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# Posted: 22 Aug 2007 14:28
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Thank You Vishal 
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2007 19:39
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If you are frustrated as a Coastal Home Based Business Owner then let's find a way to change that. The first thing I do with my teammates is reevaluate how they are working. The system for Coastal is pretty simple. Contact prospects, qualify them. get them to the info, answers questions and handle objections and then get them started. If you are frustrated it's because one of the cylinders isn't going right. I say take it back to basics. As our websites and technology become more advanced its easy to rely on that technology as opposed to the old fashioned methods.
Here is what I do. When I call a prospect my mind is this. Today is their lucky day. Im calling to offer an opportunity of a lifetime. The ability to start a business that produces multiple 6 figure earners each year for the low cost of $1295 and the highest cost of $11000. In addition they get to travel for a discount for life. What could be better? Imagine as a guy and getting Super Bowl or World Series tickets for like 90% the retail rate. Could you call the rest of the guys and tell them the great news. Of course you could. If you are a lady could you tell your girlfriends about a great designer clothes sale? I bet you could. Treat your business the same way. It's that simple.
When you change your mindset you change the world. We have what everyone wants and this is your opportunity to share so go out and be happy and feel blessed that you are the messenger. When you do the frustrations will go away.
That's just my 2 cents for you all.
By the way check out our feature article in the HBC magazine in May 2006
http://hbc.idigitaledition.com/issue.php?issue=5 page 26 + 27
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# Posted: 2 Sep 2007 15:14
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Thanks for your spam... Yamy, yamy...
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Can someone tell me the logistics of going to a different team if you haven't yet qualified? I did not investigate the different teams thorough enough when I started. I saw a great opportunity and then just jumped. I came in at level II two months ago and I am having some issues with my director.
Thanks in advance for your help
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If you are frustrated in your business don't feel alone. The fact of the matter is most people won't join your business. To be honest they don't have what it takes to make it. That's not a knock on them its life. If everyone was a winner there would be not differences in financial situations. You have to learn to look just for the winners.
It's nice to have everyone join your business but let's look at it this way. If you put any old tire on your car or any old engine in your car will it run correctly? I think not. So you want the right people. In most down lines only a few people really work. Those are the winners like you. Learn to find them.
How can you find them you ask? The cream rises to the top. People that are winners show it. They have certain characteristics that set them apart. They will go do their due diligence, they will have questions as they are serious and they will be ready to make a decision. Serious people look at the facts and then make a decision.
If someone isn't serious don't waste time on them. Let your website and auto-responder do the work. That's the beauty of it.
So if you are frustrated don't be there are winners out there and when you learn the true and proven methods of finding them life will be grand. Don't just grab be a sorter and the cream will rise to the top.
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2007 13:06
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Hey westfam11,
Here's the thing. Say you joined CSG level II and you owe your first two Level II sales to your director. Now you know a bit more and have seen a different group and maybe your director is not what you thought they were. Maybe now you want to go to the Official System. Well, the problem is that no matter where you are in Coastal, you still owe your first two sales to your director. So if you were advertising and promoting with COA, let's say you make a Level II sale. Well, that propsect will be passed up to your director (CSG) and not the system you showed them.
My advice would be work your director to the bone and have them earn their money to get you qualified as quickly as possible. Then you are free to do whatever you want. I don't know what group you are with, but try to reach out to other members, or the leadership team of that group.
Sorry you are having issues. Unfortunately this happens. For those looking in to Coastal, it is critical to hook up with a director who will support you, not only for the first two sales, but for the long haul. Make sure your director does not treat this business like a part time hobby. If you want to make the big bucks, you have got to give it 100%.
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Quoting: decker2006 Here's the thing. Say you joined CSG level II and you owe your first two Level II sales to your director. Now you know a bit more and have seen a different group and maybe your director is not what you thought they were. Maybe now you want to go to the Official System. Well, the problem is that no matter where you are in Coastal, you still owe your first two sales to your director. So if you were advertising and promoting with COA, let's say you make a Level II sale. Well, that propsect will be passed up to your director (CSG) and not the system you showed them.
