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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 5 May 2008 18:59
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happywife: ...but I'll send you a PM with more information. I've explained it in detail several times already in this forum, and I don't want to take over this thread since it is supposed to be referring to GDI.
TRUE,
and for the record, I was talking about SFI not SBI.
My mistake!
(i mean the F and B look so much alike and all!)
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# Posted: 5 May 2008 20:16 · Edited by: happywife
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 No worries!
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# Posted: 5 May 2008 20:38
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???
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# Posted: 5 May 2008 20:53
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Ooops! I typed too fast. I fixed it.
"No worries" is an Australian expression that I picked up here.
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 06:05
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well, of course it is worth it, think -you pay quasi 5 Dollar for Domain the other 50% goes to the upline to each of the 5 levels, that makes the system working, and it works! i know because i am a independent affiliate there. As I am ( as a german), since a longer period of time noone has canceled by now. Seems that the most people who made bad experience with GDI has not understood the way how networkmarketing functions... Well - I have... , if have any questions, just contact me
Success in earning money with the Internet !
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14 May 2008 05:55 - Attached on merging:
What promotion tool is best for GDI
Hi guys,
I am a current GDI (Global Domains International) user and I am working desperately hard to build my business. The thing is there seems to be countless different promotional tools out there for promoting GDI.
I have run across these ones and I would love to get feedback from anyone that can assist me in learning more about the legitimacy of each. I would gladly take success stories regarding any of them also to better assist me in making a decision.
Hits2U
SpiderWeb
GDIPro
NetworkStar
GDI Team Builders
Grin
I am sure there are others but these ones stand out in my mind. Most of them say they are free. I did remember some having an optional cost associated with them. I am just looking for what works best.
Please Help!
Thanks
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# Posted: 17 May 2008 17:12
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ryam I would suggest you look into Jonathan Budd's MLM Training courses...they will help you big time and literally arm you with marketing knowledge that will allow you to succeed at pretty much what ever business you decide to join...
I purchased one of his marketing books and it's impressive to say the least...
you will only be successful if you invest in yourself, and take the time to educate yourself on HOW to market the right way...once you know how, you can create success at will...
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ryamcarthur: Hits2U Hits2U SpiderWeb GDIPro NetworkStar GDI Team Builders Grin
hits2u nice nice because it gives a pretty decent sales pitch and for the most part dose everything for you. EVEN if the person doesn't sign up for it they still end up promoting your GDI when they promote either MPM or try to get referals for more traffic. The con here is that IMHO the whole process is very very long in respect to some others and the lead is not actually offered a GDI spot until step 3 or 4. I've had only 2 sign ups with this...though i must admit I only had it as a sig link here for about 3 weeks or so.
give it a respectable 6 out of 10
Spiderweb(sws) - I love it at first, basically a suped up version of hits2U with the same concept. I do like the front end sale a bit more than hits2u. I say at first because as i've alreadyhad a GDI account and sws has since changed it's blogging update option i'm a little worried. If you're jsut starting out though they give a DAMN GOOD step by step guide on how to get started and started right. They when through a few hiccups but seam to be back on track. I would recommend it at about a level of 7(out of 10)
I've not tried the other so I wont comment. If they are not free i don't try them
THE BEST WAY TO PROMOTE GDI:
You just have to get some good old fasion marketing down.
Forum marketing
article marketing
funded marketing
reverse marketing
social marketing, etc, etc
Look to invest at least an hour a day for 6 month if not longer to see some REAL hard results. Of course if you are willing to go above and beyond the $10 and want to invest more you CAN see results faster. I try not to do any other marketing beyond the free stuff i'd i've done ok
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# Posted: 8 Jun 2008 07:59
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Hi,
Great to see the healthy discussion on GDI continuing.
GDI is a no brainer, I find it hard to understand why more people do not have a crack at it.
And of course once your downline starts to build, this opens up options for you to introduce other affiliated programs or your primary.
Aaron Riddell
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2008 10:28
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TJ MoneyMan,
Sorry for the delay to your PM.
I've been tied up with my primary business, but am changing focus for the next 90 days to devote more time to GDI.
Looking forward to keeping you updated.
Aaron Riddell
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 13:11
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I don't know, when someone says:
" We have a Guaranteed program , you will be MAKlNG:
$9,330 or more per month by the End of August ..."
I have to really question this.....
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 13:17
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zeropoint: I don't know, when someone says: " We have a Guaranteed program , you will be MAKlNG: $9,330 or more per month by the End of August ..." I have to really question this.....
