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bdkfreedom
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 11:36
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For those of you that haven't heard of Maverick Money Makers, I think it is a dominant program high and above anything else I have ever seen. I looked into WA and wasn't too ecstatic about it but obviously thats my own personal opinion. Many people in this forum have had great success with WA which is awesome! Different programs are for different folks and we all learn in different manners which makes us all unique when it comes to making money online! I'm curious about any opinions or feedback any of you WA members want to express??
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 15:07
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bdkfreedom: For those of you that haven't heard of Maverick Money Makers, I think it is a dominant program high and above anything else I have ever seen. I looked into WA and wasn't too ecstatic about it but obviously thats my own personal opinion. Many people in this forum have had great success with WA which is awesome! Different programs are for different folks and we all learn in different manners which makes us all unique when it comes to making money online! I'm curious about any opinions or feedback any of you WA members want to express??
I can't fault WA at all... It has tought me SO much. I recently saw a new program coming on the market that was costing over $700 WTF is with that
I can't comment on MMM, but WA has free hosting and free site builder amoung LOADS of other stuff, I can't imagine MMM can beat it
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 16:22
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Hi bdkfreedom
Can't answer to WA, however MMM is filled with a wealth of info. I myself have 10 yrs under my belt and actually learned quite a few things from those videos.
I would highly recommend, especially to those new to the scene of work at home/home base business.
Much Success
Susan
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 17:02
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Are you talking about the same Maverick Money Makers here?
http://maverickmoneymakers.com
It says that it's been around since 1997 but quite frankly this is the
first time I've heard of it. I have to check into this.
Looks interesting...
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 17:09
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Hi 040107
Yes that is correct. If it looks interesting to you via the first page.
Wait till you get inside. Whoa! The info videos are very professionally created by Mack himself. Step by step on how too.
Susan
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bdkfreedom
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2009 01:05
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Exactly Beginhere! For those that are unaware of this remarkable private society with enough information to keep you busy forever and making money online, I am trying to pass the word along!! They only take a few members in at a time because mack can only teach and focus on a number of people at one time. If you are a non-believer, make sure you check out the free videos I have given!
I promise you, I have never seen or heard of someone such as Mack basically feeding you all of this stuff from his hand! Many other programs out there tell you how to do and apply steps to make money online. Mack tells you how but then walks you through each and every step through video tutorials on answering the what and where questions that have been lingering in our minds since the beginning! Once again, the free videos below sold me on the program alone. The actual video that actually shows you one of his secrets abou Google Adwords is what reeled me in! This society is strictly for those interested in making tons of money with affiliate marketing! If you still have questions after this post, please feel free to pm me!
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 09:16
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Hi bdk freedom
I recently joined maverick. I agree that there is a ton of info, but I find that on closer inspection there are sometimes important bits of info missing.
How are u doing with? made any money yet? if so with what?
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 11:20
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Two Thumbs up to MMM! I'm not going to knock on WA but I can speak about both because I have been with both. Regardless of the free site builder and hosting and blah, blah, blah that WA offer...
MMM runs laps around that community. Yes the tactics and strategies offered through MMM may cost you a few dollars here and there...but they produce results and can easily be paid for.
MMM offers everything to everyone regardless if your wet behind the ears or been around the block. What I love about this club is that it focus is one developing those long-term strategies that allow you to build a sustainable, profitable business to last many many year...however Mack understands the importance of getting a newcomer into positive cash flow by offering quick start blueprints.
Not to mention the video training...I'm not new with computers, I am very computer literate; but still it makes the learning so much easier to SEE step by step instructions...and with the new content he has added this month along...wow...that reminds me...Jerry Clark will be speaking today to our group....exciting stuff around here!
I strongly suggest you get in now...stop wasting time with this mini course here, that audio program there, over there is another ebook...don't get me wrong...personal development and reading is cool...but you learn it all in one localized club....no distractions just everything you need from some old school guerrilla marketing tactics to online 'sneak attacks' to get your message in front of those who are looking.
So some may say...you get free this and that with WA, but the quality of content with MMM is far superior!
I still shocked as to all the updates for Feb. along...did I mention Jerry Clark is on a tele-seminar with us today...yea!!!
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 11:24
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Thanks for the tip on Maverick Money Makers.
After doing some research I decided to try WA. When I tried to subscribe, I got multiple PayPal error messages. I have a PayPal account and a PayPal credit card, but it would not accept either. Attempts to use three different credit cards (clicking the check box to utilize a CC other than PayPal) resulted in a message that I could not use a CC or an E-mail address associated with PayPal. I tried the ask for help via the WA message box on the subscription page. That was last week and no response was forthcoming.
