To new Prospects looking into Coastal Vacations

Discussion in 'Coastal Vacations' started by hsimpsonjr, May 31, 2007.

  1. ateamfuntimer

    ateamfuntimer New Member

    Many people look at the Coastal Opportunity and see the great potential but shy away for various reasons. For some its the higher start-up cost. Most home based businesses offer you an opportunity to get started for a few hundred dollars while at level one the start-up fee is anywhere from $1295 ( level one ) for traditional Coastal to $1995 ( level one ) with the Coastal Closing center. Another thing that deters many is that you don't make money right away. After making the investment for the package to get started, setting up websites, and advertising making money right away is a much needed factor.

    So what to do? Id say join the Coastal Closing Center. Now when a statement like that made it needs to be backed up. So here are the reasons I believe you should.

    1- Lower start-up cost

    You can get started for as low as $69.95. At this price even those that want to "test" the waters can afford to get started. At this price you don't have the closers at the call center kick in until you make at least one sales but if you up your investment to $720 the call center starts making calls for you. In addition at the $720 mark you have no website fees ( at the $69.95 level your site is $49.95 a month). Most of the groups offer websites on average at about $50 a month ( some more than that). If you look at your yearly cost that amounts to $600 so getting started at the $720 is an attractive option especially when you factor in having a group making calls for you.

    2- You make money right away

    As a new associate most are concerned with making back the money that they have invested to get started. With the Coastal Closing Center you make commission on your first sales. Yes right from your first sale you can make money. What could be better than that? We are all in business to make money and this gives a new person the opportunity to do just that. In addition the system is a 1up so its more conducive to becoming profitable faster. I see this as a truly innovative system

    3- This system maximizes your time

    Duplication is the key in most MLM's , direct sales and home based business opportunities. For many creating this duplications is a challenge. With most people that are looking to get started having prior obligations such as families and multiple jobs finding the time to make calls can be a challenge. With a call center you have a staff dedicated to making calls for you as well as your teammates. Now of course you can still make calls yourself and close deals on your own. Its like creating multiple profit centers.

    4- I believe in this system

    For the past 3 years I have been working the Coastal business opportunity. I have seen many systems and tried a bunch of them. My experience as a leader in this industry and the interaction I have had with the various other leaders has given me a nice perspective on how this business works. In my opinion to be successful you need to have a good lead source ( prospects to talk to ), a good way to deliver the info to those prospects ( making calls or sending emails ) and a method to follow up. The call center option in conjunction with working the business on your own does all of this. For this reason I believe in this system.

    So for new people looking at Coastal Vacations I encourage you to be at least open to investigating this option. Is it for everyone? Probably not. But it does create some amazing opportunities to become profitable faster, get started at less of an investment and create faster duplication. None of us can tell you what to do but I know that if I had known of this option when I first looked at Coastal it would have been a no-brainer to join it. You see in my first 7 weeks of starting in Coastal we made over 10k. Now this was the traditional way where we had to do two sales at level one then 2 at level two then 2 at level three to be level three qualified. I look back at the people we gave up on the way and understand if I had those people in my call center option it would be a windfall. So if you have questions you can air them here or contact me directly. But again I encourage you to take a look at this option.

    Adam Frederick
    Internet Entrepreneur + Coach
    302 613 4632
    [email protected]

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  2. faithhopelove

    faithhopelove New Member

    ateamfuntimer: In addition the system is a 1up so its more conducive to becoming profitable faster

    Hi Adam,
    I was under the impression that Coastal Vacations required 2up. Can you elaborate?
  3. mountainmom5

    mountainmom5 Gold Member

    ateamfuntimer: In addition the system is a 1up so its more conducive to becoming profitable faster. I see this as a truly innovative system

    Hey Adam - so how do you fill out their directors releases with only 1up? There are 2 spaces on the documents for the 2 training sales...

    If a person gets started at Platinum or Level 3 do you still require them to pass up 2 training sales at each level, or do they only have to pass up 1 sale at Platinum?
  4. ateamfuntimer

    ateamfuntimer New Member

    Thanks for the replies and I apologize for the slow response. For the past few weeks I have been involved in some great projects that will improve the way I can help anyone getting started in Coastal. So let me address a few questions.

    For years many of the groups have created specials to get people qualified and profitable. I remember Nitsa Nakos running a promotion where she made I believe it was over 30k in a matter of days by waiving a training sale and letting people get qualified with one sale. Now im not saying this is how the 1up system works but saying that the precedent has been set by many groups that have been extremely profitable in the past. In the past I have seen directors get associates qualified by using retail sales they have made and basically giving those names to the associate to qualify them. Another issue that has arise is a privacy issue. I for one dont want my information on a form that is distributed around the world and people having access to that info. Identity theft is a real issue.

