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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 17:50
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What is or does their mortgage deal cost?
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 19:18
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Wow alot has been going on in the past weeks. In the post I see the frustration of alot of you and some of the anger definitely comes out. I would like to say that the learning experience I had using the products of the CSG taught me a great lesson. I did make alot of money using those products and serving on the leadership helped me in more ways than I could ever list here. But as I have learned the lessons they taught me about business especial the simple buy wholesale sell retail ive begun to use that in all my life. I look for deals everywhere now lol. So it only makes sense I find the best system for my needs at the best price. Its a business decision nothing else. So lets all remember to keep our thoughts business and compare the pro's and con's and not the groups. I love the time I had in the forefront of the CSG. It was a great time but now I have grown and am ready to spread my wings.
Adam
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 20:02 � Edited by: goldmills
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Not that anyone does not know this, but to just come out and say it like this...
The most successful online Coastal people DON'T USE replicated websites as their FIRST IMPRESSION.
Jay doesn't
Dean Doesn't
Britt Doesn't
I don't
Adam Doesn't
Matt Willis doesn't
Maria Doesn't
Which means.... replicated site are good for people who cannot make their own, but in my opinion DIFFERENTIATION is the key, style, personality, grace, integrity, customization or whatever word you want to throw in there... is what makes you noticed and stands you out above all the same people standing in the forest behind green trees that all look the same, and stand the same.
All these people make over $10,000 a month on their businesses.
As I said, again, I am not saying replicated, duplicatable system sites like CSG, WCYS, CWB or DFI are bad, but in the end, we want to tell people they are "DUPLICATABLE" and they are duplicatable in regards to how the computer makes them, but cannot inject customizations, which is where people need to spend their time if they want to win the online game.
Remember, if every team/group had a "TRUE" replicated duplicatable system, we would all be millionaires.
We all get Milk from the Same Cow - Just churn your own butter.
CSG is a tool, and their owners keep it as a tool, but in the last year, as I have seen them grow and mutate, it's also about profits, and there is nothing wrong with the CSG leaders turning profits out of everything they do.
They are making a mint, good for them, but it is expensive and not everyone can sustain it.
Which is why competition flurrishes within Coastal for the"perfect deal" that is the right price and offers the most "whatever" you want to say so people go ape about it.
I sell a mortgage Accelerator program cause I think they are genius and ya, most people if they make $10,000 of surplus cash over an above their current income could use that and put it towards their mortgage but that is not the whole picture. And in the end that would not be wise and prudent financial investing.
But that is for a new forum to talk about.
I hope the people we all come in contact with through this business, get more from us than we take from them. I hope we build instead of tear down.
I hope everyone who reads these threads on this forum, no matter what... does not quit and keeps working smart in all they do, so they can reach their dreams.
YOU CAN DO IT! THERE IS A WAY TO FIND SUCCESS JUST LIKE WE ALL HAVE. FIND IT.
Jeff
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 23:15
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Jeff
GREAT POST!!
I agree, if we want stand out in the forest
we must be a different kind of tree
I am now in the middle of building my own web site not only for this reason, but as I build my team, I want to have the knowledge to show my team how to stand out!
Here's to everyone's success,
Cindy
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# Posted: 10 Jun 2007 00:14
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now you are catching on..... 
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# Posted: 10 Jun 2007 06:56
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I went with a group at one point because they had what I needed all in one place but felt I was way to confined.
When I decided to quit they still charged me for a full month even tho I told them before the first of the month which did not make me a happy camper! IF you decide to go with one of the groups mentioned make certain that you read the fine print.
Fortunately with Coasta YOU are THE business owner, YOU have the freedom to do as you see fit as to marketing, advertising, where you buy your leads etc.
Do you know that some businesses take total control over what you say or do on any other website you may put up. In some businesses, like one famous candle co. the company does NOT allow YOU to mention their name, nor place pictures of the actual products, nor sell their products from your own website everything MUST go thru your company replicated website. PLUS they make you buy their products per month to keep your site. Do you really have a biz or are you an affiliate?
Some or most of the Coastal groups and the members who frequent this forum tell you that they have THE System you can't live without, that they made kazillions using their systems and replicated sites, and without THEIR groups system you can't be successful.............. BULL!!!
