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ayalatravel
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2007 03:25
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ALLSMILES, your sponsor does not take your 1st three recruits. Every person I have recruited is under me, no one took them.

When you sign up, or have people sign up, make sure they go to your website. This goes for any company.

I have seen many of these other companies that claim to have all these great plans. They end up being "matrix plans," and every other crazy thing that is out there, with many limitations.

YTB is a great company. In all my years of experience I have never seen a company with such a "total package."

If you join YTB and work "smart," you will eventually do well. You do not need 100,000 people in your downline to do well with this company.

Much success to you,
Doreen

ateamfuntimer
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2007 13:38
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Hello YTB Members,

My name is Adam Frederick. Ive been in home based businesses for the last 20 years. I started in Amway and have done just about everything out there. For the past 2 years ive been in the travel industry and have seen alot of good things about many travel companies. YTB is one of them. You can take a look at me and my wifes story by going to the link on HBC magazine http://hbc.idigitaledition.com/issue.php?issue=5 page 26-27 One of the things ive learned is in any business you need leads. I now get 40,000 leads for $299 a month and there is even a residual income involved as well. Im not sure how many of you generate leads or do your advertising but im open to share what im doing with anyone. In addition I have my own marketing company so if you are looking for websites or lead capture pages be sure to contact me. There is no hype in calling me. I share what I can do and if you are interested great if not hopefully we can learn something from each other and possibly network in the future. Hope to talk to you all soon. You can contact me via my signature line ( this is one of my websites and has my contact info on it) or via pm on this forum.

Adam Frederick
Business Entrepreneur + Motivational Speaker + Coach

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jojobiz
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2007 12:26
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ayala travel

obviously you don't know how your own compensation plan works...
you get very little from your first three teams... they are under you, but your no getting paid in full by them, that is for your upline.....and if you just happen to hit that million dollar earner... you stand to get very little from them as compared to the power teams..... if you get there.... agan only 3% have to the fortitude to go out and swindle people into this business. just so they get the 1000 dollar bonus....
travel is side line to the recruiting efforts.... even rick ricketts the #1 money earner for the company pushes store fronts.. for you make little from travel..... airlines pay squat... and you 'all get excited whe you have to wait months to get paid andthen you get paid only 60% of teh commision.... so thats 60 bucks on each hundred... airline commison is low.... about 3 bucks you will earn.... and you go ga-ga over that? heck come over and was my toilets... i'll be gld to pay you $5 bucks after you pay me 500 dollars for the privledge to clean my toilet.... exactly what YTB didto you... you paid them 500 bucks,the 49 bucks a month for your store front to earn 5 bucks in commission.... unless you are the sales person taht can sell cruises...
an you better be good at it.... for the travel industry is fierce with competition.... with YTB you are in rediect marketing.... trying to get people to buy the same bar of soap from you tat they can get at wall mart...... the whole YTB gimmick is that your friends will buy from you, instead ofgoing to walmart.... the only problem with this... is that i know of noone who has as many friends as walmart has customers.... and if i am in walmart.... i'll buy soap there... i don't have te time to go hunting a friend down so they can make 5 cents on my purchase

read the fine print.... and look at the stock reports, and understand what it means to be on the pink sheets... the sewer section of teh stock market..... and now they just split the stocks... and now they As of July 31, 2007, YTB International had 38.9 million shares outstanding. The Company expects that once the approximately 77.8 million shares of Class B Common Stock which were issued to shareholders of record as of July 31, 2007, are credited to the accounts of beneficial holders, there will be approximately 116.7 million shares of common stock (Class A and Class B combined) owned beneficially by YTB International's shareholders.

another words the company is trying generate as much cash as possibl to keep floating......

again it is only the new associates who swallowed the B.S. hook line and sinker that are posting good things..... who cares if you booked a trip or two.... how much volume are you moving? or they just running a hobbie....

go talk to a tax adviser and learn how the tax incentives really work.... don't take it from someone who who sat in a room and is repeating the pitch.... whe tey themselves have no idea what they are talking about like ayala travel... who doesn't even know how thier own compensation plan works....

i woud get network marketing for dummies written by Zig Ziglar and understan what it isthat you are looking for in a company....
as has been said before.... only 30 companies out of thousands of these companies have with stood the test of time....

there is even a company that was selling clocks made out of horse manure... thier associates said teh same thing....

global prosperity group said the same... until most of them went to jail.... goodluck

delawarehispani
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2007 15:02
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Okay people....let's be real.

