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ZriiProsper
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#81 · Posted: 8 Feb 2010 17:33 · Edited by: ZriiProsper
TJamMoneyMan: ZriiProsper: Nothing personal, TJ. It's just that you're perpetuating the act of preying on the poor and under-informed. TJamMoneyMan: You simply don't know what you are talking about. You have not visited the site. You have not asked someone who knows about the ECG structure. You are LYING!
Not lying. From your website: "This is the least expensive program on the market. If you are looking for a way to improve your financial situation and turn your life around, then you have come to the right place!" and "The high price entry fees disqualify many people from joining your team as a partner. How many people do you know can start with $100 - $200 or even as much as $1000? How many could start with only $5.00 measly dollars?"
Statements like those target the poorest of people.
ZriiProsper:
It's even worse than a typical pyramid. You need to "upgrade" how do you do that?
TJamMoneyMan:
You only need to upgrade, when someone gives YOU a 'gift'.
And that is only if the person wants to upgrade beyond your level.
The payment/gift you get will pay for your upgrade.
So if this is the case, the only way to actually make money is to get your account all the way to the $1,000 gifting level, right? Then you can start taking money out without actually risking losing your gifts to your upline, am I correct?
How long does this process take? And if that is the case then you're not actually making money during the many months if ever it takes to get your personal referrals to the $1,000 level.
ZriiProsper:
Also you must inform the other individual of their gift - this just makes it so some people either forget this step or the receiver doesn't collect leaving more money in the kitty to pay out the early ones in the pyramid.
TJamMoneyMan:
You do NOT inform ANYONE of ANY gift.
You CAN NOT inform anyone of any gift.
Not through that website's gifting process (though, being a free individual under the US Constitution, you can email anyone with any information you like. You can also send messages to your down/upline.)
However informing ANYONE of a gift received is completely unnecessary and a waste of time:
The website automatically will tell you if someone is ready to upgrade beyond your level, AFTER giving you a payment at your current level.
From your website: "Once you have sent the payment of $10 to your inviter it is their responsibility to notify the recipient."
TJamMoneyMan: You are free to let that gift pass to your sponsor if you like.
You can make a gift payment to your sponsor, and then receive the gift that would have otherwise gone to your sponsor.
The only cost will be one HALF of the gift.
Since two gifts will PAY for your upgrade, you can just wait for another gift if you like, and the upgrade will be cost free.
ZriiProsper:
Please explain to me how this or any gifting program/matrix is not a ponzi type scheme.
TJamMoneyMan: First do something about your ignorance.
You obviously don't even know the difference between pyramid and ponzi.
And you haven't taken the time to view the EzyCashgifts site to learn how it's structured.
I've probably taken more time than I should have to view the structure. It's no different than any other matrix. It's the airplane. You collect money and pass it up. Then you move up a level and collect money and pass it up. It's a money scheme. Pyramid, Airplane, Theater all the same.
ZriiProsper:
Less money goes in and more money goes out to the earliest/best scammers.
TJamMoneyMan: Another ignorant statement.
You just won't take the time to research what you are talking about.
And you don't have the humility to ask a question when you don't know.
See above.
ZriiProsper:
What happens if new people don't come into the system?
TJamMoneyMan: New people don't come into 'the system'.
They only become a part of YOUR individual downline.
If you don't get referrals, you don't get paid.
But that has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone else's earnings.
So exactly like I said, if new people don't come into your "downline" then you don't get paid.
ZriiProsper:
You telling me that EZYCASHGIFTS is a member of DSA???
TJamMoneyMan: DSA is a assurance organization that many non-income producing MLM's belong to. Like AMWAY and MELALEUCA for example.
We all know how many folks are dissatisfied with these two MLM's.
And if folks would take their complaints about these MLM's to DSA, perhaps some good would come of it. If only to get their DSA status removed.
ECG is NOT an MLM!
WHY should it be part of an MLM assurance organization?
Because it has a product right? Because you say it is completely legal and a way of leasing a website and sharing electronic products. If it has legitimate products and you are using terms like "downline" borrowed from MLM, why not go ahead and apply to the DSA.
ZriiProsper:
you're not selling a thing besides some crap computer program to keep regulators from ending your pyramid scam.
TJamMoneyMan: What is being sold, along with various eproducts, is a website plan that you can sell to others for the SOLE cost of $5.
