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travelingcoastal
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2007 23:52
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I'm ready to sign up with Coastal, but am so confused with which Mentor to sign up. I want to have 100% support if I need it. I also made my decision with which group to go. I decided to join "wecloseyoursales". I would not like to be selling and talking to people. Do I have actually have the choice of how I would like to have my website look like?
Thanks for all the great support on that forum.
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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2007 10:04
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Traveling Coastal,
Congrats on deciding on WCYS! You will NOT be sorry. You will get the support you need. You can ask any of my new members who are on this forum and I think they would agree 100%. I have spent literally hours on the phone coaching and getting to know my new members so that they are familiar with Me personally and our methods of marketing. My director has spent hours coaching me and it paid off because he got his two pass up sales. It will take some work but understand that there will be times that a prospect will tell one of the reps at the call center that they want to talk to you, the person behind the website. You definately want to talk to that person and tell them that you and your director will be willing to walk the extra mile with them to be successful.
As far as the website goes, you can choose from several different choices for landing pages or the page that your prospect will enter his or her contact info. When they get to the main call center site like you have already seen, the only thing you can change is your "about me" site. You can ad your picture and write a personal message to anyone who might be looking at the site. You can also add html if you want to.
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2007 10:15
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At what level are you going to join, Traveling Coastal?
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extraincome
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2007 13:25
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how much time is spent on the phone with this Coastal Synergy Group business....to answer and say that you get as much as you put it doesn't help me too much. I have a full time job and 3 teens - I want a part-time income producing business...is this for me?
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2007 09:48
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Extraincome,
The time you spend on the phone is completely related to how you market your business. If you place alot of ads in newspapers and on the internet, you will start getting calls like crazy and you will have to start spending time on the phone if you really want to make sales. That is how the business works and it is way better than going to a part time job somewhere else. I like the way our call center works simply because they will take the calls for us and it lets us focus on advertising. There are times that I do spend on the phone because someone called into the call center and said they wanted to speak to the person that will be there director or they emailed me asking me to call them so I jumped right on the phone and called them to answer questions but I don't mind doing this because they are already interested in finding answers so it is worth my time to answer them so they can be sure that I will be a good match for them personalitywise and they can be sure that the Call Center would be right for them. The MOST IMPORTANT THING IS FOR YOU TO BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN MAKE MONEY WITH THIS BUSINESS! If you would feel better joining with a group that makes the sales themselves without a call center then you need to join that group. If the person from CSG that you talked to is a friend and will help you even after you are qualified then you might want to join their group simply to work with them. Don't join if you aren't completely convinced that you are dedicated to succeed in this business no matter what group gets you as a member. I tell all of my prospects that I want them to be "Happy and Productive" and if you are not both of those it will look bad on me. You need to be willing to spend at least 2 to 3 hours a day on this business and it can be done in that amount of time or less with our program and I'm sure with some of the others that don't use a call ceneter also.
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hottravelbiz
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2007 16:31
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Congrats on your decision to join coastal vacations!
I have been in coastal vacations (The Automated Sales System) for quite some time and continue to do very well with it!
What ever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve.
- Napolean Hill
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tomcha
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2007 00:29
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Hi extraincome,
You're definitely right, but the statement is true for the majority of cases. You do get what you put in. What makes the difference is the business that you are in or the way you run the business.
If you are running it very inefficiently, putting in 10 hours of work might only produce one sale of $1000, let's say. But if you have a more efficient system, you might be able to get out 3 or 4 sales totaling $3000 or $4000 (as an example) out of the same 10 hours of part time work.
Compare it to the industrial revolution. Before factories were built, everything was made in a slow process. But with the help of the factories, manufacturers could produce the same items much faster and cheaper, thereby increasing their revenue and profit.
I think that's the key in any business. Almost any business that you can think of will make money. It's a matter of figuring out how to run it well and how to do so efficiently. Time is money after all.
"Efficiently" has another meaning. Saving time is a giant issue for most people, but here's another one. Less work!
As someone once said, "Laziness, not necessity, is the mother of invention."
Everyone I know will choose to work less to get the same amount of work done if possible. And that's also where the system comes in.
And that's why I'm personally a huge fan of a call center system. Personally, I think that's just a smart business move.
If you plan to just make a couple of sale, pass them up to your director, and quit, then forget the call center. Go on your own and save a few bucks.
But if you plan to go for the distance and make good income for yourself, I think you need to check out something like it for your own future growth and benefit.