I don't understand that concept and here is why. You join "with" Director A they made $1000 commission minimum off of you. Now you owe them your first 2 sales as "training" sales IF they did not "train" you and/or help or assist you what do you owe them - they did make $1k or more off of you and at that point if I felt they were not giving me what I needed then why can't I move on if I had not at that point made ANY sales?????
Isn't that why the 2 sales passed up are called "training" sales?
That's like in MLM someone can buy the product from me as a retail purchase but sign up to do the business with someone else who will train and mentor them.
JMO.
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2007 18:57
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Well, then how would you get your "official" directors release? It comes from a qualified director and it lists the two training sales you made and passed up. Maybe there are loopholes, I don't know. Maybe it is not policed very closely, but wouldn't your coastal member number be tied to the director that brought you in? I think this is a pretty hard and fast rule, unless you sign up again and pay your commissions. I would be interested to know if there is a way around this because I have talked to many people who realized AFTER they signed up that Coastal is great but their director is a dud. I don't mind lending a helping hand, but I need to spend my time with training sales that make a commission for me.
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2007 22:36 · Edited by: decker2006
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Rhonda,
What is your email address? You don't have one posted in your profile. Send me a PM if you don't want it public.
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2007 09:36
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I have been a frustrated director. Early on in my business I was not getting the training I needed and I was just out there by myself floating along looking for the right was to do things.
I plugged into the official coastal trainings and this began to build a foundation. I went to my first coastal seminar in Orlando that the board of directors put on...and it really was the first REAL ground breaking for me.
I spent a few years with the Coastal Synergy Group. In the beginning it was a great group to be a part of ( and this is not personal - there are some great people over there), but I it's what I didn't know that really made a difference.
I didn't use the csg system as they suggest as I do have years of experience as an internet based network marketing professional and knew that many would not watch the movie presentation. I put together a system that allowed me to not have to chase people and to be able to only work with the serious people.
As I grew more and more successful I began to see issues with the way the CSG was growing and beginning to do things. I'd always stayed connected to the official coastal training and support, so I' simply made the decision to go back to the official coastal training and support systems.
If your not getting the results your looking for, it could be that you've chosen to partner with the wrong group? Are they keeping you informed about official tools, events and training?? Why are they keeping this from you???
If your frustrated, it could be that you've bought into a system that doesn't work. You could be spending too much on marketing. There are so, so many things that can keep your from your success.
Before you buy into some of the "stuff" being sold to help you have succes with Coastal, know that there is an underlying sales pitch taking place.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2007 17:46
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Its time to look at what you have learned about your Coastal Business and evaluate it. If you are frustrated then change something. Every system can be tweaked. There are some things in every system that need to be there but alot is up to you. You need to be open to change. If something isnt working scrap it. Stop following the crowd. Be unique. Learn to think a little out of the box.
If you are frustrated then change it as a frown is only a smile upside down.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2007 21:33
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I am confused on your post - are you makeing statements - or asking questions?
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2007 13:03 · Edited by: JenaV
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Hi westfam11,
We adopt new members all the time. With the CWB, all you have to do is get your marketing system up and going. $59.95 a month - no setup fees. that's it, no strings attached.
So you are an Associate? Or are you a Director? Contact me through the new PM feature.
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2007 13:18 · Edited by: JenaV
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Quoting: rhondap Quoting: decker2006 Here's the thing. Say you joined CSG level II and you owe your first two Level II sales to your director. Now you know a bit more and have seen a different group and maybe your director is not what you thought they were. Maybe now you want to go to the Official System. Well, the problem is that no matter where you are in Coastal, you still owe your first two sales to your director. So if you were advertising and promoting with COA, let's say you make a Level II sale. Well, that propsect will be passed up to your director (CSG) and not the system you showed them. I don't understand that concept and here is why. You join "with" Director A they made $1000 commission minimum off of you. Now you owe them your first 2 sales as "training" sales IF they did not "train" you and/or help or assist you what do you owe them - they did make $1k or more off of you and at that point if I felt they were not giving me what I needed then why can't I move on if I had not at that point made ANY sales????? Isn't that why the 2 sales passed up are called "training" sales? That's like in MLM someone can buy the product from me as a retail purchase but sign up to do the business with someone else who will train and mentor them. JMO.
Wow that is confusing...
With the CWB - You owe only the 2 sales of entry to get the Director's release.
