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Bobbie
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 00:53
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HI,
I AM new to my home based business. I just joined Coastal at Lvele 1 and my director is in The CSG. I actually like their system but I heard that the CSG is not part of Coastal Vacations anymore. I am confused, my director has been away for so many weeks but other people told me the csg is left coastal. Are they the same thing? I thought the CSG is coastals system? That is where I ordered my package from. HELP would be appreciated!
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 11:10 � Edited by: jnapier
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Hi Bobbie,
Welcome to the forum. I'm sorry to inform you that Coastal and the CSG are not the same thing. CSG was a group of people within Coastal who got together to form the CSG.
The rumors you've been hearing are correct. While I can't give you all the information as it's confidential and as I see it.... A rumor is still a rumor UNTIL you hear it from the CSG. I've not seen anything from them yet, but I understand that it will be Official as of January 1.
The CSG has lost ALOT of their leaders with their actions. Leaving Coastal will confuse MANY within their system is I think it's sad that they will be leaving alot of folks with a bad decision. I believe that they are expecting you and others to follow their lead into another travel program and into a LARGER investment...but as I see it.....I don't see many doing that at $1500, $6000, and $15,000 price range and I understand that the memberships they'll be selling do not offer the same amount of value.
There are some GREAT folks here to help you with your business and the Board of Directors and Leadership Council are here to help you.
Join us Monday at Noon EST 620.294.3000 access code is 1103# or Monday-Thursday 9PM EST for our training calls.
Jay NaPier
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Coastal Vacations
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 12:06
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Hi Bobbie,
While I don't know much about CSG in general (and Jay may be right that they are forming a new system) I CAN assure you that if you bought a Coastal package YOU are a member of Coastal for life.
Even if CSG breaks away, you can still receive training from the official Coastal system about the packages and the opportunity so there is no need to worry about that. And aside from the official system there are several other groups that you can join for a monthly fee that will provide group training, etc.
I suggest that you share your concerns with your director and also recommend - if you are asked to reinvest in a new product - that you remind your upline that you joined COASTAL and expect to receive appropriate support to insure your success with it!
Tonya Kopp
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Coastal Vacations
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 22:55
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CSG, COA, WCYS, CWB, etc. etc.
Is there really all that much difference? My understanding is that the product being delivered is exactly the same for all.
So all this time speaking about different groups seems almost mute to me. I think it all boils down as to which group gets the income stream from the websites they host/provide.
Am I missing something? How you make sales is entirely up to the independent CV director. No "group" has any power or influence over any CV member as I see it.
As a CV member you are in business for yourself - period. If you want to take advantgage of some of these "groups" then go for it. You are the boss. You decide your future. You decide who you write checks to.
Much ado about nothing here on this subject in my opinion.
Any group is as good as the next - it just takes going to work. I am sure I'll get hammered by different groups for this - but the reality is that all are selling the exact same product - but some think they have a better way of distribution.
It all comes down to something simple - You!!!
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 23:07
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Bob,
you always have a great way to cut through all of the hype. And sometimes you make me laugh so hard I get spit on my monitor. (Eewwww!) You are absolutely correct. There are many groups or teams and each person can decide to join that team or even switch to another team. Each person has to decide to be successful for themselves and if that means going somewhere else to get trained then that's what they need to do.
Maybe Jani, who is a current member of CSG can come in and confirm or dispell any rumors about the CSG leaving Coastal and what that means to current CSG members.
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westfam11
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:06 � Edited by: westfam11
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Bob,
It is true that you are still a member of coastal no matter what group you joined but if your director is in one group and you find out that the group is not going to work out for you it will be hard to do until you are a released director. You have to work closely with the person who brought you in which normally means using their group website, etc. to get your pass up sales and be released. So it is not as easy as it sounds, just join Coastal and it doesn't matter what group you are in, because it really does until you are released. No other group is just going to pick you up without making you pay all over again, if not buying the package, to have them be your director, they all want more money.
Becky
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:16
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Hi Becky!
There are groups that will let you start using their system like DFI and several others because really all you are doing is using their website. The call center is different simply because you are using the call center itself and that is a whole other fee. Some directors with other groups even charge a set fee to allow the orphaned member to just work with them. It depends on who you work with. Again, no matter what stage you are in, whether it is looking for a director for the first time or the second, do your research and make sure they are a fit for you.