    Now to address the other question. In the Coastal Closing Center when you get started at level 3 you are qualified at the lower levels ( level 2 + level 1). So its an incentive to come in higher. The same goes for coming in level 2. You start at level 2 and you are level 1 qualified.

    The goal is to get profitable. How many of you have had people QUIT because after buying the package, paying for leads and websites and waiting to get their 2 sales they are broke. Make people profitable quicker and they stick around. You build a stronger larger team and everyone wins.

    Adam Frederick
    Internet Coach and Entrepreneur
    302 613 4632
    [email protected]
  5. mountainmom5

    mountainmom5 Gold Member

    Thanks Adam - I know we can basically work our business whichever way we prefer but wasn't sure how you could get by with only one name on the release.

    Another way to help them is by helping them work their leads for awhile. You can do that in various ways as well.

    There are so many ways to run a Coastal business. That is just one of the beautiful things about it!
  6. closerjim

    closerjim Member

    Hi All,

    Here is the answer to a couple of questions about the "Up Sales"
    and the Directors Release.

    When someone joins us at any Director Level, you are empowered
    through the Center immediately to receive your Release with the
    simple purchase of your Director Level Entry with us.

    That is with our without the package by the way. So you could use
    the wholesale cost of the package(s) for marketing, etc. unless you
    really needed the package now.

    Your release says "Call For Details" on both the training sale lines
    on the release. Why? Because it did not take long for people to
    realize they did NOT want their name plastered all over the world
    as a "training sale" with their phone number on releases.

    So .. that works just fine.

    Then, in the Center, we no longer require "Pass Up" sales without
    pay. That just doesn't work today, when people need to make money
    and be earning NOW.

    So, we implemented an instant income system where sales are now
    split between the Director and new person.

    You can attend one of our web casts to have it all explained.

    Have a great week, all!
  7. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    Wow this Coastal vacations forum sure has changed since I was posting here last year.

    The obvious hype and sales pitches that are seen in this thread was never allowed before.

    Jim, yes I tried to sell Coastal packages, I used WCYS (NOTHING, NADA,ZERO!) to "close my sales" I paid a fee plus a monthly fee and they would not call my hot prospects the prospects had to call them, no one ever called them.

    I HAD my own site plus joined a few of the groups. Joining a group will not really sell more packages for you.

    With all the closing centers and groups the monthly fee is what made me quit. AND to have to pay a substantial fee up front is also unacceptable!

    I am also with GRN and now WCYS people are pitching GRN to "close their sales" huge setup fee and again huge monthly...
    again UNACCEPTABLE!

    So whats your speel Jim? Do you charge the exhorbitant setup fee plus a monthly? (anything over commission only is a exhorbitant fee!!!)

    And my friend Adam, see you are still hanging in there.

    Used to be if you offered the packages for less including and not limited to a 1up you were all but thrown out as a "traitor [​IMG]
    hmmmmm things they are a'changin....

    So the BOD is what MIA??

    Very interesting guys.... good to see you all again [​IMG]

    Terri
  8. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    closerjim: GRN as well as a couple other "we really sell travel like it should
    be and we're hot because of it" companies have had major major
    (did I say Major?) issues with their marketing approach .. meaning
    they have had trouble staying in business because of the legal
    issues they face.

    Hey Jim, I am with GRN what exactly do you mean by "legal issues we face" When making a claim like that I demand explanation of exactly what you mean!!

    Be extremely specific about the "legal issues GRN is facing.

    GRN is a travel membership and none of us (unless we really are travel agents) represent ourselves as a travel agent, unless they are also selling YTB or traverus, PLUS Coastal gives you the opp to be a "TA" !

    Terri
  9. closerjim

    closerjim Member

    Hi Terri,

    It's not unusual for the Distributors of a company to be unaware of
    issues going on with a company. It's not on their agenda to broadcast
    any issues like that to anyone.

    A source that was supplying leads to them told me of their issues and
    that's as far as I'm taking it.

    I appreciate your "demand" to know more. This is as "specific" as I
    will be as I'm not here to spend time talking about them beyond what
    I already said.

    WCYS ... of course they would not call your hot prospects. They don't
    do outbound calls. We do.

    No, we don't charge a monthly fee for the sites we give and tools.

    Yes, we charge a 1 time Sign Up Fee to pay the staff. Since we don't
    take commissions from Member Sales .. the staff have refused to
    work for free ... so there had to be a fee to pay them. Go figure.

    You're invited to attend one of our weekly Webcasts tues through
    thursday if you care to learn more. You can get set up by going to
    http://moreinfo.thecoastalclosers.com where you will see the dates
    times and how to download the web interface for the conf. room.

