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#101 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 18:24
Perhaps Jah would like to answer these questions that was asked by Patrick Pretty but received no answer there. Here is your chance to make your point to all that read or are members of this forum.
Here are some of the questions that PP posed:
* Do Narc That Car members need the permission of store managers [such as managers of Walmart, Best Buy and Giant Eagle] to record the plate numbers of patrons?
* How should Narc That Car promoters behave if confronted by a store manager or patron?
* Who posts bond for a Narc That Car "independent consultant" if he or she gets arrested for defying a private-property owner's policies, procedures or orders?
* Should Narc That Car consultants refuse to turn over the paper on which the license numbers are recorded or the video camera or the cell phone on which the license numbers were recorded if approached by the store manager or a concerned patron?
* What should a Narc That Car promoter do if a store manager or store patron observes license-plate numbers being recorded and says, "Stop that! I'm calling the police?"
* What should a Narc That Car promoter do if a store manager or patron asks for identification? Flee? Provide it? Argue? Insist they're authorized to appear on private property and in parking lots maintained by retailers such as Giant Eagle because they're authorized to do so by Narc That Car or a Narc That Car downline group?
* Should Narc That Car promoters destroy the papers on which they've recorded the plate numbers after entering them into the Narc That Car database? How about the videos? Should they be destroyed?
* What if the papers and the videos later are needed for evidence and have been destroyed? Should Narc That Car promoters preserve records of all the license plate numbers they record?
* Does your opinion about Google cover all contingencies? Can it beat back all potential challenges? Is it even valid?
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#102 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 18:41
Investigator: Here is your chance to make your point to all that read or are members of this forum.
I'll bet he'll want to set up another telephone/webinar! 
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#103 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 22:27
No I think he will just slither away and crawl back under his rock. Promoters such as the likes of Jah always try and pass the buck on to others in order to make themselves look important and like they are in the know. Unfortunately, most of the time it back fires and they are left with out answers to even the simplest questions.
Jah will never answer any of the questions asked out on an open forum and like you say he will want to do it by phone since that is the only control he has in that he can block anyone who probes too deeply into his game.
I like the part where he now says that they have not approached the Amber Alert System yet but will be offering their services to them in the future which happens to be a direct contradiction to what the company has stated in their very own video on their web page and what they have continued to claim until that was also proven to be a lie. Now the company is claiming that over zealous promoters were the cause of the miss information and yet again in their very own video they make claims that have all been dis proven as false.
Just the other day they claimed to have the three major auto makers on board. One phone call to each again proved to be a lie as none of them had ever heard of Narc That Car or William Forrester. Just like the press release that they put out claiming That Billie Forrester was a former FBI Agent and then he was a programmer for the FBI and now we find out he served time in a Federal Pen so I guess he does qualify as having worked with the FBI.
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#104 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 00:01
As noted in earlier post, if you want a reason to do, or not to do something you can find it. One can accept the below info as their intelligence permits.
Fact: Greatness is often achieved through adversity. Optimal timing for taking advantage of this opportunity is here and now. It's called the Visionary stage. Where you See It & Seize It.
Here is the news article on regarding the Texas Atty General and Response by Narc That Car (NTC). In think the article is pretty fair and balance, and states actual facts that are directly from NTC's CEO.
http://www.athensreview.com/local/x1230894711/Narc-called-into-question
As you can see there is nothing that substantiates anyones unfounded claims of a scam or potential scam. As a matter of fact the first paragraph states "But the District Attorney's office says, not so fast." in regards to questioning about the viability of NTC.
People will continue indefinitely to not only say things that catch the ear but have no substance or backing in order to keep you from taking advantage of a great opportunity. Very often these same people have nothing substantive going on in their life and heading no where, and fascinate themselves by basing in negative energy and trying to get others to join in it.
As always I remain available to people to help them make a complete and informed evaluation of this opportunity. Our group leaders have spent actual real time at NTC headquarters Actually taking with the CEO, William Forrester and other execs at the company. We share this due diligence with those interested in this opportunity because we realize it can be extremely difficult for the average person to get true direct info about a company and business opportunity and we often have to go with our gut feeling about it.
If you don't like the opportunity after a fair evaluation move on, there are plenty of other opportunities out there that may work for you. But don't get lost in the naysayers onliners and unsubstantiated statements, even ones that are not attempting to make the CEO out to be a non credible person, when the person has never had a conversation with the CEO, or connected to someone who has.