ALL of your earnings will come from the sale/lease of this website to others.
AND, to get folks to upgrade to the higher levels, I DO offer specials, products and deals at discounted prices. Anyone can do this. This is in addition to the products offered through the website itself. Products that are continually being upgraded, increased, and improved.
There is no "computer program" involved whatsoever.
Further proof of your ignorance in this matter.
More from your website: "EzyCashGifts provides Instant Access to digital products as soon as your account activated! Every time a partner upgrades their membership access is granted to an increased quantity and value of new products. There are over 60 resalable e-books and software available for our members when they enter the system."
Finally, having a product to sell, in no way negates the scam that is a Pyramid scheme.
TJamMoneyMan: I have posted that information in this thread and yet you remain blissfully ignorant.
ZriiProsper:
It's just that you're perpetuating the act of preying on the poor and under-informed.
TJamMoneyMan: YOU are the one who is 'under-informed' here.
Unlike NarcThatCar however, I am ready to completely explain anything about EzyCashGifts you are 'under-informed' about.
But you ARE talking to someone who is well read and thoroughly experienced in the realm of health, and health related products.
And I can assure you, not ONE of them has proven themselves.
Zrii is LYING if they make any weight loss claims.
It just will not happen, if you don't change your diet and exercise.
NO product will do it for you.
They don't even help.
Ok, if Zrii is lying how can this happen.
TJamMoneyMan: But feel free to scam the masses about Zrii having some special health giving powers, and weight loss effectiveness.
You can't prove any of it though.
Never mind the DSA.
Try to sell your weigh-loss/health snake oil to the FDA, and let me know what THEY have to say!
One of the biggest billion dollar scams in the USA today is the weight loss industry.
And yet we are the FATTEST group of people on the planet today!
Once again, you duck the hard questions and try to deflect you being on the hot seat for scamming people. You come across as legitimately wanting to help others, but once I realized what you were really doing, I have to point this stuff out.
FreeCashMan:
Who Dat trying to put Narc That Car down, Who Dat,
Who Dat trying to say Nacr That Car is an illegal pyramid scheme, Who Dat,
who Dat spreading mis-information to keep others from prospering, Who Dat,
Who Dat, trying to putting out a bunch of "hate" about Narc That Car, Who Dat,
Who Dat!
Who Dat!
Who Dat!
Saints equals Winner!
Narc That Car Opportunity equals Winner!
Real informative post there FreeCashMan!
I agree with this. As this is just dumb. Really? You get exposed FreeCashMan and all you can do is say that because the Saints won the Superbowl it means that your company isn't a scam.
For more information on how not to get arrested and or sued by participating in cash gifting see the cash gifting watchdog.
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#82 · Posted: 8 Feb 2010 18:42 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
It's really amazing how some persons will come on this thread to cast dispersion in order to try an uplift there biz opportunities. This is why I'm not engaging in direct responses to these silly long comment word art tactics of those that have made it their business to try and repeatedly exspouse lies, misrepresentations, inaccuracies, and/or incomplete information in an attempt to make something true that isn't, while trying to appear to "carefully" dissect someone else's "argument.
I've contributed more Actual facts about Narc That Car than most could find anywhere else on the internet, this thread is now on 5 pages and my post definitively speak for themselves for those that take the time to read them. I post facts that are not guesses appearing to be facts. And I'm clearly a serious cheerleader for the business opportunity, no shame in that for me. I've got 15 years of knowledge and experience in network marketing, I'm not just blowing smoke in making a full commitment to excel with this business.
And on occasion, new people here, you see me post some humorous stuff, at least to me. I'm having fun, I'm making money working from home, I'm truly training and showing others how to do the same, and I've been blessed to be part of a group that has direct connects to getting the Real info on narc that car from Actually speaking with some top people in the Corporate office at the building that Narc That Car owns, not rent/lease (another sign of a company that doesn't have scam on their agenda).
So Who Dat trying to put Narc That Car down and don't know what their taking about, Who Dat!
Live, Love, Laugh!
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#83 · Posted: 8 Feb 2010 19:43 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
ZriiProsper: Not lying. From your website: "This is the least expensive program on the market. If you are looking for a way to improve your financial situation and turn your life around, then you have come to the right place!" and "The high price entry fees disqualify many people from joining your team as a partner. How many people do you know can start with $100 - $200 or even as much as $1000? How many could start with only $5.00 measly dollars?" Statements like those target the poorest of people.