While I will agree that one needs TOOLS to grow and build and a system, but, you dont have to be a lemming and look like a lemming to have success in this or ANY business.
I have and grew TWO very successful businesses, one solely done on the internet, I have made a 6 figure income with each of those businesses! So when i came into Coastal I thought this will be a no brainer, a piece of cake....well.....NOT necessarily regardless of what everyone here says selling a vacation pkg is not the slogans that people say on this forum necessarily so dont get frustrated if you try and try and wonder what they are doing you aren't!!
After having two very successful businesses and hearing folks say something like ....I made thousands my first month or 6 weeks etc etc, I would love to say to them...PROVE IT!!! AND than show us the step by step how you did it.
Wouldn't you like just once if someone said I too struggled with selling this or that but I persevered and stuck with it and than earned a fairly decent income but it took time..???
I didn't earn 6 figure income right away in my other businesses but I researched and tried this and that and finally it WORKED!
With Coastal the potential is there, the fine folks like Maria, Jeff and Jay have phenominal ideas they are willing to share with all of us and I listen to them and implement their ideas. Will I be as successful as they are I hope so....will my team be as successful as they are...I will strive for that!
Bottom line...you don't need any group replicated sites just like they said , exceptions are the call centers, they close sales for you and give you the TOOLS you need to go out on your own with your own website to be a success. There are several closing call centers and I am going to try more than one myself because with two other thriving businesses I need the help closeing centers offer.
I will be implementing many ideas I have learned about selling Coastal very soon as I am placing my other business on auto pilot and will solely work at building a team with Coastal. Based on my experience once you have Coastal on auto pilot than you can have MULTIPLE STREAMS OF INCOME!!!
There are a lot of business models out there, find one and stick with it but watch whether or not what you are hearing is just plain hype or is it for real??
Terri
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# Posted: 10 Jun 2007 16:35
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This is going great. This is why I started "The Inside Scoop on the CSG". To make everyone think. For 2 years I was part of one system and only focused on that system. While I did great with it many others have had issues. I do see that being part of a group does have alot of advantages. You dont have to make up anything for yourself if you dont have the skills to do so. You get a website and a system to follow. Now systems are great but many of us outgrow that system. I loved my time in the CSG but came to realize they could offer me nothing else in terms of growth. If you stop growing its like you have stopped living. I was always familiar with many of the names I see in this forum. I would goggle everything about Coastal. My goodness I thought Jay Napier owned Coastal for a minute. I saw there was a big world outside of the CSG. But obligations keep me focused on learning in the team frame of the CSG. For many this is all they need. You might see the post from people that swear up and down over one system. Id say this I am an entrepreneur. I look for opportunities. Thats what we do. I look for the best deal its like buying wholesale and selling retail we all do that with Coastal. Everything has a season. The CSG served its purpose on giving me the training I needed to come on forums like this as an expert. Now do I have my own website. Yes I do. Im in the midst of learning how to make landing pages. Ive learned a bit of html as well. I have been messing with various other advertising options. You see I have grown to the point that being pinholed in a group is too small of a place for us. Thats why im giving the inside scoop and why im here to learn what other options are out there for me and my team.
Adam
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# Posted: 10 Jun 2007 18:14
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How do you like the Funtime Leads for Coastal?
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# Posted: 10 Jun 2007 20:42
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Quoting: goldmills I hope the people we all come in contact with through this business, get more from us than we take from them. I hope we build instead of tear down.
Jeff you've made some great points. My primary goal is to assist as many people as possible in getting to profit in their business and I know that's one of yours as well. From the "Official" side of things they keep things very basic. This CAN be an advantage as on the other side of things csg has gotten confusing. I'd personally like to see more success stories, and let's face it this business is changing daily....and a colaboration works alot better than a fist fight.
Where is Coastal going?? Few really know. It seems that a reactive measure is in place insteat of a proactive. Why are there 2 Las Vegas training events all in the same week?
If your looking to join Coastal I MUST tell you that one size DOES NOT fit all. I've learned from EVERY group with Coastal. I've attended alot of Coastal events and I've bought alot of Coastal training material.
IN the end, you've got to realize you are an independent business owner and YOU....are the only one responsible for your success. Your director will assist you to the best of their ability.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 00:27
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Adam,
I too still have my CSG site and Global theater to support my team.