We are having a Real Facts talk on NTC on Sunday, February 14, at 9:30pm EST. We are gonna show some Love on Valentines Day!
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#105 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 00:16 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
TJamMoneyMan: I'll bet he'll want to set up another telephone/webinar!
Investigator: Jah will never answer any of the questions asked out on an open forum and like you say he will want to do it by phone since that is the only control he has in that he can block anyone who probes too deeply into his game.
FreeCashMan: We are having a Real Facts talk on NTC on Sunday, February 14, at 9:30pm EST. We are gonna show some Love on Valentines Day!
Well whaddya know... we're BOTH right!
Investigator: ...they...claiming That Billie Forrester was a former FBI Agent and then he was a programmer for the FBI and now we find out he served time in a Federal Pen so I guess he does qualify as having worked with the FBI.
LOL!
Now that's some "humorous stuff" right there!
FreeCashMan: And on occasion, new people here, you see me post some humorous stuff
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#106 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 09:04
Check this out as NarcThatCar has made the news on NBC DFW
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/business/Company-Claims-Recording-Car-Tags-Can-Lead-to-Profit-84074 602.html
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#107 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 11:47
I simply cannot comprehend why someone would want to investigate a members past rather than the opportunity offered by that member!
I vere seriously doubt that theres a person on this forum that does'nt have,shall I say "Skeletons in their closet"?
I certainly have a few! I also hope that if anyone wants to investigate me that they go back far enough to look at my service to my country....the USA!
I no longer wonder why lots of people in my past failed to make it into my present!
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#108 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 12:08
To those inquiring about this opportunity to see if it is one they want to take advantage of because there is NO Selling, Trying, Switching, and Using products like juice and vitamins in the traditional network marketing opportunities, you are seeing a lot of press info come out of Dallas and/or Texas area, specifically, where the home office is located due to the ongoing multiple live opportunity meetings held in that region, and the increasing number of people attending those meetings and getting involved with this business, and hearing about the income testimonials of people at those meetings.
Fact is some people have been able to make substantial 5 figure incomes monthly in just a few months from gather license plate data, and sharing with others how to do the same. Additionally, many people are truly earning earning 100s-1000s with this business in a short time, and love it because of its simplicity in just having to collect public data.
The way our comp plan works you are going to receive a $50 commission just for submitting 10 plates of data without having to obtain any referrals like other business, and this commission check is paid out promptly.
Narc Technologies held, as I recall, a (B-) rating with the BBB, the change of marketing direction with the company for national expansion prompted an updated review by the BBB, and that is all that is going on, while conducting this review the BBB went back to essentially a "no rating." Our CEO has met with the BBB, as noted in the news posted article, and is working to make sure the BBB has information to fairly rate the company.
So for those that are concerned about what the BBB may think, those are the facts.
Again, it must be noted that people are inquiring about the company NOT because people are being scammed out of money as the naysayers and haters would want you to believe. I think the mass inquires are, in part, just a natural reaction of people not believe that this revolutionary business opportunity is real. I certainly thought the same when I was first introduced to it. However, fact is it very much is real, and those of us that have decided to become consultants are excited about the grand opportunity we have to finally improve our financial income for the better with this business.
So take a good look at it yourself and see if you want to join the joyous excitement.
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#109 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 12:30
As to the made to appear viable questions above that are made to seem like there is or could be great probable issues in regards to us and those to come that are participating in this business. I will be addressing them. I first heard of the questions AFTER I scheduled a Q & A call on "Get The Facts On Narc That Car" therefore I will treat them as question to be addressed on the call first.
The questions overall really lack a "frame work" in which such questions or issues could even be of any substance, or concern for independent representatives, and really reflects one who again doesn't have an understanding of this opportunity.
We recorded our previous Live Call and it is openly available to those that chose to access it via our general presentation information page. We have plans to do the same with the upcoming call.
You will apparently see one man's apparent vendetta, TJMoneyMan, continue to seek to come here and try and "take pop shots" at me specifically, and this business with clearly no merit. I'm not sure what the new guy called Investigator will continue to do, but to those reading this thread to try and do due diligence on this business, know that I seek to avoid engaging in meaningless dialog with people that clearly are engage in hating on me, so you won't see me going back and forth on garbage talk. I will continue to focus on sharing my excitement, and info that will help you make a wise decision regarding pursuing the Narc That Car opportunity.
As always I remain openly available to answer sincere inquires about this business and can be contacted various way though this platform, but anyone that has been to my site will see that I give you direct access to my home office number and can easily be reached by phone, as well as email.