So?
Just because something is inexpensive, that doesn't mean it "targets the poorest of people".
Not in the sense that 'target' refers to taking advantage of anyone like you are suggesting here.
Inexpensive products will have an appeal to those on a limited budget.
There's nothing wrong or scamful about that.
That's what Dollar stores do.
Brooks Brothers, Sharper Image, and Saks Fifth Ave. 'target' the richest of people.
That's marketing my friend.
ZriiProsper: So if this is the case, the only way to actually make money is to get your account all the way to the $1,000 gifting level, right? Then you can start taking money out without actually risking losing your gifts to your upline, am I correct?
No, you are NOT correct.
You can receive as many gifts as you like at any level: $5, $10, $25, $50, $100, $250, $500, $1000.
You don't 'take out money' - it is paid DIRECTLY to your Paypal, Alertpay, or choice of about 8 other pay processors.
Any one who will makes a payment on any particular level will have to pay at EACH of the earlier levels.
So anyone who is ready to make a $100 payment to you, for example, will already have given you a total of $90. PLUS the $100 payment he/she is about to make which will amount to $190 total.
And don't forget, you will have been getting the same payments from EACH of your other referrals who choose to upgrade.
I.E:
With less than average marketing skills, soon you will easily get about 20 or 30 payees at the $5 entry level for example.
You will also accrue payments up to $190 for each person who gets to the $100 level as per the above example.
If you want to remain at the $5 or $10 level and collect only those payments, that too is your choice.
But it would only make sense to take about 3 of those payments and go up to the $25 level - when the time comes.
But that would ONLY make sense, if you have many referrals at the $5 and $10 level.
BUT that still is NOT EVEN NECESSARY, until one of those $10 members is ready to make a $25 payment.
You, if you are only at the $10 level, will be notified that someone is ready to gift above your level.
You will then have a chance to pay your sponsor $25 and INSTANTLY RECEIVE $25 AS a sponsor.
That $25 you pay your sponsor, will come from all of the $5 and $10 payments you have already received.
You will also have ALREADY received $15 from the $10 referralee - the $5 entry fee, and the first upgrade that got that referral to the $10 level.
In short, it truly does pay for itself.
You only have to start with $5, which you will get back with your very first referral.
ZriiProsper: How long does this process take? And if that is the case then you're not actually making money during the many months if ever it takes to get your personal referrals to the $1,000 level.
As pointed out above, you will get money from each and every one of your referrals who upgrade.
They will upgrade at their own pace as they too get THEIR OWN referrals - or whenever they want to.
You will continue to make money at the $5 level as you get new referrals.
You will make money at each of those payment levels (NOT mlm levels!) as your referrals upgrade.
ZriiProsper: ZriiProsper: Also you must inform the other individual of their gift - this just makes it so some people either forget this step or the receiver doesn't collect leaving more money in the kitty to pay out the early ones in the pyramid. TJamMoneyMan: You do NOT inform ANYONE of ANY gift. You CAN NOT inform anyone of any gift. Not through that website's gifting process (though, being a free individual under the US Constitution, you can email anyone with any information you like. You can also send messages to your down/upline.) [quote=ZriiProsper]From your website: "Once you have sent the payment of $10 to your inviter it is their responsibility to notify the recipient."
Yes this is confusing.
I did give the wrong answer too!
But not completely.
You simply enter the payment processor transaction number into the dialogue box. The website will then AUTOMATICALLY notify your sponsor that you have made a gift.
ALSO, that sponsor's pay processor will AUTOMATICALLY notify the sponsor that he has been paid.
YOU do nothing (but follow directions in the payment process).
Just like when you make a payment through a pay processor.
ECG does the notification on your behalf.
Entering the pay processor trans. # is your only responsibility, as far as "notifying the recepient" is goes.
Believe me when I say, it's very simple.
You just follow directions.
Everything is automated.
And, there is NO 'kitty':
ZriiProsper: Also you must inform the other individual of their gift - this just makes it so some people either forget this step or the receiver doesn't collect leaving more money in the kitty to pay out the early ones in the pyramid.
The receiver collects INSTANTLY to his own pay processor.
There is NO 'kitty'!!