    The big focus is that we do not require the "Pass Up Sale with no Pay"
    any longer. There is a better way and in today's economy, putting
    money in your pocket FASTER (get paid on your first sale not third)
    is a great way to do that.

    Have a super weekend everyone ...
  10. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    Just for clarification,
    WCYS will call leads if you ask them to and they have been qualified which means they have said they do have start-up funds. I have also had them call opt ins just out of the blue without me asking them to do so.
  11. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    closerjim: It's not unusual for the Distributors of a company to be unaware of
    issues going on with a company. It's not on their agenda to broadcast
    any issues like that to anyone.

    A source that was supplying leads to them told me of their issues and
    that's as far as I'm taking it.

    I appreciate your "demand" to know more. This is as "specific" as I
    will be as I'm not here to spend time talking about them beyond what
    I already said.

    Jim,
    I too am a member of GRN and would really like to know what you are talking about. I would think it was strange for a person selling leads to have inside info on a company they are doing business with and noone else actually in the company knows about it. I do know that GRN has lawyers that have to approve EVERY MOVE they make as far as promotion, pay plan, and systems and anything else they do. They are above board on ALL counts. The WCYS team had to go through a MAJOR pain-staking process to get their version of the call center up and running for GRN. It had to be approved by GRN cooporate and their lawyers and that was not an easy process. They are very particular about what happens with their company and strive to make sure that it is legal and fair to all.

    Some may ask why a staunch Coastal person like me is also in GRN. It's because I want to offer my people options. Coastal is VERY different than GRN. GRN is completely online and has NO voucher system. I personally like the vouchers in CV and have used them before. They are great for fundraising and promoting your CV business or any other business. But for people who just want to go online and book a stay, GRN is great. Both companies are totally different and should be promoted that way. I was reluctan to even post anything about GRN in here since this is the Coastal area but since it was brought up in this negative way I felt I needed to post this. Jim, please produce your evidence if you actually have any.
  12. closerjim

    closerjim Member

    Hi Harold,

    I appreciate your post and questions.

    First, with GRN, the lead provider shared with me that GRN hit a
    "snag" (layman's term for legal issues) over Distributors representing
    themselves as "Travel Agents" to the vendors of the vacations GRN
    offers.

    How he came to be informed, was because of direct dealings with
    the affected individuals.

    What many people are not aware of, is "sharing" or being a "sub-
    agent" is NOT viewed as a bona fide Travel Agent by many providers
    of vacation destinations. And ... they aren't. They didn't go through
    the training, have not booked the travel required to earn the min.
    amount of travel commissions and those providers got their back
    up about it, causing actions against GRN.

    Clearly, that's not what GRN wanted and they have since taken
    measures to clear it up. Which would include educating their
    Distributor force as carefully as possible, without causing issues
    over it.

    I own a company (The Coastal Closers) and I've been with
    companies holding leadership positions... and no, they do NOT make
    announcements of this sort of thing to their distributor force.

    I do appreciate the "just go online and book it" approach. We have
    had that available through The Coastal Closers FREE OF CHARGE
    through our own online Travel Agency and those that want to be
    in the pay stream, can do so for $400 and $49 a month.

    You share in the travel commissions, people get awesome deals
    and it goes well with our Coastal sales.

    Our product expert pointed out GRN is basically using one of the
    Level III Coastal Package components ... ie: the travel agency that
    does the online booking for the L3 package and are simply reselling
    that under the GRN Marketing name. That's fine too. We just chose
    to use a different booking house for that service as it was easier
    and less expensive.

    Coastal has a huge advantage and is one of the last of their type
    in this one regard. By maintaining their way of doing business, as
    a supplier of product to Directors, rather than having the "Distributor"
    relationship with people ... they remain insulated from issues that
    a Distributor can bring on a company.

    Meaning, if you have been around for awhile, all it takes is one
    person saying or acting the wrong way and they can cause an
    entire company to be shut down while it's "sorted out" and fixed.

    Coastal doesn't have that problem because we are not Distributors
    with a contract with a company. I appreciate that myself.

    If you have had WCYS call leads for you on an outbound basis, you
    can count yourself as fortunate. We have many former WCYS people
    who have not enjoyed such treatment and they don't post that
    they will do this in any text I've seen.

    With that ... let's have a super weekend!
  13. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    closerjim: First, with GRN, the lead provider shared with me that GRN hit a
    "snag" (layman's term for legal issues) over Distributors representing
    themselves as "Travel Agents" to the vendors of the vacations GRN
    offers.

    How he came to be informed, was because of direct dealings with
    the affected individuals.