I can understand that!
Now, who says this?
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 14:11
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From emails from Mr. Ash Mufareh, MIT.
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 14:15
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no question here,
that's pure d B.S.!!!
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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 05:58
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TJamMoneyMan,
Are you still plugged into this forum?
Have you made any forward movement with GDI ?
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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 06:41
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Still plugged in!
Still pluggin' in with GDI!
I guess you could say my Spider Web Marketing System has done that for me.
10 members, so my commissions now equal my monthly cost.
OK, so I'm making zero dollars a month!
I have to do much better than that for sure, so I am learning basic network marketing stuff at the moment.
But I didn't do much to get those signups other than promote the Spider Web Marketing system.
Of course, not very skilfully either, but that Spider Web System works wonders.
I get signups even from guaranteed traffic resources!
It converts well I think, because of that EZ video 'how to' setup series.
IT'S FREE TOO!
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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 07:34
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Interesting news,
Good on you!
I know there's a lot of good content within that system. And the founders have hit the mark going by your results.
Aaron Riddell
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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 13:05
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Hey TJ I'm glad you're finally making money. The thing about GDI is that like I told you 3 months ago it takes about 3-4 months of learning what to do to start to get people to sign up. Once you start though every month you'll notice more and more things happening. SWM has definitely helped me in this area as well. Right now I've stopped marketing my site while I focus on something else and still every day or so between me and my downline I get 1-2 signups. Long term is where it's at. At this rate in 2 years I will be sitting more than pretty
Now that your out of pocket cost is ZERO take this opportunity to immerse yourself in online marketing.
Best of luck on your continued success,
Gil
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# Posted: 4 Oct 2008 15:12
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5 Oct 2008 00:33 - Attached on merging:
GDI Leads that Want to Stay
I signed up with GDI a couple of days ago. It is fun, I have one affiliate in my downline. I got frustrated with Craig's List flagging my ads, so I branched out. I have recieved replies today from other sies besides craig's List. My oncern,I only have one peron in my downline, and I'm not sure she is staying. How do you get leads that work and stay? I like internet marketing. I like what I do, my other job is from home as well. I can do the two side by side. I signed up cause it interested me, email marketing.
GDI, somehow, got bad rep, so it's consequently, has no one intrested, when they see the dreaded GDI. But, gDI offers the website, maybe a little bit more money or maybe not. Sure,I want the website, I play World of wracraft, I can set up a nice website, about leveling toons, on my .ws website. If I set up a slick enough GDI website, with good graphics, I can actualy talk an interested person, quest by quest, get their toon exalted. Okay,that's the fun part of the job, bu thow do I get people in my downline, without using Craigs List?
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 07:58 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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opendomain: Now that your out of pocket cost is ZERO take this opportunity to immerse yourself in online marketing.
Hey Gil,
I checked out your HITS4PAY site, and PM'd you some questions.
BUT, I found I was unable to get all of the messages sent.
The WAHF reason stated was that my PM box was full, BUT, my PM box is down to only THREE messages!!
I don't understand this one bit:
1) I only have THREE MESSAGES, and my inbox is full?
2) I was able to send OTHER folx PM's given the same (3 messages in my inbox!) situation.
Whatever the reason, since this is a GDI issue and I only have one question, I'll just ask it right here:
Step #3 refers to setting up a TRACKING LOG.
WHERE am I supposed to set up this tracking log?
thanx & good luck,
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 08:36
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I know that many people feel that this isn't a genuine, honest business opportunity because there are just no retail customers at all, and the product isn't exactly marketable because it's identical to those offered elsewhere at much lower prices. This must surely be a problem for you?
Isn't it true that the only people buying this company's "product" are those joining for the "business opportunity", in other words to earn the right to sell it to others?
I know that there are a few (I think very few!) people who've been in it for a long time who are still making some monthly income from it, but I think almost everyone who's joined it in the last year or two has dropped out by now, after realising this? I think no other "MLM company" (it isn't one really, but that's what they call themselves!) has such a high drop-out rate? I have to say, looking at what the product is and what it costs and what you can buy it for elsewhere, that doesn't surprise me. And yet there seems to be a constant turnover of new people trying to pitch me for this - I just don't understand where they all come from and how they get talked into it, when almost nobody's really earning anything much from it ... very mysterious.
What I say each and every time someone tries to interest me in this is "Come back in 6 months if you're still promoting it and then I'll sign up." So far, of course, nobody has been, because everyone realises faster than that that they'll never cover the cost.