No 'early ones in the pyramid' collect money from ANYONE.
You ONLY collect from your own DIRECT referrals.
ZriiProsper: you are using terms like "downline" borrowed from MLM
ZriiProsper: ECG is NOT an MLM! WHY should it be part of an MLM assurance organization? Because it has a product right? Because you say it is completely legal and a way of leasing a website and sharing electronic products. If it has legitimate products and you are using terms like "downline" borrowed from MLM, why not go ahead and apply to the DSA.
Because, every website that offers a product is not necessarily an MLM!
By 'downline' here I am referring to ONLY your DIRECT REFERRALS.
You get NOTHING from your referrals downline members.
There is NO residual income.
There is NO matrix.
There is NO pyramid.
ZriiProsper: Once again, you duck the hard questions and try to deflect you being on the hot seat for scamming people.
What question have I left unanswered?
Show some ETHICS!
Where have I scammed anyone?
Where have I lied about this plan?
Don't accuse people of illegal acts without proof.
This post has become entirely too long for this thread, but that was because I was trying to answer each one of your questions truthfully and factually.
I am not lying.
I am not scamming.
Otherwise, please take your questions about ECG to the ECG thread.
This is not the place to discuss ECG, or cash gifting.
And get some information that EVERYONE hasn't already heard about - I mean CASH GIFTING WATCHDOG?
REALLY!!!
Maybe that will prevent what you and I both agree are totally dumb statements like the one FreeCashMan just made earlier.
FreeCashMan: I've contributed more Actual facts about Narc That Car than most could find anywhere else on the internet, this thread is now on 5 pages
This thread is 5 pages long and I don't believe you have posted even 5 facts of your own volition.
The only thing you have been trying to do here is get folx to hear the NarcThatCar speil.
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#84 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 01:42
To those genuinely research this opportunity to see if is one you want to take advantage of to potentially enhance you monthly residual cash flow here is a post with some factual details that can help:
Cash For Writing Down License Plates (Narcthatcar) - Page 2
With a long thread like this and much back and forth conversations certain particulars can get lost that really get down to the preliminary details you may want to know to decide if you want to move forward and get a more complete understanding of the business opportunity.
Cheers 
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#85 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 03:07
FreeCashMan: here is a post with some factual details that can help: http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/reviews-14/cash-for-writing-down-license-plates-narcthatcar -16253-2.html#msg112086
A few facts presented only after much badgering.
I actually had to present those facts first, as I gathered from the phone/webinar.
Then you finally offered the 'correct' information.
Very limited, but your first and only 'factual post' in this thread so far.
You are still pretty much posting less than one fact per page!
Just to set the record straight.
But at least you stopped with the double posts, and enticement statements of earnings.
Again, after my and pointing those things out.
NOT of your own volition.
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#86 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 10:02
TJamMoneyMan
TJam what exactly is it that you do? You have waisted more time trying to figure out what is so wrong with then actually looking into what this is all about. Mcdonald's is a pyramid so are they illegal to?
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#87 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 16:22 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
nerol72: TJam what exactly is it that you do?
A big part of what I do is INVESTIGATE offers like these.
nerol72: You have waisted more time trying to figure out what is so wrong with then actually looking into what this is all about.
Investigating offers will save you lots of money AND time so I have not 'waisted' even one second here.
Of course, one person asked me a very long and extended series of questions about something completely unrelated to this thread.
I answered the questions, because that is also what I do.
I then informed him that the question was irrelevant to this thread.
Maybe I should have done that first, but the questioner had posted a tremendous amount of misinformation about my business. So I feel justified in setting the record straight, in the same thread that he spread the misinformation.
I tried to find out 'what this is all about' from the originator of this thread, but if you look through this thread, you will see that he was totally unwilling to divulge any information about this 'simple business'.
What you can't get from these posts is that there was NO information available other than attending telephone/webinars. The websites CHANGED over time, as websites CAN do. At first they had some preliminary price information which I posted about. Then they became nothing more than a multi-paged lead capture page, that gave no information about this offer whatsoever. NOW they have PDF's which explain a little bit about the offer.
Why they can't simply post text on their website which you don't have to download in order to view is suspicious to me.
This is such a simple business after all. Why not simply tell us what it's all about? It's definitely not about making money by just writing down license plate numbers!