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 19:46
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Ive been on the fence as to whether I should chime in about whether the CSG is a good team. But being the guy I am I knew I had to chime in.
I think too much emphasis is put onto what team are you involved with. Each team has its pro's and con's. Having served on the CSG Leadership has allowed me to interact with leaders in all of the organizations. I can say that many of those leaders are my personal friends. Ive seen the same level of leadership ability in all the groups. The bottomline is that we are all in Coastal. WE ALL market the same thing. We all have websites as well as live calls.
Ive met directors in every group that are good and some that in my opinion need to brush up on their skills. It really comes down to you and what you are willing to do.
Do you know how to direct a propsect to the proper info?
Do you have an explanation of what your business is about?
Do you have an marketing plan to generate leads?
Do you treat your business as a business or a hobby?
Are you willing to evaluate your progress and change accordingly?
The team is great and helps us all learn at a quicker pace ( more heads means more ideas) but this is a business and business is about moving product to the people that want it. If you master that you will be successful.
Adam Frederick
Founder of A-Team CV Apprentice Program
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 20:38
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Quoting: westfam11 and you find out that the group is not going to work out for you
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Becky - If you do not like the way you are being told to market CV - and you see another way to do it that works in your mind - then by all means do that. Believe me, your director will not care how you get your training sales.
As far as websites - if you do not like your "team sites" then use the CV official sites.
It is all the same product - websites and logo's do not make people successful.
Ever heard of "You Inc"? Simply put, YOU are the person in charge. YOU make or break what happens with you. Now take the reins and be the CEO of "You Inc". You own all the stock, you are the board of directors, you are the sales manager.
Have a meeting with all your top people in "You Inc" and decide how you are going to go forward. Nothing else matters. It is 100% totally up to you!
You cannot blame your failure or your success on anyone but you.
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 21:36
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Becky, corporations consult with people all the time to find answers. Do that!! Use this forum to have it inform your board of directors on your questions!!!
You seem to wanting your "group" to do things for you. NOT!!!
Kiddo - your group, team, or whatever name you want to place on any outside help is not going to help you.
The sooner you understand that only you can make "You Inc" make money is you.
Sorry to be so blunt - but sugar coating is not helping you at all.
If you want to contact me off board - feel free. I am even more direct in person.
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2007 21:42
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wow!!!
I've been watching this dialog and it tells me that I don't want anything to do with this outfit.
I want to make a positve difference in the world.
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2007 23:28
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Quoting: mikepressnell wow!!! I've been watching this dialog and it tells me that I don't want anything to do with this outfit. I want to make a positve difference in the world.
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Mike - what in the world are you speaking of? hehehe if you want to save seals - or whales - or a rain forest - CV can't help.
If you want to help people send their kids to Harvard - then CV might be able to help you do that.
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 18:40
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Hi Guys!
I'm sorry, i have been VERY busy for the past while, releasing directors and getting ready for Christmas!
I have respect and admiration for Coastal, and truly LOVE the synergy group. Coastal IS a lifetime membership, and that is a fact!
Actually, Bobbie or anyone else wanting help with Coastal Vacations.. the CSG is hosting for the FIRST TIME ever in history tonight a special university online training, specifically about building success IN your coastal business, and being able to quit your J.O.B in 2 months or less!
It will be at 9:45pm EST tonight. You will need high speed internet.
This is OPEN to the PUBLIC, simply visit www dot csgtestroom dot com before the show starts to get your computer configured.. it is quite simple, just turn off your pop up blockers and fire wall for the software to work.
Then at 9:45pm EST you can visit www dot globalsuccesstheater dot com
Its all about helping others get a jump start in 2008, so feel free to enjoy the show and learn something!
Cheers
Jani
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 19:03
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Glad to have you back Jani. Happy holidays. Thanks for the info on the new CSG stuff. I as well as a few others in the forum had a question about the new direction of the CSG we have been hearing about. I had a successful leader that from one of the CSG Lifestyle coaches team call me recently and ask about the official BOD sites as they were a bit concerned about some new people they had just started and that the CSG was moving in some other direction. What direction im not sure of so can you or anyone else in the CSG shed some light on the matter. The question has come up in the forum so I imagine its being talked about. Thanks in advance for your help.