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 09:59 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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alexa: What I say each and every time someone tries to interest me in this is "Come back in 6 months if you're still promoting it and then I'll sign up." So far, of course, nobody has been, because everyone realises faster than that that they'll never cover the cost.
Yes Alexa, this is basically a hosting plan, with a matrix.
Of course, that makes it something other than 'identical' to other hosting plans.
You'd have to compare GDI to a Web Hosting Plan with a matrix, or some other money making opp., to be fair.
And 'retail' implies something bought 'wholesale' and of course, sold retail with a markup.
Many 'service industry' products, are legit but can't classify their customers as 'retail customers'.
Anyway, after 8 months I am still with it, and the cost is more than covered at this point.
I am learning more about this 'product' and expect my downline to continue to grow.
For whatever reason, my downline has also stuck with GDI - I have had NO quitters.
Also, a number of my downline members have bought extra hosting.
As for 'product', web hosting is definitely a product.
The matrix?
Well, I believe the information age is producing some new types of 'products' that don't necessarily fit the definition of physical 'products' that we can touch.
The service industry, which America now embodies, perhaps more so than any other nation, has certainly produced some different ideas as to what a 'product' is.
I expect the information age to redefine things as products, and ways of earning income.
It's still nebulous, but I think this is only natural.
For example:
Casinos offer little in the way of 'product', other than to simply make money (plucking those chickens!), and have 'fun'.
Gambling, is then a product?
A product that was illegal just a short time ago.
Lottery tickets offer NOTHING in the way of 'product' other than a money making opportunity.
Again, illegal not too long ago.
And the odds on actually making money with these 'products' are infinitesimal, while you have NO WAY of substantially affecting the outcome.
The 'house' wins, you lose.
It's that simple.
Of course, there are gambling 'pros', as there are internet 'gurus', who have ways of beating the 'odds'.
But at least on the internet, you really have a chance to do almost ANYTHING, to effectively increase YOUR chances of 'winning'.
The whole insurance industry too is little more than legalized gambling wouldn't you agree?
Then, so many 'professionals' charge you for their 'time'.
'Counseling' is the word, but what is the actual 'retail product'?
The 'retail customer'?
Anyway, it's not unreasonable to expect this information age, coupled with the internet, to produce some new and unusual categories and types of products, and to challenge our pre-conceived notions of just what constitutes a 'product'.
I think the service industry has been doing this for decades now.
Perhaps, 'how to make money online' is the product!
And not too long ago, there was no 'online' to make money on!
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 13:04
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I just wish GDI had more beefed up hosting packages such as MySQL databases, 1-click installs and all that sort to make it more worth the $10 per month thing. I mean yeah, you can forward it to 000webhost which is the best free package available, but I don't like their ToA.
I was in for a couple of months, but had to cancel out for now. I may take another look at this in the distant future after I help out my team.
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 16:25
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TJ I emailed you, what Can I say I try to keep the inbox as uncluttered as possible, but sometimes I get a little behind inhousekeeping
As for the log, create one. Not to hard if you have excel...or on paper for that matter, a few columns a few notes to yourself...
As for retention.
The reason a lot of people stick around is because it's only $10. $10 is a cheeseburger dinner or a soda a day, or not renting a movie, or missing 1 trip to the movie theatre in 2 months. Honestly this is what kept me around thorugh the first few months when the income wasn't there and it was costing me. The other thing I do to help retain people is build them up. I have people I've never spoken to that I know would have quit if I hadn't placed people under them. In fact my best producer on my level 4 is under a lvl 2 of mine that I'VE NEVER SPOKEN TOO. Right now she's making a pretty penny and from what I can tell she's never sponsored anyone herself, only the people I've fed through her.
Albeit the turnover is about 1 in 5 after 3 months 2 in 5 after 6 months, but for those that stick it out and even SEMI promote it after 6 months they are usually turning a profit...and because you can have it link to paypal essentially you could fall off the map and it'll self pay until your downline disappears.
Oh TJ if you need more info on the tracking log let me know I'll send you a copy of mine.
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 17:05 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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opendomain: Oh TJ if you need more info on the tracking log let me know I'll send you a copy of mine.
I thought that tracking log had some automation to it.
Apparently, it's just notes you take on your referrals?
glitch00: I mean yeah, you can forward it to 000webhost which is the best free package available, but I don't like their ToA
opendomain: The other thing I do to help retain people is build them up. I have people I've never spoken to that I know would have quit if I hadn't placed people under them. In fact my best producer on my level 4 is under a lvl 2 of mine that I'VE NEVER SPOKEN TOO.