I am doing the 30 Day Challenge, and will now check out MMM as well.
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 12:54
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Hmmm...I don't see too many W.A. members aside from footbag_man rising to meet the challenge in this thread.
Do you W.A. members agree that M.M.M. is a better program?
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bdkfreedom
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 15:27
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You all would be nuts not to check out these videos! Struggling with affiliate marketing for a while now, I have finally figured it out! It was so much easier than I thought! I was basically not applying my work the correct way. There was so much more to know and secrets I never knew about when it comes to advertising! Writing articles, having a blog, etc. is what everybody out there is trying to do! The simple secret Mack shows on these free video tutorials made me want to know more! I couldn't pass it up! The awesome thing was that, this secret was only 1 of SO many!
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 16:02
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Well said brfreedom! So much much one can learn within this club that if followed you'll it make it difficult NOT to earn. Plus it's backed by a two month guarantee so there is nothing to lose only money to be made
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 17:16
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The six step-by-step videos that Mack gives you to learn from before you even pay anything for Maverick Money Makers is excellent. I have never seen anyone give something away that helpful and that detailed for f.r.e.e.
Becky
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 18:30
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Everyone who has not yet been informed, obviously westfam11 seems to know the secrets behind these videos also! Those who haven't seen them yet are truly missing out on the chance of a lifetime! Mack literally walks you through every step and SHOWS you how to apply all of these secrets!
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2009 07:38 · Edited by: westfam11
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westfam11: The six step-by-step videos that Mack gives you to learn from before you even pay anything for Maverick Money Makers is excellent. I have never seen anyone give something away that helpful and that detailed for f.r.e.e.
I was wrong, there are seven step-by-step videos. Great content and help on the videos. Doesn't leave anything out.
Becky
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2009 11:59
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hi, im also interested in MMM... does the membership include free website??
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2009 14:11
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It includes the advertising page if that is what you are referring to. There is no charge to use that.
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2009 18:00
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I cannot comment much on Maverick Money Makers because I am sticking with WA, and have not joined MMM.
I learned a long time ago to focus.
I was one who kept reading ebooks...and trying miracle tools.
So, I would say just do your research, and act from a place of inspiration, and do what you feel is best for you.
To success!
Victoria
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2009 20:55
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No one from WA has anything else to say?
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Sonni
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2009 21:07
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Unbelievable isn't it? Usually there's an army of WA members jumping in on something like this.
Sonni
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040107
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2009 02:50
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You know, now here's a chance for Wealthy Affiliates and Maverick
Money Makers to show what they're made of.
WA and MMM should stop comparing their $40-$97/month
membership to a course with a one-time cost like Profit Lance or My
Online Income System. They're different as in apples and oranges.
If you think about it it would cost thousands of dollars to have
access to these kinds of memberships so you should think that
you're getting your money's worth right? Well, not always.
How much value is packed in these memberships? That depends on
the individual. However, certainly these sites try to inflate their
perceived value by adding things that you certainly can get
elsewhere for free such as a forum. Of course everything is
conveniently there in the members area for you.
I find that membership sites often loses value as your cost to access
increases over time and new worthwhile content becomes more
infrequent. Most membership sites often become static in a few
months time with the exception of WA and maybe MMM.
However, Wealthy Affiliates is clever by giving new members access
to the "8-week plan" only one week at a time. This ensures more
people stay with the course for at least two months before
canceling their memberships. By this time, they've already paid
around $80 for access. Hopefully they would have enough time to
absorb the material.
You may or may not need any of these to start making money but
having the right information packaged in a way that is easy for you
to learn is always good.
Anyway, stop comparing a monthly-fee product to a one-time-fee
product!
So....WA or MMM?
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2009 19:59
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I haven't heard of MMM before but I gave the site a quick skim. At first glance, the site seems to be a bit hypey..."This System Makes Me At Least $171,168.06 Per Month And You Can Start Using It 15 Minutes From Now"...
While it is definitely possible to make that much money, I am sorry but you are not going to be able to do that in 15 minutes. It takes time to learn how to make money online no matter which tool/site/ebook you use to learn. From that perspective, the WA sales page seems a little more realistic to me, which I personally prefer.
Second is the price. I agree that it is not always best to compare a one-time fee for an ebook to a monthly membership to a site. Profit Lance does cost more than WA initially, but you only pay once. WA is cheaper to join, but if you want to stay for any length of time, then the months do add up quickly if you are on a budget.
$97 a month to join MMM seems a bit much for me. There is no way I would have considered it when I first started out. Having said that though, if it does teach you how to do affiliate marketing and you make some referrals, you can essentially remain a member there for free. This applies to both WA and MMM.
