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maricel
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 08:17
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I don't think that is it overly expensive for the programme that you get, yes it is better if you can market it, you are paying for the opportunity to access the programmes in the vault (yes they do cost) and you have an auto responder taking care of anyone who expresses interest in your page. I have just purchased a set of the LCM leads and will keep you updated on the response from that. They have only just become available again.
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teydean
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 13:49
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Quick Update:
I went into my back office today and noticed LCM has lowered the Debit Card fees as well as the sponsoring requirement to receive it free. Here's the new approach...
Sponsor 0 $24.99 $15.00
Sponsor 1 $19.99 $15.00
Sponsor 2 $9.99 $15.00
Sponsor 3 FREE! FREE!
"You can order your card at any time and as you refer new members to Lawn Chair Millionaire you will be reimbursed as you qualify according to the fee schedule above."
This is FAIR in my opinion!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 15:01
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Quoting: Bigrich I am fortunate enough to know 1 fairly well so I get a heads up maybe after the Bigger fish do so That's why I am involved...I get tips from a Big fish so I listen, if some one makes a million or 2 a year I would rather take tips from them than someone who makes nothing but knows everything, if you get my drift...
That's understandable Bigrich. You KNOW people who can tell you exactly what's up with a particular program and how to work it.
Kind of like 'insider trading' though - an unfair advantage over the rest of us.
I could go on 'trust' if I had someone to trust that way.
Otherwise, the rank and file among us have to use good old fashioned business sense - investigating a proposal before we put money into it.
Trust only goes so far.
Everyone promoting LCM is talking about how you have to get in on this NOW, 'don't hesitate' and the like.
That's high pressure sales.
Just promote your business and report on the results truthfully.
If you have a good business model that will LAST - and therefore benefit
ALL who become involved, then the results will show it.
Anything you have to 'trust', 'take a gamble' and 'jump on NOW - before it's too late!!!', sounds 'fly by night'.
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maricel
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 15:23
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Hi TJ,
you sound as though you want to put this opportunity down at every opportunity, if it is not for you fine, just ignore it, nobody is putting nay pressure on anybody. I have read many threads on this forum and I do not remember seeing any that have gone in to so much detail about the working, compensation and opportunity of a programme as this one.
All the facts are in this thread, no one is hiding anything, the only issue that I and others has with it was the cost of the debit card, as you can see above this has been raised by many people on support tickets and it has been changed for the benefit of the members, compare that sort of customer service to the rubbish that you and I received with that awful 2020 programme.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 15:55
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Quoting: maricel Hi TJ, you sound as though you want to put this opportunity down at every opportunity,
It may seem that way Maricel but actually I have been considering LCM very seriously. I was pretty much through my opposition and trying to figure out how to come up with the $80 when the cost of this 'vault' and promoting THOSE programs became an issue.
That's where I was on this, believe it or not.
One of the main issues for me is money - how much I will REALLY have to allot for spending.
The vault issue is what I am concerned about, especially if that is where the 'real' money is to be made.
If I could actually pay into this system and get the 'thousands' of dollars they mention - for just 4 hours work ONCE a month, I would be on this in a heartbeat (well the hearbeat that follows me having an extra $80 to drop!).
So far though, it seems like recruiting is essential - which directly contradicts what the website says.
No one promoting LCM has denied that.
This program sounded affordable, THAT is why I have spent so much time in this thread examining LCM.
I have no desire to waste my time, yours, or anyone else's.
If I feel good about this program, ESPECIALLY in reference to the costs involved, I'll get on board.
For now, I am asking questions, and reviewing the answers to my questions and the questions of others.
If the program is as good as folx say, it'll stand up to honest and sincere inquiry, and the best test of all - TIME!
Good luck Maricel, I have liked your answers so far.
Let us ALL know how successful you become promoting LCM - but I think I don't have to tell you THAT!!
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maricel
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 07:15
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No Probs TJ,
Ask away, all your questions are ones that other people would ask and wish to know the answers too. Once you are happy with the opportunity let me know and we can sort something out.
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M
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lindamiller
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 12:12
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Hey everyone,
I just found your forum today. It's great to meet everyone and read through your messages on LCM. I joined on the first day and have so far sponsored 68 people without much effort, so I'm pretty happy.