This is something I didn't know was possible.
It sounds like a great idea...
glitch00: 000webhost which is the best free package available
Hi Glitch00!
I don't know about 000webhost, but I'd like to see how it compares to Xtreemhost.com - the TRUE 'best free package available'!
glitch00: I was in for a couple of months, but had to cancel out for now. I may take another look at this in the distant future after I help out my team
Well, if you read thru this thread, you will see that I too was about to give up on GDI, till I found The Spider Web Marketing System!
I have some members who have gotten more than one package, which is great for commissions!
GDI is really not a bad deal.
And it has propagated very well, so folx WILL sign up.
My only issue is that many of my SWMS referrals already have a GDI account, and can't signup under me as their GDI sponsor... 
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Yeah with the log it's just notes to optimize where you're posting and where you're getting flagged. Some places flag mroe than others and you can tell where to post and More of a statistics page if you will.
For placement, you can only place in your immediate downline, but like I said it's a great tool IMHO.
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opendomain: For placement, you can only place in your immediate downline, but like I said it's a great tool IMHO.
Ok, so what do you mean by this:
opendomain: I have people I've never spoken to that I know would have quit if I hadn't placed people under them.
You are able to put your referrals under anyone in your immediate downline?
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 17:26
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Correct anyone in your level 2.
Lets say I see someone that I've signed up, they've never returned a call or an email and they have become stagnant. I'll move a new signup underthem in hopes that when they do get around to checking their GDI stuff they see a new signup and will stick around. I try to cycle thorugh my downline and feed them as much as possible, sometimes it just makes more sense to help people ya know? Eitehr way I'm making $1...now would it have been nicer to have my top producer in my 3rd level vs. my forth...well sure, but in the end it was worth it to me to help that one person who is now making money...it's like they hit the lottery almost.
The great thing is that if it doesn't work and the person I placed under quits everything just rolls up one level.
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# Posted: 7 Oct 2008 18:46
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Hi TJam, I do accept the points you make above.
I'm allowing that some "products" are actually "services" instead and obviously there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not suggesting that GDI hasn't got a product, obviously. And I know that (unlike many MLM companies) it's quite a well-established company too. All I'm saying is that it hasn't got a product which retail customers will buy: the only sales possible are to people joining for a business opportunity in order to sell it to others.
I'm not saying the product is useless or valueless. I'm just saying that it's (clearly!) worth about half what the price is. Which means that nobody can actually sell it as a product.
To me, and to many people of course, the first criterion of an MLM company is "does the company have a genuine product/service, perceived to be worth the money asked, which retail customers will buy?" I don't think anyone's pretending that the answer to this can possibly be "yes" with GDI, are they?
And yes, I accept your point that we're not quite comparing like with like here - fair point. But, you know, apples and oranges, it's all fruit, isn't it?
How much profit per month are you making after 8 months in the business, TJam, and does that make it well-paid work for what you've actually done? (I'm not seriously suggesting that you should answer this in public, of course, it's only a rhetorical question to try to make the point that like 99% of GDI distributors you'd actually probably have earned more per hour working for the minimum wage in McDonalds, I suspect, if you're honest with yourself about it!!).
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alexa: How much profit per month are you making after 8 months in the business, TJam, and does that make it well-paid work for what you've actually done? (I'm not seriously suggesting that you should answer this in public, of course, it's only a rhetorical question to try to make the point that like 99% of GDI distributors you'd actually probably have earned more per hour working for the minimum wage in McDonalds, I suspect, if you're honest with yourself about it!!).
I will both agree and disagree with this.
At first, by all means yes I would have made much more money with a Wal-mart type job. Now however the returns have definately been worth the investment in time.
Not just the monetary returns either, but the journey and getting back into marketing. Not that this is exclusive to GDI, but to me marketing online / owning your own businessis something everyone should take a serious stab at at least once. It broadens your horizons and opens your eyes to a lot of different things.
I can see your point with trying to Market domain names being very difficult because like you said you can get tehm elsewhere for cheaper. What you can't get is as successful of a business model for such a low monthly cost.
With GDI you are absolutely marketing the ability to make money by marketing the ability to make money, which in a sense goes against much of what you would warn people about, speaking with a first hand perspective of being ripped off by MLM companies as well as someone who's experienced success with GDI I will say I would recommend it still, making money or not. If only because the business plan is so simple to promote and it is residual.
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