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suresh
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 01:39
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So much hype around these CB products, but are they of any value at all? To me, they all seem to be the same old stuff (about SEO, PPC etc.) in different words, not much else.
Besides, take a look at some of the merchant websites. Most of them look like cheap, $5 websites, hardly the kind of stuff you'd expect from guys claiming to have earned $1000 every day! And if they're indeed making so much money, would they sell their 'secrets' for $30?
Put simply, if you know a way to make $1000/day, would you rather not keep it to yourself, and earn those amounts, day after day? Or, would you be magnanimous enough to share it with the rest of the world? Somehow, I don't believe anyone's gonna be that altruistic, sorry!
Bottom line, I don't believe any of these products have ever helped a newbie. Far from it, these products simply appeal to a newbie's greed, that's all. In other words, revenue is being generated from the false hopes about home business, rather than from home business itself.
I'd like to hear some feedback on this, guess it's important to know and understand these things.
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pcwork
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 09:43
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I agree , many of the products seem to be get rich quick schemes
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SovereignWealth
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 14:21
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The short answer is ..No. All the products on clickbank are not worthless.
I would suggest you actually go to clickbank.com and search the marketplace of available products to buy or become an affiliate of.
There are tens of thousands of products there of all types and niches.
There are many products like you describe because there is a large demand for them. However, for every one of those types of products there are tons of other types.
I think you would be pleasantly surprised if you went to the site and just "looked around".
The great thing about clickbank is you can see all the stats on the products you are interested in becoming an affiliate for. You can see how they are selling, the refund rate, the percentage of affiliate marketing them, etc..
I hope this helps.
To you success,
Michael
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aplina
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 14:58
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every affiliate website look the same and quiet cheap. the only trick is to make something different should you decide to join one.
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cmartel
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 15:09
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I would say that 99% of them are garbage and aren't worth promoting.
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lavendersluv
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 16:22
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I have to agree with Michael all products on clickbank are not worthless, depending on what you are looking many of the ebooks are good enough to get you started if general information on a specific topic is all you needed.
Don't get me wrong I have come across some ebooks that are crap just the same. But for the most part for the onces I have purchases they have been very good. thanks
Michelle
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 18:55
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I agree that some Clickbank products are garbage, but there are some very good Clickbank products out there that you can learn a lot from.
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TB550
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 19:53
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All CB sites are not worthless. If you look at all of the different niches there is something there for everyone. And if you purchase through them, they are very good about enforcing the refund policies.
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happywife
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# Posted: 25 Nov 2007 21:10
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suresh,
I do agree that a lot of the "make money online" products at clickbank are useless to a person new to online marketing, etc. I bought a couple when I was getting started last year and they really weren't much help.
The best thing I ended up reading on the subject was the free Affiliate Masters Course at the end of my signature. It was more realistic and helpful than the few other books I got from CB.
As mentioned above, they do have a lot of other digital products not related to that niche. I suspect many of them are worth the price.
For instance, on my chocolate site, I promote two CB products for software that enables people to print their own personalized candy bar wrappers for parties and special occasions. The price is fair for the product and I've had a couple of sales for those who want to DIY instead of ordering them already done.
If you are looking to get into online marketing, I would suggest the free book I mentioned in my signature. If you want to just promote CB products, perhaps you will find more success promoting products related to other niches.
All the best.
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Bluecash
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# Posted: 25 Nov 2007 21:45
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This thread was very helpful. I was beginning to think that I was goin crazy. I have been promoting Clickbank products for the last year and even with two websites I have received minimal profits.
Clickbank has some good products but for the most part the market is flooded. I keep hearing that the best way to make money through Clickbank is to sell your own products. Not sure how true this is but this advice was given to me by one of the merchants who sells their products through the site.
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lavendersluv
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# Posted: 26 Nov 2007 08:33
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Selling you own ebooks on clickbank is good, the thing with that is that you have affiliate program as well so it not only you doing the selling. If your product is good you can do several things, joint venture, firesells and more to get the word out about your ebooks.