Third is the content. Although some people don't like WA overly much, I can honestly say that it has helped me learn to make money online. While I am still by no means rich, I have learned all the basics and then some and make money regularly now (although again it is not much since I don't spend much time doing it...I'm a full time college student).
I joined WA with no experience related to marketing of any kind, and the Learning Center tutorials showed me exactly how to get started. While forums and other resources do add to the learning process, WA was all I really needed to get started.
I have not used MMM, so I can't really comment on their content. It sounds to me like it is a lot of the same stuff they teach you at WA. I can't find too much on the sales page that says exactly what they will teach you, but the videos do look impressive and I would guess that the site is a good one.
I am not here to sway anybody and suggest WA over MMM, or vice versa. I just know that when I was first starting out, WA was what I found first...and it worked for me.  If I had tried PL or something else, who knows, that may have worked too. If I found MMM though I wouldn't have considered it because of the $100 per month.
You have to decide what is best for you. Take a look at all your options carefully and decide what to try. I do recommend taking Victoria's (NTC) advice and sticking to a single program though. If you focus, you have a much higher chance of success.
I suppose I can never really know how good MMM is unless I joined myself. I do have to admit that the site looks impressive and I think it may help anybody who wants to learn how to start making some regular money online.
I think that both WA and MMM could help you. You just have to decide which to go with. For me, price was the deciding factor, but that may vary for different people.
Bottom Line: Do what you want. I know that WA has helped me personally so I can honestly recommend it. I will not be so naive though to claim that it is the best site in the universe. It is highly likely that there are other membership sites out there that are just as good, or even better.
All I can say is that WA is not a scam, which many people seem to think. It is a real training program that helped me. But there are other options too. Once somebody joins MMM and shares some more information about it, I would love to hear it.
I hope this helps someone. I know this post is pretty long and I may appear to be rambling, but my point is simply that WA is a good option, but there are other options too.
-Mike
PS. 040107, you make some good points (and I agreed with some earlier in my post). However, I do need to make one clarification.
You imply that WA tricks people into staying longer so they make more money. They do this by having the 8 week plan available only one week at a time. This would indeed mean that a person would have to pay for two months to get the full plan.
However, that is not the case. If you go to the Learning Center, you can get all the information immediately. It is not broken up into an 8 week plan, but the information is all the same. Instead the tutorials are broken up into three sections: beginner, intermediate, and advanced.
You can go at your own pace and don't really have to wait 8 weeks to finish the plan. I was in a hurry when I started and I wanted the information quickly. So I went to the learning center and got all the tutorials instantly, and finished almost everything my first week.
Just wanted to clarify.  I am not here to say that WA is better than MMM, but I will stand up for WA since it has helped me. As always, if anybody has any questions about WA feel free to PM me.
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2009 00:15
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Finally, Mike to the rescue on behalf of WA. Hi Mike! Good job of getting your 2 cents in.
My 2 cents is that WA is more credible even though I did do the 8 week program and it didn't do much for me. I got more out of the 30 Day Challenge which is designed with newbies in mind. And I have more respect for Ed Dale than the 2 at WA, lol their names I don't remember.
From all that I've read particularly in the Warrior Forum there are some controversial threads on MMM. I would not join them or trust them based on what research I've done.
WA is not a scam by any means and works great for a lot of people. MMM is getting a bad rap fast looks like a risky deal.
Sonni
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2009 13:18
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Hmmm, many interesting comments from everyone so far...Thank you! Well, the truth of the matter is that every program out there is not relevant for everyone. Each and every online entrepreneur has success with stuff and no success with others, just the way it goes.
Sonni-as far as warrior forum is concerned I also visited it and read the reviews on MMM. The main reason for the bad reviews there is that in MMM, he uses the warrior forum as an example to post threads and post sig links. Everyone that has signed up went to the forum without knowing exactly how to post and pretty much spammed the whole forum=not good for true MMM members.
I am currently a member of MMM, finished the PL course last month and made very little money with that program. With being a MMM member, I have already made double what I accomplished with PL. Not dissing PL by any means, just wasn't the right program for me.
I agree with most of your replies in that the $100 a month membership is a lot for a newbie with MMM, although getting just two people to sign up pays for your membership while you learn a mountain of information to create your own wealth!!
I never believe anyones pitch pages myself yet know that they are doing something right in terms of making money online. I am basically taking bits and pieces from everything (MMM,PL,forums,etc) to generate a steady income online!
Oh and a little sidenote, MMM does have a 60-day money back guarantee for those that thought otherwise. I am only 3 weeks in and will have next months dues paid for already just by my referrals!