Just think of all the time you'll save by not having to talk to every single person that shows a little bit of interest. Let the CC handle them. And if someone is really interested, but desperately need to talk to you, then you can give them a quick call.
So far, I haven't come across any other system that does something like this. Some of the other ones I've seen approach the 'scam' line a little too close for my comfort (I won't name those programs).
I guess it's a long answer, but I think yes, this can be definitely a great part time business that can grow into a full time business. Even for a parent of 3 teens.
Hope that helps somewhat.
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jlDunn
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2007 16:20
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Extraincome
I am with CSG and the amount of time you spend on the phone is entirely up to you. I don't really know much about these call centres and all but I generally spend 2 - 3 hours a day on the phone, or the internet, but it's not always talking to prospects. We have a huge back office of support so I spend a lot of time their training, and stuff.
I have 2 kids under 5, and 2 step kids that spend the weekend with me.
We have a great autoresponder system that sends our prospects information by email as soon as they ask for it. I can get a lot of my prospects most of the information without ever picking up the phone.
I know that is kind of a beat around the bush answer but I hope it helps.
Lindsay
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susaneng
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2007 03:39
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Welcome to Coastal Traveling Coastal! I am with wecloseyoursales and I don't think you will be disappointed. There is definitely lots of support and help.
Wishing you lots of success!
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roger
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2007 19:46 � Edited by: roger
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Quoting: extraincome how much time is spent on the phone with this Coastal Synergy Group business....to answer and say that you get as much as you put it doesn't help me too much. I have a full time job and 3 teens - I want a part-time income producing business...is this for me?
Extraincome,
We have one child and she's a handful, clearly your time is limited to running a business, much less having time for yourself!
The only person who can answer if this business is for you - is obviously you.
In re-reading your post, allow me to break this down for you(obviously I could be waaaay off with your reality, but here goes)
You come home from work, change your clothes, maybe have a half hour to wind down and then you start dinner (maybe the kids cook??). You eat, watch some tv and by now it's, maybe, 8-ish pm.
Do you see yourself making phone calls, prospecting?
If you do, then the CSG is a great place to be. They are a well-connected, successful group within the Coastal family. They have strong leaders who know what that word means and have support and training systems in place that is designed to do one thing - help you succeed.
If you don't see yourself making a number of phone calls then the Call Center makes more sense. As long as you dedicate a few hours a week (and you must be consistent) to advertise the Call Center, they will handle the other 80% of the workload for you. Explained simply, they will call, follow up and close your leads and send you the check directly.
You should know that within only two years in business the Call Center has become Coastal Vacations #1 marketing arm, it's top selling group, because it works. The Center is comprised of Sales Professionals who know what they're doing.....
If you wanted your car engine repaired would you call a plumber?
Good luck with your choice if you haven't made it already!
Expect to win,
Roger
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dawnmo
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2007 11:35
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Welcome to Coastal! You can't go wrong if you join with Harold..he's awesome!
Dawn 
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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2007 16:07
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Aw' shucks.
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tomcha
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2007 11:29
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Agreed.
WCYS is great for their amount of training information in the back office, autoresponder (adjustable with your private message; the original ones are written by Jeff Mills who earned ~$1,000,000 in the last 3 years), and of course the Sales reps.
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beckie1229
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2007 16:42
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I can't wait to get into that backoffice of the WCYS center!!!!!!!!
I'm the researcher, the study-er, the writer of ads, the keeping track of what's been done, what needs to be done.....
Frank is the talker, the Mr. Impulsive, the one who finds computers easy, the conference call host in his other company...
...we can't wait to be working together in the SAME company for a change!
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jnapier
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2007 00:58
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Finding the right mentor and coach for Coastal really depends on experience.
I started my self employment career at 17. I've owned a restaurant franchise, convience story, soy candle business, consulting firm and I'm one of the top income earners with Coastal.
It's important to realize that the PHONE is the best tool to use when choosing a director. Can you get them on the phone? How do they do business? Is it cold or can you REALLY get to know your director?
What's In It For Me? Ask yourself that! Do they do business what I want to do business? Are they are Level 3 Director?
Who's going to be your partner in this business? Can you depend on them?
Hope this helps.
Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director
Coastal Vacations
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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2007 14:28
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Quoting: jnapier Are they are Level 3 Director?