Adam Frederick
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Coastal Level III Director
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 21:08
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I find it kinda odd that there's an invitation to a webinar here, YET.... Jani has chosen NOT to answer the questions asked??? Could this be a sign that the rumors are correct???
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 07:56
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Quoting: jnapier .....I don't see many doing that at $1500, $6000, and $15,000 price range and I understand that the memberships they'll be selling do not offer the same amount of value
Jay.. you really should not speak about anything without having accurate information and all of the details.
My understanding is that the CSG has big plans for 2008, that is so much better for everyone involved, past and present- that includes Directors and MAC subscribers- at NO cost to them, and in fact much reduced pricing for our MAC system that will be upgraded 3 versions. I am looking forward to seeing solutions to MANY of the topics that have been repeatedly discussed here with Coastal, and bringing back accountability, integrity and customer service to keep our industry professional and something we can all be proud to stand behind and represent, not to mention air all concerns openly and have problems SOLVED and not ignored or swept under the rug.
I do have respect for Coastal and all that it has given me, but I do know that we are expecting HUGE changes in January with the CSG. I can't discuss it beyond that- but my goal has always been to help others, and I for one would never stand behind something I did not think was less then ethical. My background, afterall- is ethics. I do plan on making one final post here to announce the new changes, when it is appropriate- and I do fully expect to be attacked as is historical on this board. I do think people would be very wise to keep a pace on the CSG, because I do expect 2008 to absolutely change this industry from the inside out- and I expect smart business people with clear conscience will want to be invovled after doing their homework and research.
I am right now working on re-vamping my website completely- I will be posting it with as much accurate information as I can cram into it on January 1st! As always, I will gladly support and answer anyones questions from anywhere in the Coastal family, so do feel free to review it after the first and be in touch if you have any questions. I am still very proud to be with the CSG- we are continuing to lead the field! I can't tell you all how EXCITED I am to see the New Year coming and benefitting everyone!
Cheers
Jani
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 09:33 � Edited by: jnapier
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Thanks Jani for coming back and sharing. I DO wish you the best with the new project and the revamp of your website. I know you'll have years of success with your new business.
Jay NaPier
P.S. - In January of this year I began work on a new montra "I REFUSE to be a part of the PROBLEM, I will ONLY be a part of the SOLUTION". This is why I'm now working with the Leadership Council and why 2008 will be the Best Year Yet for Coastal Vacations
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 21:42
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One of the challenges with rumors is that they are JUST THAT...Rumors!
Don't hold me to this, but I've heard that an official announcement form the CSG will be given on the 15th or the 21st?? And they are either going with GRN or they are private branding the GRN program???
Anyway, until it's official...it's just speculation.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 10:18
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Quoting: westfam11 No other group is just going to pick you up without making you pay all over again, if not buying the package, to have them be your director, they all want more money.
Hi Becky!
I actually have not had that experience myself, I have helped many others that were abandoned by their director, not getting support or worse, plain out lied to by their Director for NO CHARGE.
Of course, I don't advocate director hoping- but if people really have tried to work things out- I will help them.
No Jay- I am sorry to say that you are mis-informed. There will be a public announcement with the CSG towards the end of the year, but GRN is NOT involved in any way, shape or form.
What I am recommending HIGHLY right now, is anyone interested in a revolution in this industry get invovled with the CSG NOW- even past members will be supported and invited into this revolution, and it will NOT cost them ANYTHING. They have dropped the system activation fee and members will be informed before the public. What is happening is SO positive, and so very much better for everyone, on EVERY level- and I don't see that people can loose at all- as far as I am concerned, options are ALWAYS better, especially when I see what is coming is SO much better and does address so many of the issues that are brought up on this board repeatedly. I do know what is going on, and I am so excited for everybody!
Change is in the air, anyone who loves travel and is an entrepreneur is going to WANT to be involved in this, I never thought I would see something that is BETTER then GREAT like this!
Have a Happy Holiday everyone!
