.
    Cigarette companies.
    Casinos.
    Your landlord!
    There's no end to it all.

    And they're ALL over priced!

    People buy into the lies.
    That's why advertisers lie!

    Why should it be any different online?


    happywife: Some of these plans actually work.
    Despite what people say, they are not ALL bad!

    Name one.
    Here are a few, for starters:

    I have had success building a list with AUTO CASH FUNNEL - they do a good job of teaching you how to build a list using giveaways.
    And they have a copy/paste video tutorial system that makes it easy.
    They provide the gifts.
    They pre-build and host the landing pages for you.

    I have found COPY PASTE TRAFFIC to be a good marketing system.

    It's hard to find anyone with anything bad to say about WORD PRESS ROBOT as well.

    The list goes on believe it or not.
    And I can direct anyone interested to where they can find factual reviews of many of 'these products'.

    That's what you should base your purchasing decision on, not SALES PAGES!!!
    (Did I mention that virtually ALL of these have 60 day money-back guarantees?)

    No I haven't made thousands today with them.
    Nor did I expect to.

    They also have annoying upsells/downsells and every other kind of 'sell'.
    And you can count on getting plenty of after-sale email promotions too!
    (You can also opt OUT of these lists as well, so...)

    But I found out their true value from factual and honest reviews of those who bought into them.

    I offer my experiences as well, where I can.
    As truthful, and factually complete as is possible for me.

    That's what forums are for.
    To break through the lies and deceit of advertising.

    EVERYTHING is not 100% scam!!
     
  8. WeFeelBetter

    WeFeelBetter New Member

    @jaxxmont I'm sorry you're having a hard time with it-my wife tried affiliate marketing for a while and got some checks here and there from Linkshare and Commission Junction, I believe, but never a whole lot. I don't know if there is a legit 'get rich' way to do it, but I know that if a program gives people something of value and you believe in it and work at it, eventually it will pay off. I guess that's the real secret-finding something that you believe in and don't mind putting the time in to work on-that's what has worked for me. Best of luck to you-I hope you find an opportunity that works for you soon!
     
  9. happywife

    happywife Gold Member

    TJamMoneyMan: Here are a few, for starters:

    I have had success building a list with AUTO CASH FUNNEL - they do a good job of teaching you how to build a list using giveaways.
    And they have a copy/paste video tutorial system that makes it easy.
    They provide the gifts.
    They pre-build and host the landing pages for you.

    I have found COPY PASTE TRAFFIC to be a good marketing system.

    It's hard to find anyone with anything bad to say about WORD PRESS ROBOT as well.

    The list goes on believe it or not.
    And I can direct anyone interested to where they can find factual reviews of many of 'these products'.

    That's what you should base your purchasing decision on, not SALES PAGES!!!
    (Did I mention that virtually ALL of these have 60 day money-back guarantees?)

    No I haven't made thousands today with them.
    Nor did I expect to.

    They also have annoying upsells/downsells and every other kind of 'sell'.
    And you can count on getting plenty of after-sale email promotions too!
    (You can also opt OUT of these lists as well, so...)

    But I found out their true value from factual and honest reviews of those who bought into them.

    I offer my experiences as well, where I can.
    As truthful, and factually complete as is possible for me.

    That's what forums are for.
    To break through the lies and deceit of advertising.

    EVERYTHING is not 100% scam!!

    That wasn't the question. The question was do any of these programs make you a couple hundred dollars per day starting from day one (as they claim). The answer is NO, not ONE.

    The question is not whether everything is 100% scam. Of course it isn't. There is generally a measure of marketing information in most programs that are being sold. (Although some things ARE 100% scam.) [​IMG]

    I'm glad you are finding some success with some of the programs you mentioned. I am not familiar with them, but I assume from your posts that they are not making you hundreds per day.

    Not all online business programs make false income claims. Some are actually quite honest and upfront about the amount of work and effort that goes into building an online business and the slow growth that is involved.

    People shouldn't have to wade through the hype to find out if something has a kernel of truth in it and what that kernel is, particularly when they don't have the knowledge or experience to determine the difference in the early stages.

    There is honor and integrity in being upfront about what a program "really" offers and the genuine returns one can expect.

    I think that's what jaxxmont needs to realize and ultimately what he was asking. Can he believe ANY sales pages and claims?

    Personally, I don't even want to align myself with companies that are deliberately deceiving potential customers to make a quick buck. I want a business of integrity that I can recommend with a clear conscience to others.

    Something that has a 60 day money back guarantee can still be a 60 day waste of time. [​IMG]

    Blessings,
    Angie
     
  10. TJamMoneyMan

    TJamMoneyMan Well-Known Member

    happywife: That wasn't the question. The question was do any of these programs make you a couple hundred dollars per day starting from day one (as they claim). The answer is NO, not ONE.
    I agree!
    As these are directed often at newbies, that just ain't gonna happen for them.