But I now have the wecloseyoursales site - the site is great, the movie is top notch, the lead capture pages are really nice and the back office is filled with tons of training and contact management, as well as it has the ability to track all they calls, with comments and follow ups that the professionals make for you.
Carole
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 06:40
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Quoting: cgardner1 But I now have the wecloseyoursales site - the site is great
Hi Carole
Did WCYS design your website :
(CoastalVacationsTravelBusiness)?
If not than who did design it?
Terri
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 07:26
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Hi Terri,
Hi Terri,
My WCYS site is different (it's called BestCoastalCallCenter)
The site I have listed here was designed by
AlpsSoftware - they are very affordable - it's a new site
I'd love to have your feedback - what do you think of it?
If you would like to contact them - look up their site on the web
and send an email to Naveen Gorky (he's in India)
and mention me- Carole Gardner - so he'll know
how you found him - He also does the SEO
Have a great day!
Carole
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 07:48
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Carole....It's a very good site. Good job!
Thanks for the info.
Terri
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 07:54
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Quoting: cgardner1 I too still have my CSG site and Global theater to support my team. But I now have the wecloseyoursales site
Shh.....Carole, don't let the CSG know as they do not want people from the call center to use their system.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 09:00
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Hi Jay,
Thanks for the response - I understand. I love the CSG - they are wonderful - the leaders are great - but like Adam - I wanted to go to new levels.
I have both systems -at this point - but I do not mix them - I don't cofuse my Call center prospects with anything regarding the CSG and I don't direct them there - I'm just keeping the CSG site going to support my team that's established. I care deeply about helping my team members.
Have an Awesome and Blessed day,
Carole
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 09:20
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CAROLE
Do you and your son race cars? Professionally?
Who's your sponsors?
My son is an avid fan, he is going to Indianapolis for the race next weekend. He said there will be international drivers.
Terri
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 09:35
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Hi Terri,
We are big race fans. My Son is a HUGE Fan - he almost made it on the Speed Roadtour Challenge show that was just out for the first 13 NASCAR races- have you heard of it? He got to the finals. I drove that car at Lowe's Motor Speedway in Charlotte at the Richard Petty Driving Experience - it was the most FUN thing I've ever done in my life!
You and your son would Love it - There's several race schools where you can drive real race cars on real tracks. I wish I could do it every day.
Carole
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 17:08
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Time to be a free agent. I ended my tenure with the CSG Leadership a few months back and in the next month I am closing my CSG MAC system. For me its time to go back to basics. While I will continue to make my own websites to create my own niche in the marketing arena I will also be going back to basics. I believe having the "official " Coastal site is a must for us all. Why do I say that. Well with it you get the info from the proverbial horses mouth. No watered down solutions and answers as I have seen happen in the past. Coastal makes the package so im aligning myself with them. I will not be using someone elses shipping center but rather the official BOD shipping center at NB Management. Now thats not to say you cant buy in bulk and send out your own marketing as many groups do but id rather give them the whole story instead of my spin on things. In the past years I have skipped the BOD events but never again. I want to be where the action is and in my opinion the day of the CSG is done. I have been on the inside for 2 years now and to be honest I dont like the direction they are going as an organization. Now that is not to bad mouth them by any means. I did very well with them. Its just time for a change and after their fiasco in Florida when many CSG members walked out on a speaker at the BOD event (im glad I wasnt there) I truly want to keep my distance. I wish the CSG all the best and I will miss a bunch of my friends but im glad many have followed me in my new ventures. In my opinion the CSG is on the way out. Hey have you guys seen the new CEM movie lead ad campaign where Nitsa Nakos comes on the advertisement. I for one am not a fan of it. For all of you new members out there think about how easy it is for when they see the lead advertisment and then see Nitsa that they will google Nitsa and Coastal and find her contact info. I know if I was researching Coastal I would. Sounds like a good way to steer customers directly to you. HMMM I wonder if I could get in with CEM and do that? Sounds like a plan. Well thats my first "Inside Scoop on the CSG" today. I know you guys are looking for more juicy stuff but legal documents keep me from saying all I know so I keep it civil in here. See you all soon.
Adam
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 18:06
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Quoting: cgardner1 Roadtour Challenge show that was just out for the first 13 NASCAR races- have you heard of it?