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#110 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 17:51
Please, for heaven's sake, anyone considering this because of what "freecashman" is writing, take the time to look beyond the fluff. You will see that he rarely addresses specifics and accuses anyone that raises valid questions of not having facts.
Go to mlmhelpdesk.com and hear what a pro-mlmer has to say about it.
Also, just for a moment pretend that you are absolutely sure this is a scam. Now go back and read how this guy is presenting this to you.
Please think about it because this is just scary.
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#111 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 21:45
* Do Narc That Car members need the permission of store managers [such as managers of Walmart, Best Buy and Giant Eagle] to record the plate numbers of patrons?
You don't have to get plates from a private business.
* How should Narc That Car promoters behave if confronted by a store manager or patron?
OUTRAGEOUS...GO BALLISTIC jking. I would personally act civil and explain what I'm doing.
* Who posts bond for a Narc That Car "independent consultant" if he or she gets arrested for defying a private-property owner's policies, procedures or orders?
I would imagine your bail bondsman or friends/family. You shouldn't defy any polices of a private-property owner EVER.
* Should Narc That Car consultants refuse to turn over the paper on which the license numbers are recorded or the video camera or the cell phone on which the license numbers were recorded if approached by the store manager or a concerned patron?
You don't have to get plates from a private business.
* What should a Narc That Car promoter do if a store manager or store patron observes license-plate numbers being recorded and says, "Stop that! I'm calling the police?"
You don't have to get plates from a private business.
Also, why are they asking me if they are calling the police?
* What should a Narc That Car promoter do if a store manager or patron asks for identification? Flee? Provide it? Argue? Insist they're authorized to appear on private property and in parking lots maintained by retailers such as Giant Eagle because they're authorized to do so by Narc That Car or a Narc That Car downline group?
Again you don't have to get cars plates from a private business.
* Should Narc That Car promoters destroy the papers on which they've recorded the plate numbers after entering them into the Narc That Car database? How about the videos? Should they be destroyed?
Why would I keep the paper? What video?
* What if the papers and the videos later are needed for evidence and have been destroyed? Should Narc That Car promoters preserve records of all the license plate numbers they record?
Where are you going with this? Like for the purposes of a court of law?
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#112 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 23:20 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: You will apparently see one man's apparent vendetta, TJMoneyMan, continue to seek to come here and try and "take pop shots" at me specifically, and this business with clearly no merit.
Yeah right, I'm on a vendetta, when all you have to do is what you WON'T do - answer the questions HERE for all to see!
Anyway, you don't have to worry about my questions.
Concern yourself with the investigation now in progress by the office of the Henderson County, Texas DA, and the DA of the State of Texas itself.
You think you can get them to come to a telephone/webinar?
FreeCashMan: As always I remain openly available to answer sincere inquires about this business and can be contacted various way though this platform, but anyone that has been to my site will see that I give you direct access to my home office number and can easily be reached by phone, as well as email.
ANYTHING but simply post an answer HERE in this thread, that YOU started.
An answer that all can see.
An undeniable, written answer, that will be a permanent record.
Don't worry, NarcThatCar CEO William Forrester will have option to 'take the fifth' when the time comes.
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#113 · Posted: 11 Feb 2010 23:43 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
wtxhaul,
First and most importantly - who are you answering on behalf of?
Are these answers of your own opinion, or do you speak on behalf of NarcThatCar as their policy representative on matters like these?
Or are these answers quoted from written policy of NarcThatCar?
Anyway, a few comments on your answers:
wtxhaul: * Do Narc That Car members need the permission of store managers [such as managers of Walmart, Best Buy and Giant Eagle] to record the plate numbers of patrons? You don't have to get plates from a private business.
Oh really?
Well that's exactly what NarcThatCar suggests you do, get plate information from cars in parking lots, of private businesses like those mentioned!
wtxhaul: * Who posts bond for a Narc That Car "independent consultant" if he or she gets arrested for defying a private-property owner's policies, procedures or orders? I would imagine your bail bondsman or friends/family...
Are we using our 'imagination' for these answers, or are you speaking factually, for NarcThatCar?
I hope your friends and family have money and/or real property equity for your bail then.
Along with unbridled generosity and TRUST - not only in YOU, but in NarcThatCar.