I ordered my debit card last weekend and now in my back office I can see my debit card number so when it arrives (this week) I will activate it. Yay!
Someone asked WHY a debit card instead of Paypal. I can't be sure; however my guess is that because this is an internatational opportunity they need a way to pay internationally - and the Virtual Money debit card is international. Make sense?
Did those of you who did join see that you can now add YOUR OWN PROGRAMS in The Vault? I think that is a very good additional benefit so that your referrals will be introduced to your other businesses as well. I have already had some results from that feature as well.
Wishing everyone the greatest holiday season... and looking forward to a new year in 2008.
Many blessing.
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lindamiller
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 14:16
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Hi there,
Thanks for that update. I ordered my debit card last weekend after I had sponsored 15 people so it was free.
It is really good to know LCM is making adjustments that are better for everyone. Yay!
Did you see that you can add your own programs in The Vault now?
I really like that too... another great marketing tool.
Wishing you much success!
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 17:45
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Sorry to jump in here 
I am a member over at wahm forum as well and LCM has come under strong fire there and elsewhere.
A regular over at the forum joined LCM a few days ago ,paid her fee and has received nothing.This is despite numerous emails to customer support/admin.
Another poster who is a member has reported that some are getting the password etc sent through to them,others not.
Not in their junk folder either.
And again after emailing the company they hear nothing.
Coupled with the fact the thread that was running about it until a few days ago was very negative and LCM members could not answer questions about the programm,more sidestepped them put me off.
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timwelch
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 18:44
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Folks this program called the lawn chair millionaire is going to do whatever you think it's going to do for you. If you think it's a scam, then guess what, it is. If you think it's great than it is.
Personally I already made more than I invested to get started in just few days, but I succeed at every program I do, so it comes as no surprise.
You can make excuses or you can make money, you can't do both!
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lindamiller
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 22:51 � Edited by: lindamiller
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Bravo Tim. That is exactly right. We really do get what we expect... and like you I expect to succeed.
Anyone can choose to do that. It really is a choice.
Many blessings.
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jahman
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2007 23:50
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This system may work but still limited in terms of the income can make doing your own little business.
People need to focus on specific goals then have real business plan to succeed online. It seem most people just jump from one idea to another without any real plan upfront.
Its best to sit down and map out your needs and how to fulfill such needs with your home business. There is a lot of money to make online. One good product could make much more than this Lawn Chair program with lots of sign ups.
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maricel
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2007 01:39
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Quoting: jahman People need to focus on specific goals then have real business plan to succeed online. It seem most people just jump from one idea to another without any real plan upfront.
Quite right,
But that does not mean that all other opportunities should be ignored, I personally have had no problems with LCM and whist not in Linda's league (easy sign ups?, please tell me how, lol) I have introduced some contacts from other programmes and they all seem happy with what they have got, there are no surprises in the LCM, all the details of the programme are contained in this thread.
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maricel
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2007 01:41
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Quoting: lindamiller I joined on the first day and have so far sponsored 68 people without much effort, so I'm pretty happy.
Hi Linda,
Did you use the Pro mailer?
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2007 06:37
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So if I direct wahm members to this thread who have been interested in LCM and couldn't get answers there,they can come here and make a balanced judgement?
The posts there were very negative and I think a more balanced view would help people make a choice instaed of relying on just speculation and hearsay.
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maricel
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2007 08:12
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Quoting: cybermommy So if I direct wahm members to this thread who have been interested in LCM and couldn't get answers there,they can come here and make a balanced judgement? The posts there were very negative and I think a more balanced view would help people make a choice instaed of relying on just speculation and hearsay.
Hi CM,
You can see the information within this thread, I have not seen the other thread on the other forum, but from what I see in this thread no one is pushing it down anyone's throat and the quality of information is accurate and complete, I'm sure the owners of this forum would be most pleased to accept new members, if the people putting out negative vibes have genuine questions then I'm sure everyone on here will do their best to guide and assist, we are a pretty friendly bunch.
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leon
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# Posted: 29 Dec 2007 16:19
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I paid monies into LawnChairMillionaire and got some money the first day and that was all.