Yea...I'm a big Nascar fan and did watch a few shows. Where do you think Dale Jr. Will go? I think he'll simply put together his own partnership.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 18:10 � Edited by: jnapier
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Quoting: ateamfuntimer No watered down solutions and answers as I have seen happen in the past. Coastal makes the package so im aligning myself with them. I will not be using someone elses shipping center but rather the official BOD shipping center at NB Management.
I was really disappointed to find that the CSG didn't do an update after the March event. I was spending the week in California and was not available to attend this event. I was also disappointed that the BOD asked Jeff not to do a podcast. Again...Politics.
I run a shipping center for my team to guarantee them the best service possible when they sell a membership. Should the CSG ever do a shipping center my concern would be that they would be pulling good information from the membership.
On one hand the BOD wants everything to be inhouse, YET...now there's a FunTime partnership....hmmm
Well, we'll all have a better idea tomorrow.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 23:21
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Carole,
I really like your website. I just joined with WCYS and wanted to design something that would give the prospect more information and not just the page to fill out info on so you have given me some great ideas. I might be calling Naveen too because I need to make my first two sales soon to be released!
One thing though -you have a spelling error around your piture (If I remember it is the word business -you might want to fix it)
Judy
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 18:01
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Well as the CV seminar is a day away and we await all the great announcements we must anticipate the upcoming CSG event. Many are scheduled to attend and there should be fireworks. Alot has been mentioned in the last days about a new exciting mortgage program. I cant wait to see what it has to offer. Im also curious how members are going to learn to market another product so different than the travel package. Only time will tell if this is a good idea or something that maybe should have been done separately. As an entrepreneur im always looking for new business ventures. The trick is juggling where to focus and how to separate them so they never affect each other negatively. Only time will tell on this one. As things stand I wont be at the CSG event but you never know I might just pop in to say hi. I will be greatly represented as many of my friends and associates will be there. With the pot stirring and so much speculation going around I cant wait to hear how the event goes. This is the first big event to go on since I have left the CSG Leadership so I wish them the best.
I would love to hear any ideas you guys have about the direction of the CSG and how it impacts on the rest of us here in Coastal Vacations. Lets see what everyone thinks.
Adam
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 18:36 � Edited by: jnapier
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Quoting: ateamfuntimer I cant wait to see what it has to offer. Im also curious how members are going to learn to market another product so different than the travel package.
You already know that a mortgage is no where near as motivating as a vacation. Second...We're talking about peoples $$ and their Home. Which equals ALOT of caution. At $3500, it's going to be a real easy sale 
With the pot stirring and so much speculation going around I cant wait to hear how the event goes. This is the first big event to go on since I have left the CSG Leadership so I wish them the best.
I would love to hear any ideas you guys have about the direction of the CSG and how it impacts on the rest of us here in Coastal Vacations. Lets see what everyone thinks.
Personally, I see this as yet another nail in the coffin. When you confuse people with alot of training and then add products and you HYPE, HYPE, HYPE....You're gonna begin to confuse your market place. I've taken 3 calls today from team members who wanted to know what all the BS is about. LOL...it's been said before - No knock off Group of Coastal Directors have ever lasted and now I know why.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:05
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Where is the CSG going? What is their direction? Where do they fit into Coastal Vacations? As now the CSG has begun to market their own "travel packages" with the new retail product how does this impact the home based arena? These are very serious questions. Many of us joined Coastal to market an amazing travel package. The package through Coastal hasnt changed much since its start other than to get better. But through it all it has been about a travel package. Now the CSG has started alot of training, selling training materials and other programs. Training is important but in my opinion I am tired of being nickel and dimed for more and more training. As team members struggle to just pay their marketing expenses ($150 for a website and upwards of $400 a month on leads) I for one cant see how paying now for your own Global Theater or the marketing material of their "Lifestyle Coaches" helps.