    They don't all quite make eggzackly the same claims about the $250 bux a day from day one either.

    TJamMoneyMan: Some of these plans actually work.
    Despite what people say, they are not ALL bad!
    happywife: Name one.

    I was saying they "work".
    Without being too 'Bill Clinton-ish', I think it depends on how you define 'work'.

    I don't define 'working' as living up to the sales page.

    I was also saying they are 'not all bad'...

    The 'question' you asked me was to "name one" of these.

    I gave you three.


    WORD PRESS ROBOT is actually not a clickbank product.

    MARKET SAMURAI is though, and I have heard a lot of good things about that one as well.

    So, that's three! [​IMG]

    happywife: Not all online business programs make false income claims. Some are actually quite honest and upfront about the amount of work and effort that goes into building an online business and the slow growth that is involved.

    I agree again!

    But these are Clickbank PRODUCTS, not businesses.

    It's YOUR business how you sell them however.
    And you can tell the truth as you wish as you refer them to your Clickbank link.
    There are people who represent these products honestly.

    happywife: People shouldn't have to wade through the hype to find out if something has a kernel of truth in it and what that kernel is, particularly when they don't have the knowledge or experience to determine the difference in the early stages.
    I agree again!
    (this is fun [​IMG])

    This is why I suggest seeking out those who offer factual and experience based reviews.
    And that you have some of your own to offer!

    And that you ignore the sales page hype entirely.
    No Wading Allowed! [​IMG]


    happywife: I think that's what jaxxmont needs to realize and ultimately what he was asking. Can he believe ANY sales pages and claims?
    Not with Clickbank products!

    happywife: Something that has a 60 day money back guarantee can still be a 60 day waste of time.
    And again, of course I agree with you!

    But this can also be a 60 day (or less) education and training period.

    They are not all junk imho, of course.
    But for a newbie some of these products can truly have some value in this regard whether you keep the product or return it.

    Everyone doesn't seem to think all these products are junk either.
    You can find good unbiased factual reviews of Clickbank products easily nowadays.

    Bad ones too!


    And of course, I don't think you are being naive! [​IMG]
     
  11. A8ch

    A8ch Gold Member

    jaxxmont: I`ve bought a few work at home programs that were supposed to put a couple hundred dollars a day in my clickbank account the first day but nothing works.
    Seems you may have fallen for some of the over-hyped marketing claims that snag lots of people every day. The claims may not necessarily be false, they are often very misleading. What makes them misleading is not what they say, but what they leave out entirely.

    Remember, marketing is about "selling the sizzle, not the steak." Beware of the shiny things!

    People who have little or no understanding of the Internet and its marketing peculiarities, who are usually predisposed to the idea that making money online is easy, or who find themselves needing to make some cash in a hurry, comprise the bulk of victims swept up in the convincing scenarios created by skillful copywriters.

    What these copywriters don't tell you is that in order to make hundreds of dollars the first day with their program, it helps if you have some kind of marketing infrastructure already in place.

    That could be anything from owning a responsive mailing list, having some influence and recognition in a particular market, having joint venture partners you can work with, to knowing where and how to advertise online, and so on.

    With those kinds of resources at your finger tips, it now becomes easier to leverage them and improve the possibility of generating several hundred dollars the first day using just about any system. Otherwise, it's almost impossible.

    Making money online is not magic. There's no bottle to rub or genie to grant you three wishes. You need to have a clear objective and a solid action plan for digging the foundation on which to build. That takes time and a certain work ethic.

    It's up to YOU to find a way to make it happen!

    Hermas
     
  12. Rach72

    Rach72 New Member

    As always Hermas has nailed it, but I would like to add that instead of looking for a complete 'system' that will magically put money into your pocket look for a place to learn the basics thoroughly. From there you can choose to specialize.

    Whether you use something like Chris Farrell, SBI or Affilorama, get in with a reputable crowd and stay there until you know what you are doing.

    To be honest at the start they all teach the same thing, so choose a teaching style that suits you and be prepared to stick at it for the long haul 'cause there ain't no quick fix at the start!
     
  13. yahia

    yahia Member

    jaxxmont: Does anything kno what works out there? I`ve bought a few work at home programs that were supposed to put a couple hundred dollars a day in my clickbank account the first day but nothing works. Something must work cuz people are making a living fromaffiliate marketing.
    Get your money back man, there is no such a thing on clickbank. In theory it's possible, but only if you have like a thousand bucks to buy content traffic from Google on websites that already advertise that same product you are selling, weed out the websites and kill the ads that don't convert. Remember, you'll lose like $800 on data, but you can make it up when your campaign is optimized as above.
     

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