Jani
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 10:39
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I think we should stop hyping something that hasnt happened yet. As those in the know have to keep quiet ( thats a common business practice that I dont see anything wrong with) we should all wait and see. I would tell anyone looking to not join something until you have the facts. This is no a dig against any one group but a sound business practice. As the saying goes a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Im an entrepreneur and understand that companies and organizations must pre advertise their goods. It's done all the time. Ive been involved with two travel opportunities that have done exactly that. Build for the big event is the motto. Well unless some facts or direction is given how can you make a true decision. It would be a decison based on emotions. For business thats the worst types of decisions to make.
Im not saying the announcement wont be big im just saying if you cant even give me some idea as to what its about other than its going to revolutionize the market a good option is to wait. Heck even when you are going to buy stock or make investments they have a prospectus. It explains the goals of the stock or investment and what is projected.
I wish the CSG the best in this new endeavor. As I stated before im always looking for ways to create new opportunities. Ive even invented a program to get new prospects started in Coastal for free. Ive done that because im an innovator. So again I commend them. But ill take a wait and see attitude. As a leader who is looked upon to lead I cant and wont lead a group down an uncharted road. I tried it with one opt and found out later that the road was rockier than hyped up to be. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:10
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Adam brings up some great points and I thought I'd add to it.
Many of you have ready the reasons why some of us left the CSG, one thing to note is while there's a change coming the people who are going to be leading are the same people. That's doesn't mean that they can't turn over a new leaf, just know that when the leaf is turned over it could be poison ivy.
Coastal has a 14 year track record and there's alot of great things coming. You can read about that on other threads here.
Either way, I wish the csg the best in their new business. I know they've had quite a few leaders who've left over the last 12 months and the number has grown exponentially over the last 60 days.
We might not know what's in the cave, but the fact that so many are leaving the cave might be a sign.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:34
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EXCEPT Adam... I am not trying to actually "hype" anything, I just know that what exists now will not be available in the New Year so if anyone is serious about starting a business with the CSG, now is a very good time and it simply will NOT get any better then now. You will see why I am saying that in the New Year. Really, all I am trying to do is help people, it won't do me any good as far as my own bottom line is concerned. I lead from my heart- but I am very much an analyst and am not swayed by hype... facts are what matter to me, and I would never consider for a moment making any hasty decisions because the team that I lead are people I sincerely care about and help on a daily basis. SUPPORT is what I have always represented and been proud of- and I am more then happy to tell you at this junction- that because of my commitment to helping and supporting others, I have remarkably high success and thus, loyalty within my team. I would not risk that trust on a hasty decision that was not very well researched and thought out and VERY GOOD for my team members. They are getting a deal here that is beyond my wildest dreams and absolutely over-delivers on my expectations.
I know you are previously with the CSG as are many others here, so you don't need to do ANYTHING right now and are in a very good position to wait, and yes- should you wish to be informed in order to make an educated decision, you need merely stay tuned! The CSG has truly gone above and beyond in SUPPORTING all its members, past, present and future and I am not only excited but very proud of this organization. As promised, I will make full details available to people, provided that I am welcome here to do so- when the information is public, I am happy to inform sans "hype". I have NEVER encouraged making emotional decisions and the concept of the "pain funnel" was always distasteful to me (though I know it has worked well for others, and I can't argue with its efficacy- it is simply not my style- providing information is), but at the same time I never want to be accused of not looking out for everyone's best interests.
I appreciate that you have learned lessons from your enthusiasm- you will remember speaking to me about the funtime "opportunity" and remember the very pointed questions I asked? That should tell you about exactly the quality and quantity of information I require to make ANY kind of decision.. business or otherwise- and also tell you that I am very much like you having a sit and wait instinct- most people want to stay in their comfort zone. I fully believe it is important when looking at ANY business opportunity to look for the "hole in the boat", and ensure that its strengths out weigh its weaknesses and thus determine if your comfort zone is WORTH moving out of. I for one would never say there is a "perfect" business out there for everyone in every situation-that would be idiocy. However, I do know that there are areas in Coastal that I know can and should be improved upon, a quick look at some of the threads on this board tell me I am not the only one- and with the New Year- my wishlist will most certainly be granted.