If this was such a simple business, like any other poster, the originator of this thread could have told us exactly, and in no uncertain terms, 'what this is all about'. But he chose the route of posting, and double posting ad copy, along within inducements of large amounts income supposedly earned by others. I called him on it, and he subsequently ceased his blatant ad copy postings.
There is plenty of useful information in other forums and blogs about this and very little of it is good news about NarcThatCar. I advise you yourself to look into 'what this is all about'.
nerol72: Mcdonald's is a pyramid so are they illegal to?
You should also look into what PYRAMIDS are all about. When they are legal and useful, like McDonalds. And when they are among the most damaging scams on the web, like this one appears to be.
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#88 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 17:43
One of the unfortunate things about the internet is that people can hide behind their lies and misrepresentations and keep on rolling as long as they have an internet connection. They get free reign to say things that most would not say to a person face. And very often some people are so skilled in their word art that they can make false seen real to the untrained eye.
Anyone looking to get true complete information should not limit themselves to what they see on any internet forum, blog etc. They should take the time to get in contact with person(s) that can provide the complete details to appropriately valuate things.
As always I've made myself available and without requiring someone to opt into my website. The one who falsely attempts to accuse me of not doing "what he says I should be doing properly" in discussing this business and posting on this thread/forum failed to explain this undeniable fact. Which appears to be all in a light to only serve a vain and negative purpose that has no meritorious value.
Some of you may not know how to send private messages, but you do so by clicking on the person name on the left and sending a message as noted at the top of the page. Just put in the persons id name to send a direct message to that person. This is another way of contacting a person directly.
In fact the one who has now sought to be known as an as an investigator did this, and asked me to call him about this business to learn more, and I did but he never followed back up and then went on a void of merit tirade of comments about information that were either out right lies, misrepresentations, incomplete or inaccurate. And worst chose to keep such things up when he had direct access to get better information. But some people intentions of "helping" are only done in twisted ways to paint a certain negative unwarranted image.
I can only hope that those that are looking for a genuine opportunity and don't want a biz opp that requires them to sell, try, switch, or use products will do their own review of this business to see if it is right for them. I can't spend an excessive amount of time repeatedly squashing peoples "hate"especially when they are promoting their own biz opportunities that are network marketing structured and could easily fit the bill of what they are attempting to say about Narc That Car.
Fact is for those that have chosen to opt-in to my website, not only by law do you have a link to unsubscribe at will in any message you receive, but more importantly you get access to up to an accurate up to date presentation and information about this business from someone who Knows what they are talking about.
Let me close on this. Our Group leaders spent 5 hours at corporate office the other week completing further due diligence about this company. Information that most would not have access to, or an understand of, that are posting all these negative comments across the internet, which mind you are equally countered by positive comments, of how this business is some sort of scam.
If you are looking for a reason not to do anything you will find it, and if you are looking for reason to do something you will find it.
What you often want find is someone that will be real and straight up with you. True you don't know me from 'Adam' but I think the information that I can share with you about this grand business, which plenty of appropriate info is posted in this thread, that may take you some time to read, is even more detailed, and more importantly untainted by unknowledgeable people, and won't interfere with you making your own wise decision.
Am I extremely enthusiastic about this business you better believe it, for justified reason that relate to my 15 years of network marketing experience. But know that, "at the end of the day" I can't sell you on doing this business opportunity. It is one that you will either "See It & Seize It" or you won't.
Fact is there isn't a legitimate network marketing business opportunity that has come forth that is not accused of being a scam, illegal pyramid, ponzi, etc. It is the way of the world, but such has never stopped those opportunities that were able to "deliver" life changing financial results for many of its participants from forging ahead and continuing their success. So as you search around the net for information don't expect to NOT find naysayers for a myriad of reasons.
You are here, most likely, because you are looking for a viable home business opportunity that you hope will provide you additional income and more. If so then do yourself a favor and get appropriate information, and make contact with someone, that can help you make a full complete educated decision without unsubstantiated rants of what this business is or is not.
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#89 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 18:23
This Sounds Like a good program
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#90 · Posted: 9 Feb 2010 22:43 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: One of the unfortunate things about the internet is that people can hide behind their lies and misrepresentations and keep on rolling as long as they have an internet connection. They get free reign to say things that most would not say to a person face. And very often some people are so skilled in their word art that they can make false seen real to the untrained eye.