Contact some big affiliate marketers, check out other forums that offers you the opportunity to meet others who are looking for joint ventures.
The key as well is in the list, if you can form a JV partnership with someone who has a huge list that can really get things going. good luck
Michelle
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# Posted: 26 Nov 2007 08:45
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Historically, many have made a good income from Clickbank. At this point in time, I wouldn't waste my time on it. I have never promoted a CB product. I feel that most of them are complete trash.
If you decide to do this, look for an excellent product. I suggest purchasing a few until you find one that you feel good about putting your name behind. It will cost you some money, but you will be able to describe the benefits better and you will be able to provide screenshots.
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lavendersluv
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# Posted: 26 Nov 2007 09:15
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As mention earlier you have chosen a very saturated field. It really is hard to make money, you see you are at a great disadvantage...
1. It sounds like you don't have a huge list of subscribers. You do know that is how this all works, these guys are not out there promoting these products they are using their list where they will make x amount up front. There list then turns around and promotes the product as an affiliate to their list and so on. While the top AM has already moved on to the next project.
2. Get in on some joint ventures with other affiliate marketers who have already build their lists, these are the people you want to reach. These subscribers trust this person, if he recommends a new hot way of doing something you have been looking for you will buy.
3. by the time you hear about a new ebooks, of system for doing something is really is to late. It has already been beta tested, and shared among hundred or thousands in many cases by the time you finally received a email or come across a link in someone signature file at a forum. thanks
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# Posted: 26 Nov 2007 18:13 · Edited by: duckbird
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Clickbank is a complete waste of time.
I've been trying to promote cb products for the last few months and it wasn't until last week that I made my first sale...and that was to myself.
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jschuman
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 12:58 · Edited by: jschuman
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ClickBank products are like anything else on the Internet. Some are good and some are bad. Depending on the niche you are looking in, there are many excellent ebooks you can sell and make money on.
If you are searching for something specifically and not finding it then there is a great idea for an ebook you could write and sell on ClickBank.
Plus they offer a built in ready to go affiliate program. They have thousands of affiliates already in place and take care of all the paperwork and commission payments for you. How can you beat that!
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cmartel
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 13:19
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I do not know of one ClickBank product that is worth its bandwidth.
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 14:46 · Edited by: A8ch
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Quoting: suresh So much hype around these CB products, but are they of any value at all? To me, they all seem to be the same old stuff (about SEO, PPC etc.) in different words, not much else.
Suresh,
Things are not always what they seem at first glance, and in any marketplace, especially the Internet, the buyer has a responsibility to look past the hype and get to the nitty gritty.
Hype is a normal element in marketing. It's designed to get the attention, stir the emotions and influence the viewer into making a snap decision.
That's purely a copywriting function and does not necessarily correlate to the quality of the product that's being promoted. Great copywriting and product quality are not synonymous. "Buyer beware!" should always be the caution of every shopper.
The reality is that some products will always be superior to others and that group will always be a tiny percentage of the entire offering.
The informed and savvy consumer understands this and knows how to adjust his or her expectations accordingly.
Hermas
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cmartel
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 18:52
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Quoting: cmartel I do not know of one ClickBank product that is worth its bandwidth.
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2007 14:22
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I recently bought a marketing ebook from clickbank that blew
my mind... and I have been around the block.
BUT for marketers who want to make money consider this:
Clickbank has a very liberal refund policy. The people who
buy the "make money" ebooks are probably the biggest
refunders on CB, so thats a factor to look at if you choose to
promote those kind of products.
I was poking around in CB and there is an ebook on how to
get your pet Ferret to stop biting and stinking. NOW thats
a real niche product and a solution to a problem. The information
may be available elsewhere, but to a desperate buyer,
theres real value.
So step back and look at the market place... and then see
if you can find an info product that fits market needs. CB
has a lot of these niche products.