First - the company is a public traded company. Which means that they must
live by a different set of standards (especially since the reckoning day of
ENRON).

Second - Advertising can be misleading....yes, it can. However, they are
not to publish inaccuracy facts. That would be false advertising. Even if
only 1 time or 1 person may achieve and/or received - it can be published as
being fact. I can name numerous companies that I've been personally
involved with from a consulting aspect that fit this example....Large
fortune 500 companies. Also, I can name numbers of company the people in
this email patronize that do that same thing. How many of us but Clorox,
Johnson and Johnson Products, Coke, Pepsi......let's be real.

Third - I've worked in the "trading" field for many years...money,
brokering, travel...You can never "GUARENTEE" that the price will not
change. This individual who claims they could have received the flight for
less - may in fact be right. Maybe just after booking with YTB...a
wholesaler sold a book of air travel to other discounters for less - it
happens. I now work in money - it changes by the hour each day throughout
the day.
Finally, I've had this very same thing happen to me - oh well, it just
happens.

So the message I'm making clear hear is....1) Understand the person that the
negative message came from...most of the time you can see why negativity
came from them....; 2) Know the company and leadership that you have with
your business opportunity and know the market well - this will help you with
any decisions; 3) Unless a mass of individuals are complaining - don't
worry....the small 1 or 2's that do complain may not have the knowledge or
understanding of themselves let alone the business they've embarked on.

Best regards...from a trusted source

csakal
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2007 13:37
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I am interested in knowing what the company is that you're talking about. Please email me information. I am looking at YTB and would like your input.

Cindy S.

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 22 Aug 2007 14:44
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delawarehispani
trading field???? then you should know about the slum of the stocks... its called the pink sheets... there is no regulation....
go look it up..... only an idiot would invest in this area....
or someone who is crazy enough to gamble in vegas .... the odds are with the house.... i would suggest before posting idiotic info do your homework and be very thorough....

i have been with YTB... "your travel business"-- they sell storefronts to idiots that think they are buying a travel business.... the oldest trick in website developement....

open up a store and make tens of thousands of people market your wares .... i have yet to hear one person state that they are making a mid 6-figure income just by selling travel.... they all make money by selling storefronts ... by telling the unsuspecting prospect that they are buying a travel company.... yeah o.k.

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2007 18:51
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i have been with YTB... "your travel business"-- they sell storefronts to idiots that think they are buying a travel business.... the oldest trick in website developement....

open up a store and make tens of thousands of people market your wares .... i have yet to hear one person state that they are making a mid 6-figure income just by selling travel.... they all make money by selling storefronts ... by telling the unsuspecting prospect that they are buying a travel company.... yeah o.k.

Gailtravel
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2007 23:23
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Quoting: ytbtravel
have been with YTB... "your travel business"-- they sell storefronts to idiots that think they are buying a travel business.... the oldest trick in website developement....


You are so bitter!! What happened to you?
I know so many people who are making money from YTB. I personally witnessed a couple receive their $10,000 bonus check. It is what you make it.
I'm selling Travel and also recruiting. What's wrong with it?

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jojobiz
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2007 15:07
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Gailtravel

they can sow you anything on stage and yes a few will make a dollar... while people like you see stars... but they really are not stars.... just what you see when you get hit hard on the head with B.S. so you think you see what is really happening...... YTB stock has sunk to new lows....

YTB International Inc. Issues Q2 2007 Outlook
August 1, 2007
YTB International Inc. announced that it expects to report total revenue of approximately $32 million for the second quarter of fiscal 2007. In addition, the Company anticipates reporting approximately $1 million to approximately $1.25 million in pre-tax net income for the quarter ended June 30, 2007.

The year-to-date results still reflect a loss position.


tldtim
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# Posted: 4 Sep 2007 01:13
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they can sow you anything on stage and yes a few will make a dollar... while people like you see stars... but they really are not stars.... just what you see when you get hit hard on the head with B.S. so you think you see what is really happening...... YTB stock has sunk to new lows....