Example: I came in at Platinum, I've kept all the sales & profits below that Level (Platinum). (I keep all L1&L2) The only two sales I pass up to my Director is Platinum. My Director has helped me with all of my sales. Whether or not she receives compensation from my sales; she is there 100%!
This compensation plan complies with the Official Board of Directors and it enable Associates like myself to Make Money NOW, NOT 2 sales from now!!!
That is why I came in at Platinum and have made over $30k in a year, working my Business VERY VERY Part-time (8-10 hours a week on average) Sometimes I don't do ANY new dials.
However, I'm available to my team members at ALL Times. The Team Success is Priority in my Business Foundation!
Hope this helps. Have a Blessed Weekend.
Hugs,
Jena
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I had started with Coastal last year and ended up leaving due to personal reasons.I do have one training sale completed but my director has left the CSG system in the meantime and has her own system which she uses with the CSG demo sites.I have looked at it and I don't really see the value in it.I am considering starting things back up either with the CSG or COA.I am leaning towards COA as their fees are $10 less per month and also only $15 start up not $99.Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with my situation.
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Hi emmjay,
If I were you I would have a talk with my director. She may be able to suggest something that would work out for both of you since you already have one training sale out of the way.
But, since you asked, if I were in your position I think I would go with the COA sites. The COA sites cost less and then after you have five people signed up with their websites under you, your websites are free.
Talk to your director and let us know what you decide and how it all works out! Welcome to the forum and I wish you the best!
Lora
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2007 10:09
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Hi emmjay,
My advice would be to plug into the COA tele-center (minimum)
And shop around for a Marketing system you do see the value in.
jenav
Quoting: emmjay I had started with Coastal last year and ended up leaving due to personal reasons.I do have one training sale completed but my director has left the CSG system in the meantime and has her own system which she uses with the CSG demo sites.I have looked at it and I don't really see the value in it.I am considering starting things back up either with the CSG or COA.I am leaning towards COA as their fees are $10 less per month and also only $15 start up not $99.Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with my situation.
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 14:09
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Are you a frustrated Coastal distributor? Many are. You are not alone. This is a very easy business but can drive you batty. We see many that succeed right away and begin to question ourselves. Well here are some tips on getting over the frustration.
1- Stop comparing yourself to others.
2- Change your mental attitude.
3- Reevaluate your methods.
4- Plan a complimentary vacation and get away if you can.
5- Listen to testimonies and begin to use them when you talk to prospects
If you do that it will change your business dramatically. You will become the success you deserve. Look at this frustration as a learning experience. I once heard that stress is the gap between what we expect and what we are getting. If that gap is wide then take a deep breathe and change your thought process. Begin to enjoy this business again.
Adam Frederick
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Frustration comes from the gap of what we expect and what we have. What do you expect from your Coastal Business? That is a huge question. Many expect clients to just fall from the sky. Now many will say hey im making the calls , im talking to people and im getting no results. Yes that can happen from time to time. Thats why it is important to make your business well rounded. Here are a few tips on how you should do your advertising so there is always a season for it to flourish.
1- Have enough leads to call by buying a certain amount every month
2- Learn to create leads by using referrals in your warm market
3- Create your own leads by use of free classified ads
4- If you dont have a landing page get one asap. Many people use them with great success. ( I even market ones for clients)
5- Put out articles and blogs
6- Join business forums and social networks
7- Give away vacations
8- Do fundraisers and charity events
9- Retail the product to businesses
These are some of the simple things you can do to supercharge your business. If you have questions you can contact me so I can guide you through them. I hope to talk soon and good luck in your Coastal business venture.
Adam Frederick
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Quoting: emmjay Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with my situation.
Emmjay,
I'd go with the Official System and Training. Getting the information right from the horse is one of the best things to do and there's no hidden agenda.
I've helped a bunch of former CSG folks make the change and should you have questions...give me a call and I'll help you out.
Jay NaPier
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emmjay,
Welcome back!Glad to have you in the forum...
Keep us posted on your success
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2007 09:20
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Are you frustrated that your Coastal Business isnt going as planned? Many have been there. What can you do to change things around you ask? I say that you need to take a step back and get back to basics. Many of us get distracted by this new product or this new training or doing business this way. I will say Coastal has so many tools available that I have literally spent days just training on using tools. Many new people get training overload. So to alleviate that get back to basics.