Jay,
I would like to ask you if you are saying that a person should only join under a level 3 director? If this is so then you are probably knocking out 95% of the people who are in Coastal right now. I am not a level 3 director and I have a great organization and I give my members great support. To imply that a person should always seek out a level 3 director to join with would keep most of the people joining from getting any sales and undermine all teams, including your own. Is this what you are saying or am I misunderstanding you? I have no problem encouraging people to join my new members even to the point of sacrificing a new sale generated by me to help a new member get qualified quicker. I am going to get the sale anyway so why not help them get qualified as quickly as possible? I couldn't do that if I encouraged all new prospects to ask if their director was a level 2 or 3 before they join. I believe in doing everything you can to help your new members be successful so they can be happy and productive and be good examples for everyone looking into Coastal in the future. I also believe in placing ads for new members if you have the time and resources. Being a good director is not determined by what level you are at. If this is not what you meant to say then please except my appologies but it sure sounded like that's what you meant.
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tomcha
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2007 17:05
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I must say that I agree with Harold on his point.
Not to sound negative, it sounds like you are holding yourself higher than other directors in Coastal based on your Level 3 status.
Being Level 1, 2 or 3 can mean different things for different people. Seeing that level 3 sales are more rare, it could be that a person doesn't see too much 'need' to upgrade to a level 3 status.
Maybe they are more focused on giving better support for their team members. It might be true or not, but what I am saying is that it is irresponsible for a person to claim to be better solely based on the level status.
And the term 'good director' is different for the prospects as well. To some, it will mean seeking out those who know how to sell. To others, it will mean someone who are genuinely interested in their success. The list is endless because everyone has different value system.
So as Coastal members, I think we should all keep in mind of this and be respectful. There is nothing wrong with self promotion. That's not the issue here, as far as I understand.
To me, the issue here is the lack of respect for others in crossing that line by taking a subjective element and making it seem objective.
Just my two cents here.
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2007 07:00
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Quoting: tomcha but what I am saying is that it is irresponsible for a person to claim to be better solely based on the level status. And the term 'good director' is different for the prospects as well. To some, it will mean seeking out those who know how to sell. To others, it will mean someone who are genuinely interested in their success. The list is endless because everyone has different value system. So as Coastal members, I think we should all keep in mind of this and be respectful. There is nothing wrong with self promotion. That's not the issue here, as far as I understand. To me, the issue here is the lack of respect for others in crossing that line by taking a subjective element and making it seem objective.
Well said! The level just indicates the cost of the package it does not make one director better because of the level package they purchased!
My husband is a Pharmacist with a Doctor of Pharmacy degree AND he owned his own successful Pharmacy in CostaMesa California yet he purchased a Level one pkg to start with to see how it all worked. I consider him to be an experienced businessman and marketing person and yes a level one director.
So those considering buying in don't be fooled by the "level" the director boasts make your own decision as to which package will work for you.
Terri
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tomcha
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2007 17:11
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Thanks Terri and wish you the best of luck.
Thomas
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daretodream
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# Posted: 26 Feb 2007 19:15
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I definitely agree with the last few comments. You do not need to be with a L3 director. If I decide to upgrade to L3 at some point it will be for the travel benefits because I really cannot imagine that a lot of people purchase the L3 package.
Seems to me from things I have read that people think the difference between the levels is experience. We must, as Coastal team members, try to disabuse people of this erroneous notion. One is not a better leader than another simply because they purchased a more expensive package. That would be akin to saying that a person who paid to go to a private school is smarter than someone who went to public school.
When trying to decide which director to sign up under it is important to have conversations with them and judge based on your rapport with them as opposed to a flashy website (since some have their own websites) or which level they are at. I chose my director from several different groups based on information about the group alone. Since you have already decided which group to go with and are looking to choose a director to go with in that group then rapport would be the next most logical deciding factor IMO.
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tomcha
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# Posted: 27 Feb 2007 05:50
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Quoting: daretodream One is not a better leader than another simply because they purchased a more expensive package. That would be akin to saying that a person who paid to go to a private school is smarter than someone who went to public school.
Well put.
I think anyone who is in Coastal knows this. It's not a very hard thing to figure out.
But I've seen too many directors using this as a selling point to prospect who are new to Coastal and don't know what the levels mean. They are led to believe that higher level is somehow better.
I have no problems of directors stating it as a matter of fact ("I am a Level x director with Coastal"), but when they start implicating that the levels indicate how successful a person is with Coastal or how good of a leader they are, I think they are doing what amounts to 'false advertising'.
Thomas
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roger
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# Posted: 1 Mar 2007 08:09 � Edited by: roger
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Hi there,
With respect to this subject, it would be remissive to not recognize the people who have achieved a higher level without buying it directly.