You can also say just about anything to discredit a company, true or false, in the anonymous world of the internet. YTB's stock just split and to say its sunk to knew lows is a misleading statement. Stocks don't split on a downward spiral.

YTB is a solid way to make business through the recruiting and selling travel as well. I've made good money just by selling the travel alone. If you're willing to put in some time to optimize your website and get the word out about it, you can make money. Search Engine Optimization is a wonderful thing.

What I don't understand is why people are so dead set against it when it can work. The thing is you have to treat it like a business or it isn't going to happen.

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ateamfuntimer
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# Posted: 4 Sep 2007 14:27
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YTB is a reputable company in everything ive read about it. Many people will say something is bad or a scam if they dont make money in it. Thats typical on the internet. You have to do your own research and more importantly you have to work at it. I have many businesses that I presently run and some arent as successful as others but thats all up to me to change it around.

What I want to do is offer all of you YTB people a FREE joint advertising venture. If you are interested please contact me. It entails have a free lead capture page and offering an incentive for people joining your YTB venture. I look forward to talking with many of you soon.

Adam Frederick
Business Entrepreneur + Motivational Speaker and Coach

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escobar30
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2007 03:14
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I'm with YTB the $50 monthly fee will stop once you get six people

piecemeal
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2007 14:32
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I was recently invited by a friend to attend one of these YTB seminars. The bottom line is that it would 1083.00 the first 12 months. As I thought how I would at least recoup this money, here are my thoughts:

1. The web site travel commissions: Not clear to me what the percentages are or how long and by what means the money is received. It appars to me that just passively establishing a web site and passing out business cards may be a tough way to make a buck given all the other options for arranging travel out there. You are basically competing with Orbitz, Travelocity, Expedia, etc. I guess how much in bookings via the web site equals 1083.00 if one were to just go this route.

2. The Travel Compensation: I suppose if you already were planning some travel, you could use the web site and maybe even some sort of YTB credentials to receive a discount on travel packages, room, rental cars, upgrades etc. I am not one to arrange travel based on possible comps. So how many trips would it take to have comps that equal 1083.00?

3. Tax Breaks: There are a lot of IRS regs on the requirements to take advantage of this. I would have to get a lot smarter on what those are. If I find out that by spending 1083.00 in one year I could get tax relief that is more than that, then a definite advantage.

4. Recruiting other RTA's: I personally have a problem with this. I am not the type that would go out and do this. Therefore if the basic premise of the company is that the most money is made by doing this, it is not for me. Unless in items 1 and 2 above their is an advantage to doing so.

One may say I am aiming low, but have a well paying job, nearing retirement, and just looking at different options out there.

kicks
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2007 01:40
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This is from 2005!! Don't you think that by now if this company was operating illegally the BBB would have shut them down by now. Instead they are growing exponentially, just like travel will. They are also offering Medical Benefits to those that are members.

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 05:37
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Below are the words of one of the top tax experts in the country...
Ron Mueller

like i said... you had better know what you are dealing with., YTB won't tell you the full story


In my last issue of Tax Tips, I pointed out
that business trips on cruise ships cannot
be deductible if the ship is registered in
a country other than the U.S.

I thought one or two American flag carriers
worked out of Hawaii, but I may have been
wrong. Astute reader Monique Schaefers,
formerly Merchant Marine, replied, "American
Hawaii Cruise lines was the ONLY American-
registered cruise ship in the Hawaiian islands,
but they are no longer in business. I do NOT
believe there really are ANY American registered
cruise ships anymore."

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2007 15:09
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the bomb!!!!

YTB International Ord Shs Class A (YTBLA)1.85 -0.10 -5.13%
Open: 1.95 High: 1.95 Low: 1.85

Previous Close: 1.95 Volume: 74,770

Eastern Time

luvtravel
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2007 20:51
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http://www.homebasedtravelagent.com/RCICardMillLetter.htm

Terri

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califboomer
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 09:57
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I am interested to know what the other opportunuity for $119 is, can you supply a link to your website or the company??

califboomer
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 10:39
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Quoting: Viajero Latino
I can only recommend about 4 that actually work.