I did not want to pay for the credit card and so i decided to get out of it
I personally think that it is a scam because it does not do what it says it will do in its web page
Leon [email protected]
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just a Bill
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2008 18:40
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Wow!!!!! I went through this hole page hoping for some straight info about the L.M. so I could make an informed decision about signing up.Judging by what all the members said,I have reached my gole.I did'nt get much more info here than I got on the site,but it was enough to go ahead and (NOT) sign up.It sounds like a typical site that offers you the chance to make the developers of the site very rich while you peck away at ad sites( for them) to get even more people to peck away and so on.You can call me a tire kicker if you want but all I want to do is find a legit site that is honest about your income potential and what you have to do to reach it.I have yet to find such a site and this one (L.C.M.)does'nt seem to be very honest or lucrative,just the same ole same ole.Lets all the honest people get together and come up with a straight forward honest site that truely represents its self and its content with a commen gole of each of its members prospering without the objective of ripping people off and scamming hard working honest people out of there dang rent money!Well thats all I have to say about that.Thank you,Just a [email protected]
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FreeCashMan
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# Posted: 5 Jan 2008 02:34
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People continue to try and persue programs that say you don't have to recruit anyone. That should be your biggest red flag right there. LCM will fall away as the residual money falters as people do not get the cash they were expecting.
A program is only as good as what it can do for those that follow behind you and the masses. LCM, imo, can't deliver results for the masses that will follow the hype to join to make money without recruiting. I always find it funny when a program says no recruiting is necessary but some many are recruiting.
Stop joining programs that don't make you any money...one person put it best LCM website and auto responder messages are long on hype and short on the details before you put your hard earn cash into THEIR Vault!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 5 Jan 2008 15:33
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Quoting: leon I personally think that it is a scam because it does not do what it says it will do in its web page Leon [email protected]
A simple but accurate definition of a scam imho.
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lindamiller
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# Posted: 5 Jan 2008 23:38 � Edited by: lindamiller
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Hi Maricel,
I'm sorry I am just now seeing your question. No, I have not yet used the ProMailer, although some of my team members are using it.
Most of my members have found me through Google because my blogging system [Link removed - Admin] gets indexed so quickly when I post a message.
I haven't bought anything on the inside of LCM. I did sign up as a free affiliate for one of the programs and have already received a commissions from that (surprise!).
I did receive my debit card and I have activated it. Payment of commissions is being made January 10. I have now sponsored 79 members so I have a great commission coming! Yay!
This has really surprised me and now I understand there is going to be another program added to the member area that will be no cost and can also generate more income.
I am a multiple income stream kind of girl and I have enjoyed adding this to my income.
Hope this helps!
Many blessings.
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 6 Jan 2008 11:41
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I haven't sponsered many at all they were mainly signees that joined under me because they are in my other programs.
Surprisingly I did use a Program in the vault and have made better than 3k last month and it just keeps going,, it has nothing to do with selling, and is actually smooth move'in...
The reason you don't have to recruit is that people joing and staying in the program add revenue which is shared... If you do that and then do not take advantage of the Vault then you will make very little, if you recruit and do not use the vault you will make more, if you use all of the resources you can make alot.
A new feature to the program is that you can add Your Own program to the Vault and make more money. I see where they are adding more resources to it and seem to be trying to make it easier for people to make easy money..
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# Posted: 6 Jan 2008 18:21 � Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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I don't know why all the secrecy surrounding this 'vault'.
It's all over the web what these programs are.
From what I gather, it cost nearly $200 to get with any of these 'vault' programs, and they require a MINIMUM of hundreds of dollars to invest after that.
Since LCM is keeping this such a secret (so they think), one can only speculate and use common sense - and internet search engines like GOOGLE. Nothing is free after all!
And since LCM is not forthcoming with the facts,
Lord only knows how much money one would have to invest to make 'better than $3K' in ANY one month period.
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# Posted: 6 Jan 2008 19:56
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BS cost me 150.00 to get in and 75.00 to invest ,, if you don't want to participate get another program to harp on...
and quit yapping about what you know nothing about...
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 6 Jan 2008 22:19
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Don't be such an a-hole!