I will give you a scenario that is very true. I in addtion to marketing my business offer coaching to home based business owners. Im qualified as I have been in the home based arena for 20 years now and do it full time. In addition I have been working various jobs before I became full time in the home based business arena ( I was the sales manager of various large corporations as well as being in law enforcement for 5 years). This gives me a well rounded work experience. Well a client of mine has been coached by a few of the "Lifestyle Coaches" and let me know that my training gave them more real practical training then they got from all of the other coaches. The other coaches only taught them theory. The goal in teaching theory is so the people must come back for more training. Thats to line their pockets. My clients get 8 sessions in a months time and everyone has seen their business and lifestyle soar afterwards. I call it one and done. When they have that success they always refer other clients and now I have a waiting list. Thats what training is for to get people to the next level. When those of you that graduated college went to get a job you were trained in your field. Yes you might have to get additional training as the industry you are in changed of course but you were able to compete as you had what you needed. Thats not what the CSG is doing. They want you back more and more to line their pockets. It's unfortunate but its the way things are.
I think the CSG has missed the boat. Their philosophies are great but they dont practice what they preach. All of us need each of us should really be we need you to line our pockets and if you dont make it its because you need more training.
Stay tuned to this thread and other post I will be writing as I believe the CSG has signed their own death warrant. I wouldnt be surprised if the Co-Founders have gotten enough of our money to start their next venture. Stay tuned as I will be giving updates in the coming week.
Adam
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:44
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Adam I think you answered your own question.
Think of this, CSG owners did a brilliant marketing strategy,
they first got Coastal members to sign up under the guise of training to sell Coastal, once they had your name and your team member names they than branched out on their own with yet another "vacation package" to who are they advertising this new "package" to? To Coastal Directors who already are interested in selling travel. Get it?
Does this make it right? NO! But sneaky brilliant just the same.
And that's what Al was referring to when he said that some groups want your's and your team members names to market to.
But again give Coastal business people some credit, they will either fall for the ploy and buy in or not. They aren't forced to buy into another opp.
Each person should evaluate what direction they want their business to take.
Terri
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:53
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"Lifestyle Coaches" are another name for marketing guru's in some cases.
Be careful of who you entrust your business with.
There are some "lifestyle coaches" who's best interest is not YOU but lining their pockets.
And that doesn't refer to just CSG!
Why CSG is being singled out to badmouth I have no idea, there are other peole and groups who are just as bad, so what's the motivation to single out just one?
Just ASKING.
I am NOT defending CSG at all so don't get me wrong just questioning some people's motives! (you should to)
Terri
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2007 00:27
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Hey Terri,
Which "lifestyle coaches" do you recommend? Are you talking about people in Coastal or other "gurus." Thanks in advance!!
Oh, and, did you use one of the vouchers for your stay at the Palm? Please im and let me know which one if you did. Thanks!!!
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2007 09:43
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Nicole, my Daughter is one of the best " lifestyle "coaches, but for marketing advice I would use a marketing coach, a coach who isn't there to just offer things to buy or to have you sign with them but will recommend tools and systems to help you to succeed.
A good coach is there to motivate and support along with selling tools and systems. For example Dani Johnson offers sales aids and she recommends how to use those sales aids. Her coaching on Faith was one of the best I ever heard.
There is a marketing coach who is a "certified" coach, what does that mean? That she will sell you a bunch of stuff
She happened to be with another business not CV so I will not mention her name, but one has to ask where does the coaching come in if they are selling websites, autoresponders, etc.
Bottom line is to make certain that when they say they are a coach get a detailed list of what they mean by coaching.
I didn't use a Coastal voucher this time for our trip to Vegas, I utilized Joystar as I am a Travel agent with Joystar. And boy did it come in handy being a TA this time in Vegas, we were standing in line with about several hundred other people waiting to check in for our return flight, it was on the redeye flight leaving at midnight and arriving at 4am in TX, we were talking to a porter and I mentioned being a TA as we were just chatting with him, he said wait here a minute, he came back and sent us up to a agent at the desk who informs us that our flight has been cancelled because of a Pilot strike, BUT she will pay for our hotel room in Vegas and she will upgrade us to first class seats on a 4pm flight the following day.
We took her up on the offer and than unfortunately our flight was reinstated so we left on the midnight flight.
Terri
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2007 10:44
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Thanks Terri! I have been listening to some of Dani Johnson's recorded calls and was thinking of purchasing some of her tools. It is hard to find any of these "coaches" that are not trying to sell you something after something after something that you "must" have to be successful.
So you became a TA with the CV card? Do you have to pay a monthly fee? Just curious. Contemplating signing up for that myself!
Thanks again!
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2007 11:22
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I am a HUGE Dani fan...but make no mistake, she makes a significant amount of money selling her products (including leads).
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