I would be interested to hear your 4 choices.
Thanks

integrity
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 09:15
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I joined YTB in Dec06 and recently dropped out. Of course this business is not for all, but I was very disappointed as I had had phone calls with the upline big guns and was impressed with the idea of collecting commission on all bookings, not recruiting or selling.

That was misleading! The commission you are promised to receive is NOT commission on the total booking. YTB takes out their share of the COMMISSIONABLE VOLUME..note the difference in terms which I was mislead about. For example if a booking was $1000, and you were promised 10% of the booking as commission, what you will receive is 10% of the commisisonable volume which varies from booking to booking. You could receive a disappointing $10 depending from the base booking. I received less than $40 for about 5 bookings made on my sight. I spent approx $800 on YTB and gained about $40.

Without a doubt, the emphasis is on RECRUITING. i don't believe you can survive with YTB unless you recruit recruit recruit and recruit!!!!
Don't be fooled. The terminology misled me into believing cash was coming. Besides, the prices were not competitive with other travel agencies and for most of my target travel market, booking directly with the airlines proved cheaper at the time.

I believe this is a pyramid unless the Attorney Generals office says otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

topcyberdoc
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 21:18
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I found the following info on YTB. Are these complaints valid?

Have you seen the information below? What do you know about it? How would you address the complaints from Charles King if somebody asked you about it?

http://worldwidescam.info/ytb/Chucks%20Corner.htm

http://worldwidescam.info/ytb/Termination%20Appeal%201.pdf

http://worldwidescam.info/ytb/Attorney%20General%20IL%20complaint.pdf

http://worldwidescam.info/ytb/Red%20Flags.htm

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2007 00:25
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YTB is going- going.....????? Gone????

even the owners are selling rapidly...... when i was in they said take the stocks, not the cash when it came to bonuses..... by the way these are from pink sheets... the ghetto department of stocks.... where you can trust the info about as much as a druggy looking for cash to get thier next hit.... they will say and do anything....


Recent Insider Trading Activity: YTB International Ord Shs Class A
Date Name Transaction Num Shares Price(s) Value
09/14/07 TOMER J LLOYD Sold 16,462 $2.80 46,093.60
09/10/07 SORENSEN J KIM Sold 35,000 $3.00 105,000.00
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 41,066 $3.98 163,237.34
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 41,066 $3.99 163,648.02
08/07/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 40,437 $7.65 309,343.06
08/07/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 40,437 $7.65 309,343.06

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2007 14:24
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TB International Ord Shs Class A (YTBLA)
1.45 Down -0.12 -7.64%
Open: 1.51 High: 1.54 Low: 1.30
Previous Close: 1.57 Volume: 219,270
Eastern Time








10/19/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 28,351 $1.75 49,472.50
10/17/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 77,145 $1.76 135,389.47
10/15/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 275,042 $1.85 507,452.50
10/10/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 26,658 $1.96 52,116.39
09/14/07 TOMER J LLOYD Sold 16,462 $2.80 46,093.60
09/10/07 SORENSEN J KIM Sold 35,000 $3.00 105,000.00
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 41,066 $3.99 163,648.02
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 41,066 $3.98 163,237.34
08/07/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 40,437 $7.65 309,343.06
08/07/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 40,437 $7.65 309,343.06

* This filing is an amendment to a previous filing.

ytbtravel
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 10:35
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0/29/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 30,000 $1.43 42,900.00
10/26/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 53,100 $1.34 71,021.25
10/24/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 181,904 $1.34 243,751.36
10/19/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 28,351 $1.75 49,472.50
10/17/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 77,145 $1.76 135,389.47
10/15/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 275,042 $1.85 507,452.50
10/10/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 26,658 $1.96 52,116.39
09/14/07 TOMER J LLOYD Sold 16,462 $2.80 46,093.60
09/10/07 SORENSEN J KIM Sold 35,000 $3.00 105,000.00
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 41,066 $3.98 163,237.34
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 41,066 $3.99 163,648.02
08/07/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 40,437 $7.65 309,343.06
08/07/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 40,437 $7.65 309,343.06

* This filing is an amendment to a previous filing.