All you really need to do is answer questions right here in this thread, instead of making it so people have to opt-in to an email campaign, or attend telephone/webinars to get what you call "the full story".
You should be able to explain this business fully, if it's so simple, given all the time and words you put into posting ad copy (previously, mainly), and this extended post, instead of claiming you don't have time to waste answering questions.
If there was a website that explained things clearly, when this topic began, you wouldn't have had to deal with so much flack.
The problems you are having here with people posting things begins with YOU my friend.
No need to blame anyone else.
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#91 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 12:31
Jah or do you prefer to be called FreeCashMan?
Are you not the same person who was fined by the Supreme Court for practicing Law without a license?
Perhaps that is something you have failed to tell your future clients.
Since you claim to know so much about NarcThatCar and its operations then I am sure that the Attorney General Greg Abbott of Texas would like to talk with you since he is now investigating Narc That Car and the people like yourself who promote it.
You can call people haters or whatever you want but what you and many like you are afraid of the most is that the truth concerning these type of scams and all the lies that are proven wrong will drive people away.
If you want to discuss this further you may contact me or anyone else that wants to know the truth about you and Narc That Car:
850.421.5791
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#92 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 12:50
Investigator: Are you not the same person who was fined by the Supreme Court for practicing Law without a license?
huh?
Investigator: Since you claim to know so much about NarcThatCar and its operations then I am sure that the Attorney General Greg Abbott of Texas would like to talk with you since he is now investigating Narc That Car
Whoa....
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#93 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:07
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what do you not understand about my post if I may ask?
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#94 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:10
Perhaps this will help you understand my post:
Ajamu Kafele.
A man by the same name, in the same Ohio county and city and at the same street address listed in the Cash For Car Plates domain-registration was charged civilly earlier this decade with practicing law without a license. Jah has neither confirmed nor denied he is the same person.
The Ohio Supreme Court ruled in 2006 that Ajamu Kafele had engaged in the unauthorized practice of law in a banking and mortgage-foreclosure case involving a third party, and assessed him a $1,000 civil penalty.
Kafele was enjoined by the Supreme Court from further unauthorized practice of law.
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#95 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:15
Investigator: mountainmom what do you not understand about my post if I may ask?
That was a "huh???" for FreeCashMan... hoping he'd come on and explain himself.
I don't participate much in arguing over opportunities as they usually get exposed with time and I am not quick on bashing folks... it all comes out in the wash.
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#96 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:35
If bashing is the word you want to use then that is ok by me. I call it telling the truth compared to a lie. I believe that everyone that gets involved with any company should know who they are dealing with and the REAL truth and not the many lies that they use to fish people into their game.
Narc That Car has made numerous claims of being associated with the Amber Alert System as well as having contracts with the Big Three Auto Makers and those statements have been proven to also be a lie.
Jah or FreeCashMan was asked many questions concerning Narc That Car which he claims he knows all about and refused to answer any of them.
You can read all about it at: http://www.PatrickPretty.com
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#97 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:35
Are you unclear, confused, or just want straight answers and facts about the Narc That Car Opportunity?
We'll we setup another Live Question and Answer Call for Sunday 2/14/2010 at 9:30pm Eastern: "Get The Facts On Narc That Car"
We welcome all questions and they can be submitted ahead of time, preferably, as this will help us to address as many questions/concerns as possible.
We want to make sure people have the facts and proper information to know if they want to pursue this Grand Opportunity.
You can get direct links for info on the Live Call by sending me a Private message or accessing information at one of my websites.
General link can't be posted here per the forum rules of posting personal links in messages. (Also note I'm not under anyone's directive to post as others think I should, as I've made mention of several times) I'm readily able and willing to assist anyone in making a fully informed educated decision.
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#98 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:42
FreeCashMan
You have failed to answer the original question. Are you Jah?
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#99 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 14:16 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
If a person(s) wants to comment for the purpose of expressing "I hate mlm/narc that car, etc" , save your breath as to me. Not going to engage in such silly hater stuff. I'm fully willing to discuss this business opportunity and how I see it and the information I know and understand and the related facts about it.
If you think such things as a civil action about a foreclosure matter that bears no relation will discredit me, or more importantly cause others to not want to pursue this business then you are free to post that public information, and others can decide. First I'm not the owner or executive of Narc That Car, so your attempt to supposedly expose something you see as negative about me has no bearing as it relates to this great business opportunity.