I am a big supporter of Coastal and always will be because of what Coastal has done for me and countless others. I am proud to be a Level III Director and what it has taken to acheive that, and I am sure that our BOD will be making significant changes in the New Year as well and I would be thrilled to see many continued positive changes for many years to come. Its one thing to be GOOD, but another thing altogether to continue to evolve and get better and not become a dinosaur- and it is no secret to anyone knowing the history of the various coastal support systems that the CSG has always lead the feild- everyone including our great BOD has followed, here and there adding unique flavour, services and support for everyone in their respective organization. I do see that as a VERY good thing for everyone involved in this industry, and that changes are an inevitable part of life. When I see a good thing made even better, I will evolve, as far as I am concerned, that is the only choice if you are truly interested in serving others.
Cheers
Jani
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Jani, you brought up the support system of Coastal and I think it's important to focus on somethere there that you might not have realized.
TEAM - Together we Each Achieve More is the basis that Coastal has worked upon for 14+ year.
Coastal has depeneded upon top earners and a volunteer staff to assist in making Coastal better. "Some" have chosen to do their own thing and profit - Now, I'm not focusing this on the CSG - In fact, I'll tell you Point Blank that over the last 90 days there has been a group leader who put herself out there to help, yet - When it was time to do what she said she'd do - No Dice.
There will always be options to make things better and contine to grow, but until there's someone that's willing to DO - it's not going to happen. The CSG at one point was in good standing with Coastal, but due to one or a few peoples egos and desire to profit there became a change.
My believe is that the PAST does not EQUAL the Future. The objective of the board of directors - and those who attend the trainings regularly know that the objective is to bring EVERYONE together and provide the BEST support and training systems.
There IS a price involved in doing this. Someone had to put hours and hours and DOLLARS into the Coastal DVD. We all have that now, but SOMEONE had to volunteer their time and their money to make it happen. When the investment was paid off...the cost of the DVDs have gone way down. There's no copyright, so you can make as many copies as you wish.
In the end, you can be a part of the problem or you can seek out the board of directors, get to know them. Volunteer to help and CHANG the things you'd like to see changed. But sitting on the sideline playing armchair quarterback....lol Well, your either in the game or your not.
Personally, I can tell you it was VERY rude for the CSG to walk out on an official Coastal event like they did in September 2006, but since the board of directors was announcing a new website - that's what they chose to do to keep their members from seeing what the board had put together.
I know some of this is before your time and your simply a rider on the bus, but I'd encourage you to go up front. Take the wheel and realize that the color of the bus is still the same - the only difference is that the name of the school is changing.
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 13:17 � Edited by: ateamfuntimer
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In Coastal it is important and we teach new people to do their due diligence. The case here is no one can do that diligence as the facts arent out. How can I join something before I know what it is? You mentioned something will be changing by the New year. Let me quote.Quoting: matiasmommy I am not trying to actually "hype" anything, I just know that what exists now will not be available in the New Year so if anyone is serious about starting a business with the CSG, now is a very good time and it simply will NOT get any better then now. You will see why I am saying that in the New Year.
As not to assume or jump to conclusions can you explain that.
Without an explanation I stand by my statement of HYPE and having been on the CSG Board of Directors and having the experience of having planned events , trainings and new systems with the same leaders that are making a new opt now I think I can comment here. Again I wish all the CSG the best but to come in and tell new people to join the CSG now without giving facts sounds alot different from the mantra of doing your due diligence.
Im not trying to argue or start anything im just calling things as I see them.
P.S. - I think the CSG is a great organization and has much to offer just as all of the other groups in Coastal do as well. I say this as I was proud to be on their Board of Directors and host calls and contribute and inspire so many as part of them. They will have great success with their new program as the leaders behind it have alot of experience. I just again say to anyone before you join anything get all the facts so there are no questions or hard feelings later.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 16:44
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Hi Jay...
I was not at that event you speak of, but I do know people who were, and the story I have been told is significantly different about people "walking" out. They say that history is all about perspective, but I do know several people who were there, and I also know that the Al has personally told me that the ONLY place to be in Coastal is with the "official" system- so I hardly get the impression that other support systems and groups are fully embraced- even though those same other groups and systems have done much to improve things for everyone accross the board. I have also NEVER been told to not participate in BOD events, and I have also encouraged my team members to attend BOD events. Just yesterday, a fellow called me wondering how on earth he should get in touch with the BOD for questions- I absolutely sent him to the BOD call schedule but gave him my regrets that other then those calls and the ship centre if he had shipping trouble, I could be of no further useful assistance with his problem.