    What many people are not aware of, is "sharing" or being a "sub-
    agent" is NOT viewed as a bona fide Travel Agent by many providers
    of vacation destinations. And ... they aren't. They didn't go through
    the training, have not booked the travel required to earn the min.
    amount of travel commissions and those providers got their back
    up about it, causing actions against GRN.

    Jim,
    GRN makes it VERY CLEAR that any of their affiliates are NOT travel agents. The membership we sell is associated with a travel agency who does all of the booking for us and has the website that we do online booking with.

    You mentioned "vendors of the vacations GRN
    offers." GRN doesn't offer "Vacations" so to speak like Coastal does. We do not have "Vendors" of vacations. We have the one travel agency that we use for everything. You choose an area of the world you want to go to and then look at the resorts that are available in that location. If you want it you book it or you let them book it for you.

    The travel agent requirements don't apply to us simply because we aren't travel agents and don't pretend to be. At least not the people I'm associated with. There is no reason to be because we are not booking trips for others. It sounds like you are getting your info from an unreliable source that doesn't know what he or she is talking about. It's always good practice to verify rumors before posting them in a public forum.
  14. hsimpsonjr

    hsimpsonjr Silver Member

    closerjim: Our product expert pointed out GRN is basically using one of the
    Level III Coastal Package components ... ie: the travel agency that
    does the online booking for the L3 package and are simply reselling
    that under the GRN Marketing name.

    Jim,
    I know for a fact that Coastal does not use the same "Booking agent" for the level 3 package. GRN has EXCLUSIVE rights to this company in the USA so your info is wrong there, too. If anyone has any questions to the validity of this statement please message me or email me and I will gladly tell you who GRN represents. It's always best to get your info from someone in the program and I am in both Coastal and GRN and can tell you about both. Both have GREAT points and i like to exploit those points for my members.
  15. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    closerjim: Our product expert pointed out GRN is basically using one of the
    Level III Coastal Package components ... ie: the travel agency that
    does the online booking for the L3 package and are simply reselling
    that under the GRN Marketing name. That's fine too. We just chose
    to use a different booking house for that service as it was easier
    and less expensive.

    WHAT???

    WHO is using a "booking agent" and reselling it under GRN?
    .

    Terri
  16. luvtravel

    luvtravel New Member

    ateamfuntimer: Lower start-up cost

    You can get started for as low as $69.95. At this price even those that want to "test" the waters can afford to get started. At this price you don't have the closers at the call center kick in until you make at least one sales but if you up your investment to $720 the call center starts making calls for you. In addition at the $720 mark you have no website fees ( at the $69.95 level your site is $49.95 a month). Most of the groups offer websites on average at about $50 a month ( some more than that). If you look at your yearly cost that amounts to $600 so getting started at the $720 is an attractive option especially when you factor in having a group making calls for you.


    The $720 version is NOT COASTAL vacations!

    Terri
  17. closerjim

    closerjim Member

    Good Morning To All Readers,

    Hope everyone had a great Memorial Day Weekend.

    $720 is NOT Coastal Vacations ... that's very true. What it is, is the
    lowest entry level for The Coastal Closers.

    At that level, a person can start who doesn't have the funds to start
    with the Level 1 Package and wants to get the wheels of commerce
    turning ... with their own built in Sales Team.

    We make it as easy as possible to get going and start earning.

    Since this isn't the GRN board, I won't respond further to the chatter
    on it here. The source I heard my info from was reliable. GRN has
    handled the issues that had come up from what I can see (since you
    are still in business) and that's a good thing, as it doesn't help the
    industry at all when "bad things happen to good companies" as the
    say.



    There's a lot of ways to go. The best way is the one that works for
    you and that's what we're all about here.

    Success is a journey ... with the destination bringing a moment of
    reflection before we realize, we miss the journey.
  18. nestea411

    nestea411 New Member

    Hi Adam,

    I have been trying to contact you for awhile. I will be joining at the middle of this month and signed up for info on your website. Please email me any info in relation to getting started with Coastal Closers. Thank you.
  19. closerjim

    closerjim Member

    Hello "Nestea"....

    When you're ready, please holler at me via the private message
    or send me a message so I know who you actually are and see
    that you're helped.

    Adam has had family issues come up (moved, etc) and has been
    out of pocket for a bit.

    The great news? That's why we are here!

    BIG BIG NEWS ... we have just adapted Funtime Vacations (who is
    a major part of the Coastal Vacations Level I Package) as our primary
    lead provider (they specialize in a great lead program) for our Member.

    More on that when we visit.

    Thanks ... looking forward to working with you!
  20. closerjim

    closerjim Member

    Hi Again Nestea,

    I just found your Profile here, Vanessa ... will post a note in your
    record on our end to have you contacted late this week.

    They will be able to walk you through getting started.

    Thanks ..

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