How do you do that Adam you ask? Learn to open your mouth. How many people do you talk to in a day in your everyday chores. Well ask them where do they like to vacation. Then tell them a story. If leads are the lifeblood of our business then stories and testimonies are the oxygen. Its like E F Hutton (all of you older folks like me should remember their commercials). Their commercial went something like this..."When E F Hutton talks people listen". Well when I tell people I went to Disney for a week and stayed in a 5 bedroom house for $735 they listen as well.
If you are frustrated then get back to the basics of telling people about a great travel package you saw. Everyone loves travel and everyone loves to save money. So open your mouth and tell a story and watch the results. The greatest teacher of all time told parables (stories) all the time and people listened and still tell them to this day. So dont reinvent the wheel. Use a proven method. Someone once said to me there is nothing new under the sun it just gets dressed up different. So dont get frustrated at all. Just dress yourself up again and watch the results.
If you are looking at Coastal then get back to the person that showed you the opportunity. If you are brand new and need a director then look on this forum there are a bunch of us here. Im open to a conversation to see how serious you are about Coastal and secondly to see if we have a business fit.
Adam Frederick
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I'm just not sure about these vacation programs. I know myself that a few years ago when I was just like every other average 9-5 working person I had no use for a vacation package.
Picture a cigarette smoker on a raft in the middle on the ocean with a book of wet matches. Even though that person is craving a cigarette you could give them a pack or a carton it wouldn't matter if they couldn't light them.
Get a program that negotiates a paid vacation from the boss and you'll have a hit. I probably would have worked for the second paycheck anyways back then just so I could make ends meet.
Vacations packages are something everyone wants but few can actually use. I know you don't want to hear this but it's the way I feel. Your fulfilling dreams not reality. I would really like to know what percentage of the vacation benefits go unused.
It just seems like your targeting a limited audience and once supply meets demand there is no more growth.
My mind is not closed so I'm open to someone changing my opinion. Your comments are not only welcomed but desired.
Perhaps the retiring baby boomers are your market. Has anyone determined what their online habits are?
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2007 10:10 · Edited by: rhondap
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is fine perhaps you have no use for the vacations or can not imagine using them but there is so much anyone can do with a 3 day 2 night vacation...vacations don't always have to be a week or 2 weeks etc as most people on a 9-5 job thinks. How about taking a weekend getaway once per month? That is a reality with our package and at an affordable price.
Our market is not limited and it will always be growing.
JMO.
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2007 10:23 · Edited by: ateamfuntimer
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Many people wonder if a travel package is a good deal. I can say for me it has been. Ive saved well over 10k using it. Not to mention I have unlimited cruises and taxes only vacations I can give away to family , to friends or even to grow my business. That is the beauty. Imagine using travel incentives to grow any business you are in. Imagine going to a car dealership and getting a cruise for buying a car from them. That would be a good deal. Well as business owners spend 10's of thousands of dollars on adverting imagine the saving they get by either buying or our level one package for $1295 with its unlimited taxes only vacations. What if they spent $3995 for our level II package with its unlimited Royal Caribbean and Carnival cruises? How about if they spent $11000 for our level III package with its unlimited all inclusive vacations. For a business owner this is a steal.
Oh I forgot to mention we make either $1000, $3200 or $9705 for our efforts in marketing these products. Now another point is this. How many times have you went to visit family and stayed in a small bedroom. Or maybe you didnt want the small bedroom as you wanted privacy and stayed in a hotel for a few days and spent $300. Why not get a condo that goes for $300 for a week. Hey even if you dont stay for a week the convenience is worth it.
And last but not least the travel industry is at about 7 trillion a year now and growing by about 20% a year. You can get involved and take advantage of the trend and make a fortune. Not to mention you will save. What is the saying its not what you make but what you save. I think Coastal is a good choice for a business as its a great product at a great price with great commission and we even have a great system to market it.
Hope that helps.
Adam Frederick
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Hi MK,
I am a little surprised by your comment. Perhaps I misunderstood. I would venture to say that a HUGE amount of people take vacations. This includes regular Joe's with only 2 or 3 weeks vacation per year. Even someone on a tight budget could benefit from being a member of Coastal Vacations - maybe even more than someone who has a larger disposable income. Someone in that position can take a "dream" vacation they otherwise could not afford. I don't know if you have ever been to Orlando and the theme parks there, but those places are PACKED! Travel is one of the biggest industries on this planet. The market for this membership is staggering.