I've got an establish background of people that I've helped and trained to succeed with marketing their business opportunities online, over the past 3 years. Who I am, what I do and what I've done in truly helping people is beyond something you could remotely know about me.
Of course you wouldn't know that because you don't know me and only know subjective public info. There is nothing to explain as to that civil action because it flat out has nothing to do with this opportunity or my involvement with it and there is no connection, notwithstanding you don't know the actual facts of the matter, but then they don't matter. I can't hide something this is public information, like our license plates so what could possibly be your point! Simply spreading what is termed where I'm from as "hating on a Brother, or person."
Is it that Narc That Car has made all these claims you alleged or independent consultants that perhaps have not quite properly promoted their enthusiasm for this business. (a careful reading of you headline comments on this make it clear that this is something that promoters of Narc were/are doing, but you are skilled in the word art game to the untrained eye, and make it seem like it is actually Narc That Car themselves).
Fact is Narc That Car is working to establish a relationship where by their database could be freely used by Amber Alert. This was stated in an interview by the CEO. Where the status of that relationship is at this point hasn't been made known. But it is true they plan to offer their database service to Amber Alert. Which I think could potentially serve great benefit.
As to answering your questions on your blog/site. As you so eloquently refuse to make known here, because it is what guys like you do in order to share twisted info in the name of "helping" people. I stated that I would not engage in continuing to comment on your blog because of the massive negative energy and one man's apparent sanctuary of "I hate mlm". But moreover, I stated, you knew how to get in touch with me and could do so and get my responses. Sorry you aren't my Daddy, I don't need to come to you and answer your questions. But in that same line, I haven't refused, I just refused to hang out in your negative energy den.
You questions are nothing that I fear or will refuse not to address.
At this point you can submit your questions and they will be address on the up coming call. It's open to all. But I can tell you this. If you can't come with respectfulness and at least be cordial, don't come. We can disagree but it needs to be respectful especially when what we say is impacting others evaluation of this business.
You are free to express how you feel about this business, just like me, but I'm not a lover of intentional lies, misrepresentations and twisted commentary that is supposedly done to help people but is really one man's vindictive actions. In your house(blog/site) and open forums, as long as you have an internet connection you can carry on as you see fit, but people are not as stupid as some persons make people out to be when analyzing information, especially when they can't get proper and complete information to make a wise decision.
And as to the Attorney general, again another case of people like you twisting information to share in a negative light that only fits your vindictiveness. Fact is it is standard procedure for any Atty Generals office to investigate inquires about citizens concerned if a business opportunity they maybe interested in is not engaged in purposeful scamming of citizens out of their money. The Texas Atty General as he stated in the news article is NOT engaged into a criminal investigation of Narc That Car but specifically focused on addressing their inquiries, and Narc That Car has willingly and openly agreed to discuss the matter with the AG, and heck he can call me as well. I fear God, not Man. Fact is that Narc That Car hired, per the CEO's own statements, to the press 2 top highly experience network marketing law firms, one that assisted Amway in legal matters, in establishing their network marketing portion of their business.
So let's not try and come here and make one liner sound "bits" and make it seem like the Texas AG has flagged Narc That Car as a scam, or more important ever will. See such things are just pure unwarranted, void of merit and truly none helpful comments that can only be construed and hating on Narc That Car without cause.
It's not like these people are contacting the AG because they lost money with the Narc That Car business opportunity like the illegal ponzi Ad Surf Daily, which you and others try to equate Narc That Car too. Those to business don't even fit in the same line of thinking and moreover and very important the "Spirit" or operaton of the Narc That Car Opportunity isn't anything remotely like ASD where ASD was telling people to, and they unfortunately did, send in thousands upon thousands.
I am Jah!
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#100 · Posted: 10 Feb 2010 16:42 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: We'll we setup another Live Question and Answer Call for Sunday 2/14/2010 at 9:30pm Eastern: "Get The Facts On Narc That Car"
Let's just answer these things here in writing.
That's the way business is done.
If this is so simple, just write down an answer for all to see.
So many times promoters will say things, PM or email statements, and since there's no WRITTEN record, they can later claim they said differently.
The question was put here in the forum. In writing.
It's fair to expect an answer in the same manner, in the same place.
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