You posted your thousands of dollars of earnings, but not what you had to do to get it.
You are trying to sell your program on the forum this way.
Don't cry like a baby because someone challenges you!
Show PROOF if you are going to make claims!
I got MY statements from those in LCM who weren't afraid to speak the truth, IN DETAIL!
I am tired of programs making false claims.
Or not being willing to reveal the whole truth, all in an effort to get people's money.
I have a right to speak on that.
That's what this forum is all about.
That's what free speech is all about.
If you are making sooo much money, why are you wasting time trying to convince others?
If this program is so great, how come EVERYONE doesn't think so?
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# Posted: 7 Jan 2008 10:45 � Edited by: Bigrich
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I joined the money exchange system in the vault, and just keep swapping bucks for those that need it, that's all. No real work there, just swap away.
There is a futures program, and a smart cash system based on sports picks, That's it...
instead of listening to everyone why don't you check it out yourself, there is a free trial period. Tons of people do that and then you can see what all is there.
Like I said I don't recruit, and I maybe check in once a week I do get notices that a transaction was made.
You are basing all your accusations on rumor and enuendo, I don't run down your programs from what I hear from others so stand up and research before you post negative trash talk.
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2008 08:27
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Talk about negative trash talk!
You got the market cornered in this thread B.R.
If I have to "hear from others" what this program is all about, it's because the LCM site, and promoters like you are simply not forthcoming.
The LCM "free trial period" you are referring to costs $50!
If indeed "tons of people do" such a thing, that is certainly a boon for LCM!!
If you want to make a public claim that you made $3,000 IN ONE MONTH, from an investment of $150 (which, as I said, IS close to $200) and an additional $75. Without any further investment or expense, I have a right to challenge you on that.
If it's true, then you can easily show incontrovertible proof, which would only help PROVE the worthiness of LCM.
Instead, I am supposed to pay $50 for a "free trial", like 'tons of people do'.
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2008 13:57
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I have a dilemma in regards to the Lawn Chair Millionaire. I joined the program on 1/11/08. Once I got inside and saw that everything else inside cost more money, plus you had to purchase a debit card to get paid (another $40), I cancelled my account.
I tried to send an email to support to make sure I would received a refund of the $29.99 since I cancelled within 30 days as they state in their terms and all you get from that email address is an automated system response that directs you to submit a support ticket or to read the FAQ they list. Since I no longer have an account, I obviously can't log in to submit a support ticket.
Well, I should have took my loss at that point and wrote it off as experience, but I reactivated my account the next day or so to be able to send a support ticket and when I did that they charged me another monthly charge of $29.99. When I try to log in now I just get a blank page--so I clicked on the link to have my password sent to me to make sure I was using the correct one. I did get an email with my login information and it ends with "if you have any questions, to email support at their email address".
Well, I still get a blank page when I try to log in and I have tried sending about 3 emails to the support email address and all I get is that automated response.
I have NO way to get ahold of these people and now they are going to be billing me every month and I can't even get into the site. I did notice a mailing address in their privacy page so I guess I will try mailing them a letter--I don't know what else to do since they have no way of contacting them.
I don't think I have ever had such a bad experience with an online business. I am very sorry that I ever signed up for this to begin with!
Sorry, I'm not normally a negative person at all, but to me this is not a good sign when they have no way to get ahold of them and noone responds to their support emails.
If anyone has any suggestions that would help me, please let me know.
Thanks,
Deb
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2008 00:42
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Deb,
You can try their email at [email protected] (I don't know if this is the same email you were using). You can also try calling them during normal business hours at 1-250-339-7364. Too bad you re-signed up again - that was probably a mistake. However, if you have problems with them not refunding your money, make a complaint to your credit card company if you don't see the credit on your next bill.
BTW, I know some people who canceled during the thirty day trial and they did get their $29.99 back. So you were probably okay - but I like to be proactive like you too.
Good luck,
Cindy
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2008 09:01
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Thank you Cindy for your response--that helps a lot. They don't give a phone number anywhere! I'm not sure how you got their phone #. That email address is not answered by anyone--you just get an automated reply but noone actually checks it or answers it.
I will try calling them (hopefully they answer the phone).
Thanks again,
Deb
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