If you are a Level 1 or 2 Director and you're willing to pass up the sales to become a Level 3, that does say something about your sales and leadership ability. We should be clear you don't necessarily have to buy your way in (although most do), you can also qualify. I personally have more respect for those who have 'qualified up' as opposed to 'buying in'.
Roger
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daretodream
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# Posted: 1 Mar 2007 21:48
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I'm confused about what you are saying there Roger. You still must buy the L3 package to become a L3 director....you simply give up more sales if you start at a lower level because of the fact that you need to make 2 L3 sales to qualify.
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roger
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2007 14:07 � Edited by: roger
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To clarify, if you are a L2 Director and you sell two Platinum packages, Level 3 Director's have been known to release you to L3 because you've proven yourself.
Roger
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tomcha
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# Posted: 3 Mar 2007 07:07
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Hm.. I haven't heard that before. I guess each director is different on this point? As far as I know, it isn't a standard practice.
Thomas
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roger
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# Posted: 4 Mar 2007 13:16
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You're right T I wouldn't say it's a standard practice but an individual thing instead.
Roger
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barefootmentor
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# Posted: 8 Mar 2007 15:35
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Quoting: travelingcoastal I'm ready to sign up with Coastal, but am so confused with which Mentor to sign up.
I just have to slip in my 2 cents worth here. I'm not actually with Coastal, but I do teach, train and mentor people. Believe me it does make a difference who you decide to partner with, get to know them first before signing up then the decision will come to you.
Cindy McAsey
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2007 10:50
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In any business the key to being successful vs unsuccessful is mentoring.
Why is franchising the most successful business model? It is because there is a system to follow which includes ongoing support and training(mentoring).
The home business arena attracts many folks who are not self motivating or business savvy. Thus if there is not a strong mentoring program, or upline mentor, to guide them they give up/quit, or as the negatroids call it, fail.
It is important that you find a sponsor who is willing to take you by the hand and lead you every step of the way. That sponsor does not have to be super successful, yet. But they should give you the indication that they are being mentored by their upline and that they are strictly following a successful system themselves.
(A good indication of this is if they quickly introduce you to other successful people in their upline, this shows that they are duplicating success).
Then you yourself must work hard, invest in your business and eventually graduate from student to becoming a teacher/mentor to your people as well.
Jeff
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tomcha
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# Posted: 11 Mar 2007 11:33
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Another aspect that I think a lot of people overlook is the element of teaching. Ideally, the person that you sign up with should be a good communicator that can tell and show you the important lessons in a way that you can understand.
Sure, there are systems in place and training materials, but the truth is that most people will benefit, to a varying degree, from personal attention. And for some, that personal attention will make the difference in their business being a success.
It could be the case that even with the best training material, the person just has a hard time learning from written communication methods (e.g., those who are auditory learners). Wouldn't it be helpful to have a person who can understand how you learn and deliver the material to you in a way that you can understand?
I guess this is based more or less on the concept of "it's not what you say, it's how you say it that matters".
Thomas
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2007 23:19
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I agree Thomas!
I believe that everyone is a unique individual, and though the systems in place are GREAT there is no substitute for that personal guidance that resonates with YOU!
I fully recommend that anyone seriously considering coastal check out all the different groups throughly and search until they find the right director FOR THEM!
You need to be able to trust that person, respect that person and most importanly communicate openly and honestly with them. They have to like and respect YOU and genuinely have your best interests at heart, they NEED to be a good teacher and the right one for YOU.
I'm sure everyone had a special teacher back in school days... I know I sure did. I can tell you that teacher taught me more, and those lessons are in my heart and my mind until this day. I retained a great deal of it because she taught me in a way that I understood and I understood it VERY WELL.
THAT is the coastal director you need to find for YOU! The person who will BE THERE FOR YOU in the peaks and the valleys. The person who knows when to hold your hand and knows how to let you fly.
My advice is to call and interview them. If you have done your homework, ask them questions. Listen carefully to their answer. Does it resonate with YOU? Do you like this person? Do you respect them? Trust them?
Call and call and call. Do they respect YOU for obviously doing your homework and having questions? Do they invite you to team trainings to let you see what they are all about and what the other team members are like? Will they refer you to team members so that you can speak with them about their experiences-good and bad?
Do you get that vital impression that they will be there for you NOW and TOMORROW and every day in your Coastal dream after that?
What happens after you get your L3 release? Is that person still going to be willing to assist you any time you need it?
Ask the questions that mean something to you.. and do not stop or settle until you get the answers that resonate with you! Then you have found your director!
Congrats and best wishes!
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
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