As for MMM providing you with your own website...the answer is no..... BUT the secrets revealed in the club show you so many sites available that I had never even seen or heard of to use that are FREE! My biggest struggle with affiliate marketing was finding out how to create a landing page. I made numerous calls and emails to find out the pricing for someone to make me a landing page. The average rate out there was about $500! Yikes! With MMM, I have mastered the idea and can now focus on which products to promote rather than what my visitors will see! The "doorway page" does all the work for me and I set them up for FREE!!
So, for those still confused about MMM, pm me and we can talk some more!
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I can't comment on MMM, but $97 is A LOT of money to pay on a monthly basis. I'm sure the information at MMM is great (and it better be for $97 a month), but I kind of wonder if its another Profit Lance type course - a lot of tutorials, but nothing cutting edge.
What is cutting edge about WA is not the tutorials or the tools (although the Competition Spy Tool, Clickbank Research Tool, and My-linker all rock!), but the forum. I've never seen a place where members so freely share information and don't hold back on secrets.
I still remember when article marketing was relatively unknown, and in the WA forum a guy named Travis Sago (the creator of BUM Marketing) decided to share what he knew, in spite of the fact that it would mean more competition for him. 2703 WA forum posts later, Travis is still giving cutting edge information that you can't find anywhere else.
Its not just Travis, however. WA members like Thadroe (Affiliate Niche Club), Potpiegirl (One Week Marketing) and too many others to mention always step up to the plate and give perspectives on internet marketing strategies you aren't going to find in any tutorial. With tutorials, you are only scratching the surface and getting general information - with the stuff you learn at the WA forum, you are digging sooooo much deeper and learning sooooo much more.
So, if you want to shell out $97 a month, I'm sure MMM can help you. I've heard a lot of people say that if the only thing WA included was the forum and nothing else, it would be worth the monthly fee, so take that for what it is worth...
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2009 22:52
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I don't know about WA but with MMM the f.r.e.e. videos that he gives before you even pay for the site (seven in total) are not general information at all. It is a step-by-step video that tells you exactly what to do and how to do it. I am not a paying member but if the inside is anything like the f.r.e.e. videos, it would be worth the $97.00.
Becky
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2009 15:23 · Edited by: klrrider
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It has been awhile since I have been here and I am glad to see all the comments on WA, MMM and PL.
I happen to be a member of all three so I thought I would add my 2 cents.
I joined PL, WA and MMM in that order over the past two years. ALL have their positive attributes and have helped me to learn and believe me I am a slow learner!
If I had to pick one it would be WA. And it is because of the Forum and the other tools that allow you to interact with the membership. If you say you belong to WA I can verify that and even communicate with you there. Not so with PL and MMM.
I feel that Kyle and Carson are the most loyal to their customers. I receive emails from all three and Andrew and Mac are always promoting other programs whereas Kyle and Carson only promote WA and WA products. I feel that tells me a little something about them and their integrity.
I must say though that WA and MMM do upsell you after you join and that is not the case with PL
The money is not an issue with me because I have promoted all there enough that my memberships are covered.
I would like to conclude by saying ALL THREE are Great and in their own way have something unique to offer and are worth the money spent.
Thanks to WAHF for giving us some neutral ground to stand on!
Later...
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2009 18:34
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I watched the MMM videos the other night and I must say the Mack guy try's to sound sincere at least. He brags about working only 4 hours a day and then turns right around and says he's available 24/7 for all his peeps. I don't know which one it is to tell you the truth, probably works way more than 4 hours my guess.
It looks like he has a lot to offer and knows his stuff. Of course, like all the other guru's he leads you along and drags out all the information over time so that he can keep you a member and continues to tempt you with more so that you will stay.
I don't believe it's a scam, but something about him bothers me not sure what it is. I'm a thinking person and never buy or jump into anything without serious thought, but if I wasn't and was desperate like many newbies are he would have got me. He's convincing as all get out and his club is impressive. Maybe that's what bothers me. My 2 cents on MMM.
Sonni
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# Posted: 22 Feb 2009 13:51 · Edited by: workingman08
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As a customer of both programs, I will say that both bring an enormous amount of information to the table. If you're lazy  or hate to read a lot then nothing will work out for you.
Either way, it takes effort and a huge fire under your ass to succeed. Either one will do the trick, so I guess the cost comparison becomes the relevant factor.
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# Posted: 23 Feb 2009 05:13
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Well everybody is different and what suits one person doesnt always suit another. They are two different kinds of programs, personally i do not really see how they can be compared to each, so what is the point
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