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duckbird
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2008 12:29
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When manually submitting to SE's should I just submit only to the majors such as Google, Yahoo, MSN or should I submit to the other tens of thousands of SE's on the planet

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# Posted: 3 Jan 2008 15:41 � Edited by: Newbie Shield
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Hi Duck

I'd hit a few directories if you find the time. I've noticed that nowadays, many SEs use other SEs instead of having their own. I would definately submit for free to Yahoo SE though.



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# Posted: 3 Jan 2008 15:53
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Quoting: Newbie Shield
Thought you were the manual submission expert...don't you have a manual submission blog?


I don't know about all that, I was just wondering if I was wasting my time submitting blogs to less popular SE's

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# Posted: 3 Jan 2008 18:04
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With a blog, I've never had an issue getting it searched pretty quickly. When I first start making sites a few years ago, I would submit a sitemap to google and yahoo. Now, I just write a couple of on-topic articles and the search engines follow those to the sites.

The only real advantage of submitting your site is that you know for certain every page has been spidered. On my non-blog sites, this has never failed to happen pretty much immediately after having an article published. On blogs, of course, you don't want EVERY page spidered because of all the duplicate pages, but if you nofollow the pages you don't want spidered and update and ping a few times, they generally get spidered pretty quickly.

Maybe I'm missing your purpose in wanting to submit your sites, but I think the only time it matters is when you're fighting for organic search position, and you're probably not doing that with a new blog because you don't have the backlinks to compete on relatively popular keywords. Thing is: when you do have backlinks, the spiders follow them to your site. See what I'm saying?

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# Posted: 3 Jan 2008 18:34
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Quoting: MyOwnBoss
Maybe I'm missing your purpose in wanting to submit your sites


I was under the impression, that is what I was suppose to do, submit my sites in the case, blogs to SE's.

What I have started to do is submit the blogs to only the majors i.e Google, Yahoo, MSN and Dmoz. Also I submit to Ping sites like Ping Goat. Also Del.ico.us.

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# Posted: 3 Jan 2008 19:20
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if you have a static site with no backlinks, yes. There's no reason for search engines to spider your sites unless you submit them.

When you ping a blog, all the sites from that your ping service ping now have a record of your blog being updated, so when yahoo spiders technorati, it "sees" your ping and goes to check where the other end of the ping is.

That's all I was saying, the only reason you would need to worry about search engines spidering you would be when you update, and the ping takes care of that.


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