Including the sheer stupidity to lay it all on the line to support your MLM endless recruiting efforts.
wtxhaul: * What should a Narc That Car promoter do if a store manager or store patron observes license-plate numbers being recorded and says, "Stop that! I'm calling the police?" Also, why are they asking me if they are calling the police?
They will do both, if they are smart.
No one knows you, what you are doing or why.
If you are armed and dangerous.
Or if you have criminal intentions.
To say nothing of how 'the terroristic threat' we are under has us taking note of anything out of the ordinary, especially in a public place.
(Just leave your bag in a public building, and see how security personnel go into hyper mode!)
And to get a POLICE REPORT if necessary - see next question/answer:
wtxhaul: Where are you going with this? Like for the purposes of a court of law?
EGGZACKLY!!
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#114 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 02:15
Naysayers keep talking and Visionaries and Believers are getting paid.
Got my first, of many to come, checks today. Just posted video proof on my site(s).
Dear Home Business Seeker, you can listen to people that have nothing to back up their claims of scam, that can make up "what if questions" of no substance until the day of Resurrection, and stay in a state of need of a simple straight-forward opportunity to improve your cash-flow,
or
You can get info from sources that have actually gone to Dallas and talked with executives of the Company, understand that this company has publicly made it known that they didn't just throw this biz together for networkers but that they hired 2 of the top highly experience in mlm law firms known to make sure they get it right and do things the right way so that the 20K and growing independent reps of Narc That Car can improve their financial future for the better, and give you an opportunity to do the same without Worrying about Selling, Trying, Switching or Using products like traditional network marketing companies that have likely failed you in the past.
If you FEAR that the cost of getting started for $100, where you get a $50 commission check immediately, no referrals required, for submitting 10 license plate data from public information leaving you at $50 in home business start up cost, is going to destroy your life if the naysayers and haters could by remote chance possibly fall on the correct side of their unfounded claims somewhere down the road years later when $50 USD won't even buy you the same amount of groceries due to inflation, then clearly this is not the right business for you, and I wish you the best in your endeavors.
Now if you aren't in FEAR of a $100/$50 lost, and realize that, that small amount of money could lead to a life change financial event for the better than I welcome you to the Narc That Car Family, because quite frankly you can't find a more true and simple home business opportunity that can offer you the residual income potential that this business does right here and now with the presence of optimal timing and uniqueness that may only come once in a life-time.
Have a Successful weekend, for what else could be better to do!
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#115 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 02:29
FreeCashMan: You can get info from sources that have actually gone to Dallas and talked with executives of the Company
But you'll get nothing in writing.
Not here!
Not from NTC'ers.
This is just a 'lead capture thread'.
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#116 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 10:01
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#117 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 12:51
The Law in Florida is that an Independent Contractor MUST be licensed and Bonded which may well be the case in other states as well. Depending on how they classify your job depends on how much they will charge you for a license which could cost you as much as $500 dollars.
We must also not forget that you will need a business license since you will be running a business of collecting license plates and you are going to be paid for doing that.
Do not forget as an Independent Contractor you must register with the IRS so they can collect taxes and with your State Tax Office as well since most States including Florida want their fair share.
So, that great business where you were going to make all that big money seems to now have cost you more than what you may actually make.
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#118 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 15:02 · Edited by: wtxhaul
I didn't make any statements on behalf of the company....I never once said narc that car Told me/suggests/advises/ so Im not speaking on anybody's behalf. Where did I represent my self as narc that car? Your concerns are about private property....I told you in a nutshell your cars don't have to come from private business. Who are you representing?
Investigator it would be nice if your going to present information as fact that you cite your work.
If you have any questions about Indy contract taxes.
Click here the work is cited properly to the IRS. Contact the corp. office to see how they handle reporting your taxes. Contact your accountant to find out what your taxable income is. Uhh yeah so I'm not an employee of the corporation, your accountant or an employee of the IRS, but I would imagine posting tax questions you have on a internet forum is generally frowned upon, as the advice is not solid.
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#119 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 15:56 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
wtxhaul, and home business seekers, we again see the clear acts of those seeking to find away to put Narc That Car (NTC) down without just cause.
None, not a one, of these naysayers have posed these questions to NTC, none have gone to corporate and met with the executives, they just pull stuff out of a black hat and try and perform black magic to stray people for pursuing a legitimate opportunity that could truly change their financial future.
They pose questions to the Independent Rep., and then after the questions are appropriately squashed as to having no merit, or certainly not the issues they'd like them to be, they then want to play the well "are you speaking for Narc". It's just plan childish, "tricks are for kids" stuff.