Even if you take just one vacation per year, wouldn't the savings be worth it? Don't forget, this is a lifetime membership, one time cost. You can also give vacations away to family and friends.
You asked how much of the vacation package goes unused. Well, the question should be how much did you save on that one vacation you took. Nobody could possibly use 100% of the benefits of the package. There is just not enough time!! You choose which vacations you want to take.
There are people who just don't have any money. That is a fact. But that is not your target audience anyway. There is a whole big wide world out there with all kinds of people and all kinds of interests.
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Quoting: MrsKatherine I'm just not sure about these vacation programs. I know myself that a few years ago when I was just like every other average 9-5 working person I had no use for a vacation package. Picture a cigarette smoker on a raft in the middle on the ocean with a book of wet matches. Even though that person is craving a cigarette you could give them a pack or a carton it wouldn't matter if they couldn't light them. Get a program that negotiates a paid vacation from the boss and you'll have a hit. I probably would have worked for the second paycheck anyways back then just so I could make ends meet. Vacations packages are something everyone wants but few can actually use. I know you don't want to hear this but it's the way I feel. Your fulfilling dreams not reality. I would really like to know what percentage of the vacation benefits go unused. It just seems like your targeting a limited audience and once supply meets demand there is no more growth. My mind is not closed so I'm open to someone changing my opinion. Your comments are not only welcomed but desired. Perhaps the retiring baby boomers are your market. Has anyone determined what their online habits are?
I absolutely understand what you are saying! I thought the same way when I was first looking at this. I didn't think that this package could help us. We were trying to make ends meet and with two kids and crazy job changes taking place, I just couldn't see it being useful for us.
Luckily, my hubby did see it. And he had a very good point. The package really doesn't cost much. We had been to Disney a few months before I heard about Coastal and we spent $3,000 on a condo (we had saved for that for over 2 years). We loved Disney, so we knew we would be going back when things calmed down financially. The Disney trips alone made the package worth it to us.
Now, we didn't go out and start vacationing right away - there was no way that we could have at that time.
The very first time we used our package we saved about half of the Basic Membership price. My hubby got a new job and he had to go out of town for training. He had to stay in a hotel which wasn't covered by the company. So, we saved using the package, even though it wasn't for fun, but it still really helped.
Then you think about all that's in the package. You get discounts on so much! Then you think about the fact that the vacations can be given away. You will probably never have to buy another wedding gift again! I have people who give vacations to their family and friends for Christmas. One gives the in-laws a cruise every year.
Our lives look nothing like they did almost 2 1/2 years ago. The longer I am in Coastal, the more money we save, the more vacations we get to take. We went 4 times just this Summer! Before we were lucky to go once every two years. So, I don't think that we are just fulfilling dreams. Our dreams are becoming our reality - and that's pretty cool!
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If you are a frustrated director in Coastal I think all you need to do is read back at the many post in this thread and see the most incredible everyday people making it happen using this business.
Quoting: PNL Travel Our lives look nothing like they did almost 2 1/2 years ago. The longer I am in Coastal, the more money we save, the more vacations we get to take. We went 4 times just this Summer! Before we were lucky to go once every two years. So, I don't think that we are just fulfilling dreams. Our dreams are becoming our reality - and that's pretty cool!
That quote has to be one of the most profound statements ive heard in a very long time. Lora my friend that was priceless. I hope that anyone looking at this forum can see that this business changes lives and by changing individual lives ultimately changes the entire world.
To all of you great directors keep up the great work.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2007 15:39 · Edited by: JenaV
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Good Morning or Afternoon depending where you are in the Time Zone!
Calling all frustrated Coastal distributors. I've posted that with the group I work with we Adopt Coastal HBB owners.
Let me give more details on this. I will be happy to work with and train abandoned Coastal associates without you having to re-invest. All you will need to do is pick up where you left off...
This could mean a couple of different things, depending on your situation.
Like start training again, or setting up your marketing system and plugging into the Team support and development calls again.
I hope this helps,
Jena
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