Insider filings are updated daily and are based on forms filed monthly with the SEC.

larswellmanor
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 21:22
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thirdworldman- I am thinking about joining ytb. I went to BBB and every complaint was resolved to the BBB's satisfaction. Most had to do with travelers getting refunds. Additionally I know many people in the "traditional" bricks & mortar travel bus and it seems they are getting killed by online travel companies. Probably 75% of those that were in it are either out or doing an online travel bus themselves. They told me that they only made a couple of dollars on plane & hotel bookings too. Also, that the real money is in the cruise sales. So, it sounds like you have to have real expectations- hard work will get you real returns.

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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 21:24
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I also recently booked a trip and shopped it to the majors, priceline, travelocity and orbitz and the price was identical to two of them and cheaper by 5 bucks than orbitz. Seems fairly competitive to me.

jlw
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 23:06 · Edited by: jlw
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Why has no one mentioned this?

Valued RTAs:

"YTB is pleased to announce our best financial quarter ever, followed by a highly successful event with Carnival Cruise Lines just last week. Some of you have expressed concern about the cancellation of our IATA/IATAN accreditation. We want to assure you that this does not, in any way, affect the ability of YTB or its RTAs to sell travel and be paid commissions from the sale of travel. We are actively working with IATA/ IATAN and our legal counsel to substantiate that YTB meets or exceeds IATA's/ IATAN's regulations."

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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 16:14
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and the owners, officers, etc. are still selling off shares like mad...... even those who run the company don't like the company!!!



from the list.

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Recent Insider Trading Activity: YTB International Ord Shs Class A
Date Name Transaction Num Shares Price(s) Value
12/06/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 38,300 $1.24 47,300.50
11/27/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 49,871 $1.25 62,338.75
11/15/07 CLAGG JOHN D Sold 10,000 $1.24 12,400.00
11/08/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 49,700 $1.23 61,131.00
10/29/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 30,000 $1.43 42,900.00
10/26/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 53,100 $1.34 71,021.25
10/24/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 181,904 $1.34 243,751.36
10/19/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 28,351 $1.75 49,472.50
10/17/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 77,145 $1.76 135,389.47
10/15/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 275,042 $1.85 507,452.50
10/10/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 26,658 $1.96 52,116.39
10/02/07 CAUTHEN ANDREW FLETCHER Sold 75,000 $1.95 146,250.00
09/14/07 TOMER J LLOYD Sold 16,462 $2.80 46,093.60
09/10/07 SORENSEN J KIM Sold 35,000 $3.00 105,000.00
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/14/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 60,035 $3.34 200,516.91
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/13/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y* Sold 34,746 $3.80 132,034.80
08/09/07 BRENT MICHAEL Y Sold 41,066 $3.99 163,648.02

jeannine05
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2008 13:17
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Is YTB still in business?

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adcommike
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2008 11:36
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Yes, YTB is still in business.

I would like to take some time here to speak about some of the topics in this forum.

Quite frankly every business in the country has negative postings on the web. The addage of "You can't please everyone everytime" is true. Some people's expectations are beyond belief. YTB is a business. As with any business it requires WORK!!! If you are not willing to work, your business profits will not magically appear. MLM is by far not for everyone, but for some people it is. I personally hate talking to my friends and family so I don't. I believe with MLM using more conventional means of marketing is the answer. I may get Shot for that remark but it is true.

The benefits outweigh the downfalls and YTB if worked right is an outstanding business op. It is just like anything else You Get Out Of It Exactly What You Put Into It. If you started a sandwich shop you would have to do various advertising to get customers to come in to try your food. The same principles apply here.

As far as being competitive I will give you an example of something that happened to me a few years ago. I was looking online for a trip to Cancun. Constantly going back and forth between Funjet, MLT, and Apple. The rates finally dropped down to what I was willing to pay. After much thought and consideration,and trying to wait it out to see if I could get it any cheaper I booked my trip to paradise. 4 days later they were all 15-20 percent cheaper, even who I booked with. Where I am essentially going with this is YTB is a large booking engine, planning to be the largest by 2011 and actuall are now on target for late 2010. The rules of supply and demand are in effect here just like they are in the food and auto industries, and virtually anything else this world has to offer.

As far as stock pricing goes I don't know much about that, but I have been watching a VERY shaky stock market over the last few years. Could that just possibly have any thing to do with the stock prices

I would love to hear some replies.

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