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2007 20:29
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There are interesting products on CB and some of them are very helpful if you choose your niche carefully. The problem with most people who join CB is that they do not promote the products after they have joined the program.
As with anything, some products are garbage, but it is up to you to find out the useful ones.
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cherie27
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2008 04:00
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CB has alot of products, but to earn money with CB, you have to choose the right product and promote the product.
I have learn in order to earn money from the Internet, i will need to make some effort in promoting.
Don't be discourage with your result now. You will be able to succeed.
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mandy03
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# Posted: 8 Mar 2008 21:18
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Do you have to have a web site to promote a product from Clickbank? How does it work? I thought it was just an Ad I make and people click on it, then it goes to the web site of the product you are promoting. As you can tell, I am new at this and need lots of info.....please !
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# Posted: 9 Mar 2008 06:13
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Quoting: mandy03 Do you have to have a web site to promote a product from Clickbank? How does it work? I thought it was just an Ad I make and people click on it, then it goes to the web site of the product you are promoting.
You have the right idea. You don't have to have a website. You can place ads with links to the product page as you described.
That said, you can use a website to promote the products, too. Basically, you would be "preselling" so that people would click through to the sales page.
Those are just a couple of the options. Whatever works for y ou.
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# Posted: 9 Mar 2008 14:16
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Thanks Happywife. So how do I go about placing ads with the links to the product page? I bought AVJ and there is lots of good info in the package...but obviously not enough for a newbie.
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# Posted: 9 Mar 2008 18:52
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Well, it's been awhile since I used Clickbank products to place ads (they were never fruitful for me), so I need to think.
First decide which products you want to promote. You'll see a little link that says "create hoplink" (if I remember correctly), click on that and it will bring up a little box where you put in your clickbank ID name and then it will create the referral link for you.
You can use the link just as it is, or you can hide it by using link cloaking (I think they have instructions at CB on how to do that) or get a domain name and create subdomains for each product you want to promote. Then you just redirect that subdomain to your referral link.
If you are a "newbie" as you said, you may just want to stick with the basic link provided to get started. It's really easy to create a subdomain and use redirects (that's what I do) and it is probably easy to do link cloaking, but I haven't tried that out. So if you prefer to try that, go for it.
After you have decided on how you are going to link, then you just go and place your ads. You can use free advertising, like USfreeads or Craigslist or a whole range of others. Just do a Google search for free classifieds.
I wouldn't advise you to do PPC like Google Adwords unless you do some thorough research and get a good understanding of it first. Many people lose money that way because they don't know the best way to do it.
Hope that helps you get started.
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# Posted: 9 Mar 2008 22:09 · Edited by: 2002mjf
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Quoting: suresh I don't believe any of these products have ever helped a newbie. Far from it, these products simply appeal to a newbie's greed, that's all. In other words, revenue is being generated from the false hopes about home business, rather than from home business itself.
I certainly don't think so...I am an affilitte for Clickbank. I became one after buying a few of they're products and putting them into action. This is now my main source of income! Yes, it took a few months to get it right, but after I did, the money started flowing, and I had a new job!!!
I should also mention that I did not have a clue what Clickbank was untill I bought some of those affiliate e-books and courses.
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2008 18:37
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A lot of garbage Clickbank products yes. But some are decent. The best way to find out is to purchase the product yourself - which is difficult to do if you don't have a lot of cash to throw around. The next best way it to google the product and do some research. If people on associated forums like it, it's probably a good deal. That being said - many people will pay more for an ebook than an actual book because they can get it instantly.
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# Posted: 11 Mar 2008 00:32
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Anybody who says that all the products on ClickBank are garbage couldn't possibly know that. There are thousands of products on ClickBank. If you say they are all trash does that mean that you have evaluated all of them thereby making you qualified to say that they are all trash?
There are good products on ClickBank. It's just like anything else - you have to be selective. If you have a tendency to be more ethical then you will be more selective. If you just want to make money quick and you don't care about the customer, then you'll be open to the snake oil.
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