In my personal experience, and opinion, the CSG has provided better info, training and support in running my business- but absolutely I have went to Stephanie Johnsons office for product concerns. I have also seen MASSIVE positive changes as of late in the BOD system with the new websites et al and I do think that is a VERY good thing for all- even though I recognize much of it as being CSG in origin. I'm not against people DOING what works, after all. I fully expect to see more positive changes in the BOD in the New Year, and I really hope so for the sake of everyone. To let you know, I have had several contacts with BOD members and leaders and taken what action that I could to be solution orientated and supportive. I would not advocate anything else to anyone, and most certainly do not consider myself to be an armchair spectator, as in my own way I have done a lot to support this business and the many people in it, volounteering my time on many occasions when I had no incentive to do so.
I know you claim people are leaving the CSG in droves, but I see absolutely NO evidence of that at calls or live events.. in fact, knowing what I do know- I expect to see very much the reverse happening in the New Year. I am expecting people that have been personally unhappy with aspects of this business to be THRILLED to see action has been taken for a positive solution. Knowing what I do know.. and seeing what has been done for us- I am simply stunned.
I will not argue that everyone working together benefits everyone, and have always been a big supporter of that idea as well... I would not be where I am today without the people of Coastal and the CSG, and feel thus an obligation to serve others who cross my path- whether or NOT they are with the CSG. We all start out somewhere in this business, and it is only right to lend a helping hand where one can.
Adam, I am not at liberty to give details at the moment, but I can say that being a present or former member of the CSG come the New Year will be very beneficial to anyone choosing to participate- and of course I would not advocate anything less then fully informed and enthusiastic participation once this new information is released to everyone.
Its only 2 weeks or so away, so lets just stop spreading false rumours and have a very Happy Holiday! The New Year is going to be a very exciting time for everyone in the Coastal family- and historically January is a VERY busy month in Home Based Business EVERYWHERE, and I am certain that with the passion all of us here share, we will continue to prosper and make big differences in the world, one person at a time.
Jani
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 18:16
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Quoting: matiasmommy I have done a lot to support this business and the many people in it, volounteering my time on many occasions when I had no incentive to do so.
Great to hear it Jani and I look forward to meeting you in Orlando at the March 28th and 29th Official Coastal Event.
JN
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 19:08
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....Guess I'll pop in here yet,too...
Were you able to get some help or answers, Bobbie, through all this dialogue??...I must admit, I would be a bit confused if I were new to it all!
I admit I have to agree with 'asebf' on the fact that if you have your L1 package, you are a lifetime member with Coastal..but I also agree with the fact that you will need some sort of training to get your training sales out of the way and to learn the ropes...
I suggest getting on the BOD calls and learning as much as you can on there...plus plugging into the official coastal websites and then get out there and do the work and you just might surprise yourself!
There is some really good training on the official coastal training dot com site for exactly the situation you are in - listen to those recorded calls on there.....
Much success to you as you take charge of your new business!
Viola
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# Posted: 23 Dec 2007 21:03 � Edited by: Alex Reynolds
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I thought you may be interested in an official statement from the CSG Leadership....
On behalf of The CSG Leadership we wish all Coastal Vacations Members the best of success in 2008.
We are excited to ring in the New Year with all our CSG members. Collectively the CSG is the largest, fastest growing and most successful team of Coastal Vacations owners in the 14 year history of Coastal. When the CSG cofounders first attended a Coastal Event in 2003, there were 50 members in the room. Today the CSG alone boasts a membership of over 2500.
With this success rate, we are assuredly doing something right.
In light of the current speculation and rumours, we want to assure all CSG members, that The CSG Leadership and administration are 100% dedicated to the security, profits and longevity of their businesses. We want to be very clear that The CSG has secured a long term vision and plan that will allow CSG Members to operate their businesses at the highest level of integrity and profit. We are confident that in 2008 our members will excel at a level far beyond what they have experienced thus far, protected by solid business standard that has been created with long term sustainability in mind.