Fact is, some people don't like this business because they think it's getting into other people's business, and that is okay, free thinking is allowed. What is not righteous is to bash a company, its executives without just cause because one disagrees. As if a corporation doesn't have a right to do things to protects its collateral, as if a company can't put something together that makes the money, its reps money and helps the community with things like stolen vehicles, people wanted for breaking the law, providing marketing information to other companies so they can better service and provide products to their customers, or potential customers.
Not one Naysayer can support their claims, so the attempted game is to try and repeat lies, misrepresentations and inaccuracies to have them accepted as truth after being said over and over. Problem is, they just don't realize that people in general are not as ignorant about things when they can get complete facts and details to make their own wise decision.
As I've said the naysayer only help to validate the business because if the entire crowd was running to this..."Houston We Have A Problem."
It's a beautiful day, I got my second $70 commission check today, with more to come. What did the naysayers do today, what people are they helping and training to improve there financial future? Can't do that and at the same time spend excessive time and energy in the negative cest pool. Can't do it!
Until someone can show that NTC is actually scamming people out of a bunch of money, or any money, by intentional design, and that this is what people are supposedly contacting authorities about and not just validation that all is good, then all that a naysayer says should go in one ear and out the next, and into the toilet to be flushed away and never return, so that one can focus their energies on the positive and attract the positive forces and energies that will lead them to enjoy a happier life.
I know I'm smiling big time and having a happier life, many on my team are doing the same, and many in NTC as a whole are doing that as well.
What a Beautiful Great Day it is!
Enjoy!
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#120 · Posted: 12 Feb 2010 22:38 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
wtxhaul: I didn't make any statements on behalf of the company....I never once said narc that car Told me/suggests/advises/ so Im not speaking on anybody's behalf.
Right, so these answers are just your own opinion.
The questions are an attempt to find out what NTC's policy is, regarding these very relevant questions.
Your answers are meaningless as far as that goes.
wtxhaul: Your concerns are about private property...
These are not my questions.
They are not my concerns.
But anyone doing this biz should be concerned with what NTC's answers are.
Furthermore, the concern here is not about private property, but what may happen to a NTC 'independent consultant' when they find themselves in such situations, which seems pretty likely.
wtxhaul: I told you in a nutshell your cars don't have to come from private business.
'In a nutshell', NTC, and NTC'ers, tell you to get license plate information from cars in the parking lots of the aforementioned private businesses, among other places.
wtxhaul: Investigator it would be nice if your going to present information as fact that you cite your work.
"Florida law" is the cited resource.
Anyone doing 'independent consulting' should be concerned with taxes!
You don't need to 'cite' the resource for that.
It's common business sense.
Those new to doing independent contracting should be so informed, by the entity they are doing independent contract work for, that they will be receiving a 1099 and are responsible for paying taxes from any earnings received.
It's the way business is done.
Ethically anyway.
wtxhaul: the work is cited properly to the IRS. Contact the corp. office to see how they handle reporting your taxes.
You seem pretty naive as to the nature of independent contracting.
For one thing taxes are not 'reported'.
They are PAID!
Or consequences must be dealt with.
Another thing, 1099's are routine.
All you have to do is say that NTC will send a 1099 TO THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, at the end of the tax year - if they are in fact going to do so.
You don't seem to be aware of this necessity.
wtxhaul: Who are you representing?
That's irrelevant because you are not asking me questions about my activities.
I asked who you are representing because these questions are an attempt to discern NTC's policy on these very important concerns.
So your answers, since they don't 'cite' NTC official policy, are essentially useless.
Merely the product of your "imagination" as you so stated.
FreeCashMan: As if a corporation doesn't have a right to do things to protects its collateral
FYI - a corporation only has a right to do LEGAL things to protect it's collateral.
FreeCashMan: Until someone can show that NTC is actually scamming people ... then all that a naysayer says should go in one ear and out the next,
Yeah right.
In other words, don't say anything until NTC is indicted, tried and convicted.
Until then just let the scam proceed please!
FreeCashMan: None, not a one, of these naysayers have posed these questions to NTC, none have gone to corporate and met with the executives
No problem, the DA of Henderson Cty, TX, and the DA of the state of Texas will be taking care of all that.
And they sure as hell won't be attending a ONE HOUR telephone/webinar to do so!
FreeCashMan: ...what people are they helping...?
Anyone who wants to avoid being SCAMMED!!!
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