As entrepreneurs we are familiar with the importance of being supported by a long term vision and business plan by an organization of principle driven and success focussed individuals, and we will continue to provide our members with ONLY the best quality, service and profit potential in 2008.
CSG Members can look forward to the same high level of service, dedication and now structure that they have come to trust in, and expect from our Leadership.
-CSG Leadership
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# Posted: 26 Dec 2007 09:26 � Edited by: cgardner1
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I agree - we should wait and see what's in store
for the CSG - they have been amazing.
If you don't like what they are doing - don't worry -
It's All Good!
Coastal Vacations is an awesome Business Model.
I do understand things can get a bit confusing
when starting a new business.
As a long time CSG member -
also experienced in the "We Close Your Sales"Call center
with Jeff Mills online Marketing training
the "Coastal Closers" call center,
the "Decide Freedom International" Group,
and Dani Johnson Training
"COA Network - Official Coastal / Board of Directors" tools,
"FunTime Vacations",
Contact Talk Contact Management Software
"Success synergy Solutions,
and -my own website -
I've been very involved for years - Full time
If you want staight up information with no Hype - please feel free to contact me. I know what it's like to feel scammed, hyped and lied to
I love to help people and especially to shorten the "learning curve"
I've helped People who feel abandonded by their director or group for FREE and will continue to help anyone who is willilng to work to achieve their goals.
Coastal is a real business that takes real work
[Link removed - Admin]
Warmest Regards,
Carole
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ateamfuntimer
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# Posted: 26 Dec 2007 12:05
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There is way to much focus on the various groups in Coastal Vacations. Lately the focus has been on the CSG as they roll out their own new travel opportunity. Well congratulations to them but lets get back to the subject at hand. That subject being Coastal Vacations. That where my focus has been and where yours should as well. It doesnt matter what team you are on as all the teams have alot to offer. Focus your energy on getting in front of prospects and sharing this opportunity. If you do that then you will be successful.
The best team to be on is your own team. Ive been a member of the CSG as well as serving on their leadership board. Ive got friends on every team in Coastal and the bottom line is that if you can do a few simple things you can be successful in Coastal no matter what team you are on. I tell this story all the time. My director in Coastal didnt have the experience we had in home based businesses. If I had been on this forum and been picking a director to start with they wouldnt have been our pick. But it didnt stop us from making the money we have made. I thank God that our director found us. By the same token even if you pick a director that makes "x" amount of sales a week that doesnt mean it will be a good fit for you. I know several successful directors that now have large teams that say that picking that director that made "x" sales was the worst decision for them and they would tell everyone to never pick a director just because of the sales that director talked about making.
It comes down to doing the simple things. Coastal sells itself. Get this package in front of a bunch of people and the numbers will happen. Say you are calling people on the phone I have a simple way you should handle it. When you call ask the prospect if they like travel? Then ask if they like timeshares? I bet they first answer they love travel and that they hate timeshares. Then tell them if they could travel for deep discounts ( give them an example) and not do a timeshare would it be worth looking at? Then sweeten the pot by offering them a vacation for looking. The COA gives away a code to give away vacations on their calls so you dont even have to give out your membership number to anyone. After that ask them to tell their friends and you will give them more vacations. Was that simple? You dont need a bunch of phone skills to do that.
Another simple way is to go to Dominoes and offer then to do a customer appreciation day. You offer a Carnival cruise ( if you arent level two get your upline to get one for you) in a promotion for them. You collect the names of all that enter the promo and call all of them and offer them a vacation for looking at your site as a bonus just for entering the contest. Again simple. You dont need a director or fancy coaching or videos to learn this.
Focus your efforts on the simple task of showing people Coastal and this business will work.
Now if you are looking for a director to jump to and you want someone that will teach you the real world scenarios of how to be successful I might be who you are looking for. I do take new people on but its a case by case basis. I dont just open the doors. My time is valuable and you should look at yours as well. Thats thought process is what has made me success.
Now I understand the idea of doing things for free. Its good business to give back. But never sell yourself short. This is a give and take relationship so dont let someone take more than you are willing to give.
Adam Frederick
Coastal Level III Director
Founder of A-Team CV FREE Apprentice Program
302 327 6263
[email protected]
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